From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jul 5 14:45:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA08092; Mon, 5 Jul 99 14:45:54 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JD7JCFQV6G934V8Q@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:45:16 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id FAA15846; Mon, 05 Jul 1999 05:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13005; Mon, 05 Jul 1999 05:41:26 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA10112; Mon, 05 Jul 1999 05:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA10096; Mon, 05 Jul 1999 05:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18675; Mon, 05 Jul 1999 05:40:44 -0700 Received: from eshu.request.net (eshu.request.net [207.48.132.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id FAA31264 for ; Mon, 05 Jul 1999 05:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from furina.request.net ([207.48.132.3]) by eshu.request.net with ESMTP id <4403-15409>; Mon, 05 Jul 1999 08:39:05 -0400 Received: from Bad.EHLO.Input ([193.159.63.32]) by furina.request.net with ESMTP id <98610769-278>; Mon, 05 Jul 1999 08:38:59 -0400 Received: by HW_MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3KKKHLKA>; Mon, 05 Jul 1999 14:40:24 +0100 Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 14:40:24 +0100 From: "JOR. - Jordan, Roman" Subject: kernel image 2.2.9 (binary) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-Id: <81413F587EB9D1118F56000092941A3EA78A5B@HW_MAIL> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hi there, does anyone have a working 2.2.9 linux kernel (in form of an builded zImage) for the brutus board ? The best it would be, if this kernel image is a result of the default values (configuration) of the 'make config' process. Thanks in advance Roman Jordan From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jul 6 10:50:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA11791; Tue, 6 Jul 99 10:50:51 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JD8PF71IWQ934W6R@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:50:05 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA01520; Tue, 06 Jul 1999 01:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28123; Tue, 06 Jul 1999 01:44:30 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA13004; Tue, 06 Jul 1999 01:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA12942; Tue, 06 Jul 1999 01:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30656; Tue, 06 Jul 1999 01:42:38 -0700 Received: from eshu.request.net (eshu.request.net [207.48.132.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id BAA13234 for ; Tue, 06 Jul 1999 01:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from furina.request.net ([207.48.132.3]) by eshu.request.net with ESMTP id <661-6029>; Tue, 06 Jul 1999 04:39:24 -0400 Received: from Bad.EHLO.Input ([193.159.140.244]) by furina.request.net with ESMTP id <98610628-13703> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Tue, 06 Jul 1999 04:39:02 -0400 Received: by HW_MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3KKKHLQ0>; Tue, 06 Jul 1999 10:40:22 +0100 Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 10:40:22 +0100 From: "JOR. - Jordan, Roman" Subject: WG: kernel image 2.2.9 (binary) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-Id: <81413F587EB9D1118F56000092941A3EA78A5F@HW_MAIL> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail1.digital.com id BAA13234 Hello, here i am again. Is there really nobody who has a working kernel image 2.= 2.9 for brutus. I need it for checking the boot problem (invalid compressed format) of my kernel. Thanks, Roman Jordan > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: JOR. - Jordan, Roman=20 > Gesendet am: Monday, July 05, 1999 3:40 PM > An: 'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com' > Betreff: kernel image 2.2.9 (binary) >=20 > Hi there, > does anyone have a working 2.2.9 linux kernel (in form of an builded > zImage) for the brutus board ? The best it would be, if this kernel ima= ge > is a result of the default values (configuration) of the 'make config' > process. >=20 > Thanks in advance > Roman Jordan >=20 From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jul 7 15:56:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA19221; Wed, 7 Jul 99 15:56:05 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDAE7WAW86934WL2@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:55:07 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id GAA27385; Wed, 07 Jul 1999 06:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31376; Wed, 07 Jul 1999 06:46:37 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA17369; Wed, 07 Jul 1999 06:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA17322; Wed, 07 Jul 1999 06:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21468; Wed, 07 Jul 1999 06:40:57 -0700 Received: from eshu.request.net (eshu.request.net [207.48.132.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id GAA02577 for ; Wed, 07 Jul 1999 06:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from furina.request.net ([207.48.132.3]) by eshu.request.net with ESMTP id <1165-14611>; Wed, 07 Jul 1999 09:39:34 -0400 Received: from Bad.EHLO.Input ([193.159.62.68]) by furina.request.net with ESMTP id <98610654-26439> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Wed, 07 Jul 1999 09:39:24 -0400 Received: by HW_MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3KKKHL01>; Wed, 07 Jul 1999 15:40:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 15:40:27 +0100 From: "JOR. - Jordan, Roman" Subject: WG: AW: SA1100 Linux & Itsy Source Code Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'nico@CAM.ORG'" Cc: "'Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-Id: <81413F587EB9D1118F56000092941A3EA78A63@HW_MAIL> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail1.digital.com id GAA02577 Hello, i want to get you some information about my problem with the ramdisk. I inserted a small piece of software to the kernel code, which gives me a checksum over the ramdisk area. I compared the result (only addition of shorts) with the result of a pc-linux based program. The values are the same. Therefore i exclude that the problem is during the download process. I compiled a new binutils and egcs for arm. But without a positive result= . I also compiled the whole glibc without any error. I do not think that the ramdisk is faulty, because i can mount it on my p= c. But at this point i have a question. I have two links in my arm-linux/include tree (asm->/usr/src/linux/include/asm/asm-arm and linux->/usr/src/linux/include/linux), which pointed to the kernel sources= , i included to build the compiler. If i want to build a new kernel have i to change this link into the kernel sources? And a second question. Whats the number of the earlier version (before 2.2.9) of a running kernel for brutus. Which supports a wide range of the periphery of brutus? Thats all for the moment. Have a nice day Roman Jordan > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: JOR. - Jordan, Roman=20 > Gesendet am: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 6:45 PM > An: 'Nicolas Pitre' > Betreff: AW: AW: SA1100 Linux & Itsy Source Code >=20 > Hello, > i reversed the patch. But the result is the same. >=20 > I build in several output routines to get the position of the error. > The point where it occurs, is located in 'inflate.c' (i mean the unpatc= hed > version of inflate.c). In function 'inflate'. There is a call to > 'inflate_block'. The result is checked with '0'. This loop is running 2= 0 > times. Then i get the result 1. The ptr which is applied to 'gzip_mark' > has a value of 0xc00b210c at this moment. > In the function 'inflate_block' the flow branchs to inflate_dynamic. >=20 > That's all for the moment. I will try to get a checksum of the ramdisk > after download. Perhaps there is an error. >=20 > BTW: Where can i get the whole memory map of linux on brutus. >=20 > Thanks > Roman >=20 > ---------- > Von: Nicolas Pitre[SMTP:nico@CAM.ORG] > Gesendet: Montag, 28. Juni 1999 22:24 > An: JOR. - Jordan, Roman > Betreff: Re: AW: SA1100 Linux & Itsy Source Code >=20 > Try to reverse the patch applied to linux/lib/inflate.c (just picking u= p > the original from the tarfile should do) and tell me if it works better. >=20 >=20 > On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, JOR. - Jordan, Roman wrote: >=20 > > Hello, > > last week i wrote a mail about linux 2.2.9 and the egcs 1.1.2. But th= ere > are > > only a small response. Therefore i try it again. > > I applied the necessary patches. The compile process terminated witho= ut > any > > errors. i downloaded the resulting kernel to brutus board. Also the > > 'ramdisk' at 'ftp://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/pub/ramdisk.gz'. This > ramdisk > > worked fine with my older arm - linux 2.0.35 (it was the arm-linuxaou= t > > format). But after the new kernel starts i get the following error: > >=20 > > * RAMDISK: Compressed image foundat block 0 > > * invalid compressed format (err=3D1) VFS: mounted root (ext2 filesys= tem) > >=20 > > I get the same error with my older ramdisk. > > Any idea's? > >=20 > > Thanks > > Roman Jordan > >=20 > >=20 > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Postmaster=20 > > Gesendet am: Friday, June 25, 1999 7:18 PM > > An: JOR. - Jordan, Roman > > Betreff: WG: SA1100 Linux & Itsy Source Code > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > > ---------- > > > Von: Nicolas Pitre[SMTP:NICO@CAM.ORG] > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 25. Juni 1999 16:53:34 > > > An: Vasant Ramasubramanian > > > Cc: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > > > Betreff: Re: SA1100 Linux & Itsy Source Code > > > Diese Nachricht wurde automatisch von einer Regel weitergeleitet. > > >=20 > > >=20 > > On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Vasant Ramasubramanian wrote: > >=20 > > > Hello! > > >=20 > > > I am new to the StrongARM platform, and I am current trying to deve= lop > > > hardware around the SA1100. The device is best defined as an embedd= ed > > > system; there will be RAM & FlashROM, an LCD, a keyboard interface, > RS-232 > > > and SPI/I2C interface ports. I think this hardware is pretty minima= l, > > > there won't be any need for network, SCSI, PCMCIA or sound support.= =20 > > >=20 > > > Out of curiosity, what recommendations do you folks have for keyboa= rd > > > support/key scanning? The keypad won't be a standard PC-101 key, pr= ob > > > something like 49 keys or 64 keys...Any suggestions on existing > products > > > that scan and debounce keys? > >=20 > > You could use a 8 X 8 matrix using the SA1100's GPIOs if you don't n= eed > > them for other purposes. Then scaning and debouncing is made by > > software when an interrupt occurs on the matrix. > >=20 > > > I plan on running a very vanilla version of Linux, but I am quite > confused > > > as to the distributions and which version/port to use.=20 > >=20 > > Linux is already ported for the SA1100 and few implementation are > actually > > maintained. I maintain a patch against Russell King's tree for those > > implementations. You can find it at ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico o= r > > look at > > http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/applnots/sa1100lx/getstart.h= tm > > for more info. > >=20 > > > I checked out Russell King's ARM site; he barely mentions the SA-11= 0. > > >=20 > > > Would the Itsy port be the best to use or would it be better to get > > > Russell King's version and try porting it on my own?=20 > >=20 > > The Itsy distribution is quite old. I suggest you pick up RK's kerne= l + > > my SA1100 patch as your best starting point. All you have to do is t= o > add > > your implementation specifics. > >=20 > > > I downloaded the Itsy source code, but when I look at the .TAR file= , > there > > > are several directories; is the SA-1100 version in the "ARM" > directory? > > > Which directory did DEC/Compaq use for Itsy? > >=20 > > SA1100 stuff consists of drivers which may reside in drivers/char or > > arch/arm/special. System parameters are in include/asm-arm/arch-sa11= 00, > > etc. In fact, things are spread between arch/arm, include/asm-arm an= d > > drivers. Grepping -i "sa1100" through all the source (or looking at = the > > patch file) will point all SA1100 pieces. > >=20 > > > Also, would I use RAMDISK if I wanted the RAM in this device to app= ear > as > > > the Mass Storage System? How much space does partitioning take, I w= ant > to > > > keep as much of the RAM as possible, I'm thinking of using 4MegaByt= es. > > > Also, would 4MegaBytes FlashROM be adequate for Linux and custom > software, > > > assuming my software isn't BloatWare(TM Micro$oft)? > >=20 > > You could use a block device driver that consider your flash as a dri= ve > > from which your applications are run. And if they are small or > limitted, > > 4MB ram should be enough. > >=20 > > > I've never taken on a task quite this large, especially porting Lin= ux > to > > > new hardware. Any WWW sites you can recommend or documents you > suggest, I > > > would greatly appreciate. > >=20 > > Be happy! Most of the job is already done. > >=20 > > > P.S. > > >=20 > > > How come there is no mention of the SA1500 anywhere? > >=20 > > Maybe because it isn't available yet? > >=20 > >=20 > > Nicolas Pitre, B. ing. > > nico@cam.org > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > Nicolas Pitre, B. ing. > nico@cam.org >=20 >=20 From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Jul 10 04:28:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA01556; Sat, 10 Jul 99 04:28:16 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDDX7FCSPG95MQW6@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:26:53 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id TAA30735; Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32117; Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:20:45 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA26342; Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA25129; Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19717; Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:19:08 -0700 Received: from Hydro.CAM.ORG (Hydro.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.7]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id TAA31168 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ocean.CAM.ORG (Ocean.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.5]) by Hydro.CAM.ORG (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA12268; Fri, 09 Jul 1999 22:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 22:18:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: WG: AW: SA1100 Linux & Itsy Source Code In-Reply-To: <81413F587EB9D1118F56000092941A3EA78A63@HW_MAIL> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "JOR. - Jordan, Roman" Cc: "'Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, JOR. - Jordan, Roman wrote: > And a second question. Whats the number of the earlier version (before > 2.2.9) of a running kernel for brutus. Which supports a wide range of the > periphery of brutus? You could try diff-2.2.3-rmk2-np5.gz which was quite stable if I remember right. If it works, then the best thing to do would be to find which patch started breaking by trying them downwards from 2.2.10. Nicolas Pitre, B. ing. nico@cam.org From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jul 14 13:08:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA17901; Wed, 14 Jul 99 13:08:05 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDK0KZYMOY95MVQ7@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:08:03 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id EAA16243; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24672; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:04:18 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA01537; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA01533; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29751; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:03:55 -0700 Received: from queen.cwc.nus.edu.sg (queen.cwc.nus.edu.sg [137.132.163.140]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id EAA16061 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from konggf.nus.edu.sg ([137.132.163.221]) by queen.cwc.nus.edu.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA22290; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:43:18 +0730 (SST) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 01:26:20 +0900 From: Kong Gang Feng Subject: aware of glibc Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: cwckgf@leonis.nus.edu.sg To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Cc: cwckgf@leonis.nus.edu.sg Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990712012618.00bd0118@leonis.nus.edu.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk Hi: I installed a glibc in a seperate location, however, I don't know how to make my egcs to be aware of its existance. Currently, I use 'arm-linux-gcc -print-search-dirs' to list all 'install, programs,libraries' path, I can not see my glibc path there. I guess maybe I need to udpate egcs 'specs', but how to do it? Can I maintain 2 'specs' files for my egcs and switch between them? Thanks Kong G.F. From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jul 14 12:42:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA17819; Wed, 14 Jul 99 12:42:41 +0200 Received: from mail13.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDJZOJ1KQI95MVQ7@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:42:39 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail13.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id GAA27474; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 06:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27593; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 03:36:56 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA01524; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 03:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA01520; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 03:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20100; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 03:35:04 -0700 Received: from web601.yahoomail.com (web1201.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.137]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id DAA06142 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 03:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [199.105.88.100] by web1201.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 03:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 03:30:30 -0700 (PDT) From: ss ss Subject: I want to add in this mail list Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <19990714103030.16380.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk I want to add in Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com. 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jul 14 13:25:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA17964; Wed, 14 Jul 99 13:25:53 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDK16YW58Q95MVQ7@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:25:48 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id EAA17343; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29921; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:22:02 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA01566; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA01562; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10329; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:21:37 -0700 Received: from globe.nexus.co.uk (nexusel.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.195]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id EAA09100 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 114N0s-0001pw-00; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:15:46 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 114N0r-0003ki-00; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:15:45 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:15:45 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: aware of glibc In-Reply-To: "Your message of Mon, 12 Jul 1999 01:26:20 +0900." <3.0.32.19990712012618.00bd0118@leonis.nus.edu.sg> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Kong Gang Feng Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk >I installed a glibc in a seperate location, however, I don't know >how to make my egcs to be aware of its existance. Currently, >I use 'arm-linux-gcc -print-search-dirs' to list all 'install, >programs,libraries' path, I can not see my glibc path there. Depends how often you expect to use it. For casual use you could use appropriate -I, -L and -Wl,--dynamic-linker options. >I guess maybe I need to udpate egcs 'specs', but how to do it? >Can I maintain 2 'specs' files for my egcs and switch between >them? It would probably be better to install a second copy of the compiler configured to use this new library. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Jul 18 17:24:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA06798; Sun, 18 Jul 99 17:24:20 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDPUP2OX2U95N43G@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:24:17 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id IAA02264; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31543; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:21:42 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA03486; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 07:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA03479; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 07:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29972; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 07:19:23 -0700 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA19101 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 07:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: From mozart With LocalMail ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:18:56 +1000 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:18:56 +1000 (EST) From: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Subject: aborts and the PID Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@mozart.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk When a data abort is raised somewhere in the first 32MB and the PID register contains a non-zero value what is contained in the FAR is it the original address or the relocated address (original OR'd with the PID register)? I'm assuming its just the original address. Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 22 07:01:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA20455; Thu, 22 Jul 99 07:01:33 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDUU4BE5Q295N7OY@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:01:32 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id VAA16387; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05540; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:50:01 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA13214; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA13232; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [16.110.248.203] by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12556; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:47:49 -0700 Received: by exchou-gh03bk.im.hou.compaq.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) id ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:47:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:47:47 -0500 From: "Singer, James" Subject: trouble with tar files Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-Id: <427351B4DEABD111A99400805F19E9BB02DE0DC7@exchou-prod0901.eng.hou.compaq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk I have a dumb question. I tried to tar the itsy source and the linux distribution under linux 5.1, SunOS, and Solaris with all kinds of error messages. Under Solaris I get tar: directory checksum error. Under linux I get tar: Hmm this doesn't look like a tar file and various other messages before it bails out. I used IE 5.0 to download the tar files. I then ftp'ed the tar files to my various unix environments with no luck. I tried every tar variation that I thought should work with the same results. Any ideas? James singer From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jul 23 18:27:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA01199; Fri, 23 Jul 99 18:27:46 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDWWD5TF3Q95NA8A@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:27:44 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id JAA08616; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09650; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:24:45 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA18682; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA18680; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09400; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:23:06 -0700 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id JAA08783 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: From haydn With LocalMail ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:21:24 +1000 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:21:21 +1000 (EST) From: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Subject: Digital's SHARK Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@haydn.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Anyone heard of a Digital DNARD (digital network appliance reference design) known as the SHARK. I'm trying to get specs on it. Apparently NetBSD runs on it. Cheers Adam P.S. I got no reply about the PID registers effect on the FAR, is it just no one knows or what? From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jul 23 19:39:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA01363; Fri, 23 Jul 99 19:39:30 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDWYVE4L4I9356EN@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:39:28 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id KAA19843; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06409; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:37:02 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA18837; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA18820; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03771; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:36:17 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id KAA21407 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA02302; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:36:08 +0200 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:35:13 +0200 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: Digital's SHARK Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk At 18:21 +0200 23-07-1999, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > Anyone heard of a Digital DNARD (digital network appliance >reference design) known as the SHARK. I'm trying to get specs on it. >Apparently NetBSD runs on it. http://www.research.digital.com/SRC/iag/ http://www.duh.org/shark/faq/ The internal design of the NetWinder is quite like that of the DNARD. JDB. [Altavista is your friend] -- Jan-Derk Bakker, bakker@mmc.et.tudelft.nl The lazy man's proverb: 'There's no business like slow business !' From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jul 23 19:39:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA01367; Fri, 23 Jul 99 19:39:50 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDWYVRCX3895ND4T@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:39:47 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id KAA25922; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01856; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:37:29 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA18838; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA18846; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11453; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:37:21 -0700 Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id KAA21699 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 117jFJ-000L35-0B; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:36:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 117jFD-0000hC-00; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:36:27 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:36:27 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: Digital's SHARK In-Reply-To: Message from Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins "of Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:21:21 +1000." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk > Anyone heard of a Digital DNARD (digital network appliance >reference design) known as the SHARK. I'm trying to get specs on it. >Apparently NetBSD runs on it. Yeah, that's right. Someone is working on a Linux port too but I don't remember his name off the top of my head. If you look at the archives for the linux-arm or debian-arm lists you should be able to find him though. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jul 23 21:14:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA01591; Fri, 23 Jul 99 21:14:25 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDX2724VZA95ND1Q@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:14:22 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id MAA07353; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26875; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:11:58 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA19035; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA19016; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26276; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:11:14 -0700 Received: from it.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id MAA06721 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dutein71 (dutein71.et.tudelft.nl) by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA01583; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:09:22 +0200 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:09:22 +0200 From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: trouble with tar files In-Reply-To: <427351B4DEABD111A99400805F19E9BB02DE0DC7@exchou-prod0901.eng.hou.compaq.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: James.Singer@COMPAQ.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <9907231909.AA01583@it.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 0.99.6 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:47:47 -0500, Singer, James wrote: > I have a dumb question. I tried to tar the itsy source and the linux > distribution under linux 5.1, SunOS, and Solaris with all kinds of error > messages. Under Solaris I get tar: directory checksum error. Under linux I > get tar: Hmm this doesn't look like a tar file and various other messages > before it bails out. I used IE 5.0 to download the tar files. I then > ftp'ed the tar files to my various unix environments with no luck. I tried > every tar variation that I thought should work with the same results. Any > ideas? Silly question: did you use *binary* download with FTP? Another option is that the tar file was compressed with gzip. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jul 23 21:44:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA01668; Fri, 23 Jul 99 21:44:28 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDX38C8DC495ND1Q@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:44:26 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id MAA12079; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12894; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:40:37 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA19120; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA19112; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06884; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:40:18 -0700 Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (ns0.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id MAA12281 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from infoserv.utdallas.edu (infoserv.utdallas.edu [129.110.16.2]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052091A001F for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:36:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (vasantr@localhost) by infoserv.utdallas.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA03538 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:36:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:36:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Vasant Ramasubramanian Subject: Re: Digital's SHARK In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-Warning: infoserv.utdallas.edu: vasantr owned process doing -bs I was looking at the hardware for the DNARD (I wasn't aware of this deivce till this thread), and I didn't think the the SA-110 supported SDRAM; is the PAL used to generate timings for the SDRAM and an interface SDRAM <--> PAL <--> SA110? I am using an SA1100 in a project and cheap SDRAM would be a much beter alternative to expensive and soon to be out of date Self-Refresh EDO. Thanks! From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Jul 24 00:43:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA01989; Sat, 24 Jul 99 00:43:22 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDX9H5KOR693578Q@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 00:43:20 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA02198; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09501; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:39:44 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA19609; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA19615; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06653; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:38:45 -0700 Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id PAA08263 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 117nx0-000IMt-0C; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 22:37:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 117nwm-0000zS-00; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 23:37:44 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 23:37:44 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: Digital's SHARK In-Reply-To: Message from Vasant Ramasubramanian "of Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:36:51 CDT." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Vasant Ramasubramanian Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk >I was looking at the hardware for the DNARD (I wasn't aware of this deivce >till this thread), and I didn't think the the SA-110 supported SDRAM; is >the PAL used to generate timings for the SDRAM and an interface SDRAM <--> >PAL <--> SA110? The 110 doesn't have a glueless DRAM interface of any sort; you always have to add an external memory controller. Its companion chip, 21285, does include SDRAM control logic. >I am using an SA1100 in a project and cheap SDRAM would be a much beter >alternative to expensive and soon to be out of date Self-Refresh EDO. The SA-1100 doesn't support SDRAM, though I believe the SA-1110 does. If you are designing a new product then the latter might be a better bet. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Jul 24 02:43:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA02201; Sat, 24 Jul 99 02:43:20 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDXDNVBU8G93578Q@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:43:16 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id RAA13534; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11656; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:39:17 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA19737; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA19727; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19411; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:38:39 -0700 Received: from www.be-net.cz ([194.228.13.40]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id RAA24731 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by www.be-net.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA15207 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:38:36 +0200 Received: from fw.sitzn.cz(194.228.13.61) by www.be-net.cz via smap (V2.1) id xma015205; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:38:33 +0200 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:33:47 +0200 From: Karel Volejnik Subject: StrongARM Psion Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-To: Karel.Volejnik@be-net.cz Message-Id: <99072402390502.01752@srv.attocom.cz> Organization: AttoCom s.r.o. Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.20] Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Hello, from Psion: new PSION device (end of '99) will be powered by sa-1100 at 190MHz (color display 640x480, PC card II, weight about 1100g). Nice work ;-) From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Jul 25 20:07:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA05006; Sun, 25 Jul 99 20:07:51 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JDZSG80GII95NCKH@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:07:48 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id LAA21560; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31112; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:03:53 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA26764; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA26760; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19729; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:01:42 -0700 Received: from it.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id LAA21154 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dutein71 (dutein71.et.tudelft.nl) by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA04984; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:57:14 +0200 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:57:14 +0200 From: Erik Mouw Subject: JTAG ID-code Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <9907251757.AA04984@it.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 0.99.6 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl Hi, What should be the ID code of the SA1100 after I give it an IDCODE instruction on the JTAG input? We do get an answer from the SA1100, but I've no idea if this answer is in fact correct. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jul 26 09:04:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA06086; Mon, 26 Jul 99 09:04:05 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JE0JJI2SWE9355I5@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:03:56 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id XAA20286; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 23:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28802; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 23:59:31 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA28784; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 23:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA28795; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 23:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25762; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 23:58:43 -0700 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id XAA20878 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 23:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:56:53 +1000 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:56:52 +1000 (EST) From: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Subject: Re: JTAG ID-code In-Reply-To: <9907251757.AA04984@it.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Erik Mouw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, Erik Mouw wrote: > Hi, > > What should be the ID code of the SA1100 after I give it an IDCODE > instruction on the JTAG input? We do get an answer from the SA1100, but > I've no idea if this answer is in fact correct. > Our board return 9108406B, I think it varies with chip revision though. Cheers Adam > > Erik > > -- > J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department > of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, > Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands > Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl > WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jul 26 12:11:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA06688; Mon, 26 Jul 99 12:11:16 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JE0Q3P83Z89358PS@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:11:14 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id DAA26353; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02729; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:07:49 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA29220; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA29342; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03851; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:07:11 -0700 Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.110]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id DAA10052 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mbb5.ericsson.se (mbb5.ericsson.se [136.225.151.210]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/WIREfire-1.3) with ESMTP id MAA20975 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:03:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from esealnt401.al.sw.ericsson.se (ESEALNT401.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.251.22]) by mbb1.ericsson.se (PMDF V5.2-29 #33627) with SMTP id <0FFH002GW2MA08@mbb1.ericsson.se> for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:03:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from 153.88.251.21 by esealnt401.al.sw.ericsson.se (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:03:30 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) Received: by esealnt400 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:03:30 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:03:34 +0200 From: "Anders Hedberg (ECS)" Subject: REMOVE Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-Id: <81314DE3B27DD0119A7400609719CF4B069289E4@eseldnt100.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Precedence: bulk REMOVE From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jul 30 09:58:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA21915; Fri, 30 Jul 99 09:58:30 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JE66MHV968935AAK@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:58:29 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id AAA20497; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16756; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:55:33 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA11221; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA11223; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32498; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:53:29 -0700 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id AAA22107 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:51:45 +1000 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:51:29 +1000 (EST) From: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Subject: new UNSW CSE technical report (fwd) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, hermann.haertig@inf.tu-dresden.de, ud3@os.inf.tu-dresden.de, hohmuth@innocent.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk For those of you interested. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:55:28 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew Taylor To: cse@cse.unsw.EDU.AU Subject: new UNSW CSE technical report UNSW Computer Science and Engineering Technical Report no. UNSW-CSE-TR-9906 (20 pages: compressed postscript file 9906.ps.Z) Title: Fast Address-Space Switching on the StrongARM SA-1100 Processor Authors: Adam Wiggins, Gernot Heiser School of Computer Science and Engineering University of New South Wales Sydney 2052 Australia E-mail: {awiggins,gernot}@cse.unsw.edu.au Abstract: The StrongARM SA-1100 is a high-speed low-power processor aimed at embedded and portable applications. Its architecture features virtual caches and TLBs which are not tagged by an address-space identifier. Consequently, context switches on that processor are potentially very expensive, as they may require complete flushes of TLBs and caches. This report presents the design of an address-space management technique for the StrongARM which minimises TLB and cache flushes and thus context switching costs. The basic idea is to implement the top-level of the (hardware-walked) page-table as a cache for page directory entries for different address spaces. This allows switching address spaces with minimal overhead as long as the working sets do not overlap. For small (<=32MB) address spaces further improvements are possible by making use of the StrongARM's re-mapping facility. Our technique is discussed in the context of the L4 microkernel in which it will be implemented. ftp://ftp.cse.unsw.edu.au/pub/doc/papers/UNSW/9906.ps.Z From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Aug 4 02:46:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA05585; Wed, 4 Aug 99 02:46:24 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JECQZIO226935CRQ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 02:46:23 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id RAA24714; Tue, 03 Aug 1999 17:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28801; Tue, 03 Aug 1999 17:39:40 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA28893; Tue, 03 Aug 1999 17:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA28941; Tue, 03 Aug 1999 17:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21638; Tue, 03 Aug 1999 17:34:49 -0700 Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (ns0.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id RAA25023 for ; Tue, 03 Aug 1999 17:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from infoserv.utdallas.edu (infoserv.utdallas.edu [129.110.16.2]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7E319FFCE for ; Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:31:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (vasantr@localhost) by infoserv.utdallas.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA06450 for ; Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:31:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:31:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Vasant Ramasubramanian Subject: ARM Tools and Debug Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-Warning: infoserv.utdallas.edu: vasantr owned process doing -bs Hello all: I wanted to know how useful are the ARM tools compared with the free GNU available versions/compilers. How useful is the ARMulator? Also is the Angel monitor free? Does anyone have screenshots or a detailed explanations of what all it does? I checked out ARM's site but it doesn't not describe it in the detail I would like. Thanks! Vasant. P.S. If there are any WWW sites/docs the describe the SA-1100 architecture in detail or sites that have detailed information, I would greatly appreciate the links. From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Aug 4 09:18:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA06528; Wed, 4 Aug 99 09:18:45 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JED4OQ7XJG95NGUG@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:18:35 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id AAA23198; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 00:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00839; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 00:13:54 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA30031; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 00:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA30045; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 00:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17300; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 00:13:04 -0700 Received: from eshu.request.net (eshu.request.net [208.226.156.2] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id AAA23835 for ; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 00:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from furina.request.net ([207.48.132.3]) by eshu.request.net with ESMTP id <7477-19467>; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 03:06:25 -0400 Received: from Bad.EHLO.Input ([193.159.143.91]) by furina.request.net with ESMTP id <98610545-8866> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 03:05:44 -0400 Received: by HW_MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 09:07:41 +0100 Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 09:07:40 +0100 From: "JOR. - Jordan, Roman" Subject: AW: ARM Tools and Debug Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'VASANTR@UTDALLAS.EDU'" Cc: "'Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-Id: <81413F587EB9D1118F56000092941A3EA78A85@HW_MAIL> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail2.digital.com id AAA23835 Hi, for information about the SA-1100 architecture a suggest you the url http://www.arm.com/. Somewhere at this sites is a link to available books= , which describe it much bettes than the intel homepage (where you can find more technical information). One nice book is the 'Advanced RISC Machines Architectural Reference Manu= al' by Dave Jaggar (ISBN 0 13 736299 4 - Prentice Hall). regards, Roman -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Postmaster=20 Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 4. August 1999 07:11 An: JOR. - Jordan, Roman Betreff: WG: ARM Tools and Debug > ---------- > Von: Vasant Ramasubramanian[SMTP:VASANTR@UTDALLAS.EDU] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. August 1999 01:31:24 > An: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > Betreff: ARM Tools and Debug > Diese Nachricht wurde automatisch von einer Regel weitergeleitet. >=20 Hello all: I wanted to know how useful are the ARM tools compared with the free GNU available versions/compilers. How useful is the ARMulator? Also is the Angel monitor free? Does anyone have screenshots or a detaile= d explanations of what all it does? I checked out ARM's site but it doesn't not describe it in the detail I would like.=20 Thanks! Vasant. P.S. If there are any WWW sites/docs the describe the SA-1100 architecture in detail or sites that have detailed information, I would greatly appreciat= e the links.=20 From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Aug 4 11:06:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA06942; Wed, 4 Aug 99 11:06:47 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JED8GUIHXE95NRDH@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:06:45 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA17738; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 02:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05301; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 02:01:05 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA30343; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 02:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA30305; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 02:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31084; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 02:00:29 -0700 Received: from globe.nexus.co.uk (nexusel.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.195]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id CAA01009 for ; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 02:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Bwpv-0000KN-00; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 09:55:47 +0100 Received: from [::ffff:127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11Bwpv-0003pp-00; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 09:55:47 +0100 Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 09:55:47 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: ARM Tools and Debug In-Reply-To: "Your message of Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:31:24 CDT." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Vasant Ramasubramanian Cc: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk >I wanted to know how useful are the ARM tools compared with the free GNU >available versions/compilers. How useful is the ARMulator? Depends very much on what you want to do. For Linux, the GNU tools are rather more powerful than the ARM tools. The ARMulator is good as far as it goes but of course as with any simulator it has limitations. >If there are any WWW sites/docs the describe the SA-1100 architecture in >detail or sites that have detailed information, I would greatly appreciate >the links. The SA-11xx family documentation is on Intel's web site. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Aug 4 14:19:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA07706; Wed, 4 Aug 99 14:19:42 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JEDF70C75K95NRSN@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:19:39 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id FAA17669; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 05:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02838; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 05:14:06 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA30936; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 05:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA30938; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 05:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18723; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 05:12:19 -0700 Received: from mail-out.visi.com (tele.visi.com [209.98.98.17]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id FAA18587 for ; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 05:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAE31F813; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 07:08:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20436; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 07:08:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 07:08:58 -0500 (CDT) From: mestery@visi.com Subject: Re: new UNSW CSE technical report (fwd) In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Cc: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-Warning: isis.visi.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Hi, Is anyone interested in applying the approach talked about in the paper to the Linux/ARM kernel? I would like to work on this task, and didn't want to duplicate any efforts underway. Any feedback appreciated! Thanks! -- Kyle Mestery | StorageTek's Storage Networking Group mestery@visi.com | http://www.freebsd.org/ mestery@netwinder.org | http://www.netwinder.org/ Protect your right to privacy: www.freecrypto.org On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > > For those of you interested. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:55:28 +1000 (EST) > From: Andrew Taylor > To: cse@cse.unsw.EDU.AU > Subject: new UNSW CSE technical report > > > UNSW Computer Science and Engineering Technical Report no. UNSW-CSE-TR-9906 > (20 pages: compressed postscript file 9906.ps.Z) > > Title: Fast Address-Space Switching on the StrongARM SA-1100 Processor > > > Authors: Adam Wiggins, Gernot Heiser > School of Computer Science and Engineering > University of New South Wales > Sydney 2052 Australia > E-mail: {awiggins,gernot}@cse.unsw.edu.au > > > > Abstract: > > The StrongARM SA-1100 is a high-speed low-power processor aimed at > embedded and portable applications. Its architecture features virtual > caches and TLBs which are not tagged by an address-space > identifier. Consequently, context switches on that processor are > potentially very expensive, as they may require complete flushes of TLBs > and caches. > > This report presents the design of an address-space management technique > for the StrongARM which minimises TLB and cache flushes and thus > context switching costs. The basic idea is to implement the top-level of > the (hardware-walked) page-table as a cache for page directory entries > for different address spaces. This allows switching address spaces with > minimal overhead as long as the working sets do not overlap. For small > (<=32MB) address spaces further improvements are possible by > making use of the StrongARM's re-mapping facility. Our technique is > discussed in the context of the L4 microkernel in which it will be > implemented. > > > ftp://ftp.cse.unsw.edu.au/pub/doc/papers/UNSW/9906.ps.Z > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Aug 5 22:11:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA14069; Thu, 5 Aug 99 22:11:04 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JEF9XQC9S2935EBV@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:11:03 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id NAA06172; Thu, 05 Aug 1999 13:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20017; Thu, 05 Aug 1999 13:04:55 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA03187; Thu, 05 Aug 1999 13:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA03150; Thu, 05 Aug 1999 13:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30085; Thu, 05 Aug 1999 13:02:58 -0700 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id NAA05280 for ; Thu, 05 Aug 1999 13:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Fri, 06 Aug 1999 06:02:34 +1000 Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 06:02:33 +1000 (EST) From: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Subject: Problem Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1205161142-933883353=:21680" Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1205161142-933883353=:21680 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello all, I'm writting a boot loader foARM systems (mainly for PLEB). Attached is what I've done so far (not much) it should just send a character continually down the serial port but as far as I can tell the serial port is inactive. The code should be clear (tell me if its not) just edit the Makefile.conf to pont to your tool chain and make. If anyone can have a look and make sure the code doesn't have any errors it would be a big help. 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Aug 99 15:41:19 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JEKHGJTF8Q935FY0@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 15:40:14 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id GAA03857; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 06:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32152; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 06:37:30 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA19152; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 06:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA19099; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 06:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12183; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 06:32:47 -0700 Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.110]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id GAA08235 for ; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 06:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from era-t.ericsson.se (koff.ericsson.se [147.214.173.137]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/WIREfire-1.3) with SMTP id PAA24974 for ; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 15:29:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from era-t.ericsson.se by era-t.ericsson.se (SMI-8.6/LME-DOM-2.2.5(ERA/T)) id PAA02905; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 15:29:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 15:29:15 +0200 From: Peter Danielsson Subject: support for sa1101 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <37AED7AB.D47D501F@era-t.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en Hi, I have added support for the sa1101 to the 2.2.10 - kernel. If anyone feel that they want it now, send me a mail. I'll send patches to Nicolas for inclusion in the standard (?) sa1100-tree when I feel that the other stuff we are working on is stable enough! The main change from the standard kernel is 63 additional IRQ's, and of course some new hardware defines. /Peter From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Aug 9 23:39:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA25680; Mon, 9 Aug 99 23:39:19 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JEKY7KH8I6935CP7@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 23:39:15 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA22029; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28664; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:36:15 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA20255; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA20271; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24208; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:31:23 -0700 Received: from blazieresearch.com (blazieresearch.com [199.227.113.99]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id OAA01014 for ; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cpq800.blazieresearch.com (cpq800 [199.227.113.100]) by blazieresearch.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA22502 for ; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 17:33:06 -0400 Received: by CPQ800 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 17:23:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 17:23:14 -0400 From: Jim Kasper Subject: RE: support for sa1101 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <412E1CF8088BD211AD5100805FAD9A800298EA@CPQ800> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Hi, I am starting to layout a sa-1110, sa-1111 board for my company. I am curious if any of you have used an ICE in your development of your sa-1100 boards. Also, is anyone starting to develop sa-1110 stuff? We had been looking at the Sophia ICE http://www.sophia.com/, but think maybe it is overkill. Thanks for any thoughts Jim From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Aug 10 11:54:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA27270; Tue, 10 Aug 99 11:54:08 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JELNUM48XU95O1IB@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:54:06 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA05913; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11604; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:49:57 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA22153; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA22191; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11802; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:40:36 -0700 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA04668 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:38:44 +1000 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:38:43 +1000 (EST) From: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Subject: RE: support for sa1101 In-Reply-To: <412E1CF8088BD211AD5100805FAD9A800298EA@CPQ800> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Jim Kasper Cc: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Jim Kasper wrote: > Hi, > I am starting to layout a sa-1110, sa-1111 board for my company. I > am curious if any of you have used an ICE in your development of your > sa-1100 boards. Also, is anyone starting to develop sa-1110 stuff? We > had been looking at the Sophia ICE http://www.sophia.com/, but think > maybe it is overkill. I plan to move the PLEB sdesign over to the SA-1110 during the summer. This however depends on if we can secure supplies of the chip. (Anyone with a SA-1110 supplier please let me know) Cheers Adam P.S. The Aust Ssummer is the end of the year ;) From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Aug 11 07:38:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA29772; Wed, 11 Aug 99 07:38:20 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JEMT7V4Q1895NZXU@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:38:19 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id WAA17366; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26287; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:33:33 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA25023; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA25001; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16251; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:29:08 -0700 Received: from adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.100.248.143]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id WAA11856 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from barney (benw@barney [192.168.1.7]) by adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA11139 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:28:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:26:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Williamson Subject: Spam on this list Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: benw@barney.casagrande.way To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Hi, I've received a number of spam messages lately, and the headers would seem to indicate that they are coming from the sa1100-linux list. I've attached the most recent below. Could the list be configured to prevent this? 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IF YOU CALL IN THE NEXT FIVE DAYS YOU WILL RECEIVE: NO APPLICATION FEE NO PROGRAMMING FEE AND YOUR FIRST AND LAST MONTH LEASE PAYMENT IS FREE CALL (888) 264-9272 OUR HOURS OF BUSINESS ARE 9AM - 6PM MST ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / Please remove at mailto:mbok95@usa.net?subject=remove ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Aug 11 17:41:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA01527; Wed, 11 Aug 99 17:41:05 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JENE9Y8KR495NZZ5@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:41:03 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id IAA10058; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13513; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:34:06 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA26688; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA26702; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14240; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:28:46 -0700 Received: from eshu.request.net (eshu.request.net [208.226.156.2] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id IAA09090 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from furina.request.net ([207.48.132.3]) by eshu.request.net with ESMTP id <829-10367>; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:25:54 -0400 Received: from Bad.EHLO.Input ([193.159.142.120]) by furina.request.net with ESMTP id <98610551-14922> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:25:43 -0400 Received: by HW_MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:28:37 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:28:36 +0100 From: "JOR. - Jordan, Roman" Subject: AW: Problem Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'AWIGGINS@CSE.UNSW.EDU.AU'" Cc: "'Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-Id: <81413F587EB9D1118F56000092941A3EA78A8F@HW_MAIL> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail1.digital.com id IAA09090 Hi, i don't know, if the problem already exists on your site. If so, i think = i can help you. Some times ago i wrote a simple program which runs on brutu= s. It only initialized the serial ports and sends characters and messages ov= er serial 1 and serial 3. The target platform is brutus (but it should not b= e a problem to change this). But, i have to check out if it works already. So if you need it, i will t= est it. By the way, the code is only for internal use. There are a lot of unnecessary parts in it and the form is terrible. regards, Roman -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Postmaster=20 Gesendet am: Freitag, 6. August 1999 07:06 An: JOR. - Jordan, Roman Betreff: WG: Problem > ---------- > Von: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins[SMTP:AWIGGINS@CSE.UNSW.EDU.AU] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. August 1999 21:02:33 > An: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > Betreff: Problem > Diese Nachricht wurde automatisch von einer Regel weitergeleitet. >=20 Hello all, I'm writting a boot loader foARM systems (mainly for PLEB). Attached is what I've done so far (not much) it should just send a character continually down the serial port but as far as I can tell the serial port is inactive. The code should be clear (tell me if its not) just edit the Makefile.conf to pont to your tool chain and make. If anyon= e can have a look and make sure the code doesn't have any errors it would b= e a big help. Alsoanyone interested on working on a Apex let me know Cheers Adam =20 From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Aug 17 00:02:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA09424; Tue, 17 Aug 99 00:02:45 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JEUR22BVMM935K9Q@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:02:42 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA01554; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14498; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:00:44 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA14289; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA14272; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25902; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:58:36 -0700 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA00147 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:56:50 +1000 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:56:50 +1000 (EST) From: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Subject: Re: evaluation platform In-Reply-To: <37B88680.DD52DE6A@home.se> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: thomas olausson Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, thomas olausson wrote: > > Yep got one here thats running 2.2.10. Thats if your talkinga bout > > the Brutus. What exactly are you after? > > After I've built a cross development platform (as instructed on the > Intel web site), I can build a Image, which I then gzip and upload to > the platform. > > My machine is actually a Web Phone (but has a SA-1100), normally running > Inferno. > It has a bootloader, where I can upload inferno kernels and boot from, > without problems. I have no idea about the web phone. The intel page is for the brutus and I don't think anyones tried linux on the web-phone since no one has one (do they?) > > When I upload my Linux kernel, and try to boot it, I get > "Not AIF". What is AIF? AIF is the image (executable) formate of teh ARM Software Development Toolkit. A few people have posted how to turn a binary into an AIR file. Thats why its complainning. What is the boot loader on teh web-phone? > > If I upload trash or something that's not SA-1100 code, > I get this, so it seems like the Image isn't in SA-1100 code > format. How can I double check this? The problem is the boot loader. I'm not sure how to approch this so maybe someone else on the list can help? I'm ccurrently writting a boot loader for ARM machines (well its more like a bios/debug monitor/ boot loader, should release late this year. Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Aug 17 00:10:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA09448; Tue, 17 Aug 99 00:10:35 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JEURBSCVTA935K9Q@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:10:32 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA02773; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02476; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:08:51 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA14316; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA14369; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31649; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:08:42 -0700 Received: from thalia.fm.intel.com (thalia.fm.intel.com [132.233.247.11]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id PAA25031 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmsmsx26.fm.intel.com (fmsmsx26.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.26]) by thalia.fm.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id SAA09216 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:09:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fmsmsx26.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:08:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:08:26 -0700 From: "Rao, Ram R" Subject: newest kernel to work on brutus Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hi, Does anyone have a kernel newer than 2.2.3, with the rmk2 and np5 patches working on the Brutus board? I tried the 2.2.9 kernel at one point, and it didn't seem to work properly. It didn't like the ramdisk that I was downloading even though the same one worked fine on the 2.2.3 kernel. Thanks, Ram Rao From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Aug 17 00:15:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA09467; Tue, 17 Aug 99 00:15:00 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JEURH8FVGU935K9Q@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:14:56 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA01779; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10368; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:13:22 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA14242; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA14329; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20134; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:13:02 -0700 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA01812 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:12:33 +1000 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:12:23 +1000 (EST) From: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Subject: Re: newest kernel to work on brutus In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: "Rao, Ram R" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Try 2.2.10 works fine with the itsy ramdisk on my brutus boards. Cheers Adam On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Rao, Ram R wrote: > Hi, > Does anyone have a kernel newer than 2.2.3, with the rmk2 and np5 > patches > working on the Brutus board? I tried the 2.2.9 kernel at one point, and it > didn't seem to > work properly. It didn't like the ramdisk that I was downloading even though > the same one worked > fine on the 2.2.3 kernel. > > Thanks, > Ram Rao > > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Aug 17 02:43:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA09829; Tue, 17 Aug 99 02:43:06 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JEUWNS98IE935KAN@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:43:00 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id RAA20329; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29409; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:34:56 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA14548; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA14290; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23354; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:34:23 -0700 Received: from Hydro.CAM.ORG (Hydro.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.7]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id RAA22099 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ocean.CAM.ORG (Ocean.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.5]) by Hydro.CAM.ORG (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA29273; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:33:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:33:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: evaluation platform In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Cc: thomas olausson , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, thomas olausson wrote: > > > After I've built a cross development platform (as instructed on the > > Intel web site), I can build a Image, which I then gzip and upload to > > the platform. Oh... this is wrong. You should issue a "make zImage" command and this will build a compressed kernel. The file you should gzip is the ramdisk if it isn't already. The zImage file is a compressed kernel with some code at the beginning so it is self-uncompressed when executed. > > My machine is actually a Web Phone (but has a SA-1100), normally running > > Inferno. Since it is probably different from the Brutus, you might not be able to run a kernel compiled for Brutus as is. First you must be sure of the amount of memory for each memory bank of your device. Then Linux source code might need to be modified acordingly. Next the screen is probably different so using the serial console without screen support is probably your best bet to start with. > > It has a bootloader, where I can upload inferno kernels and boot from, > > without problems. > > I have no idea about the web phone. The intel page is for the > brutus and I don't think anyones tried linux on the web-phone since no one > has one (do they?) > > > > When I upload my Linux kernel, and try to boot it, I get > > "Not AIF". What is AIF? > > AIF is the image (executable) formate of teh ARM Software > Development Toolkit. A few people have posted how to turn a binary into an > AIR file. Thats why its complainning. What is the boot loader on teh > web-phone? ... and you need to find a way to upload a ramdisk image as well, which might be tricky. > > > If I upload trash or something that's not SA-1100 code, > > I get this, so it seems like the Image isn't in SA-1100 code > > format. How can I double check this? The code is SA1100 code for sure. However it's pure binary image without any header which your bootloader can use. You need to be able to make an AIF header for your zImage file... and that's something I can't help much for. Maybe someone else knows the recipee? Nicolas Pitre, B. ing. nico@cam.org From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Aug 17 16:14:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA13217; Tue, 17 Aug 99 16:14:20 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JEVOZNCUYW935L35@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:14:17 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA11645; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13793; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:07:34 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA16952; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA16957; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23360; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:06:43 -0700 Received: from mailgate.keith-koep.com (mailgate.keith-koep.com [195.8.230.32]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA08408 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from otto (otto [195.8.230.40]) by mailgate.keith-koep.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA16457 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:09:08 +0200 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:07:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: keith Subject: Aifheader.s Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-To: keith Message-Id: <199908171309.PAA16457@mailgate.keith-koep.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Md5: cW/oAVywwcZiFdpfrB15lA== Precedence: bulk This may be pasted before your program entry to be recognised by the PBL of the ugly angel monitor. .text mov r0,r0 mov r0,r0 mov r0,r0 bl entry b . .long 0 .long 0 .long 0 .long 0 .long 0 .long 0 .long 0 .long 32 .long 0 .long 0 .long 0 mov r0,r0 sub r12,r14,pc add r12,pc,r12 ldmib r12,{r0-r3} sub r12,r12,#16 ldr r2,[r12,#0x30] tsts r2,#0x100 ldrne r12,[r12,#0x34] addeq r12,r12,r0 add r12,r12,r1 mov r0,#0 cmp r3,#0 0: movle pc,r14 str r0,[r12],#4 subs r3,r3,#4 b 0b entry: From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Aug 18 12:57:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA17400; Wed, 18 Aug 99 12:57:27 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JEWWEJMZAK935LDA@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:57:23 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id DAA14882; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11590; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:53:51 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA20388; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA20350; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17175; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:52:16 -0700 Received: from queen.cwc.nus.edu.sg (queen.cwc.nus.edu.sg [137.132.163.140]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id DAA03293 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catbert.cwc.nus.edu.sg.cwc.nus.edu.sg ([137.132.163.120]) by queen.cwc.nus.edu.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA22909 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:01:59 +0730 (SST) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:01:59 +0730 (SST) From: Amlan Saha Subject: Re: Spam on this list In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-To: a.saha@acm.org (Amlan Saha) Message-Id: <199908181131.TAA22909@queen.cwc.nus.edu.sg> Organization: Center for Wireless Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk References: Hi there I am trying to have two different set of libraries (glibc) on the same system - one with version information enabled and one without. For some of my programs, I need to load the one with versioning information and for most others I can do with the default one. Now the problem arises with the ld.so. While it recognizes the correct directory of the alternative libraries, it fails to use the ld.so in the alternative directory. It will invariably use the same /lib/ld.so for both the sets of libraries. And it seems that an ld.so meant to load a glibc without version information is not able to load one with the version avialable. This is what I am doing to preload/prespecify the path of the alternative library. I create a script for every such program which needs the alternative libaries and set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the alternative path. For example, if "myprog" needs the other set of libs, I create a script (myprog) - #!/bin/sh export LD_LIBARY_PATH=/alternative/lib /bin/myprog $* While this looks for the correct alternative libs, it still uses the default ld.so from /lib. Now, is there a way in which I could direct this fellow to pick up the ld.so which is in the /alternative/lib directory. Thanks in advance. -amlan. -- Amlan Saha as@cwc.nus.edu.sg amlan@linux.org.sg From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Aug 18 13:09:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA17467; Wed, 18 Aug 99 13:09:29 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JEWWTSAIQQ935LDN@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:09:27 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id EAA04957; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05908; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:06:14 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA20378; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA20428; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21850; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:05:40 -0700 Received: from queen.cwc.nus.edu.sg (queen.cwc.nus.edu.sg [137.132.163.140]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id EAA19051 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catbert.cwc.nus.edu.sg.cwc.nus.edu.sg ([137.132.163.120]) by queen.cwc.nus.edu.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA23066 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:15:29 +0730 (SST) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:15:29 +0730 (SST) From: Amlan Saha Subject: glibc problem Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-To: a.saha@acm.org (Amlan Saha) Message-Id: <199908181145.TAA23066@queen.cwc.nus.edu.sg> Organization: Center for Wireless Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Sorry about the misleading title in my last mail. Sheepish grin :0 -amlan. Amlan Saha writes: > Hi there > > I am trying to have two different set of libraries (glibc) on the same > system - one with version information enabled and one without. For > some of my programs, I need to load the one with versioning > information and for most others I can do with the default one. > Now the problem arises with the ld.so. While it recognizes the > correct directory of the alternative libraries, it fails to use the > ld.so in the alternative directory. It will invariably use the same > /lib/ld.so for both the sets of libraries. And it seems that an > ld.so meant to load a glibc without version information is not able > to load one with the version avialable. > > This is what I am doing to preload/prespecify the path of the > alternative library. I create a script for every such program which > needs the alternative libaries and set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the > alternative path. For example, if "myprog" needs the other set of > libs, I create a script (myprog) - > > #!/bin/sh > export LD_LIBARY_PATH=/alternative/lib > /bin/myprog $* > > While this looks for the correct alternative libs, it still uses the > default ld.so from /lib. Now, is there a way in which I could direct > this fellow to pick up the ld.so which is in the /alternative/lib > directory. > > Thanks in advance. > > -amlan. > -- Amlan Saha as@cwc.nus.edu.sg amlan@linux.org.sg From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Aug 22 00:59:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA28409; Sun, 22 Aug 99 00:59:47 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JF1SIFSNX6935K79@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:59:41 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA01239; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10652; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:57:50 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA13499; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA00309; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07260; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:55:49 -0700 Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id PAA03829 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11IK34-000LGq-0C; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:55:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11IJhP-0000Nf-00; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:33:19 +0100 Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:33:19 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: Spam on this list In-Reply-To: Message from Amlan Saha "of Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:01:59 +0730." <199908181131.TAA22909@queen.cwc.nus.edu.sg> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: a.saha@acm.org (Amlan Saha) Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk > #!/bin/sh > export LD_LIBARY_PATH=/alternative/lib > /bin/myprog $* > >While this looks for the correct alternative libs, it still uses the >default ld.so from /lib. Now, is there a way in which I could direct >this fellow to pick up the ld.so which is in the /alternative/lib >directory. Yes. Just make your script read something like this: #!/bin/sh /alternative/lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /alternative/lib /bin/myprog $* If you use "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.." you will come to grief with child processes. They will inherit the path definition from their parent and end up with a mismatch between ld.so and libc.so. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Aug 23 04:58:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA00944; Mon, 23 Aug 99 04:58:57 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JF3F5DAPQ295OHXO@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:58:57 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id TAA06042; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09435; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:50:55 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA04891; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA04879; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09713; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:49:34 -0700 Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id TAA06150 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id LAA30404 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:49:30 +0900 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:55:16 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii Subject: About booting messages Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <37C0B81435B.EECDHIROSHI@mail.funai-tky.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Hi! When I used linux-2.2.3, show booting messages from serial port (linux version, memory info, ...). But linunx-2.2.10-rmk2-np11 don't show booting messages. Of course, initializing serial port before booting.. Please advice! ---- Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD Hiroshi Ishii /\ May the Forth be with you .... always! \/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Aug 23 14:16:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA02858; Mon, 23 Aug 99 14:16:29 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JF3YML525K95OHVH@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:16:28 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id FAA16405; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 05:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08577; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 05:12:14 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA06428; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 05:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA06457; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 05:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28047; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 05:11:23 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id FAA17018 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 05:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01559 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:11:21 +0200 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:11:05 +0200 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Some questions on kernels & ramdisks Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk [Background: we're designing a minimal SA-1100 board, especially suited for robotics, wearable computers and real-time signal processing. Once the bugs are out, the design will be released under a GPL-like licence. The name for the platform is Linux Advanced Radio Terminal, or LART for short] Hi all, While writing a bootloader for our LART, I stumbled across some problems. I did find out that some constants in the kernel (most notably the memory size and location) have to be edited by hand, and that the kernel should be entered with the MMU off. I'm still left with these questions: 1) I know that the zImage should be copied to physical address 0xC0008000. What are the register values it expects ? Should I set up a stack ? 2) How do I pass a command line to the kernel ? 3) Where exactly should I load the ramdisk image ? ISTR that it should be loaded at address 0x08000000, but I don't have any memory in that space. 4) What should I do if I want to run the kernel from ROM (other than changing the entry address and not compressing it, obviously) ? 5) I want boot messages from the serial port (UART 3), do I have to do anything other than enabling the serial port from my bootloader and compiling in the kernel support ? Thanks, Jan-Derk Bakker. -- I may be obsessive-compulsive, but it's NOT a disorder ! -- Paul S. Sawyer in the Monastery From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Aug 23 15:24:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03220; Mon, 23 Aug 99 15:24:58 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JF410JEFOU95OJVU@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:24:57 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id GAA05928; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19124; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:22:02 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA05869; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA06643; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06919; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:21:20 -0700 Received: from globe.nexus.co.uk (nexusel.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.195]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id GAA25667 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Itpf-0002Gu-00; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:08:15 +0100 Received: from [::ffff:127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11Itpe-0007qo-00; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:08:14 +0100 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:08:14 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: Some questions on kernels & ramdisks In-Reply-To: "Your message of Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:11:05 +0200." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "J.D. Bakker" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk >1) I know that the zImage should be copied to physical address 0xC0008000. >What are the register values it expects ? Should I set up a stack ? R0=0, R1=your architecture number. No, there is no need to set up a stack; the kernel sorts that out for itself. >2) How do I pass a command line to the kernel ? You need to establish a "params" structure and fill it in. >3) Where exactly should I load the ramdisk image ? ISTR that it should be >loaded at address 0x08000000, but I don't have any memory in that space. The initrd start address can also be set in the params struct. >4) What should I do if I want to run the kernel from ROM (other than >changing the entry address and not compressing it, obviously) ? This is tricky. Firstly, you probably don't want to do it because there will be a performance hit. If you really do, you need to arrange for the read-only and read-write parts to be linked at different addresses (by modifying the linker script) and provide some code to copy the read-write data into its correct location before running the kernel. If you just want to boot out of ROM rather than actually running there the easiest thing is to link the kernel as normal and provide a short loader that copies the zImage into RAM and restarts it. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Aug 23 16:05:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03371; Mon, 23 Aug 99 16:05:09 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JF42FBLCZM95OJ8U@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:05:07 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA18869; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16927; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:01:45 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA06762; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA06781; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20062; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:00:37 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA29059 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA23302; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:59:24 +0200 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:58:44 +0200 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: Some questions on kernels & ramdisks In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip Blundell Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk References: "Your message of Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:11:05 +0200." [BTW, I'm currently looking at 2.2.3, as I gathered from Nico that that is a reasonably stable one on the SA-1100] >>2) How do I pass a command line to the kernel ? > >You need to establish a "params" structure and fill it in. That's the param_struct from include/asm/setup.h, right ? How does the kernel know where this struct lives, should I hardcode that in PARAMS_BASE ? Are there any memory areas that are a no-no for PARAMS_BASE, like 0xC0000000 or the location that the kernel will be uncompressed to ? [IOW, what's a safe place for this half a k of config data ? ROM is not really an option, as I'd like to make the command line boot-time configurable a la LILO] >>4) What should I do if I want to run the kernel from ROM (other than >>changing the entry address and not compressing it, obviously) ? > >This is tricky. Firstly, you probably don't want to do it because there will >be a performance hit. Not that much, as I use Burst Flash which is almost as fast as my EDO RAM. > If you really do, you need to arrange for the read-only >and read-write parts to be linked at different addresses (by modifying the >linker script) and provide some code to copy the read-write data into its >correct location before running the kernel. ISTR that Nicolas Pitre does something like that. I'll see if I can retrieve one of his patches. Thanks, JDB. -- "A satisfied customer ? We ought to have him stuffed !" -- Basil Fawlty From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Aug 23 17:44:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03730; Mon, 23 Aug 99 17:44:32 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JF45VKUCQS95OH1J@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:44:31 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id IAA10812; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32530; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:41:37 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA07083; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA07029; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00704; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:41:03 -0700 Received: from globe.nexus.co.uk (nexusel.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.195]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id IAA12292 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Iw8F-0002Px-00; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:35:35 +0100 Received: from [::ffff:127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11Iw8F-0007yL-00; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:35:35 +0100 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:35:34 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: Some questions on kernels & ramdisks In-Reply-To: "Your message of Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:58:44 +0200." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "J.D. Bakker" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk >That's the param_struct from include/asm/setup.h, right ? How does the >kernel know where this struct lives, should I hardcode that in PARAMS_BASE ? Yes. Usually it seems to be put just above the start of physical RAM. The kernel copies all the information out of it before setting up the real page tables so it doesn't have to survive very long. See the definitions of PARAMS_BASE for other architectures. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Aug 23 18:04:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03805; Mon, 23 Aug 99 18:04:02 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JF46KNRMV895OH1J@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:04:00 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id JAA09163; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00364; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:00:32 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA07132; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA07056; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10579; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:59:55 -0700 Received: from mailgate.keith-koep.com (mailgate.keith-koep.com [195.8.230.32]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id IAA13676 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from otto (otto [195.8.230.40]) by mailgate.keith-koep.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA03298 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:00:32 +0200 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:00:16 +0200 (MET DST) From: keith Subject: Universal Bootstrap Loader (Bootp/Tftp,Flash) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-To: keith Message-Id: <199908231500.RAA03298@mailgate.keith-koep.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Md5: 32WZ1z+H67Q6CMfhkvet/g== Precedence: bulk Hi, as you are discussing about bootstrap loaders. We have a bootp/tftp bootstrap loader available here ( based on etherboot ). It contains an experimental gdb-stub to talk with a (udp extended) gdb. This bootstrap-loader loads images from flash to dram or from ethernet to dram or from ethernet to flash. We are searching for volunteers to clean up and extend the package. Volker _________________________________________________________________ | | | KEITH & KOEP GMBH DEVELOPMENT OF EMBEDDED CONTROL SYSTEMS | | KOENIGSBERGER STR.2 PHONE +49 (0)202 2525 30 | | D-42277 WUPPERTAL FAX +49 (0)202 2525 333 | | GERMANY keith@keith-koep.com | |_________________________________________________________________| From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Aug 23 19:14:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA04048; Mon, 23 Aug 99 19:14:02 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JF490JF2IW95OH49@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:14:01 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id KAA20890; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14719; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:08:23 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA07278; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA07289; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28112; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:07:44 -0700 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id KAA22649 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 03:05:58 +1000 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 03:05:58 +1000 (EST) From: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Subject: Re: Universal Bootstrap Loader (Bootp/Tftp,Flash) In-Reply-To: <199908231500.RAA03298@mailgate.keith-koep.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: keith Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk At UNSW we are working on a all purpose loader/debug monitor to used for our PLEB hardware. It will basically be a bios/loader and debug monitor all in one with a modular structure to use an interface from simple serial to cmore complicated LCD/Keyboard. It will offer the following services: - Selectable interface - Loading executables (ELF/COFF/a.out) from FLASH/Disk/network - Boot/Initialisation of the hardware device - Debugging services for testing the hardware and developing OS's It's only in a early stage but I hope to have something released by early next year (jan or so) Cheers Adam On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, keith wrote: > Hi, > as you are discussing about bootstrap loaders. > We have a bootp/tftp bootstrap loader available here > ( based on etherboot ). It contains an experimental gdb-stub > to talk with a (udp extended) gdb. > > This bootstrap-loader loads images from flash to dram or from > ethernet to dram or from ethernet to flash. > > We are searching for volunteers to clean up and extend the > package. > > Volker > _________________________________________________________________ > | | > | KEITH & KOEP GMBH DEVELOPMENT OF EMBEDDED CONTROL SYSTEMS | > | KOENIGSBERGER STR.2 PHONE +49 (0)202 2525 30 | > | D-42277 WUPPERTAL FAX +49 (0)202 2525 333 | > | GERMANY keith@keith-koep.com | > |_________________________________________________________________| > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Aug 24 02:33:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA05237; Tue, 24 Aug 99 02:33:30 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JF4ODAG1L695OJTU@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:33:24 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id RAA23524; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30076; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:30:03 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA08334; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA08337; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11420; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:29:27 -0700 Received: from Hydro.CAM.ORG (Hydro.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.7]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id RAA07042 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stratus.CAM.ORG (Stratus.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.6]) by Hydro.CAM.ORG (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA25871; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:27:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:27:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: About booting messages In-Reply-To: <37C0B81435B.EECDHIROSHI@mail.funai-tky.co.jp> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Hiroshi Ishii Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Hiroshi Ishii wrote: > Hi! > > When I used linux-2.2.3, show booting messages from serial > port (linux version, memory info, ...). But > linunx-2.2.10-rmk2-np11 don't show booting messages. Of > course, initializing serial port before booting.. First you have to be sure that you enabled "Console on SA1100 serial port" while configuring the kernel. Next look in the file linux/drivers/char/serial_sa1100.c for the serial_console_setup() function. In there, be sure that the serial_echo_port is initialized to the port you wish to use. Nicolas Pitre, B. ing. nico@cam.org From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Aug 24 03:17:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA05383; Tue, 24 Aug 99 03:17:53 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JF4PWBRNVY95OKAQ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 03:17:46 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id SAA09201; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08157; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:13:49 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA08397; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA08451; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21873; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:13:30 -0700 Received: from Hydro.CAM.ORG (Hydro.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.7]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id SAA31451 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stratus.CAM.ORG (Stratus.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.6]) by Hydro.CAM.ORG (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA04075; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:09:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:09:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Some questions on kernels & ramdisks In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "J.D. Bakker" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-To: Nicolas Pitre Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, J.D. Bakker wrote: > 1) I know that the zImage should be copied to physical address 0xC0008000. > What are the register values it expects ? Should I set up a stack ? No stack required. The entry point is in linux/arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.S. You'll see there that r0 and r1 should have specific values upon entering there, but those values are actually hardwired for the CONFIG_ARCH_SA1100 case. Since most of us have very minimalistic loaders, it was convenient to do it there. > 2) How do I pass a command line to the kernel ? Again there is a special structure that should be used as long as it is generated by the loader. If you look at linux/arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.S and linux/arch/arm/kernel/setup.c for #ifdef CONFIG_SA1100_VICTOR, you'll see that I've made something that let me pass a parameter string pointed by r0 upon entering the kernel. You can use the same code if you want to hack something quickly. > 3) Where exactly should I load the ramdisk image ? ISTR that it should be > loaded at address 0x08000000, but I don't have any memory in that space. In fact this is for the Brutus since it has all its memory mapped contigously from 0 by Angel before the kernel starts. The idea is to put your ramdisk image in ram where it won't be overwritten during the boot process, let's say from the second meg and above. Then you need to specify in linux/arch/arm/kernel/setup.c where it will be once the kernel has mapped all ram contigously from address 0xc0000000. > 4) What should I do if I want to run the kernel from ROM (other than > changing the entry address and not compressing it, obviously) ? You should link the kernel so its .text and .rodata sections resides in rom and the rest is copied in ram. Probably you'll have to have it appear at 0xc0008000 for less modifications to the generic kernel code. ... Be prepared for a lot of fun! :-) > 5) I want boot messages from the serial port (UART 3), do I have to do > anything other than enabling the serial port from my bootloader and > compiling in the kernel support ? Also look at linux/drivers/char/serial_sa1100.c for serial_console_setup(). You may change the serial port initialisation if you don't like the defaults. For the long run, I suggest that you add a CONFIG_SA1100_LART in linux/arch/arm/config.in and uses #ifdef CONFIG_SA1100_LART to identify your customizations. Then send a patch to me and I'll include it in the main SA1100 patch and you won't have to do it for each kernel releases. Nicolas Pitre, B. ing. nico@cam.org From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Aug 24 23:08:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA09246; Tue, 24 Aug 99 23:08:22 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JF5VHF64K895OJNK@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:08:20 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA29261; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20747; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:06:01 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA14760; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA14734; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09555; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:03:57 -0700 Received: from thalia.fm.intel.com (thalia.fm.intel.com [132.233.247.11]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id OAA28197 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmsmsx29.FM.INTEL.COM (fmsmsx29.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.29]) by thalia.fm.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id RAA15859 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:04:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fmsmsx29.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:03:42 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:03:41 -0700 From: "Rao, Ram R" Subject: touchscreen driver for the brutus Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hi, Does anyone have a touchscreen driver already implemented for the Brutus board? Is the Itsy's touchscreen driver the best starting point? Thanks for your help, Ram Rao From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Aug 25 16:19:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA12443; Wed, 25 Aug 99 16:19:15 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JF6VHBX0OU95OLS7@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:19:13 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA00091; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22878; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:14:38 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA17718; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA17726; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:10:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31571; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:10:41 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA09339 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA05253 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:10:39 +0200 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:09:46 +0200 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Anyone have a ramdisk image for SA-1100 ? In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk References: Hi all, Does anyone have a ramdisk image for the SA-1100 ? I was trying to download the one that is linked from the Intel site (ftp://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/pub/ramdisk.gz), but that server won't let me in (and Zsolt Kiraly[sp?]'s homepage with SA-1100 info there has gone missing too). I know I can make one myself, but me and my SA board are off to a conference site tomorrow (where I'd like to show the SA off ;-), which leaves me little time for full glibc-builds and the like. Sincerely, Jan-Derk Bakker. -- Jan-Derk Bakker, bakker@mmc.et.tudelft.nl The lazy man's proverb: 'There's no business like slow business !' From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Aug 25 16:32:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA12487; Wed, 25 Aug 99 16:32:52 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JF6VXTI5G495OLS7@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:32:51 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA20142; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10744; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:26:16 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA31869; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA17762; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06761; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:23:52 -0700 Received: from linuxhacker.org ([195.89.188.122]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA02354 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30957 invoked by uid 0); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:31:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (alex@127.0.0.1) by linuxhacker.org with SMTP; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:31:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:31:06 +0100 (GMT) From: Alex Holden Subject: Re: Anyone have a ramdisk image for SA-1100 ? In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "J.D. Bakker" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, J.D. Bakker wrote: > Does anyone have a ramdisk image for the SA-1100 ? I was trying to download I don't know how well it'll work, but you could try basing one on the one I put together for the Psion 5/geofox port: http://www.linuxhacker.org/pub/flatcap/ It has Glibc, bash, and various utilities. Ping doesn't work because /etc/protocols is missing, and there is something missing from the startup script. The -lite one has ash (awful shell ;) instead of bash, various other things (like modutils) removed, but a few extra utilities courtesy of busybox. --------------- Linux- the choice of a GNU generation. -------------- : Alex Holden (M1CJD)- Caver, Programmer, Land Rover nut, Radio Ham : -------------------- http://www.linuxhacker.org/ -------------------- From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Aug 25 16:42:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA12526; Wed, 25 Aug 99 16:42:22 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JF6WB62LPK95OLS7@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:42:20 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA13231; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21998; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:39:54 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA05992; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA17797; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23789; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:36:35 -0700 Received: from mailgate.keith-koep.com (mailgate.keith-koep.com [195.8.230.32]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA11993 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from otto (otto [195.8.230.40]) by mailgate.keith-koep.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA09812 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:36:38 +0200 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:36:55 +0200 (MET DST) From: keith Subject: Re: Anyone have a ramdisk image for SA-1100 ? Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-To: keith Message-Id: <199908251336.PAA09812@mailgate.keith-koep.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Md5: cA1hEhKdXM+o5bpcq4kJ2g== Precedence: bulk Here is one (mixed aout and elf, runs with 2.0.30 and 2.2.9 ): ftp://www.keith-koep.com/pub/sa1100_OS/linux229/flashdisk.gz Volker From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Sep 1 20:30:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA10022; Wed, 1 Sep 99 20:30:21 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JFGWB95N8A95OVYZ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:30:19 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id LAA02086; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17053; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:25:46 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA13154; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA13130; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11851; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:23:47 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id LAA18796 for ; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA24671 for ; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 20:23:45 +0200 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 20:23:13 +0200 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: It works ! (status & even more questions) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk Hi all, Thanks to the great help I've had here, Linux-2.2.10 is running great on my SA-1100 board. When idling at the bash prompt, it takes < 200mW @ 220Mhz. I've only used a minimal kernel (SLIP, PPP, serial console, fbdev, basic IP, no sound, no disk interfaces) and am now trying to get the LCD working (using a 320*240 passive mono panel). Question: Does anyone have some clues on how to get the LCD interface working using the fbdev ? Hints on how to do it on color displays (eg Brutus) are also welcome. I've a small number of observations: - 2.2.10-rmk2-np11 fails to compile; fixing line 165 of arch/arm/mm/fault-common.c cures this. - the kernel *only* works when compiled with the binaries from Werner Almesberger (ftp://lrcftp/pub/people/almesber/psion/xdev-0.tar.gz) ; this is egcs-2.91.57 19980901 (egcs-1.1 release) and binutils 2.9.1.0.15. - the kernel *does not* work when compiled with a homebuilt gcc-2.95.1 with the ARM patch and binutils 2.9.1.0.25. 'Does not work' means that it (reproducably) boots up to "RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0" and then reboots (without as much as an oops), while a working kernel would proceed to "VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)". - The egcs-2.91.57 19980901 (egcs-1.1 release) / binutils 2.9.1.0.15 combo does work with the 'Split text into discardable sections'-option; again gcc-2.95.1 / 2.9.1.0.25 crashes & burns; this time with an oops. I didn't record the oops; I'll reproduce & ksymoops it if it's useful to anyone. Hope this helps anyone; so far 2.2.10 has been perfectly stable for me. Sincerely, Jan-Derk Bakker. -- "There is a style of design I call "wishful thinking engineering." It starts with something like "pigs can fly if you feed them enough beans" and develops utopian plans such as like having everyone commute to work riding on personal pigs, and along the way ignores minor details such as the consequent rain of the non-gaseous byproducts." (Vernon Schryver in n.a.n-a.e) From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Sep 1 23:03:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA10451; Wed, 1 Sep 99 23:03:28 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JFH1N3QPGI95OVDW@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 23:03:26 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA26069; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07784; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:01:06 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA13331; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA13352; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31992; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:00:34 -0700 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id OAA01373 for ; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11MHTs-000M9u-0K; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 20:59:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11MHTm-0003vT-00; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 21:59:38 +0100 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 21:59:38 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: It works ! (status & even more questions) In-Reply-To: "Message from J.D. Bakker" "of Wed, 01 Sep 1999 20:23:13 +0200." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "J.D. Bakker" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk >- the kernel *only* works when compiled with the binaries from Werner > Almesberger (ftp://lrcftp/pub/people/almesber/psion/xdev-0.tar.gz) ; > this is egcs-2.91.57 19980901 (egcs-1.1 release) and binutils 2.9.1.0.15. It does not work to build kernels from those sources with gcc 2.95, owing to various bad interactions. Patches do exist and later kernels should be OK. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Sep 1 23:28:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA10527; Wed, 1 Sep 99 23:28:16 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JFH2IUW86U95OVDW@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 23:28:15 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA12091; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05599; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:25:14 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA13436; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA13433; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12697; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:24:53 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id OAA28092 for ; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA24978 for ; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 23:24:51 +0200 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 23:23:44 +0200 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: It works ! (status & even more questions) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk >- the kernel *only* works when compiled with the binaries from Werner > Almesberger (ftp://lrcftp/pub/people/almesber/psion/xdev-0.tar.gz) ; > this is egcs-2.91.57 19980901 (egcs-1.1 release) and binutils 2.9.1.0.15. ...that URL should be ftp://lrcftp.epfl.ch/pub/people/almesber/psion/xdev-0.tar.gz ; sorry about that. JDB [LART pics online at http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/] -- "A satisfied customer ? We ought to have him stuffed !" -- Basil Fawlty From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Sep 3 22:21:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA21927; Fri, 3 Sep 99 22:21:15 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JFJSRGJCDY935UTQ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:21:13 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id NAA20811; Fri, 03 Sep 1999 13:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19210; Fri, 03 Sep 1999 13:18:50 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA20884; Fri, 03 Sep 1999 13:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA20866; Fri, 03 Sep 1999 13:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19209; Fri, 03 Sep 1999 13:15:19 -0700 Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (mail-blue.research.att.com [135.207.30.102]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id NAA07954 for ; Fri, 03 Sep 1999 13:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigmail.research.att.com (bigmail.research.att.com [135.207.30.101]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EC34CE2B for ; Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from geuse.ha6174 (geuse.research.att.com [135.207.26.133]) by bigmail.research.att.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA12077 for ; Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from geuse.research.att.com by geuse.ha6174 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA18326; Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:16:04 -0400 Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:16:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregory Durant Subject: linux port to brutus Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-To: Gregory Durant Message-Id: <199909032016.QAA18326@geuse.ha6174> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Md5: 9AeDKvCf7Zxjbb9RPcwohA== Precedence: bulk I'm trying to load the linux port (included in the distribution) to the sa-1100 evaluation board (Brutus). I've followed the linux-distrib-notes and progressed to the point where the angelboot program gives indication that the execution of the kernel is starting (print output of "Starting ... ([20] bytes in reply message)"). Unfortunately, nothing happens after this. Should I see a login prompt on the evaluation board console and/or through the board serial port 1? All suggestions are appreciated! Regards, Gregory M. Durant AT&T Labs Research Initiatives 180 Park Avenue. Blg. 103 Rm-A009 Florham Park, NJ 07932 (973) 360-7110 (973) 360-8455 (fax) durant@research.att.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Sep 7 04:54:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA01815; Tue, 7 Sep 99 04:54:23 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JFODCXATMM935X8D@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:54:21 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id TAA28659; Mon, 06 Sep 1999 19:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20477; Mon, 06 Sep 1999 19:46:27 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA00898; Mon, 06 Sep 1999 19:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA00942; Mon, 06 Sep 1999 19:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28771; Mon, 06 Sep 1999 19:44:10 -0700 Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id TAA16835 for ; Mon, 06 Sep 1999 19:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id LAA12979 for ; Tue, 07 Sep 1999 11:44:04 +0900 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 11:51:12 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii Subject: About Real-Time linux Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <37D47DA0296.0181HIROSHI@mail.funai-tky.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Hi, Everyone hacking today! So, Anyone interesting Real-Time Linux? RT-linux(http://luz.cs.nmt.edu/~rtlinux/) seems only for i386 user. How about arm or StrongArm? Thanks, ---- Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD Hiroshi Ishii /\ May the Forth be with you .... always! \/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Sep 10 08:15:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA17718; Fri, 10 Sep 99 08:15:15 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JFSR8ZYBOO95PDVJ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:15:14 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id XAA29579; Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03569; Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:09:09 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA12682; Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA12698; Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01067; Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:04:23 -0700 Received: from cet.cet.st.com.sg ([203.116.85.223]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id XAA17605 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nicodemus (cet.st.com.sg [132.0.28.188] (may be forged)) by cet.cet.st.com.sg (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA00595 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:03:30 +0800 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:07:22 +0800 From: Alan Chong Subject: Sign up Mail List Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <000b01befb52$bf64d8e0$bc1c0084@nicodemus> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01BEFB95.CD44F560" Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Priority: 3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BEFB95.CD44F560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wish to sign up wish list Alan Chong Senior Associate Engineer Data Comms Division CET Technologies Pte Ltd chongsm@cet.st.com.sg ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BEFB95.CD44F560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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1999 14:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27958 invoked from network); Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:43:14 +0000 Received: from proxy.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:43:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:56:05 -0700 From: Terry Ewing Subject: archives Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: terrye@mail1.dcomm.net (Unverified) To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990913145539.01bdfa30@mail1.dcomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Can anyone point me to a website containing archives of this list? - Terry Ewing Deepwell Internet Services From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Sep 16 02:07:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA14544; Thu, 16 Sep 99 02:07:37 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id 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(8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17737 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:57:44 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:57:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.2.12-rmk1-np12 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Yes, a new patch is available from: ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico The new stuff in there are: - merged IRDA support with the serial driver - cleanup and optimization for the memory configuration macros - SA1101 support from Peter Danielsson - Tifon implementation from Peter Danielsson - LART implementation from J.D. Bakker - fixed compilation problem from previous patch This time, I tested compilation for Brutus and Victor. I tested execution on a Victor only. At the moment I tried this kernel compiled with egcs-1.1.1+PhilB patches and gcc-2.95.1. It runs OK if compiled with egcs-1.1.1 but it DOES crash eventually if compiled with gcc-2.95.1. Be warned. It may work with some other compiler version but I currently only have those mentionned above. >From now I'll try to merge this into 2.3.18 and hopefully be able to submit something to Russell before next week. Of course I'm interested in any reports of success or failure about this patch, especially because I made some changes that could break on some other SA1100 implementations. Please tell me how it works for you. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Sep 21 15:24:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by it.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA07364; Tue, 21 Sep 99 15:24:19 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JG8JFNKO7Y95PTX9@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:24:16 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id GAA10438; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08325; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:10:23 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA23617; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA23856; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11461; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:01:15 -0700 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id GAA09159 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:00:32 +1000 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:00:31 +1000 (EST) From: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Subject: Brutus Memory Config Register Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk What should be bhe memory configuration Registers values for brutus running at 206Mhz with 60ns RAM? Cheers Adam P.S. I'm after the values for all 7 registers actually From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Sep 27 22:13:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03667; Mon, 27 Sep 99 22:13:32 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGHBH53GPQ95Q79Y@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:13:30 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id NAA08089; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27078; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:06:19 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA16448; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA16447; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07471; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:04:23 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id NAA11570 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA24493; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:04:10 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:04:01 +0200 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Modules broken on 2.2.1[02] on SA-1100 ? Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk Hi all, [quick Q: is there any way to access physical memory locations, specifically the GPIO registers, from userspace on SA-linux ? mmap(2) or read(2) from either /dev/mem or /dev/kmem don't seem to work] As per the subject. insmod on either 2.2.10-rmk2-np11 or 2.2.12-rmk1-np12 gives a very reproducible oops and a solid hang. I tried a home-compiled insmod as well as the one from RedHat rawhide-arm4l; same results. I tried the null module below as well as loop.o, dummy.o and ppp-deflate.o; no change. Platform: LART board, SA-1100DA rev 9; 32M memory Tools: gcc version egcs-2.91.57 19980901 (egcs-1.1 release) binutils 2.9.1.0.15 The module that I used: /* * void.c * Dummy test driver. */ #include #include int __init init_module(void) { printk(KERN_CRIT "Reached init_module.\n"); return 0; } void cleanup_module(void) { printk(KERN_CRIT "Reached cleanup_module.\n"); } The result: bash-2.01# insmod -V insmod version 2.1.121 bash-2.01# ./insmod dummy.o bash-2.01# insmod void.o Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32 Vectors: 00000000: ef9f0000 ea0000a1 e59ff398 ea000093 ea000086 ea0000a9 ea000078 ea0000a6 00000020: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 Stubs: 00000200: e59fd1a4 e24ee004 e58de000 e14fe000 e58de004 e3ced03f e38dd093 e169f00d 00000220: e20ee00f e28fd0b4 e79de10e e1b0f00e e59fd17c e24ee008 e58de000 e14fe000 00000240: e58de004 e3ced03f e38dd093 e169f00d e20ee00f e28fdf41 e79de10e e1b0f00e 00000260: e59fd14c e24ee004 e58de000 e14fe000 e58de004 e3ced03f e38dd093 e169f00d 00000280: e21ee00f 059fe114 159fe114 e1b0f00e e59fd118 e58de000 e14fe000 e58de004 000002a0: e3ced03f e38dd093 e169f00d e20ee00f e28fd068 e79de10e e1b0f00e e25ef004 000002c0: eafffffe 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 000002e0: c000f5e0 c000f388 c000f388 c000f4a0 c000f388 c000f388 c000f388 c000f388 00000300: c000f388 c000f388 c000f388 c000f388 c000f388 c000f388 c000f388 c000f388 00000320: c000f660 c000f39c c000f39c c000f520 c000f39c c000f39c c000f39c c000f39c 00000340: c000f39c c000f39c c000f39c c000f39c c000f39c c000f39c c000f39c c000f39c 00000360: c000f580 c000f374 c000f374 c000f440 c000f374 c000f374 c000f374 c000f374 00000380: c000f374 c000f374 c000f374 c000f374 c000f374 c000f374 c000f374 c000f374 000003a0: c000f6e0 c000f360 c000f820 c00bf8d0 c00bf8dc c00bf8e8 00000000 00000000 000003c0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 000003e0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000400: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000420: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000440: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000460: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000480: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 000004a0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 The oops, run through ksymoops: Options used: -v ../../vmlinux (specified) -o ../../modules (specified) -K (specified) -L (specified) -m ../../System.map (specified) -c 1 (default) No modules in ksyms, skipping objects Reading Oops report from the terminal Internal error: Oops: 0 CPU: 0 pc : [] lr : [] sp : c1635ed4 ip : c1635f2c fp : c1635f28 r10: 400fea44 r9 : ffffffea r8 : c2800048 r7 : c28000c8 r6 : 00000000 r5 : c2800000 r4 : 00000000 r3 : c280004c r2 : c00f6350 r1 : c00e5000 r0 : c2800088 Flags: NzCv IRQs on FIQs on Mode SVC_32 Segment user Control: C07B917F Table: C07B917F DAC: 00000015 Process insmod (pid: 27, stackpage=c1635000) Stack: c1635f00: c2800060 c401ca64 a0000013 ffffffff c1635fb0 c1635f20: c1635f2c c001ff48 c2800058 00000004 c2800048 c1635f3c c2800048 c06e0000 c1635f40: c06e2000 00000048 c00c0e44 c2800048 000000c8 00000000 00000000 00000000 c1635f60: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 c1635f80: 00000000 00000000 00000000 020113e0 c000f908 00000080 c1634000 c1635ff4 c1635fa0: 00000000 00000000 c1635fb4 c000f760 c001f958 020113e0 020113e0 02017d90 c1635fc0: 00000000 00000000 020113e0 00000002 02000a24 02008260 0200472c 00000000 c1635fe0: 400fea44 bffffe38 02017d90 bffffd40 020046bc 02007ee8 60000010 020113e0 Backtrace: Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] r9 = 00000000 r8 = c1635ff4 r7 = c1634000 r6 = 00000080 r5 = c000f908 r4 = 020113e0 Code: pc not in code space Warning, Code line not seen, dumping what data is available >>EIP: c401ca64 Trace: c280004c Trace: c001ff48 Trace: c001f94c Trace: c000f760 1 warning issued. Results may not be reliable. Any ideas ? JDB -- Jan-Derk Bakker, bakker@mmc.et.tudelft.nl The lazy man's proverb: 'There's no business like slow business !' From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Sep 27 22:48:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03768; Mon, 27 Sep 99 22:48:32 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGHCPJS6XY936AOJ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:48:29 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id NAA24910; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20475; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:44:55 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA16498; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA16603; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05355; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:44:35 -0700 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id NAA27430 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11VhdL-0001a3-00; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 21:44:27 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 21:44:27 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: Modules broken on 2.2.1[02] on SA-1100 ? In-Reply-To: "Message from J.D. Bakker" "of Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:04:01 +0200." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "J.D. Bakker" Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: >[quick Q: is there any way to access physical memory locations, >specifically the GPIO registers, from userspace on SA-linux ? mmap(2) or >read(2) from either /dev/mem or /dev/kmem don't seem to work] Mmap'ing /dev/mem ought to give you access to physical memory and is probably the right way to do this. I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't work on the SA-1100 offhand. >gcc version egcs-2.91.57 19980901 (egcs-1.1 release) >binutils 2.9.1.0.15 What version of modutils? >Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32 >CPU: 0 >pc : [] lr : [] >sp : c1635ed4 ip : c1635f2c fp : c1635f28 My best guess is that something is going wrong with the code that resolves branches when the module is loaded. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Sep 27 23:46:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03934; Mon, 27 Sep 99 23:46:50 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGHEQWOYCQ9367JA@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:46:51 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA12672; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30977; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:42:39 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA12503; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA16729; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25832; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:42:18 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id OAA16470 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA24884; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:41:58 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:41:28 +0200 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: Modules broken on 2.2.1[02] on SA-1100 ? In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip Blundell Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk References: "Message from J.D. Bakker" "of Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:04:01 +0200." >>[quick Q: is there any way to access physical memory locations, >>specifically the GPIO registers, from userspace on SA-linux ? mmap(2) or >>read(2) from either /dev/mem or /dev/kmem don't seem to work] > >Mmap'ing /dev/mem ought to give you access to physical memory and is >probably the right way to do this. I can't think of any reason why it >shouldn't work on the SA-1100 offhand. Theory: The SA-1100 doesn't like cache line reads from the internal control registers. I wrote a small app[1] that memmaps a page and tries to read the first longword. It works as expected for all areas *except* the space between 0x8000 0000 and 0xBFFF FFFF. That's where the internal control registers of the SA live; if I point my app there, the mmap(2) will succeed but reading the data invariably yields Internal error: External abort on linefetch: 6 My guess is that the memory is mapped cacheable, and the SA is allergic to the ensuing line fills. A) Does this sound plausible ? B) Is there a way to fix this ? >>gcc version egcs-2.91.57 19980901 (egcs-1.1 release) >>binutils 2.9.1.0.15 > >What version of modutils? 2.1.121. >>Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32 >>CPU: 0 >>pc : [] lr : [] >>sp : c1635ed4 ip : c1635f2c fp : c1635f28 > >My best guess is that something is going wrong with the code that resolves >branches when the module is loaded. Anything I can do to fix/resolve that ? JDB. [1] Simple mmapper: #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #define FATAL do { fprintf(stderr, "Error at line %d, file %s (%d) [%s]\n", \ __LINE__, __FILE__, errno, strerror(errno)); exit(1); } while(0) #define MAP_SIZE 4096 int main(int argc, char **argv) { int fd; unsigned long *addr; off_t target = 0xE0000000; if(argc > 1) target = strtol(argv[1], 0, 0) & 0xFFFFF000; if((fd = open("/dev/mem", O_RDWR)) == -1) FATAL; printf("/dev/mem opened.\n"); fflush(stdout); /* Map one page of the always-zero memory */ addr = (unsigned long *) mmap(0, MAP_SIZE, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, fd, target); if(addr == (unsigned long *) -1) FATAL; printf("Memory mapped at address %p.\n", addr); fflush(stdout); printf("Value at address 0x%X (%p): 0x%X\n", target, addr, *addr); fflush(stdout); if(munmap(addr, MAP_SIZE) == -1) FATAL; close(fd); return 0; } -- Jan-Derk Bakker, bakker@mmc.et.tudelft.nl The lazy man's proverb: 'There's no business like slow business !' From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Sep 27 23:55:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03952; Mon, 27 Sep 99 23:55:06 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGHF102A0O95QDY7@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:55:02 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA16193; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00358; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:51:35 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA16703; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA21839; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06475; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:51:19 -0700 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org.uk (m59-nsv3-trogon.tch.cableol.net [194.168.16.209]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id OAA16251 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (linux@raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA01390; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:51:07 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA00894; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:49:47 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:49:47 +0100 (BST) From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk Subject: Re: Modules broken on 2.2.1[02] on SA-1100 ? In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell) Cc: J.D.Bakker@ITS.TUDelft.NL, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <199909272149.WAA00894@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Philip Blundell writes: > >Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32 > >CPU: 0 > >pc : [] lr : [] > >sp : c1635ed4 ip : c1635f2c fp : c1635f28 > > My best guess is that something is going wrong with the code that resolves > branches when the module is loaded. This is the classic modutils-can't-handle-system-memory-over-32MB syndrome, seen many times on RiscPCs. I don't think it's compiler related - it's modutils-related. I thought that this was fixed ages ago (even before modutils 2.1.121 was out). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Sep 28 00:01:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03966; Tue, 28 Sep 99 00:01:15 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGHF8NEADM9367JA@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 00:01:09 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA10270; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26448; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:57:55 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA16253; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA12697; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19308; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:57:42 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id OAA09648 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA24987; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:57:34 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:57:03 +0200 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: Modules broken on 2.2.1[02] on SA-1100 ? In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip Blundell Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk References: "Message from J.D. Bakker" "of Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:04:01 +0200." At 23:41 +0200 27-09-1999, J.D. Bakker wrote: >Theory: The SA-1100 doesn't like cache line reads from the internal control >registers. Scratch that. The program was buggy; should have used strtoul instead. I can't check it thoroughly now, but it seems to work. Sorry for the wild goose chase. JDB. Note to self: Don't bother people with theories developed 5mins before the building closes. -- Jan-Derk Bakker, bakker@mmc.et.tudelft.nl The lazy man's proverb: 'There's no business like slow business !' From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Sep 28 00:04:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from TUDEDU.ET.TUDelft.NL by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03971; Tue, 28 Sep 99 00:04:37 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGHFCLQOY295QDY7@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 00:04:31 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA22704; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12423; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:00:39 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA16810; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA15044; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00599; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:00:30 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id PAA13321 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA25002; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 00:00:24 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:58:35 +0200 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: Modules broken on 2.2.1[02] on SA-1100 ? In-Reply-To: <199909272149.WAA00894@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: linux@arm.linux.org.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk References: At 23:49 +0200 27-09-1999, linux@arm.linux.org.uk wrote: >Philip Blundell writes: >> >Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32 >> >CPU: 0 >> >pc : [] lr : [] >> >sp : c1635ed4 ip : c1635f2c fp : c1635f28 >> >> My best guess is that something is going wrong with the code that resolves >> branches when the module is loaded. > >This is the classic modutils-can't-handle-system-memory-over-32MB syndrome, >seen many times on RiscPCs. I don't think it's compiler related - it's >modutils-related. My memory is *exactly* 32M; would it be useful to test it tomorrow with only one bank (16M) ? JDB [who has to run now, don't want to be locked in...] -- Jan-Derk Bakker, bakker@mmc.et.tudelft.nl The lazy man's proverb: 'There's no business like slow business !' From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Sep 28 00:08:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03983; Tue, 28 Sep 99 00:08:11 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGHFHDRT4Q936AOJ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 00:08:11 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA06801; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20351; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:06:12 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA16774; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA16826; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01842; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:06:01 -0700 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org.uk (m59-nsv3-trogon.tch.cableol.net [194.168.16.209]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id PAA14636 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (linux@raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA01482; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:05:56 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA01002; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:04:34 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:04:29 +0100 (BST) From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk Subject: Re: Modules broken on 2.2.1[02] on SA-1100 ? In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: J.D.Bakker@ITS.TUDelft.NL (J.D. Bakker) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <199909272204.XAA01002@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk J.D. Bakker writes: > >This is the classic modutils-can't-handle-system-memory-over-32MB syndrome, > >seen many times on RiscPCs. I don't think it's compiler related - it's > >modutils-related. > > My memory is *exactly* 32M; would it be useful to test it tomorrow with > only one bank (16M) ? It will more than likely work with 16M, and 24M (the bug in the 2.0 modutils went undiscovered for some time until I updated my RiscPC to have 40MB). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Sep 28 11:52:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA06495; Tue, 28 Sep 99 11:52:59 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGI442AVI2936COC@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:52:54 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA26755; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30321; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:47:57 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA18867; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA18853; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22245; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:47:16 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id CAA30696 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA26549; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:47:06 +0200 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:46:47 +0200 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: Modules broken on 2.2.1[02] on SA-1100 ? In-Reply-To: <199909272204.XAA01002@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: linux@arm.linux.org.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk References: At 00:04 +0200 28-09-1999, linux@arm.linux.org.uk wrote: >J.D. Bakker writes: >> >This is the classic modutils-can't-handle-system-memory-over-32MB syndrome, >> >seen many times on RiscPCs. I don't think it's compiler related - it's >> >modutils-related. >> >> My memory is *exactly* 32M; would it be useful to test it tomorrow with >> only one bank (16M) ? > >It will more than likely work with 16M, and 24M (the bug in the 2.0 modutils >went undiscovered for some time until I updated my RiscPC to have 40MB). Checked it with 16M; you're right, it works. Do you know how to fix this, or where I could get a working insmod binary ? How do the NetWinder folks handle this, BTW ? ISTR that their smallest model has 32M, and they do use modules. JDB [16M with an 8M ramdisk, a kernel and no swap makes me feel a bit... claustrophobic. And yes, Nico, I know it can be a *lot* tighter..] -- "There is a style of design I call "wishful thinking engineering." It starts with something like "pigs can fly if you feed them enough beans" and develops utopian plans such as like having everyone commute to work riding on personal pigs, and along the way ignores minor details such as the consequent rain of the non-gaseous byproducts." (Vernon Schryver in n.a.n-a.e) From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Sep 28 12:05:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AB06580; Tue, 28 Sep 99 12:05:22 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGI4I8WXY0936COC@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:04:20 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id DAA26604; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06419; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:00:59 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA18928; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA18929; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11715; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:00:40 -0700 Received: from globe.nexus.co.uk (nexusel.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.195]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id DAA30281 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Vtxt-0007FA-00; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:54:29 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11Vtxt-0005ZO-00; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:54:29 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:54:29 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: Modules broken on 2.2.1[02] on SA-1100 ? In-Reply-To: Message from linux@arm.linux.org.uk of "Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:49:47 BST." <199909272149.WAA00894@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: linux@arm.linux.org.uk Cc: J.D.Bakker@ITS.TUDelft.NL, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <199909272149.WAA00894@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> >This is the classic modutils-can't-handle-system-memory-over-32MB syndrome, >seen many times on RiscPCs. I don't think it's compiler related - it's >modutils-related. > >I thought that this was fixed ages ago (even before modutils 2.1.121 was >out). Yeah, I did too but maybe an old version escaped somehow. Get the latest from ftp://ftp.ocs.com.au/pub/modutils and see if it helps, I guess. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Sep 28 12:31:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA06716; Tue, 28 Sep 99 12:31:15 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGI5FMPM7C936COC@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:31:15 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id DAA06860; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07520; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:28:14 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA18486; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA19010; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25969; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:27:51 -0700 Received: from globe.nexus.co.uk (nexusel.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.195]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id DAA24485 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11VuTd-0007Lp-00; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:27:17 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11VuTd-0005gG-00; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:27:17 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:27:17 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: Modules broken on 2.2.1[02] on SA-1100 ? In-Reply-To: "Message from J.D. Bakker" "of Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:46:47 +0200." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "J.D. Bakker" Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: >How do the NetWinder folks handle this, BTW ? ISTR that their smallest >model has 32M, and they do use modules. Yeah. I guess they use a working insmod. :-) p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Sep 28 14:05:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA07262; Tue, 28 Sep 99 14:05:54 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGI8QY5Y6Q936CB6@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:05:53 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id FAA12037; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 05:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06963; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 05:02:40 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA19415; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 05:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA19389; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 05:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27993; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 05:01:53 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id FAA23901 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 05:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA27673; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:01:43 +0200 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:00:54 +0200 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: Modules broken on 2.2.1[02] on SA-1100 ? In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip Blundell Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk References: <199909272149.WAA00894@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> At 11:54 +0200 28-09-1999, Philip Blundell wrote: >>This is the classic modutils-can't-handle-system-memory-over-32MB syndrome, >>seen many times on RiscPCs. I don't think it's compiler related - it's >>modutils-related. >> >>I thought that this was fixed ages ago (even before modutils 2.1.121 was >>out). > >Yeah, I did too but maybe an old version escaped somehow. Get the latest >from >ftp://ftp.ocs.com.au/pub/modutils and see if it helps, I guess. That did the trick. Thanks a lot ! JDB. -- "A satisfied customer ? We ought to have him stuffed !" -- Basil Fawlty From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Oct 5 00:37:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03150; Tue, 5 Oct 99 00:37:59 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGR8KKXN2O936HGS@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 00:37:58 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA11781; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15887; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:34:29 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA05321; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA05317; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14640; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:34:01 -0700 Received: from fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com (ns.arm.com [208.193.202.3]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA15550 for ; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com; id PAA09636; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:27:17 -0700 Received: from dhcp47.losgatos.arm.com(194.202.50.238) by fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com via smap (4.1) id xma009614; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:26:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:27:00 -0500 From: Ian Field Subject: pppd Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <37F90D94.6E0B5F2@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <9910042158.AA03047@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> I'm trying to get pppd working on a SA1100. I've taken a look at pages like :: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO-27.html Has someone gotten this to work, and if so, what did you type and/or put in your scripts, on the PC and on the ARM. Cheers, IAN From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Oct 5 00:11:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03097; Tue, 5 Oct 99 00:11:37 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGR7MWTYMY936HGS@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 00:11:32 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA03003; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17023; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:01:17 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA05219; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 14:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA05218; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 14:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01232; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 14:59:22 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA10284 for ; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 14:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dutein71 (dutein71.et.tudelft.nl) by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03047; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 23:58:04 +0200 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 23:58:03 +0200 From: Erik Mouw Subject: Announce: blob-1.0.0, a bootloader for SA1100 based systems Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9910042158.AA03047@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 0.99.6 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl Hi all, I'd like to announce the first release of blob, a bootloader for SA1100 based systems. From the README file: ** What is blob? ---------------- Blob is the Boot Loader OBject, the boot loader for the LART. Blob is able to boot a Linux kernel stored in flash or RAM and provide that kernel with a ramdisk (again from flash or RAM). Blob is copyrighted by Jan-Derk Bakker (J.D.Bakker@its.tudelft.nl) and Erik Mouw (J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl). Blob is released with a GNU GPL license. ** So what is LART? ------------------- LART is the Linux Advanced Radio Terminal, a small low power computing element used in the MMC project (http://mmc.et.tudelft.nl/ and http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/). ** Commands ----------- Blob knows several commands, typing "help" (without the ") will show you which: Help for blob 1.0.0, the LART bootloader The following commands are supported: * boot [kernel options] Boot Linux with optional kernel options * download {kernel|ramdisk} Download kernel or ramdisk image to RAM * flash {kernel|ramdisk} Copy kernel or ramdisk from RAM to flash * help Get this help * reload {kernel|ramdisk} Reload kernel or ramdisk from flash to RAM * reset Reset terminal * speed Set download speed * status Display current status Blob is distributed with a GNU GPL license and can be downloaded from http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/blob/ (sorry, no nifty webpage yet). Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Oct 5 04:42:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA03831; Tue, 5 Oct 99 04:42:10 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGRH3FK7RW95QM48@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 04:42:08 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id TAA12528; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22474; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:35:42 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA05860; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA05856; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13807; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:35:02 -0700 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f126.hotmail.com [216.32.181.126]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id TAA12300 for ; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 99335 invoked by uid 0); Tue, 05 Oct 1999 02:34:56 +0000 Received: from 130.65.157.236 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:34:56 -0700 (PDT) From: John_Justin_Ray _ Subject: RAMDISK image Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Cc: Devel@netwinder.com, Linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <19991005023456.99334.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Precedence: bulk X-Originating-Ip: [130.65.157.236] Our group would like to know where we can obtain a RAMdisk image or creating a RAMdisk image for the Sa1100 board using the Strongarm chip. The link in: http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/applnots/sa1100lx/download.htm#1001846 which is: ftp://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/pub/ramdisk.gz is broken. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Oct 10 08:51:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedv.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AB02749; Sun, 10 Oct 99 08:51:07 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JGYP7O62CM95R8AZ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:50:10 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id XAA16606; Sat, 09 Oct 1999 23:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30728; Sat, 09 Oct 1999 23:48:12 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA24744; Sat, 09 Oct 1999 23:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA24747; Sat, 09 Oct 1999 23:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18965; Sat, 09 Oct 1999 23:43:54 -0700 Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (ns0.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id XAA15912 for ; Sat, 09 Oct 1999 23:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apache.utdallas.edu (apache.utdallas.edu [129.110.16.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4235C19FFDE; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 01:40:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (vasantr@localhost) by apache.utdallas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA29074; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 01:40:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 01:40:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Vasant Ramasubramanian Subject: Brutus Info In-Reply-To: <002e01bf11c1$23ea9640$4df63cd1@mmtdave> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-Warning: apache.utdallas.edu: vasantr owned process doing -bs Actually looking over the spread of documentation for Brutus, I found that the version of Angel that runs on Brutus uses *DRAM* and not SRAM. This means that the switch (14) that choose between SRAM / DRAM on the Brutus board is correct as marked in the documentation, however Angel isn't configured for SRAM usage. I'm sending an e-mail because the Intel representative I spoke to simply stated that "S14 is opposite of what's in the documentation." That's not correct, the *default* value should be opposite(use DRAM instead of SRAM), yet SW14 maintains the exact same functionality as marked in the documentation. Understandably, this more than likely won't matter too much if you want to get Linux going; it's a heads up for those of us who might be doing more / different things. Also, has anyone soldered in the 1Mx16 Flash parts and gotten it to work? Thanks, Vasant. From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Oct 17 18:05:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AB27976; Sun, 17 Oct 99 18:05:37 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JH7PFTM9JG8WW9QR@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:33:56 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id KAA22382; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25457; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:31:33 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA16817; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA16805; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23051; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:29:55 -0700 Received: from adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.100.248.143]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id KAA16337 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biff (biff [192.168.1.4]) by adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA06500 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:23:53 -0700 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:29:53 -0700 From: Ian Field Subject: toolchain Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <011901bf17fc$0ed809e0$0401a8c0@casagrande.way> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 References: <9910152115.AA26840@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> X-Priority: 3 The empeg guys have a prebuilt toolchain based on the intel guide (SA1100). http://www.empeg.mars.org/devel/software/toolchain.php3 http://www.empeg.mars.org/devel/files/arm-linux-toolchain.i386.tar.gz Cheers, IAN > >Could you install it in /usr/local instead of /usr? In that way the > >toolchain won't mess with the distribution's package manager (be it rpm, > >dpkg or whatever). > > It won't do any harm anyway. Neither dpkg nor RPM care if you install extra > files in /usr. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Oct 19 00:35:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA04146; Tue, 19 Oct 99 00:35:13 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHASJYV7L48WWD4H@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 00:35:09 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA12879; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30071; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:29:09 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA25476; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA25478; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17815; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:27:24 -0700 Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id PAA28870 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from redstone (ssdl-redstone.Stanford.EDU [171.64.108.11]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/L) with SMTP id PAA24555 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:24:00 -0700 From: Zsolt Kiraly Subject: ramdisk.gz !!!ATTN: Intel !!! Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-To: Zsolt Kiraly Message-Id: <001b01bf19b7$7a911020$0b6c40ab@stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 Hi there, The ramdisk image that was formerly located at ftp://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/pub/ramdisk.gz is now located at http://ssdl.stanford.edu/salinux/ramdisk.gz This file is referenced on several Intel websites. I would like to ask Intel to update their links to the new location. In addition, the ARM development environment setup guide that I wrote is now at: http://ssdl.stanford.edu/salinux/index.html Thanks, Zsolt From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Oct 19 20:53:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA09277; Tue, 19 Oct 99 20:53:03 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHBZ2YYKF490MUKF@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:53:00 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id LAA14350; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30826; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:49:43 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA28702; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA28692; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31622; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:48:34 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable233.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.233]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id LAA28292 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18270 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:43:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:43:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: 2.2.12-rmk1-np13 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs ... is available from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. This contains: - frame buffer fixes for LART - corection of a typo in memory address translation macros - attempt to reinforce gettimeoffday() precision - major update for empeg - some attempt to fix problems with gcc-2.95 compiled kernels and probably some other minor stuff I forget. The empeg stuff is not 100% complete (sorry guys, but some hacks can't be merged in a generic tree, it's too crude :-) )... I tested if it compiles, but don't have access to a SA1100 machine at the moment and can't tell you if it runs. So tell me how it goes. Have fun! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Oct 23 11:41:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA28501; Sat, 23 Oct 99 11:41:38 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHH0ZJIGNW8WWP53@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:41:34 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA06382; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05112; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:37:44 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA10332; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA10326; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10055; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:31:03 -0700 Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (ns0.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id CAA01627 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apache.utdallas.edu (apache.utdallas.edu [129.110.16.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02461A032E; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 04:27:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (vasantr@localhost) by apache.utdallas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA04644; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 04:27:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 04:27:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Vasant Ramasubramanian Subject: Re: 2.2.12-rmk1-np13 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-Warning: apache.utdallas.edu: vasantr owned process doing -bs On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > I tested if it compiles, but don't have access to a SA1100 machine at the > moment and can't tell you if it runs. So tell me how it goes. Unfortunetly I think it has some problems; I compiled and ran and got a pure white screen on the LCD and no text from the serial port; when using the np12 patch it worked great (everything seemed to work). I started with a new extraction of the 2.2.12 kernel and applied Russel's patch each time I tried your patch... If you need more info, I'll be glad to provide. Also, what file/files are responsible for talking to the keyboard controller? I'd like to see this code. Thanks, Vasant. From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Oct 23 22:35:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA29835; Sat, 23 Oct 99 22:35:32 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHHNTGDPH090MVHO@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 22:35:30 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id NAA09881; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04550; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:32:14 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA12044; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA12029; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31710; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:31:10 -0700 Received: from adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.100.248.143]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id NAA06983 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biff (biff [192.168.1.4]) by adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA16675 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:24:32 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:31:17 -0700 From: Ian Field Subject: sa1100 usb Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: SA-1100/Linux Reply-To: Ian Field Message-Id: <001501bf1d95$8f070dc0$0401a8c0@casagrande.way> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 References: X-Priority: 3 Hi all, I know empeg has a usb driver in the kernel, but I was wondering if anybody has some code or advice for minimal usb support ... Basically, I want to write a bootloader that uses uart3 (9600) as the console, and a second serial port for loading the kernel and ramdisk. Currently I use uart1 (115200), but I would really like to use the usb port. Which driver in x86-2.3.23 etc is closest to what I need, and any thoughts on the minimum polled usb i/o I need on the sa1100 ... Cheers, IAN From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Oct 24 01:47:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA00337; Sun, 24 Oct 99 01:47:13 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHHUJ37LWC90MVHO@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 01:47:11 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id QAA09716; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26826; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:45:20 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA12556; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA12521; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13801; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:44:40 -0700 Received: from relay1.mail.uk.psi.net (relay1.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.105.6]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id QAA14433 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from morrison.empeg.co.uk ([193.119.19.130] helo=empeg.com) by relay1.mail.uk.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11fAml-000058-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 00:41:19 +0100 Received: (from mac@localhost) by empeg.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA24263; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 00:41:35 +0100 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 00:41:35 +0100 From: Mike Crowe Subject: Re: sa1100 usb In-Reply-To: <001501bf1d95$8f070dc0$0401a8c0@casagrande.way>; from Ian Field on Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 01:31:17PM -0700 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Cc: hugo@empeg.com Message-Id: <19991024004135.A24206@fatboy.internal.empeg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.12 i686 X-Webpage: http://www.empeg.com/ X-Sending-Host: fatboy.internal.empeg.com References: <001501bf1d95$8f070dc0$0401a8c0@casagrande.way> On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 01:31:17PM -0700, Ian Field wrote: > I know empeg has a usb driver in the kernel, but I was wondering if > anybody has some code or advice for minimal usb support ... The empeg_usb driver (which is in 2.2.12-rmk1-np13) is for the NatSemi 9602 USB slave controller rather than the SA1100 one due to bugs in the SA1100 chip. It's probably a good place to start though - you might like to ignore the FIQ stuff :-) I've cc'd Hugo who wrote the driver in case he has anything further to add. > Basically, I want to write a bootloader that uses uart3 (9600) as the > console, and a second serial port for loading the kernel and ramdisk. > Currently I use uart1 (115200), but I would really like to use the usb port. > Which driver in x86-2.3.23 etc is closest to what I need, and any thoughts > on the minimum polled usb i/o I need on the sa1100 ... I doubt if there are any standard x86 USB _slave_ drivers since PC's generally only have USB _host_ ports. Luckily USB slave is much easier to implement than USB host. HTH -- Mike Crowe empeg ltd From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Oct 24 03:01:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AB00546; Sun, 24 Oct 99 03:01:58 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHHWNA0EAS90MVHO@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 02:47:50 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id RAA02473; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25780; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:46:02 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA12714; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA13113; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27554; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:45:36 -0700 Received: from adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.100.248.143]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id RAA07963 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biff (biff [192.168.1.4]) by adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA16911 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:38:58 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:45:43 -0700 From: Ian Field Subject: Re: sa1100 usb Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-To: Ian Field Message-Id: <001f01bf1db9$1a8767a0$0401a8c0@casagrande.way> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 References: <001501bf1d95$8f070dc0$0401a8c0@casagrande.way> <19991024004135.A24206@fatboy.internal.empeg.com> X-Priority: 3 > The empeg_usb driver (which is in 2.2.12-rmk1-np13) is for the NatSemi > 9602 USB slave controller rather than the SA1100 one due to bugs in > the SA1100 chip. It's probably a good place to start though - you > might like to ignore the FIQ stuff :-) bugs ... d'oh, now that you mention it, I recall hearing something about that. Anyone know what is specifically wrong (URL?). > > Which driver in x86-2.3.23 etc is closest to what I need, and any thoughts > > on the minimum polled usb i/o I need on the sa1100 ... > > I doubt if there are any standard x86 USB _slave_ drivers since PC's > generally only have USB _host_ ports. Luckily USB slave is much easier > to implement than USB host. Sorry about that ... I was a little vague. What I meant was, on the PC side, which master device driver will talk to a slave (mouse, ezusb ...)? I'm still trying to figure out if the UDC controls all of the protocol such that it's basically a /dev/serial I 'cat' to and from on the PC ... or do I need to add specific init code and a (basic) protocol layer on the PC and SA1100 sides. Cheers, IAN From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Oct 24 02:59:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA00484; Sun, 24 Oct 99 02:59:44 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHHX1ZUVM890MVQG@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 02:59:42 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id RAA17529; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04853; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:58:07 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA12745; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA12738; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19479; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:57:49 -0700 Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (ns0.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id RAA29328 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apache.utdallas.edu (apache.utdallas.edu [129.110.16.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F801A068D; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:54:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (vasantr@localhost) by apache.utdallas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA15595; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:54:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:54:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Vasant Ramasubramanian Subject: Re: sa1100 usb In-Reply-To: <001f01bf1db9$1a8767a0$0401a8c0@casagrande.way> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Ian Field Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-Warning: apache.utdallas.edu: vasantr owned process doing -bs On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Ian Field wrote: > > The empeg_usb driver (which is in 2.2.12-rmk1-np13) is for the NatSemi > > 9602 USB slave controller rather than the SA1100 one due to bugs in > > the SA1100 chip. It's probably a good place to start though - you > > might like to ignore the FIQ stuff :-) > > bugs ... d'oh, now that you mention it, I recall hearing something about > that. Anyone know what is specifically wrong (URL?). Check the comp.sys.arm history @ Deja, I know several people mentioned it there. Also, the 200MHz StrongARMs (Part code BA) had several problems including USB and IrDA issues. Good luck. Vasant Ram. From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Oct 24 05:04:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA00763; Sun, 24 Oct 99 05:04:25 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHI1EIXY528WWR11@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 05:04:23 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id UAA06021; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 20:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04242; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:57:59 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA13080; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA13072; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10463; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:57:28 -0700 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id TAA13323 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:55:37 +1000 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:55:37 +1000 (EST) From: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Subject: Re: sa1100 usb In-Reply-To: <001f01bf1db9$1a8767a0$0401a8c0@casagrande.way> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Ian Field Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Ian Field wrote: > > The empeg_usb driver (which is in 2.2.12-rmk1-np13) is for the NatSemi > > 9602 USB slave controller rather than the SA1100 one due to bugs in > > the SA1100 chip. It's probably a good place to start though - you > > might like to ignore the FIQ stuff :-) > > bugs ... d'oh, now that you mention it, I recall hearing something about > that. Anyone know what is specifically wrong (URL?). Earlier revisions of the chip had reliability problems. Basically it was pot luck wether the USB slave worked or not. Intel have released details on how to check if a chip is working or not and the bug has been fixed in current revisions. Cheers `Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Oct 24 12:04:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA01283; Sun, 24 Oct 99 12:04:18 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHIG32PGGE8WWRX7@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:04:16 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id DAA06756; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 03:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08054; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 03:02:05 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA14164; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 03:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA14121; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 03:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26290; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 03:00:37 -0700 Received: from relay1.mail.uk.psi.net (relay1.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.105.6]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id DAA28776 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 03:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from morrison.empeg.co.uk ([193.119.19.130] helo=empeg.com) by relay1.mail.uk.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11fKS3-0002zF-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:00:35 +0100 Received: (from mac@localhost) by empeg.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA30347 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:01:11 +0100 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:01:11 +0100 From: Mike Crowe Subject: Re: sa1100 usb In-Reply-To: <001f01bf1db9$1a8767a0$0401a8c0@casagrande.way>; from Ian Field on Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 05:45:43PM -0700 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <19991024110111.A30258@fatboy.internal.empeg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.12 i686 X-Webpage: http://www.empeg.com/ X-Sending-Host: fatboy.internal.empeg.com References: <001501bf1d95$8f070dc0$0401a8c0@casagrande.way> <19991024004135.A24206@fatboy.internal.empeg.com> <001f01bf1db9$1a8767a0$0401a8c0@casagrande.way> On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 05:45:43PM -0700, Ian Field wrote: > Sorry about that ... I was a little vague. What I meant was, on the PC side, > which master device driver will talk to a slave (mouse, ezusb ...)? I'm > still trying to figure out if the UDC controls all of the protocol such that > it's basically a /dev/serial I 'cat' to and from on the PC ... or do I need > to add specific init code and a (basic) protocol layer on the PC and SA1100 > sides. There's a generic USB device driver there somewhere (I think it's called acm) which we based our USB host driver for Linux on. Unfortunately, the USB host support in Linux isn't get completely stable API-wise AFAIK. -- Mike Crowe empeg ltd From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Oct 26 00:00:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA08113; Tue, 26 Oct 99 00:00:09 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHKJCYWDCY90MW7E@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:00:03 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA04802; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:56:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12679; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:56:00 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA19434; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA19430; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26554; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:53:24 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com ([24.200.137.233]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id OAA29915 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01003; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:47:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:47:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: 2.2.12-rmk1-np13 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Vasant Ramasubramanian Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Vasant Ramasubramanian wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > > > I tested if it compiles, but don't have access to a SA1100 machine at the > > moment and can't tell you if it runs. So tell me how it goes. > > Unfortunetly I think it has some problems; I compiled and ran and got a > pure white screen on the LCD and no text from the serial port; when using > the np12 patch it worked great (everything seemed to work). I started with > a new extraction of the 2.2.12 kernel and applied Russel's patch each time > I tried your patch... Did you 'make brutus_config' before any other make commands? > If you need more info, I'll be glad to provide. Hmmm... I'll have to find some time to try it out... Time isn't a ressource following Moore's law unfortunately. :-( > Also, what file/files are responsible for talking to the keyboard > controller? I'd like to see this code. Mostly in linux/arch/arm/special/keyb_brutus.c. However this code is quite messy. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Oct 26 03:55:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA08692; Tue, 26 Oct 99 03:55:52 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHKRLADEZW90MW86@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 03:55:50 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id SAA24688; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29076; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:50:10 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA19939; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA19906; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23594; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:49:21 -0700 Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (ns0.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id SAA29760 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apache.utdallas.edu (apache.utdallas.edu [129.110.16.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA5D1A000A; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:45:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (vasantr@localhost) by apache.utdallas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA24977; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:46:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:46:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Vasant Ramasubramanian Subject: Re: 2.2.12-rmk1-np13 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-Warning: apache.utdallas.edu: vasantr owned process doing -bs On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > I tried your patch... > > Did you 'make brutus_config' before any other make commands? Yes I did; on both np12 and np13. I started from a clean dir each time and extracted the Linux kernel and applied the patches so I made sure it was nice clean (and did a make brutus_config each time). > > If you need more info, I'll be glad to provide. > > Hmmm... I'll have to find some time to try it out... Time isn't a > ressource following Moore's law unfortunately. :-( I understand. > > controller? I'd like to see this code. > > Mostly in linux/arch/arm/special/keyb_brutus.c. However this code is > quite messy. Did you write this code? Thanks, Vasant. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Oct 26 16:00:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedv.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA12133; Tue, 26 Oct 99 16:00:14 +0200 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHLGW6YZNU8WWY2Y@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:00:07 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id GAA14535; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11661; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:56:50 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA22055; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA22067; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00718; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:55:45 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com ([24.200.137.233]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id GAA19046 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01414; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:49:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:49:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: 2.2.12-rmk1-np13 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Vasant Ramasubramanian Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Vasant Ramasubramanian wrote: > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > > > controller? I'd like to see this code. > > > > Mostly in linux/arch/arm/special/keyb_brutus.c. However this code is > > quite messy. > > Did you write this code? No. I think Peter Danielsson adapted the driver found in 2.1.35 which was originally written by the Itsy team. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Oct 27 12:02:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedv.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA16259; Wed, 27 Oct 99 12:02:21 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHML6LZXFQ90MWMD@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:13:48 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA31100; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28475; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:07:55 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA23515; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA23556; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20472; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:04:37 -0700 Received: from trantor.dso.org.sg ([192.190.204.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id CAA09570 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demerzel.dso.org.sg (demerzel.dso.org.sg [192.190.204.8]) by trantor.dso.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15187 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:03:22 +0800 (SGT) Received: from hjinyong.dso.org.sg by demerzel.dso.org.sg (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA27656 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:00:38 +0800 (SGT) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:15:34 +0800 From: kliteng@dso.org.sg Subject: assembler error Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: kliteng@dso.org.sg To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991027171534.007bb930@dso.org.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk Hello all, Need help on why the following errors occur when I tried to build a native compiler,gcc-2_95_1_tar + patch. command: make bootstrap Assembler messages: /tmp/cc0F66el.s:...Error: no such 386 instruction: 'ldmia' . . . Where do I start looking for the assembler's code ? Thanks! - jessica From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Oct 27 17:33:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA18417; Wed, 27 Oct 99 17:33:01 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHMYFLJNG890MWNW@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:32:52 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id IAA15964; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15733; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:26:37 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA23715; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA23759; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00903; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:24:19 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id IAA13567 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dutein71 (dutein71.et.tudelft.nl) by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA18356; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:22:49 +0200 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:22:49 +0200 From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: assembler error In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991027171534.007bb930@dso.org.sg> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: kliteng@dso.org.sg Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <9910271522.AA18356@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 0.99.6 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:15:34 +0800, kliteng@dso.org.sg wrote: > Need help on why the following errors occur when I tried to build a native > compiler,gcc-2_95_1_tar + patch. > > command: make bootstrap > > Assembler messages: > /tmp/cc0F66el.s:...Error: no such 386 instruction: 'ldmia' ^^^ Are you sure you are making a *native* compiler? This looks like you're making a cross compiler without the cross binutils installed. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Oct 28 01:46:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA19890; Thu, 28 Oct 99 01:46:51 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHNFNW5W088WWZMI@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:46:46 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id QAA02491; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16963; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:44:00 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA24504; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA24464; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19349; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:43:22 -0700 Received: from fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com (ns.arm.com [208.193.202.3]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id QAA04768 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com; id QAA14303; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:40:34 -0700 Received: from unknown(194.202.50.2) by fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com via smap (V5.0) id xma014301; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:40:30 -0700 Received: from magpie (dhcp47 [194.202.50.238]) by incsun1.losgatos.arm.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA07663 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:34:49 -0500 From: Ian Field Subject: XFree86 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <00fd01bf20c3$190c47d0$ee32cac2@losgatos.arm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FA_01BF2099.300B5F40" Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FA_01BF2099.300B5F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Has anybody thought about putting X onto a SA1100, using the = framebuffer as the hardware interface? I wonder if the netwinder source = can be easily adapted.=20 Does anybody know how small X can be made and still run fvwm or kde? = Would it thrash disk alot in 16 or 32MB of ram? Cheers, IAN ------=_NextPart_000_00FA_01BF2099.300B5F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_00FA_01BF2099.300B5F40-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Oct 28 11:00:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA21520; Thu, 28 Oct 99 11:00:38 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHNZ0GTQMG90MWZ5@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:00:29 +0200 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA21695; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11955; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:58:08 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA25819; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA25831; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24182; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:57:22 -0700 Received: from globe.nexus.co.uk (nexusel.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.195]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id BAA25721 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11glKX-0001XP-00; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:54:45 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11glKW-00048n-00; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:54:44 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:54:44 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: XFree86 In-Reply-To: Message from Ian Field "of Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:34:49 CDT." <00fd01bf20c3$190c47d0$ee32cac2@losgatos.arm.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Ian Field Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <00fd01bf20c3$190c47d0$ee32cac2@losgatos.arm.com> > Has anybody thought about putting X onto a SA1100, using the >framebuffer as the hardware interface? I wonder if the netwinder source >can be easily adapted. Yes; the FBDev X server works fine on SA-1100. >Does anybody know how small X can be made and still run fvwm or kde? >Would it thrash disk alot in 16 or 32MB of ram? 32 would probably be OK. You might get away with 16 but you'd have to experiment. Depends what other programs you want to run at the same time. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Nov 3 23:34:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA27256; Wed, 3 Nov 99 23:34:39 +0100 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JHX33FWQ0I90MY7C@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:34:33 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA17020; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:30:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15543; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:29:49 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA17521; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA17530; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23060; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:27:34 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA18813 for ; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:27:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from dutein71 (dutein71.et.tudelft.nl) by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA27234; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 23:26:16 +0100 Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 23:26:15 +0100 From: Erik Mouw Subject: Announce: LART schematics Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, pleb@cse.unsw.edu.au Message-Id: <9911032226.AA27234@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 0.99.6 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl Hi all, On behalf of Jan-Derk Bakker (who is temporarily without laptop and therefore without proper email access), I'd like to announce the schematics of the Linux Advanced Radio Terminal (LART), a small low power computing element used in the MMC project (http://mmc.et.tudelft.nl/). LART features: - 10x7.5 cm (that's 4x3 inch in Stonehenge Units) - 220 MHz Digital StrongARM SA-1100 CPU - 4 Mbyte flash memory - 32 Mbyte DRAM memory - Low power: peak power consumption is 1W You can download the schematics as a PDF file at http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ . For now the schematics are released on an "as is" basis; we're looking for an appropriate open hardware license. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Nov 9 11:46:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA22362; Tue, 9 Nov 99 11:46:12 +0100 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JI4S45G6TO8WX9YN@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:46:09 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA30161; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 02:43:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27089; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 02:42:49 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA04022; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 02:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA04004; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 02:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10575; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 02:40:31 -0800 Received: from DECsy.decsy.ru (decsy.decsy.ru [193.233.209.50]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id CAA06282 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 02:40:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from wint (wint.decsy.ru [193.233.209.54]) by DECsy.decsy.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA13952 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:57:41 +0300 (Moscow) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:38:06 +0300 From: Sergey Medvedev Subject: SA1110 experience Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <02b201bf2a9e$87f716e0$80d1e9c1@wint.decsy.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Priority: 3 Dear Colleague Whether there is someone with an experience in SA1110/Linux design? Or maybe someone who plane to use this platform in the near future... We would like to use SA1110 in our wireless mobile products, but we are afraid that the first version of it will contain silicon BUGs. Any recommendations will be very useful to us... Thanks Sergey Medvedev DECsy - Russia http://www.decsy.ru From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Nov 9 13:44:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA23106; Tue, 9 Nov 99 13:44:06 +0100 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JI4W84QD408WXTI8@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:43:58 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id EAA19762; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:40:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04468; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:40:16 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA04409; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:39:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA04398; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00151; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:39:47 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id EAA01289 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 04:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from dutein71 (dutein71.et.tudelft.nl) by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA23036; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:34:09 +0100 Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:34:09 +0100 From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: SA1110 experience In-Reply-To: <02b201bf2a9e$87f716e0$80d1e9c1@wint.decsy.ru> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sm@decsy.ru Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <9911091234.AA23036@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 0.99.6 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:38:06 +0300, Sergey Medvedev wrote: > Whether there is someone with an experience in SA1110/Linux design? > Or maybe someone who plane to use this platform in the near future... Have a look at the LART design (pictures and schematics): http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ > We would like to use SA1110 in our wireless mobile products, > but we are afraid that the first version of it will contain silicon BUGs. The first SA-1100 chips contained some silicon bugs (USB, SDLC), but I don't know what the current versions do. Check out the Intel webpages with SA-1100 errata. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Nov 9 18:21:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA24926; Tue, 9 Nov 99 18:21:28 +0100 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JI55WAWIFU90MWYY@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:21:25 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id JAA29711; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:19:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16713; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:19:07 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA05254; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:18:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA05248; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32234; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:18:22 -0800 Received: from mailgate.keith-koep.com (mailgate.keith-koep.com [195.8.230.32]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id JAA06948 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:18:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from otto (otto [195.8.230.40]) by mailgate.keith-koep.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA21840 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 18:21:00 +0100 Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 18:18:19 +0100 (MET) From: keith Subject: Re: SA1110 experience Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-To: keith Message-Id: <199911091721.SAA21840@mailgate.keith-koep.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Md5: CPAiQMBpouDWIdq5XKp5GA== Precedence: bulk We will start to bring up a new evaluation board, which will be like ARNOLD. The Documentation for ARNOLD is attached. Don't hesitate to contact. Volker _________________________________________________________________ | | | KEITH & KOEP GMBH DEVELOPMENT OF EMBEDDED CONTROL SYSTEMS | | KOENIGSBERGER STR.2 PHONE +49 (0)202 2525 30 | | D-42277 WUPPERTAL FAX +49 (0)202 2525 333 | | GERMANY keith@keith-koep.com | |_________________________________________________________________| From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Nov 9 18:38:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA25004; Tue, 9 Nov 99 18:38:14 +0100 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JI56I0NMTW8WXP5Z@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:38:12 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id JAA11767; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:35:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03856; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:35:45 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA05312; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:35:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA05330; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:35:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01919; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:35:27 -0800 Received: from NT_SERVER.flatpanels.com (flatpanels.com [207.196.69.66]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id JAA09338 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:35:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by NT_SERVER.flatpanels.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BF2AAF.44A1A1B0@NT_SERVER.flatpanels.com>; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 12:38:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 12:38:03 -0500 From: "Baik, Jonghyeon" Subject: [re]SA1110 experience Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Cc: "'sm@decsy.ru'" Message-Id: X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Precedence: bulk Why don't you visit our website ? Our company already made several platform with sa1100. And I have SA1110 sample board on my desk. ********************************************************************* Jonghyeon Baik email:jbaik@flatpanels.com Sr. S/W Engineer phone: 301- 490-4007 x15 Applied Data Systems fax: 301-490-4582 9140 -A Guilford Road http://www.flatpanels.com Columbia, MD 21046 ********************************************************************* From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Nov 10 10:54:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA29278; Wed, 10 Nov 99 10:54:01 +0100 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JI64KVAF2490MZ07@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:53:58 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA24832; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:45:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21918; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:43:59 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA07777; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:43:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA07820; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01135; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:42:54 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA24213 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:42:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dutein71 (dutein71.et.tudelft.nl) by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA29169; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:41:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:41:29 +0100 From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: SA1110 experience In-Reply-To: <199911100013.DAA14397@DECsy.decsy.ru> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sm@decsy.ru Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <9911100941.AA29169@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 0.99.6 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 23:54 +0000, Serg Medvedev wrote: > >> But I mean new Intel-SA1110 chip... We plane to use 128-256mbit Samsung > >> SDRAM chip with it. > >Oh, you mean the spooky BGA-only version. > Yes, I think that Intel plan to redesign it with new 0,18mkm technology (up to > 600MHz...) with PC-133 (&Rambus ?) support. That's not the SA-1110. The SA-1110 runs at a maximum of 206 MHz, while the SA-1100 runs at 220 MHz. It's exactly the same core (SA-1), the only difference is that the SA-1110 supports SDRAM (and that it comes in BGA only, which is not interesting if you want to do a small run). If you want more performance, you'd better go with the SA-1100. You are probably confused by the announcement at Intel's web site: http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/SA-2_web.htm Be careful, this is still vapourware! It is not yet released, and it is expected to be release during the first half of 2000. I don't think you'll be able to get them in significant quantities before the end of 2000. > >> We need some more performance. > > > >What do you mean with "more performance"? We can do 120 Mbyte/s to 60ns > >EDO DRAM, and then our memory interface is not yet tuned. Using 50 ns EDO > >DRAM, we'd expect to use 140~150 Mbyte/s. Oh, and sane code mostly runs > >from cache, > There is an cache-memory access speed problems in SA1100. Not that I am aware of, can you be a bit more specific here? > Why SA1110 have additional miniD cache? The SA-1110 has the same amount of minicache as the SA-1100. The idea of the minicache is to avoid cache poisoning with data intensive operations. Have a look at the manuals at http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/ . >>so memory speed is not really an issue. > To use Linux and some more network services (and maybe X-Windows) > you need more RAM. Isn't it? Depends if you want to use it as an X server or if you want to serve X clients. The Netwinder comes with 64Mbyte RAM, which is sufficient for everyday use. > Or you need to compres the ramdisk... That doesn't help you. Compressing the ramdisk is interesting if you want to store it in flash ROM (we do it like that on the LART), but as soon as you start using it, it will be decompressed. > 256Mbit SDRAM chip from Samsung use the same power as 64Mbit EDO (150mA). > I.e. this is factor of 2 of speed and only 2 chip SDRAM 16Mx16 based design! > SA1110+SDRAM really cool for mobile Linux... With the current earth quake problems in Taiwan, I hope you will be able to find a supplier for the memory you want. Don't base your design on memory you can't get. The LART was also designed for mobile use: it runs (in idle mode, that is) for ~100 hours from a single 4.5V battery, and that's without any optimisation. We hope to save some power with clock and/or voltage scaling. We have found that the real power consumers are not the CPU or the memory, but the peripheral devices like LCD, FPGAs, and FIFOs. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Nov 10 11:28:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA29578; Wed, 10 Nov 99 11:28:00 +0100 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JI65QLUE3O934QCV@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:27:51 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA00332; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28820; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:23:09 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA07615; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:22:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA07807; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:22:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01924; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:22:36 -0800 Received: from sameday.request.net (sameday.request.net [216.172.148.68]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id CAA00644 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from furina.request.net ([207.48.132.3]) by sameday.request.net with ESMTP id <337818-13982>; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:22:24 -0500 Received: from Bad.EHLO.Input ([149.225.20.230]) by furina.request.net with ESMTP id <98610503-13298>; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:22:13 -0500 Received: by HW_MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <4X54FV15>; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:22:17 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:22:10 +0100 From: "JOR. - Jordan, Roman" Subject: technical info Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-Id: <81413F587EB9D1118F56000092941A3EA78B43@HW_MAIL> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, i have a question about the SA1110 (or the SA1100) DRAM design. It is possible to make a design, which only uses one 32 bit DRAM Bank? I take a look at the SA1110 data sheet and there i found, that the four RAM banks are organized as two pairs (1/2 and 3/4). If i use DRAM, then i have to fill the two banks of one pair with the equal configuration. For instance: If i want 4MB x 32, i have to fill bank 1 and bank 2 each with 2MB x 32. Or is it possible to connect only the bank number 1 with 4MB x 32? Any ideas or experience? Thanks in advance, Roman Jordan From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Nov 10 12:03:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (4.1/BB-2.0) id AA29860; Wed, 10 Nov 99 12:03:49 +0100 Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JI66XEIDYQ934QM1@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:03:45 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA10619; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:56:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03749; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:56:38 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA07995; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA07999; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:55:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17911; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:55:29 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA30627 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:54:51 +1100 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:54:51 +1100 (EST) From: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins Subject: Re: technical info In-Reply-To: <81413F587EB9D1118F56000092941A3EA78B43@HW_MAIL> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: "JOR. - Jordan, Roman" Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, JOR. - Jordan, Roman wrote: > Hi everyone, > i have a question about the SA1110 (or the SA1100) DRAM design. It is > possible to make a design, which only uses one 32 bit DRAM Bank? > I take a look at the SA1110 data sheet and there i found, that the four RAM > banks are organized as two pairs (1/2 and 3/4). If i use DRAM, then i have > to fill the two banks of one pair with the equal configuration. For > instance: If i want 4MB x 32, i have to fill bank 1 and bank 2 each with 2MB > x 32. Or is it possible to connect only the bank number 1 with 4MB x 32? The pairing is only for configuration. On the SA-1100 you have 4 banks that have the same configuration, then you select which banks out of the four are active. The SA-1110 to give more flexibility has 4 banks organised in two configuration pairs. So bank 1/2 must have the same DRAM and bank 3/4 must have the same bank. Then you select which banks are actually active. This allows you to mix different speed DRAMs and types. So you might have 1 bank of 60ns EDO DRAM in bank 0 (or 1) and 2 banks of PC100 SDRAM in banks 2/3. Where as on the SA-1100 if you used 60ns EDO DRAM all the banks had to be the same size/speed/type of ram (or empty). Hope that clears things up and doesn't confuse you. Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Nov 19 08:40:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id IAA26451; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:40:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JIIKIWAKS290N1O5@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:40:01 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id XAA18137; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17130; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:36:46 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA09241; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:34:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA09232; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27982; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:34:21 -0800 Received: from sgsgxch01.ingrammicro-asia.com (er-stone.electronicresources.com [203.127.52.129]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id XAA30974 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from er-sgex00.ingrammicro-asia.com (ER-SGEX00 [172.29.91.17]) by sgsgxch01.ingrammicro-asia.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id XDXCRPRQ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:31:10 +0800 Received: by ER-SGEX00 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:28:45 +0800 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:28:43 +0800 From: See Hui Tan - SG-KB-TS Subject: StrongARM Linux Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Dear sir/madam, I will like to sign up for distribution lists related with Linux and Arms Thanks. > See Hui Tan, Kiwi Field Applications Engineer > Applications/Support Department > Ingrammicro Aisa Limited > 205, Kallang Bahru #04-00, > Singapore 339341 > > Tel : (65) 298-0888 > Fax : (65) 298-9134 > Pgr : (65) 9-3212167 > DID : (65) 393-1850 > > Email < see.hui.tan@ingrammicro-asia.com > > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Nov 22 04:32:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedv.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA02494; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 04:32:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JIMIPLXJ0090N4KM@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 04:31:22 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id TAA29265; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:26:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29066; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:26:28 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA20240; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:24:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA20239; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:24:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12805; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:24:08 -0800 Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id TAA28230 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id MAA23631 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 12:24:04 +0900 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 12:24:03 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii Subject: About SA1110 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <3838B7532C6.FA3AHIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Hi! I'm trying to work Linux on SA1110. I think same architecture SA1110 and SA1100. So, nothing to do about it. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF3513.2542D190-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Nov 22 10:27:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA01285; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:27:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JIMV56P4QS94E16B@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:27:32 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA00125; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 01:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16420; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 01:24:55 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA21409; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 01:24:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA21350; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 01:24:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22684; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 01:24:36 -0800 Received: from core.kaist.ac.kr (coregate.kaist.ac.kr [143.248.147.118]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id BAA01339 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 01:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from hakim (hakim.kaist.ac.kr [143.248.165.182]) by core.kaist.ac.kr (8.8.8H2/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA09454 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:20:31 +0900 (KST) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:22:25 +0900 From: Young Lee Subject: Is there SA1100 linux webpage? Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <00ce01bf34cb$171e7260$b6a5f88f@hakim> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6401 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CB_01BF3516.86F09690" Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6400 X-Priority: 3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01BF3516.86F09690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01BF3516.86F09690 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01BF3516.86F09690-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Nov 22 14:53:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA03066; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:53:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JIN4FDWKLU94E18H@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:53:11 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id FAA05293; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 05:49:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30490; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 05:49:28 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA22048; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 05:48:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA22100; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 05:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12193; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 05:48:34 -0800 Received: from core.kaist.ac.kr (coregate.kaist.ac.kr [143.248.147.118]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id FAA05438 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 05:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from hakim (hakim.kaist.ac.kr [143.248.165.182]) by core.kaist.ac.kr (8.8.8H2/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA10097 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:44:23 +0900 (KST) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:46:19 +0900 From: Young Lee Subject: Is Itsy project finished? If not, do you know any email address? Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <026801bf34ef$f48a84d0$b6a5f88f@hakim> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6401 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0265_01BF353B.645221B0" Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6400 X-Priority: 3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0265_01BF353B.645221B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Is Itsy project finished? If not, do you know any email address related to the Itsy project=20 or email address of persons involved in that project? It seems that the project is on-going since there was a notice of recent = meeting result. However, release of linux was Sep. 1998 more than 1 year ago. I'd like to see more recent release. With regards, Young Lee ymlee@core.kaist.ac.kr ------=_NextPart_000_0265_01BF353B.645221B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
Is Itsy project finished?
If not, do you know any email address = related to=20 the Itsy project
or email address of persons involved in = that=20 project?
 
It seems that the project is on-going = since there=20 was a notice of recent meeting result.
However, release of linux was Sep. 1998 = more than 1=20 year ago.
I'd like to see more recent = release.
 
With regards,
Young Lee
ymlee@core.kaist.ac.kr<= /DIV>
 
------=_NextPart_000_0265_01BF353B.645221B0-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Nov 22 16:13:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA03496; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:13:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JIN785WTBE90N648@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:13:33 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA19264; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16841; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:08:52 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA22314; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA22335; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26136; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:08:11 -0800 Received: from DECsy.decsy.ru (decsy.decsy.ru [193.233.209.50]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA14595 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from wint (wint.decsy.ru [193.233.209.54]) by DECsy.decsy.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06134; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:45:44 +0300 (Moscow) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:02:25 +0300 From: Sergey Medvedev Subject: Re: About SA1110 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Hiroshi Ishii Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <012101bf34fa$9a9eccf0$80d1e9c1@wint.decsy.ru> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail2.digital.com id HAA14595 X-Priority: 3 Dear Hiroshi Ishii, Colleague. Will you be so kind to find out from your company (Funai Electric?) , Where (from what person) they have got SA1110 chips? We have rung round all US Intel distributors (Arrow, Avnet, Wyle, Pioneer...) Nobody has any SA1110 chips in a warehouse... It seems that no one of Intel Distributors (as well as Intel Support team= ) can sell a several StrongARM SA1110 chips with reasonable (up to 4 week) Lead Time. ;( Recently we have developed some SA1110 based board (like Itsy): - SA1100, LCD ... - up to 64MB SDRAM (256 Mbit chip), up to 16 MB Itel Flash - Altera APEX 20k100 FPGA - 2xPCMCIA - & Linux developers Surprise ;) And now we are ready to work with Linux on it, but our open project is frozen ;( Thanks Sergey Medvedev Applied Information Technologies Insitute BTW we have experience of SA1100/Linux work on our first SA1100 based boa= rd, and it works stably enough... -----Original Message----- From: Hiroshi Ishii To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Date: 22 =ED=EE=FF=E1=F0=FF 1999 =E3. 6:22 Subject: About SA1110 >Hi! > >I'm trying to work Linux on SA1110. >I think same architecture SA1110 and SA1100. >So, nothing to do about it. > >Does anyone already working it? > > >---- >++ Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD ++ >++ Hiroshi Ishii ++ > > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Nov 22 16:33:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA03602; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:33:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JIN7XABV0494E1OK@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:33:47 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA19234; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:30:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20887; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:30:55 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA22376; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:30:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA22348; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:30:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05519; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:30:43 -0800 Received: from NT_SERVER.flatpanels.com (flatpanels.com [207.196.69.66]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA19445 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:30:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by NT_SERVER.flatpanels.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BF34D5.0C3F32D0@NT_SERVER.flatpanels.com>; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:33:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:33:41 -0500 From: "Baik, Jonghyeon" Subject: RE: About SA1110 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Sergey Medvedev'" , "'Hiroshi Ishii'" Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Precedence: bulk Dear Sergey I'm John Baik from Applied data systems. We have several ES(Enginerring Sample) SA1110 from Intel. We already made a demo board(didn't decide name yet). We already ported Angel. I'm gonna port Windows CE at first. Thanks ********************************************************************* Jonghyeon Baik email:jbaik@flatpanels.com Sr. S/W Engineer phone: 301- 490-4007 x15 Applied Data Systems fax: 301-490-4582 9140 -A Guilford Road http://www.flatpanels.com Columbia, MD 21046 ********************************************************************* >-----Original Message----- >From: Sergey Medvedev [SMTP:sm@decsy.ru] >Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 10:02 AM >To: Hiroshi Ishii >Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com >Subject: Re: About SA1110 > >Dear Hiroshi Ishii, Colleague. > >Will you be so kind to find out from your company (Funai Electric?) , >Where (from what person) they have got SA1110 chips? > >We have rung round all US Intel distributors (Arrow, Avnet, Wyle, >Pioneer...) >Nobody has any SA1110 chips in a warehouse... >It seems that no one of Intel Distributors (as well as Intel Support team) >can sell a several StrongARM SA1110 chips with reasonable (up to 4 week) >Lead Time. ;( > >Recently we have developed some SA1110 based board (like Itsy): >- SA1100, LCD ... >- up to 64MB SDRAM (256 Mbit chip), up to 16 MB Itel Flash >- Altera APEX 20k100 FPGA >- 2xPCMCIA >- & Linux developers Surprise ;) > >And now we are ready to work with Linux on it, but our open project is >frozen ;( > >Thanks >Sergey Medvedev >Applied Information Technologies Insitute > >BTW we have experience of SA1100/Linux work on our first SA1100 based board, >and it works stably enough... > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Hiroshi Ishii >To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com >Date: 22 iiya?y 1999 a. 6:22 >Subject: About SA1110 > > >>Hi! >> >>I'm trying to work Linux on SA1110. >>I think same architecture SA1110 and SA1100. >>So, nothing to do about it. >> >>Does anyone already working it? >> >> >>---- >>++ Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD ++ >>++ Hiroshi Ishii ++ >> >> >> From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Nov 22 18:14:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA04130; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:14:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JINBFJEFPE90N64Q@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:13:58 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id JAA07765; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:09:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10885; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:09:19 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA22667; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:08:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA22580; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05831; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:08:36 -0800 Received: from DECsy.decsy.ru (decsy.decsy.ru [193.233.209.50]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id JAA05390 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:07:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from wint (wint.decsy.ru [193.233.209.54]) by DECsy.decsy.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA06888; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:46:56 +0300 (Moscow) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:03:37 +0300 From: Sergey Medvedev Subject: Fw: About SA1110 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "Baik, Jonghyeon" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <017f01bf350b$863732a0$80d1e9c1@wint.decsy.ru> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Priority: 3 Dear Baik I am glad for you and your company. >We already ported Angel It is the really large success... BTW Baik, can you answer on some additional questions? Can you describe your demo board In detail? Is there any differences with this one: http://www.flatpanels.com/GraphicsClient.html? What ~prices (and when) it will be accessible for the order? It is very important for me and a Linux-community, I think... -----Original Message----- From: Baik, Jonghyeon Subject: RE: About SA1110 ... >We have several ES(Enginerring Sample) SA1110 from Intel. Can you give me E-mail (Phone or Fax) of this sales (Enginerring Support) person at Intel Co.? Thanks Sergey Medvedev Applied Information Technologies Institute From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Nov 23 01:11:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id BAA05371; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:11:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JINQ0P8DDK90N6FT@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:11:06 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id QAA12617; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:08:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30005; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:08:33 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA23606; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:07:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA23594; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:07:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13020; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:07:38 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id QAA11566 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:07:35 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:04:53 +1100 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:04:52 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Re: About SA1110 In-reply-to: <012101bf34fa$9a9eccf0$80d1e9c1@wint.decsy.ru> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Sergey Medvedev Cc: Hiroshi Ishii , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Precedence: bulk > We have rung round all US Intel distributors (Arrow, Avnet, Wyle, > Pioneer...) > Nobody has any SA1110 chips in a warehouse... > It seems that no one of Intel Distributors (as well as Intel Support team= ) > can sell a several StrongARM SA1110 chips with reasonable (up to 4 week) > Lead Time. ;( =09I've asked about this before and have had a few people mention they can get supplies. I know of at least one group that is developing (using intel engineering samples) and another claimed supply. =09Should I post these contacts to the list or just privately (ie is anyone else interested in them?) =09Cheers Adam >=20 > Recently we have developed some SA1110 based board (like Itsy): > - SA1100, LCD ... > - up to 64MB SDRAM (256 Mbit chip), up to 16 MB Itel Flash > - Altera APEX 20k100 FPGA > - 2xPCMCIA > - & Linux developers Surprise ;) >=20 > And now we are ready to work with Linux on it, but our open project is > frozen ;( >=20 > Thanks > Sergey Medvedev > Applied Information Technologies Insitute >=20 > BTW we have experience of SA1100/Linux work on our first SA1100 based boa= rd, > and it works stably enough... >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Hiroshi Ishii > To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > Date: 22 =ED=EE=FF=E1=F0=FF 1999 =E3. 6:22 > Subject: About SA1110 >=20 >=20 > >Hi! > > > >I'm trying to work Linux on SA1110. > >I think same architecture SA1110 and SA1100. > >So, nothing to do about it. > > > >Does anyone already working it? > > > > > >---- > >++ Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD ++ > >++ Hiroshi Ishii ++ > > > > > > >=20 From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Nov 23 01:40:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id BAA05428; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:40:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JINR1PLPMY94E2DW@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:40:57 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id QAA15035; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32196; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:38:20 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA23707; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA23659; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11820; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:37:59 -0800 Received: from core.kaist.ac.kr (coregate.kaist.ac.kr [143.248.147.118]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id QAA13640 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from hakim (hakim.kaist.ac.kr [143.248.165.182]) by core.kaist.ac.kr (8.8.8H2/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA10902 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 09:33:45 +0900 (KST) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 09:35:44 +0900 From: Young Lee Subject: VID/PID of SA1100 UDC Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <046201bf354a$ad6b36c0$b6a5f88f@hakim> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6401 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_045F_01BF3596.1D3A4DB0" Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6400 X-Priority: 3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_045F_01BF3596.1D3A4DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Is there anyone who knows USB VID/PID of SA1100(UDC)? If any, please let me know. Y.M.Lee ymlee@core.kaist.ac.kr ------=_NextPart_000_045F_01BF3596.1D3A4DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
Is there anyone who knows USB VID/PID = of=20 SA1100(UDC)?
If any, please let me = know.
 
Y.M.Lee
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------=_NextPart_000_045F_01BF3596.1D3A4DB0-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Nov 23 10:54:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA07515; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:54:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JIOADIBX6G94E3XO@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:54:06 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA24925; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:49:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28264; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:49:19 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA25141; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:47:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA25149; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:47:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16804; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:47:14 -0800 Received: from DECsy.decsy.ru (decsy.decsy.ru [193.233.209.50]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id BAA14034 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from wint (wint.decsy.ru [193.233.209.54]) by DECsy.decsy.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA07482; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:24:25 +0300 (Moscow) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:41:17 +0300 From: Sergey Medvedev Subject: Re: About SA1110 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <019501bf3596$e9daa450$80d1e9c1@wint.decsy.ru> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Priority: 3 Dear Adam This information will be very interesting for us. To get SA1110 samples still large problem. ;( We have decided to evaluate SA1110 because SA1100 has weak (buggy ?) USB support... We hope, that Intel have corrected these defects in the new version of SA1110. Thanks Sergey Medvedev .... >> It seems that no one of Intel Distributors (as well as Intel Support team) >> can sell a several StrongARM SA1110 chips with reasonable (up to 4 week) >> Lead Time. ;( > > I've asked about this before and have had a few people mention >they can get supplies. I know of at least one group that is developing >(using intel engineering samples) and another claimed supply. > > Should I post these contacts to the list or just privately (ie is >anyone else interested in them?) > > Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Nov 23 11:03:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA07609; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:03:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JIOAOT4MX694E47L@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:03:13 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA21332; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:58:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21250; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:58:52 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA25082; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA25218; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:58:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11592; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:58:41 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA14768 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:58:39 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:56:18 +1100 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:56:18 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Re: About SA1110 In-reply-to: <019501bf3596$e9daa450$80d1e9c1@wint.decsy.ru> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Sergey Medvedev Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Sergey Medvedev wrote: > Dear Adam > > This information will be very interesting for us. > To get SA1110 samples still large problem. ;( One of them (with the eng samples) was the guys at flatpanel who posted already. The other I'll forward you in a private mail. > > We have decided to evaluate SA1110 because > SA1100 has weak (buggy ?) USB support... This is supposed to have been fixed in the latest SA-1100 silicon revisions so I'd expect its fixed in the SA-1110. > > We hope, that Intel have corrected these defects in the new version of > SA1110. Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Nov 24 11:05:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from TUDEDU.ET.TUDelft.NL by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA15575; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:05:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JIPP1SMKOG90N79H@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:05:20 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA08769; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 01:56:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03727; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 01:56:36 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA29105; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 01:51:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA28665; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 01:51:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07561; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 01:51:07 -0800 Received: from eising.k-net.dk (eising.k-net.dtu.dk [130.225.71.227]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA06512 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 01:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17241 invoked from network); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:51:20 +0000 Received: from obelix.vkr.k-net.dk (192.38.209.3) by eising.k-net.dk with SMTP; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:51:20 +0000 Received: by obelix.vkr.k-net.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:50:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:50:38 +0100 From: Anders Frederiksen Subject: dram AND sram SA1110 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com '" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk I'm looking into the SA1100... And the memory-interface puzzels me! The SA1100 developer's manual states that mixed DRAM and SRAM systems is not possible because the nCas is used as byteselect. But since the SRAM must be full 32bit wide anyway, the nOE, nWE and the nCS should be sufficient to control the SRAM? So what's stopping me from making a mixed RAM system? Any advice greatly appreciated! Anders Frederiksen From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Nov 24 11:51:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedv.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA15987; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:51:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JIPQO0FGLQ90N79H@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:51:33 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA13346; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09194; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:43:01 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA29062; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:42:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA29268; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23920; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:42:38 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA13941 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:42:37 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:42:04 +1100 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:41:51 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Re: dram AND sram SA1110 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Anders Frederiksen Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com '" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Anders Frederiksen wrote: > I'm looking into the SA1100... And the memory-interface puzzels me! > > The SA1100 developer's manual states that mixed DRAM and SRAM systems is > not possible because the nCas is used as byteselect. But since the SRAM > must be full 32bit wide anyway, the nOE, nWE and the nCS should be > sufficient to control the SRAM? You can mix DRAM with SRAM but you can only do word accesses to the SRAM. This means you can only use it for very specific memory accesses (ie no byte or half-word accesses). Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Nov 26 11:42:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA00884; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:42:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JISIXOTO5690N82U@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:42:36 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA19808; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16796; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:38:51 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA04165; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA04078; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24440; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:35:30 -0800 Received: from orange.zav.starlab.net (extsrv.starlab.net [195.171.37.194]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id CAA28144 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:35:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from downtown.ett.starlab.net (root@[212.8.177.17]) by orange.zav.starlab.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA00810 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:35:53 +0100 Received: from wonderland.ett.starlab.net (wonderland.ett.starlab.net [212.8.177.19]) by downtown.ett.starlab.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA01949 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:35:25 +0100 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:35:25 +0100 (CET) From: Ivo Clarysse Subject: MMU weirdness Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: soggie@wonderland.ett.starlab.net To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm trying to get Linux up and running on our own hardware platform (similar in physical memory layout to Brutus, but with 4x16MB DRAM instead of 4x4MB). I'm having some trouble with the MMU, though. The kernel starts up correctly (zImage in 0xC0008000). It doesn't seem to perform setup_io_pagetables() correctly, though. I'm making my port on the basis of 2.2.12-rmk1-np13, and the http://www.empeg.mars.org/devel/files/arm-linux-toolchain.i386.tar.gz toolchain. If I insert the following in linux/include/asm-arm/proc-armv/mm-init.h : #define BIT24 0x01000000 #define BIT25 0x02000000 #define BIT26 0x04000000 #define BIT27 0x08000000 setup_pagetables(unsigned long start_mem, unsigned long end_mem) { unsigned long address = 0; volatile unsigned long *raw_gpsr = (unsigned long *)0x90040008; volatile unsigned long *raw_gpcr = (unsigned long *)0x9004000c; volatile unsigned long *mmu_gpsr = (unsigned long *)0xfa040008; volatile unsigned long *mmu_gpcr = (unsigned long *)0xfa04000c; [...] /* free_init_section(address) */ ; [...] start_mem = setup_io_pagetables(start_mem); [...] *raw_gpsr=BIT26; /* Set LED2 */ *mmu_gpsr=BIT25; /* Set LED1 */ *mmu_gpsr=BIT24; /* Set LED0 */ return start_mem; } GPIOs 24 to 27 are connected to LEDs, for debugging. I compiled with CONFIG_DEBUG_LL, so I/O at 0x8xxx xxxx and 0x9xxx xxxx is already mapped in head-armv.S; to facilitate debugging, I furthermore commented out the calls to free_init_section in setup_pagetables, so that this mapping would still exist at the end of setup_pagetables. What happens at the end of my modified setup_pagetables is that LED2 goes on (using the direct mapping at 0x9000 xxxx), but LEDs 0 & 1 (using the mapping at 0xfa00 xxxx) don't go on. Am I correct in assuming that LEDs 0 & 1 should also go on with this code ? (The GPDR has already been correctly set by the bootloader.) Ivo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ivo Clarysse TEL +32-2-7400788 FAX +32-2-7429654 Research Scientist Starlab - http://www.starlab.org/ PGP ID: 0x50154325 // A0A0 EDBC 37B2 C574 CC4D F1F0 FF94 04B9 5015 4325 From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Nov 26 11:58:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedv.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA01002; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:58:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JISJGMXAV294EBEA@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:57:59 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA31261; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:54:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12973; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:54:13 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA04235; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:54:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA04182; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:54:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11452; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:54:00 -0800 Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id CAA31299 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id TAA25001 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:53:57 +0900 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:53:58 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii Subject: MMU trable Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100 mailng list Message-id: <383E66C632.EE82HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Hello. I'm trying to port to SA-1110, and I have trouble. In arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.S mcr p15, 0, r0, c1, c0 @ Enable MMU & caches. In 3 instructions When enable MMU, system halt. So, can't 'M' bit enable. What trouble in it? silicon bugs? Can MMU on later(not on this stage)? Regards; ---- ++ Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD ++ ++ Hiroshi Ishii ++ From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Nov 26 12:21:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id MAA01157; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:21:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JISKARHPZU90N82U@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:21:23 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id DAA01523; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 03:18:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12376; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 03:18:27 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA04298; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 03:18:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA04275; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 03:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31492; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 03:17:59 -0800 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id DAA31368 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 03:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.0.0.67] (helo=zebra.labs.futuretv.com) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11rJPD-00017C-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:19:11 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=mail) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11rJO0-0008E6-00; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:17:56 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11rJO0-0004AA-00; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:17:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:17:56 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: MMU trable In-reply-to: Message from Hiroshi Ishii "of Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:53:58 +0900." <383E66C632.EE82HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Hiroshi Ishii Cc: sa1100 mailng list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <383E66C632.EE82HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> >When enable MMU, system halt. So, can't 'M' bit enable. >What trouble in it? silicon bugs? Chances are that your page tables are not set up correctly. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Nov 26 16:25:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA02872; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 16:25:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JISSSYA4UC94EDAX@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 16:25:13 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA07801; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 07:20:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18809; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 07:20:27 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA04999; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 07:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA04957; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 07:19:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03189; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 07:19:32 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.IN-ADDR.ARPA [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA07903 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 07:19:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 10:13:04 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: MMU weirdness In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Ivo Clarysse Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Maybe you could try 2.2.12-rmk1-np12 instead of np13. It seems that the later have some problem so far. Since I don't have access to SA1100 hardware at the moment, I haven't been able to fix np13. Also those patches are known to have problems with gcc-2.95.x. Be sure you use egcs-1.1.x. Otherwise you'll have to patch the source to be gcc-2.95 compatible (see Philip Blundell patches). On Fri, 26 Nov 1999, Ivo Clarysse wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to get Linux up and running on our own hardware platform > (similar in physical memory layout to Brutus, but with 4x16MB DRAM > instead of 4x4MB). I'm having some trouble with the MMU, though. > > The kernel starts up correctly (zImage in 0xC0008000). It doesn't > seem to perform setup_io_pagetables() correctly, though. > > I'm making my port on the basis of 2.2.12-rmk1-np13, and the > http://www.empeg.mars.org/devel/files/arm-linux-toolchain.i386.tar.gz > toolchain. > > If I insert the following in linux/include/asm-arm/proc-armv/mm-init.h : > > #define BIT24 0x01000000 > #define BIT25 0x02000000 > #define BIT26 0x04000000 > #define BIT27 0x08000000 > setup_pagetables(unsigned long start_mem, unsigned long end_mem) > { > unsigned long address = 0; > volatile unsigned long *raw_gpsr = (unsigned long *)0x90040008; > volatile unsigned long *raw_gpcr = (unsigned long *)0x9004000c; > volatile unsigned long *mmu_gpsr = (unsigned long *)0xfa040008; > volatile unsigned long *mmu_gpcr = (unsigned long *)0xfa04000c; > [...] > /* free_init_section(address) */ ; > [...] > > start_mem = setup_io_pagetables(start_mem); > [...] > *raw_gpsr=BIT26; /* Set LED2 */ > *mmu_gpsr=BIT25; /* Set LED1 */ > *mmu_gpsr=BIT24; /* Set LED0 */ > return start_mem; > } > > GPIOs 24 to 27 are connected to LEDs, for debugging. > > I compiled with CONFIG_DEBUG_LL, so I/O at 0x8xxx xxxx and 0x9xxx xxxx > is already mapped in head-armv.S; to facilitate debugging, I furthermore > commented out the calls to free_init_section in setup_pagetables, so that > this mapping would still exist at the end of setup_pagetables. > > What happens at the end of my modified setup_pagetables is that LED2 > goes on (using the direct mapping at 0x9000 xxxx), but LEDs 0 & 1 > (using the mapping at 0xfa00 xxxx) don't go on. Am I correct in > assuming that LEDs 0 & 1 should also go on with this code ? > > (The GPDR has already been correctly set by the bootloader.) > > > Ivo. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ivo Clarysse TEL +32-2-7400788 FAX +32-2-7429654 > Research Scientist Starlab - http://www.starlab.org/ > PGP ID: 0x50154325 // A0A0 EDBC 37B2 C574 CC4D F1F0 FF94 04B9 5015 4325 > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Nov 30 21:19:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA04191; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 21:19:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JIYO9123VE94EL3T@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 21:19:30 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id MAA27072; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:13:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15441; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:12:52 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA21524; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:09:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA21555; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:09:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10229; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:09:04 -0800 Received: from msexch01.diebold.com (eliot.diebold.com [204.151.249.21]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id MAA19564 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:09:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by msexch01.diebold.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:08:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:08:02 -0500 From: "Plentovich, Dave" Subject: communicating with Brutus Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hello, We just purchased the Brutus Evaluation Platform and I am having trouble communicating using the angelboot utility. The error I get is "Error: Received wrong # bytes (-19816) when expecting packet.." using angleboot.tgz from (ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico). I get "Error: Received wrong # bytes (-19800) when expecting packet.." using angleboot.tar.gz (in linux-distrib.tar.gz) from (http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html). The Brutus board came with Angel v1.2 in ROM. Has anyone seen this error? Is there a newer angelboot utility for Angel v1.2? (Am I missing something very obvious???) Best regards, David Plentovich DIEBOLD Self-Service Systems, Dept. 9-53-3 (330)490-5092, FAX(330)490-4508, plentod@diebold.com 5995 Mayfair Road, North Canton, OH, 44720, USA From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Nov 30 23:40:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA04833; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:40:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JIYT6BDQPW90NAWI@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:40:38 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA16025; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:35:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16983; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:35:38 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA21838; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA21857; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:35:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23728; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:35:07 -0800 Received: from ragnarok.preston.cmst.csiro.au (ragnarok.mlb.dmt.csiro.au [138.194.112.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA19959 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:35:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1963 invoked by alias); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:33:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 1957 invoked from network); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:33:57 +0000 Received: from gefjon.mlb.dmt.csiro.au (HELO gefjon) (138.194.112.53) by ragnarok.mlb.dmt.csiro.au with SMTP; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:33:57 +0000 Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 09:33:57 +1100 From: Patrick Kearney Subject: Brutus Board Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <19991130223357.1962.qmail@ragnarok.preston.cmst.csiro.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (patchlevel 15 12-Feb-99) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk Is anyone interested in purchasing a Brutus evaluation board? We have one for sale to the highest bidder. We had intended using the SA1100 on a series of boards for high-speed image processing to perform housekeeping functions. We are now using the MPC8260 so that we no longer have use for the Brutus board. Patrick Kearney CSIRO CMST Patrick.Kearney@cmst.csiro.au From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Dec 2 04:57:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA12846; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 04:57:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJ0IJD250A94EMQA@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 04:57:23 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id TAA26463; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 19:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20750; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 19:50:15 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA26480; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 19:48:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA26555; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 19:48:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27407; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 19:48:09 -0800 Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id TAA00584 for ; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 19:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id MAA24714 for ; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 12:48:04 +0900 Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 12:48:04 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii Subject: About linux-2.3.24-rmk1-np1 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <3845EBF414.DFD1HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Hi, all Does anyone use linux-2.3.24-rmk1-np1? If so, how status? Working stability? Thanks, ---- ++ Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD ++ ++ Hiroshi Ishii ++ From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Dec 2 16:26:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA17304; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:26:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJ16LWDS6Y94ENWL@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:26:42 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA28452; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 07:22:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21153; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 07:22:18 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA28410; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 07:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA28461; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 07:21:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07246; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 07:21:21 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.IN-ADDR.ARPA [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA26736 for ; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 07:21:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 10:10:52 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: About linux-2.3.24-rmk1-np1 In-reply-to: <3845EBF414.DFD1HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Hiroshi Ishii Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Since I made the patch I used it, but was probably the only one. Stability is quite questionnable, and I don't know yet if it's related to SA1100 specifics or the generic kernel. At the moment, the most stable version is 2.2.12-rmk1-np12 AFAIK. On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Hiroshi Ishii wrote: > Hi, all > > Does anyone use linux-2.3.24-rmk1-np1? > If so, how status? Working stability? > > Thanks, > > ---- > ++ Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD ++ > ++ Hiroshi Ishii ++ > > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Dec 2 22:28:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA19347; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 22:28:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJ1J8C6N3I94EPC9@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 22:28:19 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id NAA10111; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 13:23:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05782; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 13:22:08 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA29483; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 13:19:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA29481; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 13:19:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16465; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 13:19:43 -0800 Received: from baucis.sc.intel.com (baucis.sc.intel.com [143.183.152.22]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id NAA10094 for ; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 13:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from SMTP (fmsmsxvs03-1.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.203]) by baucis.sc.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.11 1999/11/10 17:27:15 spurcell Exp $) with SMTP id NAA19160 for ; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 13:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from fmsmsx19.fm.intel.com ([132.233.48.19]) by 132.233.48.203 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 21:19:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fmsmsx19.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 13:19:27 -0800 Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 13:19:25 -0800 From: "Rao, Ram R" Subject: a question about modifying the itsy source code Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hi, This question is for the people who wrote the drivers for the Itsy. I was planning on using Itsy's touchscreen driver as a starting point for a touchscreen driver for the Brutus board. One problem that I am unclear about is that Itsy's touchscreen driver has a copyright notice at the top. Am I still free to modify this and place it somewhere on the net for others to use? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Ram Rao From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Dec 6 10:19:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from TUDEDU.ET.TUDelft.NL by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA02922; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:19:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJ6EQV19KO94E6QT@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:13:41 +0100 Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #35209) with ESMTP id <0FM600CAZQ7KON@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 22:54:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id NAA15835; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:48:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10034; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:48:34 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA00808; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA00840; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:44:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08094; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:44:10 -0800 Received: from blazie.com (blazie.com [207.97.93.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id NAA13395 for ; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:44:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blazie.com (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA00479 for ; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 16:42:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 16:42:18 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Blazie Subject: non-elf binary problem In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk For some reason I am unable to execute non-elf binaries on the SA1100 platform I'm working on. I have a.out and misc binary capability compiled into the kernel, but I always get the following seg fault: ./getty getty: memory violation at pc=0x00c00470, lr=0xa000e2f4 (bad address=0x00c00470, code 3) pc : [<00c00470>] lr : [] sp : 03fffec4 ip : fffffffe fp : 03ffff30 r10: 00000000 r9 : 00000000 r8 : 00000000 r7 : 00000000 r6 : 00000001 r5 : 03ffff50 r4 : 03ffff7c r3 : 00000002 r2 : 00000047 r1 : 0000e220 r0 : 03fffecc Flags: NzCv IRQs on FIQs on Mode USER_26 Segment user Control: C03C117D Table: C03C117D DAC: 00000015 Function entered at [<0000e288>] from [<00008028>] r6 = 00000000 r5 = 00000000 r4 = 00000000 Segmentation fault bash# ELF binaries run just fine, and the binaries in question are statically linked. Any ideas? Thanks, Chris From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Dec 6 11:31:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA05335; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 11:31:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJ6GR1B8ZA90NE1S@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 11:11:20 +0100 Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #35209) with ESMTP id <0FMA00KGQEVG65@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Sun, 05 Dec 1999 22:40:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id NAA27550; Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30347; Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:34:30 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA08689; Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA08663; Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:32:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24634; Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:32:08 -0800 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id NAA30020 for ; Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11uiRC-0000ub-00; Sun, 05 Dec 1999 20:39:18 +0000 Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 20:39:18 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: non-elf binary problem In-reply-to: Message from Chris Blazie "of Fri, 03 Dec 1999 16:42:18 EST." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Chris Blazie Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: >getty: memory violation at pc=0x00c00470, lr=0xa000e2f4 (bad address=0x00c0047 >0, code 3) That address looks like a shared library location. Are you sure you are using a static binary? Can you try the same binary on another ARM platform with the same kernel? > ELF binaries run just fine, and the binaries in question are >statically linked. Any ideas? Out of interest, why do you want to do this? I can't think of any advantages of a.out binaries over ELF these days. I have a feeling that libc4 also has some Y2K issues so you may be in trouble again in a few weeks. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Dec 6 17:01:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA08338; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:01:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJ6SZTRQEK90NBZD@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:01:48 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA23476; Mon, 06 Dec 1999 07:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10090; Mon, 06 Dec 1999 07:56:19 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA11795; Mon, 06 Dec 1999 07:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA11692; Mon, 06 Dec 1999 07:55:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17970; Mon, 06 Dec 1999 07:55:04 -0800 Received: from blazie.com (blazie.com [207.97.93.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA25572 for ; Mon, 06 Dec 1999 07:55:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blazie.com (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA15751; Mon, 06 Dec 1999 10:53:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 10:53:45 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Blazie Subject: Re: non-elf binary problem In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip Blundell Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk > >getty: memory violation at pc=0x00c00470, lr=0xa000e2f4 (bad address=0x00c0047 > >0, code 3) > > That address looks like a shared library location. Are you sure you are using > a static binary? It is static according to ldd. I didn't compile it myself, however. The file command just reports "getty: data". All of the binaries in question run fine on my netwinder (albeit with an older kernel). > Out of interest, why do you want to do this? I can't think of any No good reason, to be honest, other than the fact that it's a nuisance and I do not have the login and getty binaries compiled as ELF. If anyone can tell me where to find elf distributions of these binaries or suitable ARM patches I'd be glad to switch and stop wasting time with a.out. I can't seem to find either, though, and the current getty_ps package won't compile for me under ARM (presumably for lack of a proper patch). I checked arm.linux.org and netwinder.org. Am I overlooking them? Thanks, Chris From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Dec 7 10:57:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA12526; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 10:57:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJ7UKO2TWI94ET1R@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 10:57:35 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA13819; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 01:54:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23460; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 01:54:44 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA14383; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 01:51:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA14641; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 01:51:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17508; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 01:51:45 -0800 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id BAA04666 for ; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 01:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.0.0.67] (helo=zebra.labs.futuretv.com) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11vHIp-00051w-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 09:52:59 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11vHHb-0005XH-00; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 09:51:43 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain) by with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11vHHa-0003Wx-00; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 09:51:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 09:51:41 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: non-elf binary problem In-reply-to: Message from Chris Blazie "of Mon, 06 Dec 1999 10:53:45 EST." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Chris Blazie Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: >If anyone can tell me where to find elf distributions of these binaries or >suitable ARM patches I'd be glad to switch and stop wasting time with >a.out. I can't seem to find either, though, and the current getty_ps >package won't compile for me under ARM (presumably for lack of a proper >patch). I checked arm.linux.org and netwinder.org. Am I overlooking >them? You could try the Debian distribution. ftp://ftp.debian.org/dists/potato/main/ binary-arm or some such. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Dec 13 06:48:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA15458; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:48:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJFZLKW3ZU94FA7V@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:48:17 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id VAA18682; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:44:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09050; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:44:03 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA05097; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:41:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA05153; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:41:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11048; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:41:50 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable233.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.233]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id VAA21027 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02764 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:36:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:36:40 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Fun with 2.3.x Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Hi! I started to port SA1100 stuff to 2.3.x kernels. I already had diff-2.3.24 available, but the one that is actually getting right is diff-2.3.29-rmk1-np1 which is available now at the usual place. This has mainly support for nothing else than the serial port at the moment. I wanted to clean up the basic stuff first. Also the bootmem issue isn't still settled, so I included a quick fix to make things work on the SA1100. However it won't work if you have more than 2 banks with 4 MB ram or less for each bank (I commented out 2 of the 4 Brutus banks for this reason). This is a starting point for people interested in hacking on 2.3.x. But you should know quite well what you are doing i.e. this is far from being at the same completeness level as the 2.2.12 patch. Help is always welcome though! :-) Have fun! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Dec 13 11:13:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedv.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA16566; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:13:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJG8MXKS1M94F938@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:11:49 +0100 Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #35209) with ESMTP id <0FMO001E98HQWZ@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:49:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id AAA12678; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15647; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:43:54 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA05632; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:43:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA05647; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:43:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21355; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:43:32 -0800 Received: from adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.100.248.143]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id AAA02345 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from biff (biff [192.168.1.4]) by adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA22146 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:41:34 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:44:14 -0700 From: Ian Field Subject: irq0 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100 mailng list Reply-to: Ian Field Message-id: <000801bf453d$daac26a0$0401a8c0@casagrande.way> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <3854A96B24E.1DB2HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> X-Priority: 3 Hi all, while I was messing around with mounting disks (cf-card) in 2.2.12, I found that gpio0 as the disk interrupt wouldn't work, however if I patched across to GPIO1/IRQ1, it worked fine. Has someone looked into this, and the fix exists in a patch or in a later kernel version? Cheers, IAN From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Dec 13 09:11:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id JAA16036; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:11:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJG4LVMOLM90NHYP@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:11:13 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id AAA26123; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:08:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27475; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:08:45 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA09020; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:08:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA05512; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:08:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21692; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:08:17 -0800 Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id AAA24107 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:08:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id RAA21679 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:08:11 +0900 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:08:11 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii Subject: Re: Fun with 2.3.x In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100 mailng list Message-id: <3854A96B24E.1DB2HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk References: On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:36:40 -0500 (EST) Nicolas Pitre wrote: > Hi! > > I started to port SA1100 stuff to 2.3.x kernels. I already had > diff-2.3.24 available, but the one that is actually getting right is > diff-2.3.29-rmk1-np1 which is available now at the usual place. > Good job! I was testing, so I found one trouble. in arch/arm/kernel/setup.c meminfo.bank[i].start = mem_desc[i].phys_offset - PHYS_OFFSET; ^^^^^^^^^^^ -> meminfo.bank[i].start = mem_desc[i].phys_start - PHYS_OFFSET; ^^^^^^^^^^ Is that ok? ---- ++ Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD ++ ++ Hiroshi Ishii ++ From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Dec 13 15:16:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedv.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA18111; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:16:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJGHD0NM4C94F80U@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:16:45 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id GAA27825; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:11:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06981; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:11:28 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA06611; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:10:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA06607; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18979; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:10:39 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable233.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.233]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id GAA31568 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03015; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:05:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:05:17 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Fun with 2.3.x In-reply-to: <3854A96B24E.1DB2HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Hiroshi Ishii Cc: sa1100 mailng list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Hiroshi Ishii wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:36:40 -0500 (EST) > Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > I started to port SA1100 stuff to 2.3.x kernels. I already had > > diff-2.3.24 available, but the one that is actually getting right is > > diff-2.3.29-rmk1-np1 which is available now at the usual place. > > > > Good job! > > I was testing, so I found one trouble. > > in arch/arm/kernel/setup.c > > meminfo.bank[i].start = mem_desc[i].phys_offset - PHYS_OFFSET; > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > -> > > meminfo.bank[i].start = mem_desc[i].phys_start - PHYS_OFFSET; > ^^^^^^^^^^ > Is that ok? Oops! Yes, that's OK. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Dec 14 03:48:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id DAA21213; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 03:48:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJH7MI5H6S90NHZ9@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 03:48:48 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id SAA24995; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23765; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:41:10 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA08735; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:40:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA08753; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29236; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:40:11 -0800 Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id SAA26343 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:40:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id LAA26299; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:39:59 +0900 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:39:58 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii Subject: Re: Fun with 2.3.x In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: sa1100 mailng list Message-id: <3855ADFEAA.D468HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk References: On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:36:40 -0500 (EST) Nicolas Philtre wrote: > Hi! > > I started to port SA1100 stuff to 2.3.x kernels. I already had > diff-2.3.24 available, but the one that is actually getting right is > diff-2.3.29-rmk1-np1 which is available now at the usual place. > And, I had more trouble. I try to work with ramdisk, showing this message. Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 pgd = c0004000 *pgd = c0169001, *pmd = c0169001, *pte = c000008b, *ppte = c000000a Internal error: Oops: 0 CPU: 0 pc : [] lr : [] sp : c01b7228 ip : 00000000 fp : c01b7234 r10: c00085d8 r9 : c0105124 r8 : c01b6000 r7 : c01b7260 r6 : c0df97a0 r5 : 00000000 r4 : 00000000 r3 : 60000093 r2 : 00000000 r1 : 00000000 r0 : 00000000 Flags: nZCv IRQs off FIQs on Mode SVC_32 Segment kernel Control: C000517F Table: C000517F DAC: 0000001D Process swapper (pid: 1, stackpage=c01b7000) Stack: c01b7200: c0039788 c00188 88 c01b7220: 60000093 ffffffff c01b728c c01b7238 c0039788 c0018870 01234567 c01b60 00 c01b7240: 00000000 00000000 c01b7260 00000000 01234567 c01b6000 00000000 00000 ........... [snip] What kind trouble? ---- ++ Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD ++ ++ Hiroshi Ishii ++ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Dec 14 05:00:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA21457; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 05:00:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJHA5BMXEK90NHM1@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 05:00:28 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id TAA01740; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:55:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13131; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:55:32 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA09037; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA08955; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:55:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02511; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:55:11 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable233.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.233]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id TAA29167 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05434; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:49:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:49:53 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Fun with 2.3.x In-reply-to: <3855ADFEAA.D468HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Hiroshi Ishii Cc: sa1100 mailng list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Hiroshi Ishii wrote: > > And, I had more trouble. > > I try to work with ramdisk, showing this message. > > Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 > pgd = c0004000 > *pgd = c0169001, *pmd = c0169001, *pte = c000008b, *ppte = c000000a > Internal error: Oops: 0 > CPU: 0 > pc : [] lr : [] > ........... > [snip] > > What kind trouble? Don't know. You should look at the System.map file using the PC register value to tell in which function the problem occured. Otherwise nobody can tell from those addresses alone. Also the command: arm-linux-objdump -d -S vmlinux > out.asm will produce a disassembled version interleaved with source code if the kernel has been compiled with CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=y. This disassembled kernel along with the register dump you get is the only way to figure out what is the problem. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Dec 13 12:23:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id MAA17047; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:23:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJGBB4UJII90NHZT@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:23:27 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id DAA13478; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 03:20:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10687; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 03:20:19 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA06134; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 03:19:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA06086; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 03:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19606; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 03:19:50 -0800 Received: from mailboy.huawei.com.cn ([202.96.135.134]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id DAA18651 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 03:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from w15060 ([10.11.48.31]) by mailboy.huawei.com.cn (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA21072 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:02:04 +0800 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:06:27 +0800 From: Jun Wu Subject: Novice Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <000501bf4612$80ef8640$1f300b0a@w15060.huawei.com.cn> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Priority: 3 Hello all, I'm a novice of ARM linux and brutus board. Can I use win98 based host to port ARM linux to the brutus board? If yes, what should I do step by step? Best regards Jun From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Dec 15 11:48:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA01109; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:48:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJJ2OP4SDU90NIDT@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:48:48 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA16988; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05527; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:45:31 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA14189; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:43:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA14156; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20978; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:42:56 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id CAA14715 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA01022; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:41:29 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:41:29 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: Novice In-reply-to: <000501bf4612$80ef8640$1f300b0a@w15060.huawei.com.cn> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: junw@sz.huawei.com.cn Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <199912151041.LAA01022@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:06:27 +0800, Jun Wu wrote: > I'm a novice of ARM linux and brutus board. > Can I use win98 based host to port ARM linux to the brutus board? > If yes, what should I do step by step? In theory: yes. In practice: no. In theory: Get yourself Cygnus Cygwin32 at sourceware.cygnus.com. This is a Unix compatible compile&build environment for Win 95/98/NT systems. Now get all the neccessary parts (kernel, binutils, gcc, glibc, patches) to build a complete win95-->arm-linux cross compiler toolchain. Compile and install everything and you're set. In practice: Cygwin32 is a very nice piece of software but from what I've read at the autoconf, automake and libtool mailinglists, it has some problems with the those tools. Given the fact that the parts of the cross compiler toolchain implicitly depend on some Unix features, I don't think it will compile out-of-the-box (although it would be an interesting excersise). To make life easier, you should really use a Linux box (or any other sane Unix machine) to setup a cross compiler toolchain. If that works, you can always try to get it working with Cygwin32. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Dec 15 11:57:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA01210; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:57:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJJ2ZRG8HE90NIDT@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:57:35 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA17654; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:55:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23703; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:55:28 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA14158; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA13849; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:55:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26937; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:55:17 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA17163 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:51:43 +1100 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:51:43 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Re: Novice In-reply-to: <199912151041.LAA01022@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Erik Mouw Cc: junw@sz.huawei.com.cn, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Erik Mouw wrote: > On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:06:27 +0800, Jun Wu wrote: > > I'm a novice of ARM linux and brutus board. > > Can I use win98 based host to port ARM linux to the brutus board? > > If yes, what should I do step by step? > > In theory: yes. In practice: no. > Just to add a comment here. One of the guys that did our current JTAG software also did our current boot-loader for PLEB, is an NT user (yuck but anyway). He has a really nice setup for ARM cross-compilation. While I don't know the details of how he went about it and the fact that he is a pretty experienced developer my point is that he did it and he has a really nice setup. If your still interested I can put you on to him or ask him how he setup his ARM GNU cross-compile toolchain. Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Dec 15 14:10:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA02305; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:10:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJJ7N49F6S90NJ76@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:10:53 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id FAA18510; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:08:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17529; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:08:10 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA14511; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:07:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA14490; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:07:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22264; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:07:41 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id FAA20782 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA02236; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:05:59 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:05:59 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: Novice In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: awiggins@cse.unsw.edu.au Cc: junw@sz.huawei.com.cn, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <199912151305.OAA02236@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:51:43 +1100 (EST), Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Erik Mouw wrote: > >> On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:06:27 +0800, Jun Wu wrote: >> > I'm a novice of ARM linux and brutus board. >> > Can I use win98 based host to port ARM linux to the brutus board? >> > If yes, what should I do step by step? >> >> In theory: yes. In practice: no. >> > Just to add a comment here. One of the guys that did our current > JTAG software also did our current boot-loader for PLEB, is an NT user > (yuck but anyway). He has a really nice setup for ARM cross-compilation. > While I don't know the details of how he went about it and the fact that > he is a pretty experienced developer my point is that he did it and he has > a really nice setup. If your still interested I can put you on to him or > ask him how he setup his ARM GNU cross-compile toolchain. I didn't say it was impossible, but given the fact that the original poster is a novice to ARM linux, he'd better stick to a platform that's known to work: Linux. If your toolchain breaks on Win98, you're on your own. BTW: does your JTAG software still need an external microcontroller? Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Dec 15 14:16:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA02350; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:16:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJJ7TZHPCS94FEFZ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:16:27 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id FAA18531; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31885; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:14:34 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA14630; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:14:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA14591; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14632; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:14:16 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id FAA14109 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 00:12:06 +1100 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 00:12:06 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Re: Novice In-reply-to: <199912151305.OAA02236@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Erik Mouw Cc: junw@sz.huawei.com.cn, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk > BTW: does your JTAG software still need an external microcontroller? Need is the wrong word ;) But he coded it in AVR assembler and the AVR takes commands from a dumb serial terminal. For a number of reasons when I get some spare time (read when PLEB boards are shipped and my micro-kernels fully functional and relitively bug free) I'm going to start writting JTAG stuff in C to go in our ARV JTAG programmers, on our boards themselves (so they can JTAG stuff like their own CPLDs), or on PCs with just a parallel port JTAG thing. I'll let you know when I get around to this. Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Dec 20 15:39:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: from TUDEDU.ET.TUDelft.NL by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA08886; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:39:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJQA42YONA90NM9I@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:37:30 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id GAA18634; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:31:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08895; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:31:42 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA24764; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA24891; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24194; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:29:17 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable233.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.233]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id GAA22441 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:29:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11809; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:24:21 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:24:21 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: About Arm Linux for Brutus SA-1100 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Eric_Liu@asus.com.tw Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Hi! Unfortunately, I've never worked with GUI on Brutus, and can't say much than some people had x window running on it. I CC'ed your message to the SA1100 Linux mailing list. You might find more info from people there. And... many contributions for Brutus support came from people on this list too! :-) On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 Eric_Liu@asus.com.tw wrote: > > Hello, I'v successfully followed the instructions of Intel website > to boot my Brutus board with linux(2.2.12). I think this is really > a great job done by you, right? It's really a incredible work!! > Now, I have a Brutus board with linux console mode login, and can > you tell me that what GUI window systems I can run on this small > LCD panel of Brutus board? I will be very appreciate if you can > give me any hint about this. > > > -- > Eric Liu, Eric_Liu@asus.com.tw > > > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Dec 21 05:05:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedv.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA12380; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 05:05:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJR2BNPAMS94FJOB@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 05:05:33 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id UAA11996; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23279; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:01:18 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA27072; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA27348; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06620; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:00:22 -0800 Received: from asustek.asus.com.tw (asustek.asus.com.tw [192.72.126.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id UAA00468 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:00:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from asustpe3.ASUS.COM.TW (bak.asus.com.tw [192.72.126.36]) by asustek.asus.com.tw (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03899; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:00:09 +0800 Received: by asustpe3.asus.com.tw with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:08:03 +0800 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:08:03 +0800 From: Eric_Liu@asus.com.tw Subject: Re: About Arm Linux for Brutus SA-1100 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG, Eric_Liu@asus.com.tw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="big5" Precedence: bulk Thanks, Anybody who has suggestion for me please CC a message to my mail-box, because I joined the mail-list just now and I'm anxiety about that I've missed any response for me. -- Eric_Liu@asus.com.tw -----Original mail----- Title: Re: About Arm Linux for Brutus SA-1100 Hi! Unfortunately, I've never worked with GUI on Brutus, and can't say much than some people had x window running on it. I CC'ed your message to the SA1100 Linux mailing list. You might find more info from people there. And... many contributions for Brutus support came from people on this list too! :-) From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Dec 22 11:06:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA19769; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:06:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJST87JX5E94FTGJ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:05:57 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA12969; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16254; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:01:41 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA32340; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:58:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA32233; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05356; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:58:55 -0800 Received: from orange.zav.starlab.net (extsrv.starlab.net [195.171.37.194]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id BAA12857 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from downtown.ett.starlab.net (root@[212.8.177.17]) by orange.zav.starlab.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA19203 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:59:18 +0100 Received: from wonderland.ett.starlab.net (wonderland.ett.starlab.net [212.8.177.19]) by downtown.ett.starlab.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA02032 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:58:50 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:58:49 +0100 (CET) From: Ivo Clarysse Subject: Bad mode in prefetch abort handler Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: soggie@wonderland.ett.starlab.net To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk We're having some problems locating a bug on our SA-1100 platform ('FEATHER'; http://foobar.starlab.net/~soggie/feather/). Our platform consists of a CPU board, and a daughterboard containing PCMCIA slots. Without the daughterboard, Linux (2.2.12-rmk1-np12) boots up correctly and works like a charm. However, if the PCMCIA daughterboard is attached (but not accessed from the kernel), it crashes during the kernel initialization (decompression of the kernel works fine). These crashes seem to happen rather randomly, but when we modified head-armv.S to NOT enable the data & instruction caches, the system consistently crashes with 'Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32', always during or the initialization of the SA1100 serial driver (though not always at the same instruction). A sample bootlog with the daughterboard attached: Linux version 2.2.12-rmk1-np12 (root@woodland.ett.starlab.net) (gcc version egc9NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp. Calibrating delay loop... 4.67 BogoMIPS Memory: 60080k/64M available (532k code, 20k reserved, 804k data, 4k init) POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Starting kswapd v 1.5 SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32 Vectors: 00000000: ef9f0000 ea0000a1 e59ff398 ea000093 ea000086 ea0000a9 ea000078 ea000 00000020: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000 Stubs: Stubs: 00000200: e59fd1a4 e24ee004 e58de000 e14fe000 e58de004 e3ced03f e38dd093 e169f 00000220: e20ee00f e28fd0b4 e79de10e e1b0f00e e59fd17c e24ee008 e58de000 e14fe 00000240: e58de004 e3ced03f e38dd093 e169f00d e20ee00f e28fdf41 e79de10e e1b0f 00000260: e59fd14c e24ee004 e58de000 e14fe000 e58de004 e3ced03f e38dd093 e169f 00000280: e21ee00f 059fe114 159fe114 e1b0f00e e59fd118 e58de000 e14fe000 e58de 000002a0: e3ced03f e38dd093 e169f00d e20ee00f e28fd068 e79de10e e1b0f00e e25ef 000002c0: eafffffe 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000 000002e0: c0009ea0 c0009c48 c0009c48 c0009d60 c0009c48 c0009c48 c0009c48 c0009 00000300: c0009c48 c0009c48 c0009c48 c0009c48 c0009c48 c0009c48 c0009c48 c0009 00000320: c0009f20 c0009c5c c0009c5c c0009de0 c0009c5c c0009c5c c0009c5c c0009 00000340: c0009c5c c0009c5c c0009c5c c0009c5c c0009c5c c0009c5c c0009c5c c0009 00000360: c0009e40 c0009c34 c0009c34 c0009d00 c0009c34 c0009c34 c0009c34 c0009 00000380: c0009c34 c0009c34 c0009c34 c0009c34 c0009c34 c0009c34 c0009c34 c0009 000003a0: c0009fa0 c0009c20 c000a0e0 c0090960 c009096c c0090978 00000000 00000 000003c0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000 000003e0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000 00000400: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000 00000420: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000 00000440: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000 00000460: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000 00000480: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000 000004a0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 Internal error: Oops: 0 CPU: 0 pc : [<00005bb0>] lr : [<00000001>] sp : c015fdd8 ip : 00000000 fp : c015fe44 r10: c0008204 r9 : 00000000 r8 : c0091de0 r7 : c00a7458 r6 : 00000001 r5 : 00000001 r4 : 00000001 r3 : 51eb851f r2 : 7fffffff r1 : 00000001 r0 : 00000005 Flags: nZCv IRQs on FIQs off Mode SVC_32 Segment kernel Control: C000417B Table: C000417B DAC: 0000001D Process swapper (pid: 1, stackpage=c015f000) Stack: c015fe00: 00000001 00005bb0 60000053 fffff c015fe20: 00000001 c00a74a0 c00a745c c00a7458 c0096120 00000000 c015fe60 c015f c015fe40: c001f83c c0015ad4 00000000 00000000 0000001a c015fe90 c015fe64 c000a c015fe60: c001f7b8 00000340 c015fe94 fa050000 c015fedc 00000001 c0018cf0 60000 c015fe80: ffffffff c015ff10 c015fe94 c0009d80 c000a930 c0091ec0 0000000a f8010 c015fea0: 60000053 00000000 c00966c6 c00966c7 0000001a 00000040 c00966ab c0008 c015fec0: c015ff10 0000001b c015fedc 0000001b c0018cf0 60000053 ffffffff 00000 c015fee0: 00000040 c00966c6 0000001b 00000000 00000007 c0095950 00000003 c00ab c015ff00: c00a72ac c015ff58 c015ff24 c006ca50 c0018ac8 c008a3d8 00000001 f8010 c015ff20: 20000053 00000000 00000000 c00a26c8 c015ff58 00000000 c00a2550 00000 c015ff40: 00000005 c00abc34 c00a72ac c015ff78 c015ff5c c00641dc c006c974 c0095 c015ff60: c0090764 00000001 c00a72ac c015ff88 c015ff7c c0068300 c00640a4 c015f c015ff80: c015ff8c c005d918 c00682d8 c015ffb8 c015ff9c c0048bc4 c005d914 c0095 c015ffa0: c0090764 00000001 c00a72ac c015ffe4 c015ffbc c00099d8 c0048bc0 00000 c015ffc0: c0009a9c c009075c c0090760 c00b287c c0090984 4401a118 c015fffc c015f c015ffe0: c0009aac c00098fc c0009a9c c009075c c008ffd8 c0160000 c000b580 c0009 Backtrace: Function entered at [ (= timer_bh) ] from [] r9 = 00000000 r8 = c0096120 r7 = c00a7458 r6 = c00a745c r5 = c00a74a0 r4 = 00000001 Function entered at [ (= do_bottom_half)] from [] r6 = 0000001a r5 = 00000000 r4 = 00000000 Function entered at [ (= do_IRQ)] from [] r9 = ffffffff r8 = 60000053 r7 = c0018cf0 [....] Now, we're assuming this is due to a hardware problem, but how should we interpret this 'Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32' ? Is the MMU reporting a page fault in the kernel memory area ? Ivo Clarysse. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ivo Clarysse TEL +32-2-7400788 FAX +32-2-7429654 Research Scientist Starlab - http://www.starlab.org/ PGP ID: 0x50154325 // A0A0 EDBC 37B2 C574 CC4D F1F0 FF94 04B9 5015 4325 From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Dec 22 11:15:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA19869; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:15:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJSTK02OKS94FMQS@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:15:29 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA13685; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03724; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:12:11 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA32399; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA32304; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:10:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25350; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:10:30 -0800 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id CAA13525 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:10:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.0.0.67] ident=mail) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 120ikE-00030q-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:11:46 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=mail) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 120iix-0002kZ-00; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:10:27 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 120iiw-0006YC-00; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:10:26 +0000 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:10:26 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: Bad mode in prefetch abort handler In-reply-to: Message from Ivo Clarysse "of Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:58:49 +0100." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Ivo Clarysse Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: >Internal error: Oops: 0 >CPU: 0 >pc : [<00005bb0>] lr : [<00000001>] The kernel branched to a bogus address. Kernel code and data is normally at 0xc0000000 upwards. >Backtrace: >Function entered at [ (= timer_bh) ] from [] You may be able to use this to find out where the branch came from. Since do_IRQ is involved it's possible that your daughterboard is confusing the IRQ dispatch logic and making it jump off into some non-existent handler. (I haven't looked at the SA-1100 code to see if this is possible, though other platforms have suffered from it before now.) >Now, we're assuming this is due to a hardware problem, but how should we >interpret this 'Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32' ? >Is the MMU reporting a page fault in the kernel memory area ? Pretty much. A prefetch abort is a pagefault that occurs on an instruction fetch cycle rather than a data transfer. This is not normally supposed to happen in supervisor mode. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Dec 22 11:33:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA20022; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:33:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJSU7GKSY094FTGJ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:33:36 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA30578; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:31:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19105; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:31:41 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA32405; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA32418; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:29:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25643; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:29:49 -0800 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id CAA14640 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.161.115.44] (jdbakker.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.115.44]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA02295; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:29:43 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:27:26 +0100 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: Bad mode in prefetch abort handler In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Ivo Clarysse Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk At 10:58 +0100 22-12-1999, Ivo Clarysse wrote: >We're having some problems locating a bug on our SA-1100 platform >('FEATHER'; http://foobar.starlab.net/~soggie/feather/). Hey, yet another SA-1100 board ;-) >Our platform consists of a CPU board, and a daughterboard containing >PCMCIA slots. Without the daughterboard, Linux (2.2.12-rmk1-np12) boots >up correctly and works like a charm. However, if the PCMCIA >daughterboard is attached (but not accessed from the kernel), it crashes >during the kernel initialization (decompression of the kernel works >fine). These crashes seem to happen rather randomly, but when we >modified head-armv.S to NOT enable the data & instruction caches, the >system consistently crashes with 'Bad mode in prefetch abort handler >detected: mode SVC_32', always during or the initialization of the >SA1100 serial driver (though not always at the same instruction). >Now, we're assuming this is due to a hardware problem, That would be my guess. Probably the added capacity of the daughterboard increases your effective memory access timings, or the total trace lengths become such that you are seeing transmission line effects. That or your CPU power supply decoupling is inadequate. Try increasing your memory timings; my first hack would be to set CDB2 to one and see what happens next. On your design: maybe the pictures are a bit deceptive, but it scares me that it seems possible to 'see through' to the inner layers. Are you using solid power/ground planes ? Are you sure your CPU is really running at 133MHz ? Where did you get *32 Mbit* DRAM chips ? Looking at the smaller pictures, *please* tell me that your address/data bus doesn't run over those tiny blue & black wires to that memory SIMM. > but how should we >interpret this 'Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32' ? >Is the MMU reporting a page fault in the kernel memory area ? Does it matter ? You most likely have a hardware problem; at that point your software (including the kernel) becomes strictly GIGO. Good luck, JDB. -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Dec 22 14:23:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA21349; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:23:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJT04RONMW94FT8K@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:23:16 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id FAA04655; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:21:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02095; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:21:13 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA00058; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:19:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA00016; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20780; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:19:23 -0800 Received: from orange.zav.starlab.net (extsrv.starlab.net [195.171.37.194]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id FAA24607 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from downtown.ett.starlab.net (root@[212.8.177.17]) by orange.zav.starlab.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA20293; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:19:43 +0100 Received: from wonderland.ett.starlab.net (wonderland.ett.starlab.net [212.8.177.19]) by downtown.ett.starlab.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA05403; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:19:15 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:19:14 +0100 (CET) From: Ivo Clarysse Subject: Re: Bad mode in prefetch abort handler In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: soggie@wonderland.ett.starlab.net To: "J.D. Bakker" Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, J.D. Bakker wrote: > At 10:58 +0100 22-12-1999, Ivo Clarysse wrote: > > >Now, we're assuming this is due to a hardware problem, > > That would be my guess. Probably the added capacity of the daughterboard > increases your effective memory access timings, or the total trace lengths > become such that you are seeing transmission line effects. That or your CPU > power supply decoupling is inadequate. Try increasing your memory timings; > my first hack would be to set CDB2 to one and see what happens next. With CDB2=1 and an extended CAS waveform, it crashes a bit further in the boot process, during the ramdisk decompression (inflate_dynamic -> huft_build -> malloc -> kmalloc). > On your design: maybe the pictures are a bit deceptive, but it scares me > that it seems possible to 'see through' to the inner layers. Are you using > solid power/ground planes ? Are you sure your CPU is really running at > 133MHz ? Where did you get *32 Mbit* DRAM chips ? Those pictures are from a first prototype PCB; we're currently using 2 32MB SODIMM modules. I'll put up some recent images soon. > Looking at the smaller pictures, *please* tell me that your address/data > bus doesn't run over those tiny blue & black wires to that memory SIMM. Our address/data bus doesn't run over those tiny blue & black wires. Ivo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ivo Clarysse TEL +32-2-7400788 FAX +32-2-7429654 Research Scientist Starlab - http://www.starlab.org/ PGP ID: 0x50154325 // A0A0 EDBC 37B2 C574 CC4D F1F0 FF94 04B9 5015 4325 From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Dec 22 15:00:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA21645; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:00:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJT1EY5BVU90NL2I@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:00:29 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id FAA27307; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28891; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:58:24 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA00059; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:56:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA00098; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26041; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:56:53 -0800 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id FAA08150 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.161.115.44] (jdbakker.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.115.44]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA02615; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:56:45 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:56:03 +0100 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: Bad mode in prefetch abort handler In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Ivo Clarysse Cc: "J.D. Bakker" , SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk References: >> On your design: maybe the pictures are a bit deceptive, but it scares me >> that it seems possible to 'see through' to the inner layers. Are you using >> solid power/ground planes ? Are you sure your CPU is really running at >> 133MHz ? Where did you get *32 Mbit* DRAM chips ? > >Those pictures are from a first prototype PCB; we're currently using >2 32MB SODIMM modules. I'll put up some recent images soon. Do you buffer the address/data/control lines to the SODIMMs ? If not, assuming that you use 72pin SODIMMS which can be compared to Micron MT4LDT832HXs, the load on the nWE-line is already 32nF per module; add around 5n per socket and you get a grand total of 74n on the line, which exceeds the 50n load that the SA-1100 likes to see. And that's even without the Flash. Probably the daughterboard pushes it over the edge. Another possible culprit is the power supply. Is the daughterboard powered from the main board, and if so did you measure the difference in (HF) power supply ripple with and without the daughterboard connected ? >> Looking at the smaller pictures, *please* tell me that your address/data >> bus doesn't run over those tiny blue & black wires to that memory SIMM. > >Our address/data bus doesn't run over those tiny blue & black wires. Ah great; I was getting nightmares in my daydreams from thinking about it ;-) Sincerely, JDB [happily running Linux on SA-1100 with daughtercards @110MHz mem bus clock] -- Jan-Derk Bakker, bakker@mmc.et.tudelft.nl The lazy man's proverb: 'There's no business like slow business !' From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Dec 24 05:10:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA02415; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 05:10:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJV9E0YFUS94FVT5@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 05:10:23 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id UAA07108; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:03:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24470; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:02:46 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA05729; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:00:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA05780; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09738; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:00:29 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable233.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.233]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id UAA23885 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:00:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA21973 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:55:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:55:44 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.3.33-rmk3-np1 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Yep! diff-2.3.33-rmk3-np1.gz is available from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. This patch reintroduces Brutus LCD console into Linux 2.3.x, cleaned-up keyboard driver, and assorted fixes. But... still if you have a Brutus (or any other SA1100 implementation) with *more* than 2 RAM banks which are *less* than 4mb each, then you won't be able to use it all... yet. I still have to figure out how the discontigous memory support stuff works. If anyone has a clear idea on how to deal with it, especially the multiple mem_maps and additionnal required macros, then please tell me about it! But for many people it should work. If you come to try it please let me know how it goes. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Dec 24 19:39:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA05256; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 19:39:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJW3Q0HS4S90NLI4@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 19:38:59 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id KAA13929; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17923; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:35:08 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA05956; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:34:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA06006; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13451; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:34:13 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable233.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.233]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id KAA11047 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:34:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24500 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 13:29:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 13:29:29 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: diff-2.3.33-rmk3-np1 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > But for many people it should work. If you come to try it please let me > know how it goes. Finally I was able to test initrd. It doesn't work. Anybody knows if initrd actually works for i386 with Linux 2.3.33? ( let's go for crash analysis again... :-) ) Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Dec 24 21:09:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedv.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA05388; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:09:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJW6WFZLOY94F8NN@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:09:43 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id MAA17981; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:02:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00232; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:02:06 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA05973; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:01:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA05925; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:01:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30825; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:01:47 -0800 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id MAA17783 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 121ath-0005HY-00; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 20:01:09 +0000 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 20:01:08 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: diff-2.3.33-rmk3-np1 In-reply-to: Message from Nicolas Pitre "of Fri, 24 Dec 1999 13:29:29 EST." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: >Finally I was able to test initrd. It doesn't work. Anybody knows if >initrd actually works for i386 with Linux 2.3.33? No, I think it was broken on all architectures. Patches do exist to fix it though. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Dec 25 01:39:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id BAA05644; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 01:39:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JJWGBLS52Y90NOBW@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 01:39:12 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id QAA07989; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 16:32:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00248; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 16:32:52 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA05667; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 16:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA06055; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 16:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30533; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 16:32:10 -0800 Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id QAA27345 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 16:32:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id JAA20084 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 09:32:07 +0900 Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 09:32:01 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii Subject: Re: diff-2.3.33-rmk3-np1 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100 mailng list Message-id: <386410811C2.66ADHIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk References: On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 20:01:08 +0000 Philip Blundell wrote: > >Finally I was able to test initrd. It doesn't work. Anybody knows if > >initrd actually works for i386 with Linux 2.3.33? > > No, I think it was broken on all architectures. Patches do exist to fix it > though. > Really? Where is it's patch? ---- ++ Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD ++ ++ Hiroshi Ishii ++ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Dec 29 06:28:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA15957; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 06:28:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JK2BL5JR8A8WVYUM@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 06:28:53 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id VAA28449; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:25:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00720; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:25:06 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA01258; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:22:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA01254; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26505; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:22:10 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable235.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.235]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id VAA27589 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:22:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA32375 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:17:36 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:17:36 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.3.33-rmk3-np2 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs ... is on ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. I only added the bits that seem to be required for initial ramdisks to work. All the rest is the same as 2.3.33-rmk3-np1. I can't tell if it works or not (can't test it atm) since I didn't have time to figure out the discontigous memory support for my Brutus yet... and that's the only SA1100 device I have access to from now on... So any report is welcome! Nicollas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 4 06:39:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA09335; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:39:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKAPOW20TU8WW21A@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:39:06 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id VAA02545; Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18045; Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:33:58 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA23868; Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:30:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA23869; Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:30:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04425; Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:30:41 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable235.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.235]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id VAA02310 for ; Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:30:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16312 for ; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:26:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:26:17 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.3.33-rmk3-np3 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs It's available from the usual place. I think I got the discontigmem support working this time. It might need further cleaning but hey! it's working better now. Seems it can actually mount an initial ramdisk! If anybody plays with this one, please tell me about your results. Nicolas P.S. Happy new year and millennium to all! From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 4 09:25:49 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id JAA09825; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 09:25:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKAVIGNMBC8ZE3QX@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 09:25:47 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id AAA13017; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:18:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01205; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:18:48 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA24288; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA24282; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03085; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:15:45 -0800 Received: from mta3.263.net ([202.96.44.45]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id AAA12707 for ; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by mta3.263.net (Postfix, from userid 60001) id B82C41C3536F3; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 16:14:44 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 16:14:44 +0800 (CST) From: daihb@263.net Subject: how to port to SA1110? Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <3871ABF4.26615@mta3> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Precedence: bulk X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to base64 by mail2.digital.com id AAA12707 X-Priority: 3 ICBJcyB0aGVyZSBiaWcgZGlmZmVyZW5jZSBiZXR3ZWVuIHRoZXNlIHR3byBwbGF0Zm9ybT8N DQpDYW4gdGhlIFNBMTEwMCBrZXJuZWwgcnVuIG9uIFNBMTExMCB3aXRob3V0IG1vZGlmaWNh dGlvbnM/DQ0KV2hhdCBhcmUgdGhlIGxhdGVzdCB0b29scyhnY2MsYmludXRpbHMsbGliYyxr ZXJuZWwpIGNhbiBiZSB1c2VkIHRvIGJ1aWxkIGEgZGV2ZWxvcG1lbnQgZW52aXJvbm1lbnQg Zm9yIFNBMTExMD9BbmQgd2hlcmUgd2lsbCB0aGVtIGJlIGF2YWlsYWJsZT8NDQpMb3N0IG9m IHRoYW5rcyBpbiBhZHZhbmNlLg0NCkhhcHB5IG5ldyB5ZWFyIQ0NCg0NCiBEYXZpZA0NCg0N Cl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXw0Kyte2vNTa z98tLc/IvfjW0Ln6yMu1xM34yc+80tSwIGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuMjYzLm5ldA0Kw+K30dPKz+Qg 08q8/tTT1r4gx6nD+9PKvP4g08q8/rzTw9wg08q8/te3ye269A0Ky9HL99L9x+YguPbIy9W+ teMg1NrP39POz7cgzfjJz8HEzOwgzfjJz7nSusUNCr3wyNrN9bn6INTaz9/Jsba+IMz41OnK 0LOhIMjtvP7PwtTYINDdz9DT6cDWDQrFtbe9sLLIq6Os1vrE+mXCt8a9sLINCg== From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 4 09:27:41 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id JAA09837; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 09:27:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKAVKU4TR68WW232@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 09:27:39 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id AAA13389; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:25:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18985; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:25:38 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA24298; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:22:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA24316; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:22:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10640; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:22:50 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id AAA09545 for ; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 19:21:48 +1100 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 19:21:36 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Re: how to port to SA1110? In-reply-to: <3871ABF4.26615@mta3> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: daihb@263.net Cc: nico@CAM.ORG, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 daihb@263.net wrote: > Is there big difference between these two platform? > Can the SA1100 kernel run on SA1110 without modifications? > What are the latest tools(gcc,binutils,libc,kernel) can be used to build a development environment for SA1110?And where will them be available? > Lost of thanks in advance. The only difference is the memory controller. This would probably require some small changes to the kernel. Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 4 16:30:06 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA12182; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:30:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKBACJN5BG8WW20F@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:30:03 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA06462; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 07:28:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09129; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 07:27:50 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA25454; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 07:26:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA25465; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 07:26:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25228; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 07:26:29 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA07159 for ; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 07:26:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 10:18:31 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: how to port to SA1110? In-reply-to: <3871ABF4.26615@mta3> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: daihb@263.net Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 daihb@263.net wrote: > Is there big difference between these two platform? No. > Can the SA1100 kernel run on SA1110 without modifications? Probably. It depends only on where your ram appears physically. Maybe little modifications to the kernel source might be needed. > What are the latest tools(gcc,binutils,libc,kernel) can be used to build a development environment for SA1110?And where will them be available? See http://inkvine.fluff.org/~chris/arm-tools.html. Nicollas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 5 09:33:03 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id JAA14924; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:33:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKCA2SR8SU8WW2SH@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:32:59 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id AAA20444; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 00:28:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28194; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 00:28:27 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA28002; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 00:25:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA28008; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 00:25:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00702; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 00:25:37 -0800 Received: from hw_mail.zentral (pec-21-88.tnt1.h.uunet.de [149.225.21.88]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id AAA20258 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 00:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by HW_MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 09:27:22 +0100 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 09:27:15 +0100 From: "JOR. - Jordan, Roman" Subject: AW: how to port to SA1110? Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'NICO@CAM.ORG'" Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: <81413F587EB9D1118F56000092941A3EA78BE9@HW_MAIL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Hi, i know there is also a check for the type of the processor. So this = thinks has also to be modified. regards, Roman -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Postmaster=20 Gesendet am: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 16:45 An: JOR. - Jordan, Roman Betreff: WG: how to port to SA1110? > ---------- > Von: Nicolas Pitre[SMTP:NICO@CAM.ORG] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Januar 2000 16:33:40 > An: daihb@263.net > Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > Betreff: Re: how to port to SA1110? > Diese Nachricht wurde automatisch von einer Regel weitergeleitet. >=20 >=20 >=20 On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 daihb@263.net wrote: > Is there big difference between these two platform? No. > Can the SA1100 kernel run on SA1110 without modifications? Probably. It depends only on where your ram appears physically. Maybe little modifications to the kernel source might be needed. > What are the latest tools(gcc,binutils,libc,kernel) can be used to = build a development environment for SA1110?And where will them be available? See http://inkvine.fluff.org/~chris/arm-tools.html. Nicollas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 5 20:05:38 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA18227; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:05:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKCW63VBJS8WW2X5@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:05:35 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id LAA03047; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 11:00:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03909; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 11:00:24 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA29617; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 10:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA29596; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 10:58:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14665; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 10:58:07 -0800 Received: from wodc7mr4.ffx.ops.us.uu.net (wodc7mr4.ffx.ops.us.uu.net [192.48.96.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id KAA02641 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 10:58:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from idefix by wodc7mr4.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: [63.68.31.100]) id QQhwsh04379 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 18:57:51 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 10:58:14 -0800 From: Jens Skakkebaek Subject: X on SA-1100 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: jskakkebaek@bv2000.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Hi, I'm new to this list and have a quick question: Has anybody ported X11/XFree86 to the SA-1100? Thanks, Jens From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 6 06:00:21 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA20381; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 06:00:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKDGXEBIQ28ZE878@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 06:00:18 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id UAA16321; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 20:58:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29305; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 20:57:46 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA31168; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 20:55:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA31141; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 20:54:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27203; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 20:54:56 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable235.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.235]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id UAA19364 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 20:54:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24499 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2000 23:50:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 23:50:40 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np1 works!! Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Happy dance !! :-) I finally got it! This is the first 2.3.x version that actually works for me on Brutus! The discontigous memory support seems OK this time. I've been able to run with the ramdisk image found along with my patches on netwinder FTP site (note: don't trust the issue text!). So, it should be usable for more people now. I'll clean things up a bit and start figuring out how to implement pcmcia support. If you try this patch please drop me a note. Happy hacking! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 7 00:28:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA25347; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:28:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKEJLX7ZMA8WW391@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:28:04 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA31589; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09249; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:25:44 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA01292; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA01284; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:23:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19716; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:23:16 -0800 Received: from tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com (mail.teklogix.com [207.219.2.10]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id PAA31453 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from DeadDuck (BILL [10.128.5.25]) by tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id ZLPHTK01; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 18:22:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 18:22:22 -0600 From: Bill Pringlemeir Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np1 works!! In-reply-to: Nicolas Pitre's message of "Wed, 5 Jan 2000 23:50:40 -0500 (EST)" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.3 Precedence: bulk X-Home-Page: http://www.wwonline.com/~bpringle/ Lines: 18 References: I have the new SA1110 dev board from Intel. It has a CE loader and the Angel debugger. I would like to load a coff image. I think I can convert to binary and write some code to make an 'Microsoft CE .bin' file. Is this a good way to get Linux on this board, before I write some init code to boot from scratch? Does anyone know how the SA1110 WinCE boot chip setup the memory map? thx, Bill -- We're off to see the wizard. Because because because.... of all the wonderful things he does. From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 7 08:02:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id IAA26904; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 08:02:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKEZGPI6C88ZEAIU@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 08:02:01 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id WAA29765; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 22:56:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23749; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 22:56:03 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA02429; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 22:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA02420; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 22:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20993; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 22:53:38 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id WAA26948 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 22:53:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA14556 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 22:53:37 -0800 Received: from cs.washington.edu (cs303-5.spmodem.washington.edu [140.142.171.6]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA06900 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 22:53:36 -0800 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 22:54:28 -0800 From: Collin K Murphy Subject: Can't use all of DRAM Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: SA-1100/Linux Reply-to: ckmurphy@cs.washington.edu Message-id: <38758DA4.3369B6A9@cs.washington.edu> Organization: University of Washington MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en I am using the StrongARM eval board (Brutus) and trying to port Linux to it. I have followed the instructions at the Intel site. I can succesfully get the kernel to boot on the eval board but I had to set the memory size (memory_end in arch/arm/kernel/setup.c) to 8MB instead of the available 16MB. If it is set to 16MB, the kernel will not boot. Also, I have found that there is a maximum size of the ramdisk (2MB) and anything above that will not work. I am using linux-2.2.2 with the following patches: patch-2.2.2-rmk5.gz diff-2.2.2-rmk5-np3.gz Has anyone else had this problem? Could it be a conflict with Angel? Collin K Murphy Department of Computer Science and Engineering University of Washington Seattle, WA From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 7 10:42:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA27701; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 10:42:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKF52304I48WW3QS@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 10:42:01 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA07539; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 01:37:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28174; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 01:37:51 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA02855; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 01:37:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA02857; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 01:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03561; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 01:37:15 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id BAA05168 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 01:37:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA27662; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 10:35:53 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 10:35:53 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: Can't use all of DRAM In-reply-to: <38758DA4.3369B6A9@cs.washington.edu> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: ckmurphy@cs.washington.edu Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200001070935.KAA27662@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Thu, 06 Jan 2000 22:54:28 -0800, Collin K Murphy wrote: > I am using the StrongARM eval board (Brutus) and trying to port Linux to it. > I have followed the instructions at the Intel site. Ehm, it is already ported, I suppose you mean "run Linux on it"... ;-) > I can succesfully get the kernel to boot on the eval board but I had to set > the memory size (memory_end in arch/arm/kernel/setup.c) to 8MB instead of > the available 16MB. If it is set to 16MB, the kernel will not boot. > > Also, I have found that there is a maximum size of the ramdisk (2MB) and > anything above that will not work. > > I am using linux-2.2.2 with the following patches: > patch-2.2.2-rmk5.gz > diff-2.2.2-rmk5-np3.gz > > Has anyone else had this problem? Could it be a conflict with Angel? I suggest you try a newer Linux version. The latest Linux 2.2 version for SA1100 is: linux-2.2.12 + patch-2.2.12-rmk2.gz + diff-2.2.10-rmk2-np11.gz Or the latest 2.3 version: linux-2.3.35 + patch-2.3.35-rmk1.gz + diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np2.gz The 2.3 version should definitely work for Brutus, Nicolas Pitre announced it yesterday: I finally got it! This is the first 2.3.x version that actually works for me on Brutus! Erik PS: I don't have a Brutus... -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 11 11:46:49 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA27526; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:46:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07290 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:46:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #35209) with ESMTP id <0FO500DLRY1VVG@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:54:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id AAA21577; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:49:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07878; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:48:47 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA17956; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA17902; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:45:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06161; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:45:06 -0800 Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id AAA04710 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:45:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id RAA23581 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:44:58 +0900 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:44:52 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np1 works!! In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100 mailng list Message-id: <387AED843B6.0104HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk References: On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 23:50:40 -0500 (EST) Nicolas Pitre wrote: > Happy dance !! :-) > > I finally got it! This is the first 2.3.x version that actually works for > me on Brutus! > It works for me, too!! Great !! But sometimes occurred swapper trouble. ---- ++ Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD ++ ++ Hiroshi Ishii ++ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 11 11:52:47 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA27912; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:52:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA10181 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:52:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #35209) with ESMTP id <0FO500D5EYK8VG@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:05:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA21683; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:01:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27371; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:01:02 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA17995; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA18021; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29322; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:00:51 -0800 Received: from web1203.mail.yahoo.com (web1203.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.139]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA21926 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19912 invoked by uid 60001); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:00:05 +0000 Received: from [192.11.220.97] by web1203.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:00:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:00:05 -0800 (PST) From: wolf Subject: Where to get sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com mailing list archive Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-id: <20000111090005.19911.qmail@web1203.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk Hi, Could somebody tell me where to get the archive of the sa1100-linux@pa.dec.ocm mailing list? 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 11 11:47:35 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA27605; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:47:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07923 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:47:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #35209) with ESMTP id <0FO600GU90DNFI@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:44:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA25185; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:40:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17911; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:40:12 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA18127; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA18132; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09727; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:39:50 -0800 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id BAA25381 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.0.0.67] ident=mail) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 127xnW-0003Fk-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:41:06 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=mail) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 127xm9-0001dM-00; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:39:41 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 127xm9-00030H-00; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:39:41 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:39:41 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np1 works!! In-reply-to: Message from Hiroshi Ishii "of Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:44:52 +0900." <387AED843B6.0104HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Hiroshi Ishii Cc: sa1100 mailng list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <387AED843B6.0104HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> > It works for me, too!! Great !! > >But sometimes occurred swapper trouble. What do you mean by `swapper trouble'? p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 11 11:59:48 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA28550; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:59:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA12902 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:59:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #35209) with ESMTP id <0FO600K5T3PNKJ@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:56:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA12109; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:49:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17549; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:49:07 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA18322; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA18325; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13259; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:48:26 -0800 Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id CAA29165 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id TAA24270 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:47:44 +0900 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:47:39 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np1 works!! In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100 mailng list Message-id: <387B0A4B2DA.0105HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk References: <387AED843B6.0104HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:39:41 +0000 Philip Blundell wrote: > > It works for me, too!! Great !! > > > >But sometimes occurred swapper trouble. > > What do you mean by `swapper trouble'? > > p. Kernel out following messages; ---- swapper (0): undefined instruction: pc=c000852c Internal error: Oops - undefined instruction: 10 CPU: 0 pc : [] lr : [] sp : c0126000 ip : c0125fc0 fp : 00000000 r10: 00000000 r9 : 6901b115 r8 : c0126984 r7 : c0189a70 r6 : c0189a24 r5 : c0194b38 r4 : c0194b38 r3 : 00000000 r2 : fffffffd r1 : 00000000 r0 : 00000000 Flags: nZCv IRQs on FIQs on Mode SVC_32 Segment kernel Control: C0E7917F Table: C0E7917F DAC: 0000001D Process swapper (pid: 0, stackpage=c0125000) Stack: c0125fe0: c000fca0 c000852c 60000013 fffff Backtrace: no frame pointer Code: pc not in code space Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task! In swapper task - not syncing ------ Regards; ---- ++ Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD ++ ++ Hiroshi Ishii ++ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 11 12:48:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id MAA00596; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:48:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA03286 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:48:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #35209) with ESMTP id <0FO600LNI64BYL@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:48:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id DAA32218; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 03:44:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23021; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 03:44:03 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA18487; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 03:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA18448; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 03:43:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05010; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 03:43:35 -0800 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id DAA13648 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 03:43:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.0.0.67]) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 127zjI-0003IS-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:44:52 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=mail) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 127zhw-00027g-00; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:43:28 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 127zhv-0004QW-00; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:43:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:43:27 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np1 works!! In-reply-to: Message from Hiroshi Ishii "of Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:47:39 +0900." <387B0A4B2DA.0105HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Hiroshi Ishii Cc: sa1100 mailng list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <387AED843B6.0104HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> <387B0A4B2DA.0105HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> >swapper (0): undefined instruction: pc=c000852c >Internal error: Oops - undefined instruction: 10 >CPU: 0 >pc : [] lr : [] Can you convert those addresses to source code references? Say, using addr2line or gdb. Just cross-referencing them to symbols (with System.map) would be a help. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 11 15:26:23 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA01718; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:26:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA09731 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:26:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO60094TDFGWA@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:26:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id GAA24842; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:20:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07432; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:20:34 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA18955; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:19:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA18935; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30447; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:19:50 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable235.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.235]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id GAA24425 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05108; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:15:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:15:38 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np1 works!! In-reply-to: <387AED843B6.0104HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Hiroshi Ishii Cc: sa1100 mailng list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Hiroshi Ishii wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 23:50:40 -0500 (EST) > Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > > Happy dance !! :-) > > > > I finally got it! This is the first 2.3.x version that actually works for > > me on Brutus! > > > > It works for me, too!! Great !! > > But sometimes occurred swapper trouble. I'm up to diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np4. Please try this one since 2.3.35-rmk1-np1 had some oddness. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 11 15:50:44 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA01868; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:50:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA10682 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:50:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO600AGNEK3HH@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:50:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id GAA12803; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25602; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:46:27 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA19014; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA18992; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18831; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:46:04 -0800 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id GAA12664 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:46:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA20992; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:45:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:45:11 +0100 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np1 works!! Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk [We have had some e-mail problems; I hope you don't receive this message twice] Dear Nicolas, >The discontigous memory support seems OK this time. Nevertheless there's the #error in line 436 of arch/arm/kernel/setup.c . I understand that the new 2.3 memory management is the (indirect) cause. I'd love to fix this, but you'd have to supply me with some more clues. Do I understand correctly that the problem lies in the fact that LART has discontiguous memory within one bank ? How would you suggest that I go about fixing this ? Sincerely, Jan-Derk Bakker [who'd love to try out 2.3 on LART, but...] -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 11 16:52:10 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA02207; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:52:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12781 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:52:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO600F5IHEFY0@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:51:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA17980; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16997; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:44:46 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA19204; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:43:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA19196; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:43:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25242; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:43:33 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA31587 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:43:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:26:41 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np1 works!! In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "J.D. Bakker" Cc: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, J.D. Bakker wrote: > Dear Nicolas, > > >The discontigous memory support seems OK this time. > > Nevertheless there's the #error in line 436 of arch/arm/kernel/setup.c . I > understand that the new 2.3 memory management is the (indirect) cause. I'd > love to fix this, but you'd have to supply me with some more clues. Yeah... I didn't fix that part yet. > Do I understand correctly that the problem lies in the fact that LART has > discontiguous memory within one bank ? How would you suggest that I go > about fixing this ? The code need to be reworked a bit to break the 1:1 relation between memory banks and memory nodes. Instead of creating a new node for each _logical_ memory bank as described by the meminfo structure, you should pick up all memory belonging to each node (creating nodes from the lowest to the hiest available page frame for that node) and declaring only real memory with free_bootmem(). Well, this may seem a bit vague but it's sometimes easier to express with code. If I have time I'll try to do it tonight. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 12 00:26:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA04294; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:26:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA21892 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:26:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO700A122F9NY@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:25:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA23512; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21931; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:18:37 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA20398; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:18:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA20404; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:18:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27738; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:18:03 -0800 Received: from fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com (ns.arm.com [208.193.202.3]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id PAA23748 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:18:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com; id PAA02297; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:13:37 -0800 Received: from unknown(194.202.50.2) by fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com via smap (V5.0) id xma002286; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:12:38 -0800 Received: from magpie (dhcp47 [194.202.50.238]) by incsun1.losgatos.arm.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA09413 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:13:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:06:16 -0600 From: Ian Field Subject: linux distribution Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <004c01bf5c77$b3749990$ee32cac2@losgatos.arm.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01BF5C45.68BBA510" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01BF5C45.68BBA510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I've been playing with SA1100-PCMCIA ---> IDE with no luck. It may = be that I'm using an old rev2 part, but in any case, I get alot of = errors. http://www.pobox.com/~ianfield/armzone/sa1100_v1.1/boot1.txt After disabling "using_dma" in the ide-disk driver, it seems to work a = little better although at this stage I'm flying blind. What I was wondering was, other than the patched brutus/sa1100 = distribution we all know, is this the same source tree the eMpeg guys = run, or are there some differences that haven't made it into the main = distribution ( perhaps the eMpeg community can comment ). drivers/block/ide-disk.c /* * IDE subdriver functions, registered with ide.c */ static ide_driver_t idedisk_driver =3D { "ide-disk", /* name */ IDEDISK_VERSION, /* version */ ide_disk, /* media */ 0, /* busy */ 1, /* supports_dma */ 0, /* supports_dsc_overlap */ Cheers, IAN ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01BF5C45.68BBA510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
    I've been playing = with=20 SA1100-PCMCIA ---> IDE with no luck. It may be that I'm using an old = rev2=20 part, but in any case, I get alot of errors.
 
htt= p://www.pobox.com/~ianfield/armzone/sa1100_v1.1/boot1.txt
 
After disabling "using_dma" in the = ide-disk=20 driver, it seems to work a little better although at this stage I'm = flying=20 blind.
 
What I was wondering was, other than = the patched=20 brutus/sa1100 distribution we all know, is this the same source tree the = eMpeg=20 guys run, or are there some differences that=20 haven't made it into the main distribution ( perhaps the eMpeg community = can=20 comment ).
 
drivers/block/ide-disk.c
 
/*
*      = IDE subdriver=20 functions, registered with ide.c
*/
static ide_driver_t = idedisk_driver =3D=20 {
       =20 "ide-disk",          &n= bsp; =20 /* name */
       =20 IDEDISK_VERSION,        /* version=20 */
       =20 ide_disk,          &nbs= p;   =20 /* media */
       =20 0,            = ;         =20 /* busy */
       =20 1,            = ;         =20 /* supports_dma */
       =20 0,            = ;         =20 /* supports_dsc_overlap */
 
 
Cheers, IAN
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0049_01BF5C45.68BBA510-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 12 02:33:15 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA04822; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:33:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA23809 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:33:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO700DEU8AZ63@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:33:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id RAA14743; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:27:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11967; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:27:28 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA20740; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA20746; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:27:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32253; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:27:07 -0800 Received: from fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com (ns.arm.com [208.193.202.3]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id RAA01253 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:27:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com; id RAA02894; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:22:41 -0800 Received: from unknown(194.202.50.2) by fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com via smap (V5.0) id xma002889; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:22:09 -0800 Received: from magpie (dhcp47 [194.202.50.238]) by incsun1.losgatos.arm.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA13892; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:22:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:15:47 -0600 From: Ian Field Subject: Re: linux distribution Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <007901bf5c89$cb3bc4b0$ee32cac2@losgatos.arm.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk References: > > Calibrating delay loop... 55.30 BogoMIPS > Did you configure your clock speed correctly? In the past I left the clock at the default value, but I have tried it at 220MHz also. I also played with the pcmcia clock using victor and empeg values. > What hardware setup do you have exactly? It's pretty much glueless to the pcmcia interface, although I do not use the DMACK and DMARQ signals, just IOR/IOW. Do you know what others do? > AFAIK 2.2.12-rmk1-np12 contains everything to have IDE working with eMpeg > and Victor. The SA1100 specifics are in include/asm/arch/ide.h. yep ... good to hear that it's all there. hmm ... ( time to start blaming my hw again ) Cheers, IAN From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 12 02:15:42 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA04755; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:15:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA23585 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:15:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO700D307HR7C@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:15:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id RAA13453; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19554; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:07:49 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA20692; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:07:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA20665; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:07:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10413; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:07:24 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable235.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.235]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id RAA32143 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:07:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05426; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:03:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:03:10 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: linux distribution In-reply-to: <004c01bf5c77$b3749990$ee32cac2@losgatos.arm.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Ian Field Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Ian Field wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been playing with SA1100-PCMCIA ---> IDE with no luck. It may be > that I'm using an old rev2 part, but in any case, I get alot of errors. > > http://www.pobox.com/~ianfield/armzone/sa1100_v1.1/boot1.txt What is strange from your log is this: > Calibrating delay loop... 55.30 BogoMIPS Did you configure your clock speed correctly? > After disabling "using_dma" in the ide-disk driver, it seems to work > a little better although at this stage I'm flying blind. What hardware setup do you have exactly? > What I was wondering was, other than the patched brutus/sa1100 distribution > we all know, is this the same source tree the eMpeg guys run, or are > there some differences that haven't made it into the main distribution > (perhaps the eMpeg community can comment ). AFAIK 2.2.12-rmk1-np12 contains everything to have IDE working with eMpeg and Victor. The SA1100 specifics are in include/asm/arch/ide.h. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 12 04:52:30 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA05467; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:52:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA24732 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:52:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO700FK0ER3N5@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:52:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id TAA23779; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:44:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05198; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:44:07 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA21151; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA21146; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07855; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:43:24 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable235.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.235]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id TAA23896 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA08180; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:39:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:39:10 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: linux distribution In-reply-to: <007901bf5c89$cb3bc4b0$ee32cac2@losgatos.arm.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Ian Field Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Ian Field wrote: > > What hardware setup do you have exactly? > > It's pretty much glueless to the pcmcia interface, although I do not use the > DMACK and DMARQ signals, just IOR/IOW. Do you know what others do? The Victor has some transceiver (3.3V, 5V tol) and IOR/IOW/IOCS16 directly routed from the IDE connector to the SA1100 pins, plus few address lines where one to decode between the low and high IDE registers. It's pretty obvious design. > > AFAIK 2.2.12-rmk1-np12 contains everything to have IDE working with eMpeg > > and Victor. The SA1100 specifics are in include/asm/arch/ide.h. > > yep ... good to hear that it's all there. hmm ... > ( time to start blaming my hw again ) Currently you aren't far from it, since the driver is at least able to identify the drive and read the partition table. BTW: since you are using a Sundisk, are you sure it is properly powered? In the past I've been able to make a Sundisk work (sort of) without the main power. It seemed to suck its power from the control lines. The result was quite like yours. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 12 05:19:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA05565; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 05:19:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA24856 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 05:19:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO700G1WG0SUB@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 05:19:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id UAA25782; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:11:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01820; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:11:45 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA21228; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA21213; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17620; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:11:21 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable235.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.235]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id UAA07856 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:11:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09379 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:07:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:07:18 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np5 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs ... is there waiting for you to play with! It seems stable, but I can't test it with real device yet (the only SA1100 hardware I have access to is a Brutus and it can't talk to pcmcia ATAPI adaptor yet). This one should be bootable on a LART too. Tell me guys if it works. Happy hacking! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 12 11:09:16 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA07662; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:09:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA00932 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:09:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO7003KRVSPQ5@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:00:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA13860; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07593; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:50:46 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA22106; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:48:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA22102; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:48:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04270; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:48:01 -0800 Received: from adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.100.248.143]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id BAA01010 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:48:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from biff (biff [192.168.1.4]) by adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA13996 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:46:06 -0800 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:49:03 -0700 From: Ian Field Subject: Re: linux distribution Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: Ian Field Message-id: <004f01bf5cd9$e1062c40$0401a8c0@casagrande.way> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk References: > The Victor has some transceiver (3.3V, 5V tol) and IOR/IOW/IOCS16 directly > routed from the IDE connector to the SA1100 pins, plus few address lines > where one to decode between the low and high IDE registers. It's pretty > obvious design. ok ... sounds like what I did. > Currently you aren't far from it, since the driver is at least able to > identify the drive and read the partition table. cool ... I can read off files and directories, but I get errors occasionally, and sometimes it outright hangs. Before you mentioned 50bogomips was an issue. Is the driver in some way affected by the cpu and memory clocks? > BTW: since you are using a Sundisk, are you sure it is properly powered? > In the past I've been able to make a Sundisk work (sort of) without the > main power. It seemed to suck its power from the control lines. The > result was quite like yours. I also use zip, hd_disk and cdrom drives for testing using the pc as the power supply. I've been able to run executables off the zip drive, some of the files being corrupted. hmmm ... since the drivers are mature, I will probably have to put it down to a board problem, and figure it out when I build up a second cleaner board. Thanks for the help. Cheers, IAN From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 12 11:51:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA08039; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:51:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA02394 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:51:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO7007CYY61JN@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:51:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id CAA14839; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:39:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09145; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:39:02 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA22195; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:36:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA22220; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17429; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:36:44 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id CAA02396 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:36:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA07868; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:35:04 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:35:04 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np5 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200001121035.LAA07868@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:07:18 -0500 (EST), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > This one should be bootable on a LART too. Tell me guys if it works. It compiles without problems. I'm going to test it tonight (if I remember the root password for the programming PC correctly). Erik -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 12 22:51:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA12010; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:51:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA18572 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:51:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO800IJ1SPU6J@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:51:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id NAA23673; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:42:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16674; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:42:27 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA24057; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA24056; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:39:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21247; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:39:50 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id NAA23452 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA11930; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:38:30 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:38:30 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np5 In-reply-to: <200001121035.LAA07868@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, J.D.Bakker@its.tudelft.nl Message-id: <200001122138.WAA11930@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:35:04 +0100 (MET), Erik Mouw wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:07:18 -0500 (EST), Nicolas Pitre wrote: >> This one should be bootable on a LART too. Tell me guys if it works. > > It compiles without problems. I'm going to test it tonight (if I remember > the root password for the programming PC correctly). I got the root password, but linux-2.3.35 doesn't run on LART. Here is the oops (blob is our bootloader[1]): blob> status Bootloader : blob Version : 1.0.0 Running from : external flash Blocksize : 0x00800000 Download speed: 115200 baud Kernel : downloaded, 465524 bytes Ramdisk : from flash blob> boot Starting kernel ... Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel. Linux version 2.3.35-rmk1-np5 (erikm@besson.et.tudelft.nl) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #1 Wed Jan 12 10:26:56 CET 2000 On node 0 totalpages: 00000800 zone(0): 2048 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. On node 1 totalpages: 00000800 zone(0): 2048 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Calibrating delay loop... 208.08 BogoMIPS Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000004 pgd = c0004000 *pgd = c016e001, *pmd = c016e001, *pte = c016d08b, *ppte = c016d00a Internal error: Oops: 0 CPU: 0 pc : [] lr : [] sp : c0103f44 ip : c010b2fc fp : c0103f74 r10: ffffffff r9 : 663c0000 r8 : 00000014 r7 : 00000000 r6 : 1061663d r5 : c01b2834 r4 : 00000000 r3 : 600000d3 r2 : ea0000ce r1 : 00000040 r0 : 00079f88 Flags: nZCv IRQs off FIQs off Mode SVC_32 Segment kernel Control: C000517D Table: C000517D DAC: 0000001D Process swapper (pid: 0, stackpage=c0103000) Stack: c0103f20: c002f4b0 c00307c8 600000d3 c0103f40: ffffffff 00000040 0830b31e c01b2834 00000000 00001000 c01123f8 00000270 c0103f60: 00001800 00000001 c0103fa0 c0103f78 c002f4b0 c00306b0 00000000 c011245c c0103f80: 00068310 00000008 c010b2f4 000001a0 c010b524 c0103fb0 c0103fa4 c002f6c8 c0103fa0: c002f3d0 c0103fe4 c0103fb4 c0011e58 c002f6a4 000000d0 000003db 00000000 c0103fc0: c016922c c0162aa4 c0162af0 c010498c 4401a119 c00085f8 c0103ffc c0103fe8 c0103fe0: c000a5e0 c0011d88 c01049cc c016922c 00000000 c0104000 c0008080 c000a544 Backtrace: Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] r4 = C016922C Code: e5942004 e06a2002 (e5842004) ea00003e c010b2fc Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task! In swapper task - not syncing With a quickly hacked-up cross-ksymoops[2] I can track down the oops at: erikm@inpc48:~> arm-linux-ksymoops -v vmlinux -m System.map -t arm-linux -K -L -O oops.log ksymoops 2.3.3 on i586 2.2.5-15. Options used -v vmlinux (specified) -K (specified) -L (specified) -O (specified) -m System.map (specified) -t arm-linux Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000004 *pgd = c016e001, *pmd = c016e001, *pte = c016d08b, *ppte = c016d00a Internal error: Oops: 0 CPU: 0 pc : [] lr : [] Using defaults from ksymoops -a unknown sp : c0103f44 ip : c010b2fc fp : c0103f74 r10: ffffffff r9 : 663c0000 r8 : 00000014 Warning (Oops_set_i370_regs): garbage 'r9 : 663c0000 r8 : 00000014' at end of i370 register line ignored r7 : 00000000 r6 : 1061663d r5 : c01b2834 r4 : 00000000 r3 : 600000d3 r2 : ea0000ce r1 : 00000040 r0 : 00079f88 Flags: nZCv IRQs off FIQs off Mode SVC_32 Segment kernel Control: C000517D Table: C000517D DAC: 0000001D Process swapper (pid: 0, stackpage=c0103000) Stack: c0103f20: c002f4b0 c00307c8 600000d3 c0103f40: ffffffff 00000040 0830b31e c01b2834 00000000 00001000 c01123f8 00000270 c0103f60: 00001800 00000001 c0103fa0 c0103f78 c002f4b0 c00306b0 00000000 c011245c c0103f80: 00068310 00000008 c010b2f4 000001a0 c010b524 c0103fb0 c0103fa4 c002f6c8 c0103fa0: c002f3d0 c0103fe4 c0103fb4 c0011e58 c002f6a4 000000d0 000003db 00000000 c0103fc0: c016922c c0162aa4 c0162af0 c010498c 4401a119 c00085f8 c0103ffc c0103fe8 c0103fe0: c000a5e0 c0011d88 c01049cc c016922c 00000000 c0104000 c0008080 c000a544 Backtrace: Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] r4 = C016922C Code: e5942004 e06a2002 (e5842004) ea00003e c010b2fc Error (Oops_bfd_perror): /tmp/fileymyZmg Invalid bfd target >>PC; c00307c8 <__free_pages_ok+124/2a4> <===== >>r10; ffffffff Trace; c00306a4 <__free_pages_ok+0/2a4> Trace; c002f4b0 Trace; c002f3c4 Trace; c002f6c8 Trace; c002f698 Trace; c0011e58 Trace; c0011d7c Trace; c000a5e0 Trace; c000a538 Trace; c0008080 <__mmap_switched+0/30> Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task! In swapper task - not syncing 1 warning and 1 error issued. Results may not be reliable. Okay, my ksymoops hack is not completely perfect, but the function addresses can be trusted (I checked them by hand). I don't think __free_pages_ok() is the real source of the oops, I expect the bug to be somewhere in setup.c. LART is a bit special in its memory layout because it doesn't use A23, so we get 4 8MB chunks in two banks. The memory layout is (IIRC): bank 0, chunk 0: 0xc0000000 - 0xc0800000 (8MB) bank 0, chunk 1: 0xc1000000 - 0xc1800000 (8MB) bank 1, chunk 0: 0xc8000000 - 0xc8800000 (8MB) bank 1, chunk 1: 0xc9000000 - 0xc9800000 (8MB) The kernel output shows 2 zones with 2048 pages each, which makes a total of 2 * 2048 * 4 / 1024 = 16MB -- only half of the available memory. I don't know where to start debugging because I don't know how the memory setup is supposed to work. Maybe that you (or Jan-Derk) have a clue? Erik [1] Blob is free, see http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/blob/ [2] Link with libbfd.a and libiberty.a from the cross-compiler binutils, change nm in arm-linux-nm and objdump in arm-linux-objdump and you're set. Sort of. -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 12 23:32:28 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA12231; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:32:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA19200 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:32:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO800JSSUM2L7@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:32:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA26770; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00925; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:25:26 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA24191; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:23:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA24184; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31354; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:23:30 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id OAA08594 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:23:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:09:51 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np5 In-reply-to: <200001122138.WAA11930@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, J.D.Bakker@its.tudelft.nl Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:35:04 +0100 (MET), Erik Mouw wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:07:18 -0500 (EST), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > >> This one should be bootable on a LART too. Tell me guys if it works. > > > > It compiles without problems. I'm going to test it tonight (if I remember > > the root password for the programming PC correctly). > > I got the root password, but linux-2.3.35 doesn't run on LART. Here is the [...] > I don't think __free_pages_ok() is the real source of the oops, I expect > the bug to be somewhere in setup.c. LART is a bit special in its memory > layout because it doesn't use A23, so we get 4 8MB chunks in two banks. > The memory layout is (IIRC): > > bank 0, chunk 0: 0xc0000000 - 0xc0800000 (8MB) > bank 0, chunk 1: 0xc1000000 - 0xc1800000 (8MB) > bank 1, chunk 0: 0xc8000000 - 0xc8800000 (8MB) > bank 1, chunk 1: 0xc9000000 - 0xc9800000 (8MB) In arch/arm/kernel/setup.c, setup_bootmem() [the one with defined(CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM)], the code should find out the first and last page of a given node. This is probably where the bug is. Note that SA1100 banks becomes nodes, and chunks are declared as banks in the code. You should get (0xc1800000-0xc0000000)/4096 pages for each node, but the hole in between will be marked as reserved. You can try commenting out the second memory chunk of each SA1100 bank in arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100, just to see the difference. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 13 04:10:05 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA13824; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 04:10:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA22932 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 04:10:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO9003AG7GR77@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 04:10:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id TAA28028; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:02:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26278; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:00:02 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA24921; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA24916; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:57:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12240; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:57:37 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id SAA27172 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:57:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA15702 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:57:36 -0800 Received: from cs.washington.edu (cs304-12.spmodem.washington.edu [140.142.171.115]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA22745 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:57:35 -0800 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:52:50 -0800 From: Collin K Murphy Subject: problem with linux 2.2.12 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: SA-1100/Linux Reply-to: ckmurphy@cs.washington.edu Message-id: <387D3E02.F2733534@cs.washington.edu> Organization: University of Washington MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en I am trying to upgrade from linux 2.2.2 to 2.2.12 on my brutus board. I had 2.2.2 working (and it still works), but I am unable to get 2.2.12 working. I am using the following patches: diff-2.2.12-rmk1-np12.gz patch-2.2.12-rmk1.gz I issues the 'make brutus_config' and 'make config' commands accepting all defaults and the kernel builds without any errors. When I download to the board, I get no output on the serial line. If I go back and download the 2.2.2 kernel, everything is fine. Am I missing something in the 2.2.12 configuration? Collin From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 13 07:31:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id HAA14792; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:31:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA24390 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:31:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO9005HIGT3Q8@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:31:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id WAA26555; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:25:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16570; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:24:57 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA25451; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA25464; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18948; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:21:52 -0800 Received: from web1204.mail.yahoo.com (web1204.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.140]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id WAA26528 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29205 invoked by uid 60001); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 06:21:06 +0000 Received: from [192.11.222.101] by web1204.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:21:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:21:06 -0800 (PST) From: wolf Subject: Somebody can give me a archive of this mailing list Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000113062106.29204.qmail@web1204.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk Hi, I am a newbie and got a brutus board and want to participating development of arm-linux. I have so many questions. I think I should browse all the old emails before asking. Somebody can give me any hints where to get the archive of this mailing list? Or somebody can email his own archive to me? Your help is appriciated. Thanks in advance. wolf __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 13 09:03:23 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id JAA15417; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:03:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA25330 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:03:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO90082SL1KHM@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:03:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id XAA31005; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09570; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:57:08 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA25731; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:56:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA24386; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:56:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01483; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:56:18 -0800 Received: from mailboy.huawei.com.cn ([202.96.135.134]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id XAA30873 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:56:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from w15060 ([10.11.48.31]) by mailboy.huawei.com.cn (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA3659 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:48:10 +0800 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:52:18 +0800 From: Jun Wu Subject: sa1100-brutus Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <003101bf5d9b$1db3cd20$1f300b0a@w15060.huawei.com.cn> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'm new of sa1100-brutus and sorry my question doesn't concerning linux. I want my application (uHAL demo leds.axf) to be directly booted when brutus power on. I use fmu to download the image to flash. >rom >program 0 boot leds.axf 0 But error occurs. 'ERROR: image base address is in ROM but does not match address of flash block Image base address = 0x80000c0 Expected start of image = 0x??fffc00c0' What' wrong? What should I do? BR Jun From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 13 12:53:48 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id MAA17181; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:53:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA01732 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:53:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO900KQ9VPLOT@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:53:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id DAA24103; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 03:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06722; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 03:47:44 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA26319; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 03:46:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA26299; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 03:46:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02871; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 03:46:29 -0800 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id DAA13018 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 03:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.0.0.67] ident=mail) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 128ijC-0004Ih-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:47:46 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=mail) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 128ihp-0000qG-00; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:46:21 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 128ihp-0006fQ-00; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:46:21 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:46:21 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: Somebody can give me a archive of this mailing list In-reply-to: Message from wolf "of Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:21:06 PST." <20000113062106.29204.qmail@web1204.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: wolf Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <20000113062106.29204.qmail@web1204.mail.yahoo.com> >I think I should browse all the old emails before >asking. Somebody can give me any hints where to get >the archive of this mailing list? Or somebody can >email his own archive to me? Your help is appriciated. Actually, I'm not sure that there is any archive. I could try to get one set up at armlinux.org if this is the case, though of course that wouldn't help with old messages. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 13 14:05:00 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA17635; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:05:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA05090 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:05:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FO90039HZ0963@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:04:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id EAA28010; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 04:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32340; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 04:56:43 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA26529; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 04:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA26532; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 04:55:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24769; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 04:55:44 -0800 Received: from orange.zav.starlab.net (extsrv.starlab.net [195.171.37.194]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id EAA15300 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 04:55:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from downtown.ett.starlab.net (root@[212.8.177.17]) by orange.zav.starlab.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA10652; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:56:04 +0100 Received: from wonderland.ett.starlab.net (wonderland.ett.starlab.net [212.8.177.19]) by downtown.ett.starlab.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA16881; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:55:40 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:55:39 +0100 (CET) From: Ivo Clarysse Subject: Re: Somebody can give me a archive of this mailing list In-reply-to: <20000113062106.29204.qmail@web1204.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: soggie@wonderland.ett.starlab.net To: wolf Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, wolf wrote: > Hi, > > I am a newbie and got a brutus board and want to > participating development of arm-linux. I have so many > questions. > > I think I should browse all the old emails before > asking. Somebody can give me any hints where to get > the archive of this mailing list? Or somebody can > email his own archive to me? Your help is appriciated. I've put my sa1100-linux mailbox available on ftp://ftp.starlab.net/pub/people/soggie/sa1100-linux-30oct98-12jan00.bz2 It contains all sa1100-linux mails from 30 oct 1998 to 12 jan 2000. Ivo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ivo Clarysse TEL +32-2-7400788 FAX +32-2-7429654 Research Scientist Starlab - http://www.starlab.org/ PGP ID: 0x50154325 // A0A0 EDBC 37B2 C574 CC4D F1F0 FF94 04B9 5015 4325 From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 13 16:28:57 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA18549; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:28:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA09480 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:28:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOA00CVT5O5KZ@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:28:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA26675; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:23:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26764; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:23:16 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA26975; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA26939; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18772; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:22:30 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA27462 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:22:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:13:53 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: problem with linux 2.2.12 In-reply-to: <387D3E02.F2733534@cs.washington.edu> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Collin K Murphy Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Please try 2.2.13-rmk2-np14 and see if you get something out of the second serial port. On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Collin K Murphy wrote: > I am trying to upgrade from linux 2.2.2 to 2.2.12 on my brutus board. > > I had 2.2.2 working (and it still works), but I am unable to get 2.2.12 > working. I am using the following patches: > diff-2.2.12-rmk1-np12.gz > patch-2.2.12-rmk1.gz > > I issues the 'make brutus_config' and 'make config' commands accepting all > defaults and the kernel builds without any errors. When I download to the > board, I get no output on the serial line. If I go back and download the > 2.2.2 kernel, everything is fine. > > Am I missing something in the 2.2.12 configuration? > > Collin > From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 13 18:17:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA19139; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:17:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12337 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:17:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOA00JLOAP26M@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:17:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id JAA04751; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32522; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:08:02 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA27257; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:07:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA27276; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:07:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01222; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:07:20 -0800 Received: from nt_server.flatpanels.com (flatpanels.com [207.196.69.66]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id JAA04569 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by flatpanels.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:08:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:08:43 -0500 From: "Saxena, Nikita" Subject: Problems compiling kernel Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: <3134CD6A0FB3D311A45600105AC9863A015580@flatpanels.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Greetings, I'm trying to build the ARM-linux kernel ( 2.0.30 version of the port) for the Brutus board on a pentium/linux machine. While I was able to fix a couple of compiler errors that I came across, I finally get a whole slew of them related to lib.a some of which are as follows: arch/arm/lib/lib.a(traps-armv.o)(.text + 0xf94): undefined reference to '_do bottom_half' arch/arm/lib/lib.a(traps-armv.o)(.text + 0xf94): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 _do bottom_half Does anyone know what this means? Thanks, Nikita From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 13 18:33:05 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA19210; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:33:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12580 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:33:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOA00JO1BF1S5@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:33:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id JAA06590; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:27:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32304; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:27:34 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA27315; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:27:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA27280; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:27:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09338; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:27:14 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id JAA17989 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:27:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:19:34 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Problems compiling kernel In-reply-to: <3134CD6A0FB3D311A45600105AC9863A015580@flatpanels.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "Saxena, Nikita" Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Please look at 2.2.13 or 2.3.35 patches from ftp.cam.org/users/n/nico. They also require RMK patches from ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/source/kernel... (the patch might not be exact). 2.0.30 is quite old and likely to be unsupported. On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Saxena, Nikita wrote: > > Greetings, > > I'm trying to build the ARM-linux kernel ( 2.0.30 version of the port) for > the Brutus board on a pentium/linux machine. While I was able to fix a > couple of compiler errors that I came across, I finally get a whole slew of > them related to lib.a some of which are as follows: > > arch/arm/lib/lib.a(traps-armv.o)(.text + 0xf94): undefined reference to '_do > bottom_half' > > arch/arm/lib/lib.a(traps-armv.o)(.text + 0xf94): relocation truncated to > fit: R_ARM_PC24 _do bottom_half > > Does anyone know what this means? > > Thanks, > Nikita > From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 13 20:05:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA19648; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:05:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA14098 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:05:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOA0005JFOKHX@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:05:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id KAA10500; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:59:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13474; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:59:18 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA27622; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:58:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA27660; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:58:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14005; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:58:39 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id KAA14539 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:58:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:50:46 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Problems compiling kernel In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > Please look at 2.2.13 or 2.3.35 patches from ftp.cam.org/users/n/nico. Sorry, I mean ftp.netwinder.org here... Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 13 20:24:49 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA19757; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:24:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA14477 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:24:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOA000JPGL9HX@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:24:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id LAA15750; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08742; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:19:22 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA27716; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:19:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA27719; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:19:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06138; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:19:07 -0800 Received: from nt_server.flatpanels.com (flatpanels.com [207.196.69.66]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id LAA28770 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by NT_SERVER_2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:20:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:20:34 -0500 From: "Saxena, Nikita" Subject: ARM Linux kernels Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: <3134CD6A0FB3D311A45600105AC9863A015584@NT_SERVER_2> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Hi, Does anyone know where I can find ARM/Linux kernels for the Brutus board 2.2.13 or 2.3.35? Thanks, Nikita From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 13 21:02:39 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA19933; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:02:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA15067 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:02:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOA001LOICCTS@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:02:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id LAA00860; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:57:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04619; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:57:07 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA27821; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA27808; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:56:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23420; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:56:50 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id LAA00730 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:56:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA19880; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:55:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:55:26 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: ARM Linux kernels In-reply-to: <3134CD6A0FB3D311A45600105AC9863A015584@NT_SERVER_2> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nsaxena@flatpanels.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200001131955.UAA19880@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:20:34 -0500, Saxena, Nikita wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find ARM/Linux kernels for the Brutus board > 2.2.13 or 2.3.35? Get linux 2.2.13 and 2.3.35 from your favorite kernel.org mirror. Get Russel King's ArmLinux patches from: ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.2/ ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.3/ Get Nicolas Pitre's SA-1100 patches from: ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ To build a proper SA-1100 kernel, you need a matching set of sources, so for linux 2.3.35 you need: linux-2.3.35.tar.gz + patch-2.3.35-rmk1.gz + diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np5.gz Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 13 21:52:06 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA20167; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:52:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA15864 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:52:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOA003F3KMQOR@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:52:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id MAA05424; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01070; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:46:21 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA28019; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:45:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA28021; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:45:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14084; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:45:46 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id MAA05428 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:45:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA20134; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:44:14 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:44:14 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np5 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, J.D.Bakker@its.tudelft.nl Message-id: <200001132044.VAA20134@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:09:51 -0500 (EST), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: >> bank 0, chunk 0: 0xc0000000 - 0xc0800000 (8MB) >> bank 0, chunk 1: 0xc1000000 - 0xc1800000 (8MB) >> bank 1, chunk 0: 0xc8000000 - 0xc8800000 (8MB) >> bank 1, chunk 1: 0xc9000000 - 0xc9800000 (8MB) > > In arch/arm/kernel/setup.c, setup_bootmem() [the one with > defined(CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM)], the code should find out the first and last > page of a given node. This is probably where the bug is. Note that > SA1100 banks becomes nodes, and chunks are declared as banks in the code. > You should get (0xc1800000-0xc0000000)/4096 pages for each node, but the > hole in between will be marked as reserved. > > You can try commenting out the second memory chunk of each SA1100 bank in > arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100, just to see the difference. That gives exactly the same oops. If I compile with just a single 8MB memory bank (Victor-like setup, mem_desc[] = {{ 0xc0000000, 0x00800000 }};) I get some strange messages: Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel. Linux version 2.3.35-rmk1-np5 (erikm@besson.et.tudelft.nl) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #4 Thu Jan 13 21:09:44 CET 2000 On node 0 totalpages: 00000800 zone(0): 2048 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Calibrating delay loop... 208.08 BogoMIPS Memory: 8MB = 8MB total Memory: 2504KB available (987K code, 416K data, 8K init) So first there is 8MB available (correct: 2048 4k pages), but a split second later, there is only 4MB left. Nicolas, before I start doing double work, do you happen to have a new diff available? Another question: in arch/arm/mm/mm-armv.c, the function create_memmap_holes() seems to be *disabled* for CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM. Shouldn't this function be *enabled* for discontig memory? Erik [going back to printk("Now here\n"); debug mode] -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 13 23:39:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA20621; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:39:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA17566 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:39:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOA00805PLA73@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:39:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA15026; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:33:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31047; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:33:45 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA28283; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA28290; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:32:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18573; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:32:39 -0800 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id OAA31907 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:32:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA04118; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:31:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:31:23 +0100 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Announce: LART interface board schematics available Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: pleb@cse.unsw.edu.au, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Cc: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" , Gabriel Sandberg Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk Hi all, We've released the schematics for the Kitchen Sink Board, which provides our SA-1100 based LART with audio, IDE, PS/2, video and lots more. Have a look at the URL in the .sig . Sincerely, Jan-Derk 'open for suggestions' Bakker. -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 14 02:05:14 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA21094; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:05:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA19409 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:05:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOA00B8VWCND6@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:05:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id QAA26925; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13751; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:56:39 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA28685; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:55:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA28691; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07316; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:55:55 -0800 Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id QAA09489 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:55:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id JAA07525 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:55:50 +0900 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:55:44 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii Subject: Re: Can't compile glibc-2.1.2 In-reply-to: <387E0329.62FE6AE@netwinder.org> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100 mailng list Message-id: <387E741023A.7718HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk References: <387D7AE63AC.679FHIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> <387E0329.62FE6AE@netwinder.org> Thanks everyone. I retry with following specs; - binutils 2.9.5.0.22 - gcc-2.95.2-core with Phil's gcc-2.95.2-diff-991022.gz patch ---- ++ Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD ++ ++ Hiroshi Ishii ++ From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 14 05:04:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA21762; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:04:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA20604 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:04:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOB00EAA4MX1H@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:04:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id TAA04948; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:54:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00602; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:53:57 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA29215; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA29189; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03872; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:53:14 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable235.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.235]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id TAA05143 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA14756; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:46:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:46:12 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np6, was re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np5 In-reply-to: <200001132044.VAA20134@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, J.D.Bakker@its.tudelft.nl Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > So first there is 8MB available (correct: 2048 4k pages), but a split > second later, there is only 4MB left. It's because the initrd memory still grab the second 4mb. > Nicolas, before I start doing double work, do you happen to have a new > diff available? Yep! diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np6 should work finally for LART. But it's hard to tell when you don't have proper hardware to test on. ;-) > Another question: in arch/arm/mm/mm-armv.c, the function > create_memmap_holes() seems to be *disabled* for CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM. > Shouldn't this function be *enabled* for discontig memory? No. Russell used it for discontigous memory, unfortunately the SA1100 physical memory banks are too far apart from each other that the mem_map couldn't even fit in memory in some cases. So I used the NUMA support to do the trick. Eventually that function could be modified to clear mem_map holes inside a single node for LART, but for now you'll only waste a couple memory pages. Let's make it work first. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Jan 15 14:47:05 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA00811; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:47:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKQJXL9KT48WVZEQ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:47:00 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id FAA23659; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 05:43:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17709; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 05:43:34 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA02367; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 05:41:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA02344; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 05:41:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07572; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 05:41:50 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id FAA12904 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 05:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA00782; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:40:31 +0100 (MET) Received: (from erik@localhost) by kalman.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) id OAA05634; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:40:31 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:40:30 +0100 (CET) From: J.A.K.Mouw@ITS.TUDelft.NL (Erik Mouw) Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np6, was re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np5 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG (Nicolas Pitre) Cc: J.A.K.Mouw@ITS.TUDelft.NL, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, J.D.Bakker@ITS.TUDelft.NL Reply-to: J.A.K.Mouw@ITS.TUDelft.NL Message-id: <200001151340.OAA05634@kalman.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > > Nicolas, before I start doing double work, do you happen to have a new > > diff available? > > Yep! diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np6 should work finally for LART. But it's hard to > tell when you don't have proper hardware to test on. ;-) I just tested it: Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel. Linux version 2.3.35-rmk1-np6 (erik@zaphod) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #1 Sat Jan 15 02:03:56 CET 2000 On node 0 totalpages: 00001800 zone(0): 6144 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. On node 1 totalpages: 00001800 zone(0): 6144 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Calibrating delay loop... 208.08 BogoMIPS Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000014 6144 pages per node makes a total of 48 MB, while there is only 32MB available. I haven't yet diffed your diffs to get a clue, maybe I'll find some time to do it this weekend. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Jan 15 18:35:45 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA01583; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 18:35:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKQRX37C8C8Y4X39@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 18:35:41 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id JAA32381; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:32:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10515; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:32:18 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA02961; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:31:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA02968; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09763; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:31:30 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable235.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.235] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id JAA24000 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:31:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16290; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:26:28 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:26:28 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np6, was re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np5 In-reply-to: <200001151340.OAA05634@kalman.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: J.A.K.Mouw@ITS.TUDelft.NL Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, J.D.Bakker@ITS.TUDelft.NL Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > Yep! diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np6 should work finally for LART. But it's hard to > > tell when you don't have proper hardware to test on. ;-) > > I just tested it: > > Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel. > Linux version 2.3.35-rmk1-np6 (erik@zaphod) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #1 Sat Jan 15 02:03:56 CET 2000 > On node 0 totalpages: 00001800 > zone(0): 6144 pages. > zone(1): 0 pages. > zone(2): 0 pages. > On node 1 totalpages: 00001800 > zone(0): 6144 pages. > zone(1): 0 pages. > zone(2): 0 pages. > Calibrating delay loop... 208.08 BogoMIPS > Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000014 > > 6144 pages per node makes a total of 48 MB, while there is only 32MB > available. I haven't yet diffed your diffs to get a clue, maybe I'll > find some time to do it this weekend. This is OK since you have a 8 mb hole in each node, which is not accounted here. The number of pages shown is 0xc2800000 - 0xc0000000, while the hole in the middle is marked as reserved thus not being used. So this time the cound is good. Unfortunately I can't help you further since I don't have similar enough hardware to yours. Maybe if you provide the backtrace I might think of something though... Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Jan 16 10:54:41 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA04851; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:54:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKRQ4UQWLO8Y4X3P@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:54:39 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id BAA18605; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30891; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:51:23 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA05605; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA05579; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11657; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:50:37 -0800 Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id BAA31688 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:50:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from neuromancer.anarcho.net (dial11-160.netcologne.de [195.14.233.160]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26372; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:47:10 +0100 (MET) Received: (from xgxttre@localhost) by neuromancer.anarcho.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14268; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:48:38 +0100 X-URL: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:48:36 +0100 From: Thomas Renard Subject: Re: Announce: LART schematics In-reply-to: Erik Mouw's message of "Wed, 3 Nov 99 23:26:15 +0100" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, pleb@cse.unsw.edu.au Message-id: Organization: The Anarcho Net MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk X-Face: 43Gd&$n()k_953x*S*S$KvhoZ5HRR+\?HpR1~dG@&6B[/EKmoE.5mYc3v#`Ahf[{ekw}SL9 g|pT#VQ8a.~3xURG\j?G@roW>lq*V323P[~3fZu6.~DxATbN&IGSABZ*aQ*:1XPF-i[m"h.z&S[k3J a[.Rfdjk9(?uQ$CQ=-& User-Agent: Gnus/5.070097 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.97) XEmacs/21.1 (Bryce Canyon) Lines: 8 References: <9911032226.AA27234@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Hi Erik, maybe there is something wrong with the dns-resolving of tudelft.nl! It cannot be resolved. Is there some fixup? Thomas From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Jan 16 16:10:05 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA05888; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:10:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKRX9L4E6C8WW0MS@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:19:22 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id FAA23840; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 05:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06601; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 05:16:00 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA06195; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 05:15:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA06187; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 05:15:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28014; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 05:15:21 -0800 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id FAA22788 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 05:15:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.161.115.44] (jdbakker.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.115.44]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA11371; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:15:09 +0100 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:14:59 +0100 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: Announce: LART schematics In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Thomas Renard Cc: Erik Mouw , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk References: "Erik Mouw's message of Wed, 3 Nov 99 23:26:15 +0100" <9911032226.AA27234@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> At 10:48 +0100 16-01-2000, Thomas Renard wrote: >Hi Erik, > >maybe there is something wrong with the dns-resolving of tudelft.nl! >It cannot be resolved. That's odd; from my end, I can't seem to contact http://www.netcologne.de/~nc-renardth/ . Hmmmm... Try http://130.161.42.2/~erik/open-source/LART/ JDB. -- "I think the US Government has been going about this all wrong. It's not the DoJ that needs to investigate Microsoft; this is a job for the DEA." -- Anthony DeBoer in the Scary Devil Monastery From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Jan 16 16:11:46 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA05923; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:11:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKRYXT94Q68WW0MS@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:07:06 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id GAA06128; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05372; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:04:02 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA06356; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA06307; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:02:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AB24002; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:02:58 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id GAA25326 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA05611; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:01:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (from erik@localhost) by kalman.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) id PAA24653; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:01:23 +0100 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:01:23 +0100 (CET) From: J.A.K.Mouw@ITS.TUDelft.NL (Erik Mouw) Subject: Re: Announce: LART schematics In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Thomas.Renard@smail.uni-koeln.de (Thomas Renard) Cc: J.A.K.Mouw@ITS.TUDelft.NL, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, pleb@cse.unsw.edu.au Reply-to: J.A.K.Mouw@ITS.TUDelft.NL Message-id: <200001161401.PAA24653@kalman.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! > maybe there is something wrong with the dns-resolving of tudelft.nl! > It cannot be resolved. I think it is a problem at your site because >30 people from all over the world were able to download it. > Is there some fixup? Of course: try http://130.161.42.2/~erik/open-source/LART/ Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 18 23:53:50 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA24648; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:53:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKV9WHQWDM8Y4YPN@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:53:44 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id OAA02575; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09267; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:50:23 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA01538; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:48:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA01534; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:48:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14019; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:48:04 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id OAA00764 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA24618; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:46:29 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:46:29 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np6 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, J.D.Bakker@ITS.TUDelft.NL Message-id: <200001182246.XAA24618@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:26:28 -0500 (EST), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: >> Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel. >> Linux version 2.3.35-rmk1-np6 (erik@zaphod) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #1 Sat Jan 15 02:03:56 CET 2000 >> On node 0 totalpages: 00001800 >> zone(0): 6144 pages. >> zone(1): 0 pages. >> zone(2): 0 pages. >> On node 1 totalpages: 00001800 >> zone(0): 6144 pages. >> zone(1): 0 pages. >> zone(2): 0 pages. >> Calibrating delay loop... 208.08 BogoMIPS >> Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000014 >> >> 6144 pages per node makes a total of 48 MB, while there is only 32MB >> available. I haven't yet diffed your diffs to get a clue, maybe I'll >> find some time to do it this weekend. > > This is OK since you have a 8 mb hole in each node, which is not accounted > here. The number of pages shown is 0xc2800000 - 0xc0000000, while the > hole in the middle is marked as reserved thus not being used. So this > time the cound is good. We just found out that I tested the stuff on a LART with flakey hardware, because the board also fails to run known good kernel+ramdisk combinations :-(. The good news is that linux-2.3.35-rmk1-np6 works on LART, and that we have the correct amount of memory (8M 8M 8M 8M in the boot messages). There are however some minor issues: - getty sometimes locks the complete system: we can only type "roo" (without the quotes, of course) as username, after that the system locks. - LART with linux-2.3.35 draws approximately *ten* times as much as power than linux-2.2.12. It looks like the CPU doesn't hlt in the idle loop, but it can also be a bug in the LCD code. We have to look into this. Can somebody check this out with Brutus? The getty issue might be a bug in the serial driver, but it can also be related to the higher power consumption. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 19 02:59:48 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA25531; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 02:59:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKVGF30OFC8Y4YQU@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 02:59:44 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id RAA20616; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11583; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:54:53 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA01591; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:54:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA01587; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22122; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:54:06 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id RAA17943 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:54:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29921; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:50:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:50:14 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np6 In-reply-to: <200001182246.XAA24618@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, J.D.Bakker@ITS.TUDelft.NL Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1463811582-127292550-948246614=:29912" Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1463811582-127292550-948246614=:29912 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > We just found out that I tested the stuff on a LART with flakey hardware, > because the board also fails to run known good kernel+ramdisk > combinations :-(. > > The good news is that linux-2.3.35-rmk1-np6 works on LART, and that we > have the correct amount of memory (8M 8M 8M 8M in the boot messages). > > There are however some minor issues: > > - getty sometimes locks the complete system: we can only type "roo" > (without the quotes, of course) as username, after that the system locks. This is strange. The serial port is my primary console access and everything seems fine. > - LART with linux-2.3.35 draws approximately *ten* times as much as power > than linux-2.2.12. It looks like the CPU doesn't hlt in the idle loop, > but it can also be a bug in the LCD code. We have to look into this. Can > somebody check this out with Brutus? I don't have proper equipment here to see power consumption... however I expect the attached patch might help. Please try this and tell me if it does the trick. It should be applied over 2.3.35-rmk1-np6. 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But it's hard to > tell when you don't have proper hardware to test on. ;-) diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np6 works with the FEATHER board as well (tested with 2 banks of 16MB DRAM). Ivo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ivo Clarysse TEL +32-2-7400788 FAX +32-2-7429654 Research Scientist Starlab - http://www.starlab.org/ PGP ID: 0x50154325 // A0A0 EDBC 37B2 C574 CC4D F1F0 FF94 04B9 5015 4325 From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 19 21:06:46 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA01505; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:06:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JKWIDOWKKC934S0M@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:06:42 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id MAA22321; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:03:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12316; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:03:25 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA00662; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA00658; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05436; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:02:10 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id MAA20941 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA01492; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:00:50 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:00:50 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np6 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, J.D.Bakker@ITS.TUDelft.NL Message-id: <200001192000.VAA01492@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:50:14 -0500 (EST), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: >> - LART with linux-2.3.35 draws approximately *ten* times as much as power >> than linux-2.2.12. It looks like the CPU doesn't hlt in the idle loop, >> but it can also be a bug in the LCD code. We have to look into this. Can >> somebody check this out with Brutus? > > I don't have proper equipment here to see power consumption... however I > expect the attached patch might help. Please try this and tell me if it > does the trick. It should be applied over 2.3.35-rmk1-np6. It didn't apply cleanly, but never mind, it was small enough to do it by hand. The power consumption is back at the normal rate: 40mA @ 4.5V. Thanks, Erik -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jan 24 07:23:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id HAA04423; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:23:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL2P35GHPQ934ZMF@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:23:49 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id WAA12118; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22237; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:17:41 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA02847; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA02843; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23439; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:15:35 -0800 Received: from web1205.mail.yahoo.com (web1205.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.141]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id WAA11985 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1905 invoked by uid 60001); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 06:14:50 +0000 Received: from [192.11.226.102] by web1205.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:14:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:14:50 -0800 (PST) From: wolf Subject: How to speed up download Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000124061450.1904.qmail@web1205.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk Hi, I use sa-1100 brutus. But every time I use angelboot to download kernel and ramdisk to the board, a long time to wait. My opts file's content is as follows: base 0x8000 entry 0xc0008000 device /dev/ttyS0 options "9600 8N1" baud 115200 otherfile ramdisk.gz otherbase 0x800000 When I use SDT , the download speed can be tuned. So, I think under linux , it also can be accelerated. But how? TIA wolf __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jan 24 17:03:16 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA08637; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:03:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL39BD0THY9350U6@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:03:04 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA24652; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:58:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08633; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:58:09 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA03013; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:57:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA03009; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:57:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13008; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:57:08 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA13557 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:57:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA08571; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:55:48 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:55:48 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: How to speed up download In-reply-to: <20000124061450.1904.qmail@web1205.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: armlinux@yahoo.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200001241555.QAA08571@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:14:50 -0800 (PST), wolf wrote: > I use sa-1100 brutus. But every time I use angelboot > to download kernel and ramdisk to the board, a long > time to wait. My opts file's content is as follows: > > base 0x8000 > entry 0xc0008000 > device /dev/ttyS0 > options "9600 8N1" > baud 115200 > otherfile ramdisk.gz > otherbase 0x800000 > > When I use SDT , the download speed can be tuned. So, > I think under linux , it also can be accelerated. But > how? You can't go faster. 115k2 is the maximum serial speed. Erik PS: please don't crosspost between linux-arm and sa1100-linux -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jan 24 18:22:35 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA09017; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:22:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL3C2OPM7O93511S@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:21:35 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id JAA00357; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12751; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:17:14 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA03050; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:16:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA03043; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28647; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:16:53 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id JAA32421 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:16:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:05:41 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: How to speed up download In-reply-to: <200001241555.QAA08571@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: armlinux@yahoo.com, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:14:50 -0800 (PST), wolf wrote: > > I use sa-1100 brutus. But every time I use angelboot > > to download kernel and ramdisk to the board, a long > > time to wait. My opts file's content is as follows: > > [...] > > > > When I use SDT , the download speed can be tuned. So, > > I think under linux , it also can be accelerated. But > > how? It is already tuned to the maximum which is 115200 bauds for normal PC hardware. However the SA1100 can run up to 230400 bauds which is possible if you can stick a fast serial board in your PC. Also you can try this if you use 2.3.x: - search for the free_initrd_mem() function in arch/arm/mm/init.c and put a "return" right at the beginning; - load the ramdisk as usual; - if you have to reboot, do it with the reset switch, don't power your board off; - now on you don't have to load the ramdisk with subsequent kernel loads (you can comment out the "otherfile" and "otherbase" lines in your opts file. This way, the original ramdisk image always stay in memory. This is a great time saver, but you loose about 3 megs of available RAM (shouldn't be a big deal over 16 megs). Probably the same hack can be done with 2.0.x too. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jan 24 22:44:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA10116; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:44:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL3L8PX2289350DP@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:44:30 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id NAA13517; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:39:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16343; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:39:21 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA03187; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:38:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA03183; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:38:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13203; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:38:37 -0800 Received: from eising.k-net.dk (eising.k-net.dtu.dk [130.225.71.227]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id NAA17405 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:38:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from obelix.vkr.k-net.dk (obelix.vkr.k-net.dk [192.38.209.3]) by eising.k-net.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78E8918A2 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:38:15 +0100 (CET) Received: by obelix.vkr.k-net.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:37:51 +0100 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:37:51 +0100 From: Anders Frederiksen Subject: RE: How to speed up download Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk [cut!] > It is already tuned to the maximum which is 115200 bauds for normal PC > hardware. However the SA1100 can run up to 230400 bauds > which is possible > if you can stick a fast serial board in your PC. [cut!] Has nobody got angel running on USB. As totally green (just got a Brutus fired up this week) I'd expect to find that allready done - or at least possible without massive problems? Best Regards, Anders Frederiksen PS: Expect some "stupid" questions in the near future when I'm getting problems with toolchains and linux-kernel... By the way: Is there something like a "Real Time Linux"? From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 25 16:23:15 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA15827; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:23:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL4M85OCG4935197@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:23:09 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA17820; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:19:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08418; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:18:56 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA03546; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:17:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA03530; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:17:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18327; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:17:20 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA09632 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:17:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:09:21 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.2.14-rmk3-np15 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk ... is now on ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. This patch only brings SA1100 support to 2.2.14, nothing new. Despite the changes made by Russell in 2.2.14-rmk3 to be more gcc-2.95.x friendly, it still isn't stable if compiled with gcc-2.95.2. I've been able to get into a shell, but processes get random segfaults in kernel mode if you play around, which doesn't happen if the kernel is compiled with egcs. (Philip: do you have any clue?) If you want to use gcc-2.95.x, you should go with 2.3.35-rmk1-np6 for now. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 25 16:40:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA15938; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:40:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL4MTMLWIM94DOAQ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:40:24 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA13326; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:36:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21860; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:36:18 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA03560; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:36:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA03562; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26074; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:35:57 -0800 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA20783 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:35:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.0.0.67]) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D81p-0005ya-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 15:37:13 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D80L-00052h-00; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 15:35:41 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D80L-0002vf-00; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 15:35:41 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 15:35:41 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: diff-2.2.14-rmk3-np15 In-reply-to: Message from Nicolas Pitre "of Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:09:21 EST." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: >Despite the changes made by Russell in 2.2.14-rmk3 to be more gcc-2.95.x >friendly, it still isn't stable if compiled with gcc-2.95.2. I've been >able to get into a shell, but processes get random segfaults in kernel >mode if you play around, which doesn't happen if the kernel is compiled >with egcs. (Philip: do you have any clue?) Do you know what changes Russell made? As far as I know, you just need -fno-strict-aliasing and either -ffixed-r10 or a small patch to the context switch code. You could try using the 2.2 code from CVS; we routinely build that with gcc 2.95 and have no problems. I imagine your patches should apply fairly cleanly to it. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 25 16:54:53 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA16012; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:54:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA19779 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:54:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOW00AQ1EV91P@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:54:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA22340; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:47:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02414; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:47:50 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA03572; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA03574; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:47:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15523; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:47:35 -0800 Received: from web1203.mail.yahoo.com (web1203.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.139]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA14355 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:47:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1114 invoked by uid 60001); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 15:45:02 +0000 Received: from [202.106.6.18] by web1203.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:45:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:45:02 -0800 (PST) From: wolf Subject: Re: diff-2.2.14-rmk3-np15 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip Blundell Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000125154502.1113.qmail@web1203.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk Hi, philip Thanks for many help I got from you and sorry to bother you again. How and where can I get code from CVS ? wolf > > You could try using the 2.2 code from CVS; we > routinely build that with gcc __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 25 17:08:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA16095; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:08:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA20250 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:08:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOW00BJLFIM46@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:08:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id IAA16183; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27098; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:01:58 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03603; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03596; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11937; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:01:36 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id IAA14854 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:01:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:53:13 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: diff-2.2.14-rmk3-np15 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip Blundell Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Philip Blundell wrote: > >Despite the changes made by Russell in 2.2.14-rmk3 to be more gcc-2.95.x > >friendly, it still isn't stable if compiled with gcc-2.95.2. I've been > >able to get into a shell, but processes get random segfaults in kernel > >mode if you play around, which doesn't happen if the kernel is compiled > >with egcs. (Philip: do you have any clue?) > > Do you know what changes Russell made? As far as I know, you just need > -fno-strict-aliasing and either -ffixed-r10 or a small patch to the context > switch code. R10 is now saved between context switches in 2.2.14-rmk3. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 25 17:03:45 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA16064; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:03:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA20110 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:03:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOW00BFQFA1V7@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:03:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id HAA23080; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:56:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27458; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:56:24 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA03592; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA03583; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27867; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:56:05 -0800 Received: from mailgate.keith-koep.com (mailgate.keith-koep.com [195.8.230.32]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id HAA23313 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from otto (otto [195.8.230.40]) by mailgate.keith-koep.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA04011 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:00:30 +0100 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:55:41 +0100 (MET) From: keith Subject: diff-2.2.14-rmk3-np15 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: keith Message-id: <200001251600.RAA04011@mailgate.keith-koep.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: CpFB0YlsHBMo4Pasz9/k2A== Precedence: bulk Hi Nico, using the old kernel and my old gcc (arm-coff, strange but this was the only cross compiler i got to work for the 2.0.30 using solaris, long time ago) i found out that the r10 register was NOT saved across context swaps. I guess the 2.2 did not change this and the problem may be that the new compiler may perhaps use this register. (My coff compiler did, and my problems were solved saving this register across the context switch) Volker _________________________________________________________________ | | | KEITH & KOEP GMBH DEVELOPMENT OF EMBEDDED CONTROL SYSTEMS | | KOENIGSBERGER STR.2 PHONE +49 (0)202 2525 30 | | D-42277 WUPPERTAL FAX +49 (0)202 2525 333 | | GERMANY keith@keith-koep.com | |_________________________________________________________________| From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 25 17:08:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA16099; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:08:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA20254 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:08:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOW00BIJFIOV7@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:08:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id IAA12560; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05973; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:02:05 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03618; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:01:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03614; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:01:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10045; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:01:51 -0800 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id IAA22849 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:01:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.0.0.67] ident=mail) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D8Qx-0005zP-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:03:11 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=mail) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D8PT-0005C9-00; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:01:39 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D8PT-000372-00; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:01:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:01:39 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: diff-2.2.14-rmk3-np15 In-reply-to: Message from wolf "of Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:45:02 PST." <20000125154502.1113.qmail@web1203.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: wolf Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <20000125154502.1113.qmail@web1203.mail.yahoo.com> >How and where can I get code from CVS ? The CVS tree is hosted at netwinder.org. If you are a registered developer, see the web pages for details. Otherwise, you can get daily snapshots from . p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 25 17:19:33 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA16160; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:19:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA20539 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:19:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOW00BQWG0CV7@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:19:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id IAA16256; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18596; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:05:18 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03649; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03641; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18853; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:05:04 -0800 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id IAA23566 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:04:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.0.0.67] ident=mail) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D8Tp-0005zT-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:06:09 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=mail) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D8SO-0005DF-00; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:04:40 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D8SO-00038i-00; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:04:40 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:04:39 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: diff-2.2.14-rmk3-np15 In-reply-to: Message from Nicolas Pitre "of Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:53:13 EST." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: >> Do you know what changes Russell made? As far as I know, you just need >> -fno-strict-aliasing and either -ffixed-r10 or a small patch to the context >> switch code. > >R10 is now saved between context switches in 2.2.14-rmk3. And -fno-strict-aliasing? If that is also in already, I guess it's possible that there is some bug in the SA1100 code itself, or that something about that code is tickling a GCC problem. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 25 17:12:25 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA16124; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:12:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA20357 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:12:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FOW00C5YFODUO@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:12:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id IAA22342; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:04:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02749; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:04:51 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03637; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03633; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:04:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10741; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:04:38 -0800 Received: from hw-mail.hoeft-wessel.de (pec-23-218.tnt2.h.uunet.de [149.225.23.218]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id IAA23652 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:04:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by HW_MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:07:50 +0100 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:07:50 +0100 From: "JOR. - Jordan, Roman" Subject: gdb Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: <81413F587EB9D1118F56000092941A3EA78C0E@HW_MAIL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hi all, where can i get the gdb patch for arm-linux-elf. Thanks in advance, Roman From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 25 17:57:23 2000 Return-Path: Received: from TUDEDU.ET.TUDelft.NL by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA16412; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:57:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL4P5WFTM493539W@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:47:35 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id IAA18626; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:41:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03869; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:41:01 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03643; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:40:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03656; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30345; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:40:38 -0800 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id IAA20287 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.0.0.67]) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D92a-00060A-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:42:04 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=mail) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D914-0005P9-00; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:40:30 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D913-0003Ok-00; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:40:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:40:29 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: gdb In-reply-to: "Message from JOR. - Jordan, Roman" "of Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:07:50 +0100." <81413F587EB9D1118F56000092941A3EA78C0E@HW_MAIL> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "JOR. - Jordan, Roman" Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <81413F587EB9D1118F56000092941A3EA78C0E@HW_MAIL> >where can i get the gdb patch for arm-linux-elf. Just get the latest snapshot from sourceware. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jan 25 17:57:20 2000 Return-Path: Received: from TUDEDU.ET.TUDelft.NL by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA16409; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:57:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL4P5F0ACW93539W@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:47:12 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id IAA19149; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15625; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:42:48 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03666; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:42:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03668; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01566; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:42:34 -0800 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id IAA28275 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.0.0.67]) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D94S-00060E-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:44:00 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=mail) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D92x-0005PW-00; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:42:27 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12D92x-0003PL-00; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:42:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:42:26 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: diff-2.2.14-rmk3-np15 In-reply-to: Message from keith "of Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:55:41 +0100." <200001251600.RAA04011@mailgate.keith-koep.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: keith Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <200001251600.RAA04011@mailgate.keith-koep.com> >i found out that the r10 register was NOT saved across context swaps. >I guess the 2.2 did not change this and the problem may be >that the new compiler may perhaps use this register. (My coff compiler >did, and my problems were solved saving this register across the context >switch) Yes, that's certainly one of the problems. The newer compilers will use R10 and/or R11 as general registers if they are not required for their "fixed" purposes. But apparently this is corrected in 2.2.14-rmk3. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 26 09:13:59 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id JAA19653; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:06:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL5L8V1AC895MMW8@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:06:13 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id AAA32533; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:02:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19029; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:02:28 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA03993; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:01:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA03988; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:01:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32144; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:01:00 -0800 Received: from cwcsun41.cwc.nus.edu.sg (cwcsun41.cwc.nus.edu.sg [137.132.163.102]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id AAA32235 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from catbert.cwc.nus.edu.sg ([137.132.163.120]) by cwcsun41.cwc.nus.edu.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23302 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:56:53 +0800 (SGT) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:04:59 +0800 (SGT) From: amlan@geektown.net Subject: PCMCIA patch for Brutus. Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: amlan@catbert.cwc.nus.edu.sg To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: a.saha@acm.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Phone: +65.8709.265 (O) +65.468.8157 (H) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all We have put together a small patch to enable the standard pcmcia package to run on the Brutus board. The current patch is meant for version 3.0.13 of the pcmcia distribution. While the card manager and associated functions have been ported fully, only two specific card drivers are working - Lucent's WAVELAN (802.11) and the ATA flash drivers. You can download the source(patch) from ftp://dilbert.cwc.nus.edu.sg/pub/delphipad/ - -Amlan Saha Centre for Wireless Communications National University of Singapore -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Comment: . Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOI6qr5e0cErdTwklAQHHlwP+KVT6tUYrk5K30HDkzlsX+7ijlAzzy9F1 5me3DsSX7E1ERqIN+ctgXUpHmwp54B5FdvtbdJD8ps0qHSyAASDzKljf79j22m54 6iwchgjxWwtppFR40Df9l1fk4CPRY3xbQ34XWBeLKQ+TWYSB6opGWydOOM9EjcKq IOHQaSL6yqQ= =I9vL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 26 19:23:37 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA01127; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:23:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL66T9P5FK984ITR@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:23:33 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id KAA04395; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13240; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:19:57 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA04188; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA04185; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06196; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:15:23 -0800 Received: from smtp2.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP2.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.82]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id KAA11321 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from unix10.andrew.cmu.edu (UNIX10.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.15.14]) by smtp2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA05636 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:11:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:11:59 -0500 (EST) From: John G Dorsey Subject: More PCMCIA! Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: John G Dorsey Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Hello, It would seem that my thunder has been stolen, but perhaps this is still of interest: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~wearable/software/ The patch is against Card Services for Linux version 3.1.8, and works on the Itsy. We're running WaveLAN/IEEE devices using the full Lucent driver (not hcf-light), which required no code changes for use with the StrongARM. Please note that this code is _not_ the same as that released by Amlan Saha. In particular, a fair amount of attention has been paid to the configuration interface, in the hopes that the socket driver module will (eventually) work on a variety of boards. I wasn't planning to release this until I had confirmation that the code worked on Brutus and kernel 2.3, but today's earlier announcement seemed significant. =) Congratulations to the folks at the National University of Singapore for getting up and running! -jd From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jan 26 20:02:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA01272; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 20:02:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL686X6M6O99DH2K@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 20:02:51 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id LAA08263; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09095; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:59:58 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA04234; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:56:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA04225; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06846; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:56:47 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with ESMTP id KAA07356 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:56:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:48:47 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: More PCMCIA! In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: John G Dorsey Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, John G Dorsey wrote: [...] > Please note that this code is _not_ the same as that released by Amlan > Saha. In particular, a fair amount of attention has been paid to the > configuration interface, in the hopes that the socket driver module will > (eventually) work on a variety of boards. > > I wasn't planning to release this until I had confirmation that the code > worked on Brutus and kernel 2.3, but today's earlier announcement seemed > significant. =) Congratulations to the folks at the National University > of Singapore for getting up and running! Unfortunately, I won't be able to play with PCMCIA code for some time... There is simply too many things to do and so little time for me currently... since I've also been given a ThinClient to port Linux to ... and I'm leaving for vacation on Friday for two weeks. So if anybody feel like playing with any of those PCMCIA work, I'll be glad to receive any patch against 2.3.x. ;-) Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 27 09:06:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedv.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id JAA04094; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:06:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL6V3SOR24984IXG@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:59:14 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id VAA32128; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10063; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:53:45 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA04495; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:50:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA04487; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:50:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01760; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:50:31 -0800 Received: from web1205.mail.yahoo.com (web1205.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.141]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/WV2.0g) with SMTP id VAA24590 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:50:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 662 invoked by uid 60001); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 05:49:42 +0000 Received: from [192.11.226.101] by web1205.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:49:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:49:42 -0800 (PST) From: wolf Subject: Where to get ramdisk for X Window Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000127054942.661.qmail@web1205.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk Hi, I want to run X Window on brutus. Since X Window is large , I think maybe I need a large ramdisk to contain it and some configure files or other supported files. Somebody can give me some hints or a test suite for it? Your help is highly appreciated. wolf __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 27 18:09:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA02004; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:09:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL7IJ3RWCW9AMEYR@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:09:48 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA12544; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:06:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32423; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:05:28 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA04677; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA04681; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:01:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26108; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:01:28 -0800 Received: from web1204.mail.yahoo.com (web1204.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.140]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA08769 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:01:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7235 invoked by uid 60001); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:47:01 +0000 Received: from [202.106.4.84] by web1204.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:47:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:47:01 -0800 (PST) From: wolf Subject: How to build X using cross development tool chain Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: philip.blundell@pobox.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, france@crl.dec.com Message-id: <20000127164701.7234.qmail@web1204.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk Hi,Philip >philip wrote >Yes. See the Debian, Titan and NetWinder >distributions, for example. People >are using XF86_FBDev at least on SA1100 platforms, and >both XF86_FBDev and >XF86_SVGA on various SA110 machines. >>george wrote: >>ftp.nw.carleton.ca >>/pub/winder/ >>then into the titan directory. >>Yu will find Xwindows already ported to the Strongarm >>bins and source. I got X window package from Titan's ftp site. But all the configuration files seems to be designed for being built based on Titan platform. How can I do a successful build using my cross development tool chain based on redhat PC? I ever tried to modify every configuration files myself. But soon I got confused, it seems I need the native gcc(and ld, libc...) and cross tools arm-linux-gcc(arm-linux-ld, arm-linux-glibc...) working together simultaneouly. BTW , what is Titan , where to get some general information about it? wolf __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jan 27 22:19:19 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA03009; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:19:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL7R8EEVII9AMFU5@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:19:15 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA32419; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10373; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:14:18 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA04767; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:09:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA04757; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09754; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:09:44 -0800 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA29931 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:09:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 12DwAO-0001Nt-00; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:09:24 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:09:24 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: How to build X using cross development tool chain In-reply-to: Message from wolf "of Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:47:01 PST." <20000127164701.7234.qmail@web1204.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: wolf Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, france@crl.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <20000127164701.7234.qmail@web1204.mail.yahoo.com> >I got X window package from Titan's ftp site. But all >the configuration files seems to be designed for being >built based on Titan platform. How can I do a >successful build using my cross development tool chain >based on redhat PC? Cross-building X would probably be astonishingly hard. To be honest, you will probably be better off buying a NetWinder or some other ARM-based machine that is capable of self hosting. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 28 00:25:20 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA03410; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:25:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL7VMPR14A9D4B5Q@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:25:17 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA06946; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:22:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19476; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:22:12 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA04820; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA04809; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:18:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23932; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:18:39 -0800 Received: from nt_server.flatpanels.com (flatpanels.com [207.196.69.66]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA09351 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by flatpanels.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:20:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:20:06 -0500 From: "Saxena, Nikita" Subject: Problems building cross-compiler for arm-linux Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <3134CD6A0FB3D311A45600105AC9863A0155A7@flatpanels.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to build an arm-linux cross compiler and have been following Chris Rutters pages i.e. Building the GNU Toolchain for ARM targets and got as far as putting in the -Dinhibit hack when making the compiler. However, it comes back with the following message, when I do make LANGUAGES="c" : libgcc1.S: 438: asm/unistd.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [libgcc1 - asm.a] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/local/build/gcc/gcc' It appears it can't find unistd.h because as per the document only the /include/asm-arm and /include/linux kernel headers were copied to /usr/arm-linux/include. Is there a way around this? Thanks, Nikita From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 28 02:18:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA03774; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 02:18:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL7ZKHZI7G9AMGEW@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 02:18:03 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA15728; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:13:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11709; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:13:50 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA04865; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:10:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA04868; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05752; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:10:23 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA18398 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:10:20 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:38:27 +1100 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:38:26 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Cache Write Back Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk I have a question about the Data Cache write back behaviour. Are the Page Table permissions check when a dirty DCache line gets written to the Write Buffer? Or is only the translation checked? The example is as follows. Lets say I have a dirty cache line who's current TLB entry is set domain 'A' then lets say we change the domain access register so domain 'A' is NO_ACCESS and domain 'B' is CLIENT then the dirty cache line in question gets replaced. Since the DCache is fully virtual it checks the TLB entry for the physical address to tag the entry with in the Write Buffer, will it: 1. Check permissions as well and therefore generate a domain fault 2. Not check permissions and happily move the dirty line to the Write Buffer Any idea's welcome, but please let me know if you know exactly the behaviour of the chip. Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 28 04:54:49 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA04307; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:54:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL851RB8CI9AMGL6@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:54:47 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA27770; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:46:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04005; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:46:51 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA04917; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:43:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA04804; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04754; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:43:26 -0800 Received: from web1202.mail.yahoo.com (web1202.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.138]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA20826 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16911 invoked by uid 60001); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 03:42:36 +0000 Received: from [192.11.226.102] by web1202.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:42:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:42:36 -0800 (PST) From: wolf Subject: RE: How to build X using cross development tool chain Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: George France Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000128034236.16910.qmail@web1202.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk Hi,George Thanks for your reply. --- George France wrote: > Hello wolf; > > I am not certain which shell or tool chain you are > using. If you are using > the bash shell then: > CC=arm-linux-gcc make > or > CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure ... > make I use bash. I am building XFree86-3.3.3.1 with arm patch. It seems two compilers(native and cross) are both used. For example, Imake will be built by native gcc compiler to run on the host to creat subsequent Makefiles , on the other hand , X should be compiled by arm-linux-gcc. > I hope this helps. If you need more info, please, > inform us as to the type > of development system (host), the ARM hardware you > are using (target) and > what you are trying to develop (enlightenment, fw, > x86, gnome, KDE etc...). yes, I need more info. My host is x86 pc installed with red hat 6.1 . Target is sa1100-brutus. I am trying to develop GUI application under X , I initially plan that gnome is prefered. I use the tool chain which was set up by following the instructions given by chris rutter at http://inkvine.fluff.org/~chris/arm-tools.html It is a cross development tool not a native tool. it works well when building linux kernel-2.3.35 and general c program for brutus. My toolchain consists of binutils-2.9.5.0.14(target name is arm-linux), gcc-2.95.1 applied arm patches, glibc-2.1.2(arm binary). All the cross tools name are prefixed by arm-linux-. For example arm-linux-gcc, arm-linux-ld. The path of cross tools is /usr/local/arm/bin and the path of arm glibc is /usr/loca/arm/arm-linux. Thanks in advance. wolf __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 28 10:22:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA05954; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:22:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL8GHN1OWU9AMGWX@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:22:10 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA13651; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30937; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:18:01 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA05090; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:14:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA05080; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:14:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02636; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:14:20 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id BAA14016 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:14:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA05825; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:13:00 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:13:00 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: Problems building cross-compiler for arm-linux In-reply-to: <3134CD6A0FB3D311A45600105AC9863A0155A7@flatpanels.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nsaxena@flatpanels.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200001280913.KAA05825@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:20:06 -0500, Saxena, Nikita wrote: > I'm trying to build an arm-linux cross compiler and have been following > Chris Rutters pages i.e. Building the GNU Toolchain for ARM targets and got > as far as putting in the -Dinhibit hack when making the compiler. However, > it comes back with the following message, when I do make LANGUAGES="c" : > > libgcc1.S: 438: asm/unistd.h: No such file or directory > make[1]: *** [libgcc1 - asm.a] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/local/build/gcc/gcc' > > It appears it can't find unistd.h because as per the document only the > /include/asm-arm and /include/linux kernel headers were copied to > /usr/arm-linux/include. Is there a way around this? You made a mistake. After you did "make config" in the kernel tree, you had to copy (or symlink) include/asm to the place where gcc expects it. include/asm is a symlink to include/asm-arm. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 28 16:11:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA00999; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:11:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA29222 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:11:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FP1005R1WU4T5@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:10:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA00406; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18482; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:05:18 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA05207; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA05221; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16113; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:01:51 -0800 Received: from iraun1.ira.uka.de (iraun1.ira.uka.de [129.13.10.90]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA00647 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:01:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from i30s25.ira.uka.de by iraun1 (PP) with ESMTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:57:36 +0100 Received: from ira.uka.de (actually i30s25) by i30s25 (PP) with ESMTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:57:33 +0100 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:57:31 +0100 From: Uwe Dannowski Subject: Re: Cache Write Back Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <3891AE5B.2D63B039@ira.uka.de> Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Dept. of CS, System Architecture Group MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en, de References: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > I have a question about the Data Cache write back behaviour. Are > the Page Table permissions check when a dirty DCache line gets written to > the Write Buffer? Or is only the translation checked? >From SA-1100 Developer's Manual, 6.2 Data Caches (Dcaches), p. 6-2: > Each line entry contains the physical address of the line and two dirty > bits. ... and ... > When a line is evicted from the Dcaches, the dirty bits are used to decide > if all, half, or none of the line will be written back to memory using the > physical address stored with the line. Seems, nothing is checked on Writeback, since this has been done during Allocate already. At least this is what I read in the manual ;-) Cheers, Uwe -- Uwe Dannowski, University of Karlsruhe, Dept. of CS, System Architecture Group 76128 Karlsruhe, Germany Tel: +49-721-6088970, Fax: +49-721-6087664 mailto:Uwe.Dannowski@ira.uka.de http://i30www.ira.uka.de/~dannowsk/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 28 16:28:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA01175; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:28:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA29799 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:28:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FP1007E0XNUJL@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:28:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA00202; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:23:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18621; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:23:40 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA05238; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:20:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA05237; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:20:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16236; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:20:57 -0800 Received: from web1206.mail.yahoo.com (web1206.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.142]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA04120 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:20:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 919 invoked by uid 60001); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:14:25 +0000 Received: from [202.106.15.160] by web1206.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:14:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:14:25 -0800 (PST) From: wolf Subject: Re: How to build X using cross development tool chain Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip Blundell Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000128151425.918.qmail@web1206.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk Hi, Philip It seems I need a gcc which can support muliple targets. But following intel's or chris Rutter's instruction, the created arm-linux-gcc can only support one target, arm-linux. How to build gcc to support multiple targets? wolf --- Philip Blundell wrote: > >I got X window package from Titan's ftp site. But > all > >the configuration files seems to be designed for > being > >built based on Titan platform. How can I do a > >successful build using my cross development tool > chain > >based on redhat PC? > > Cross-building X would probably be astonishingly > hard. To be honest, you will > probably be better off buying a NetWinder or some > other ARM-based machine that > is capable of self hosting. > > p. > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 28 16:48:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA01326; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:48:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA00370 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:48:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FP10091HYJZ3M@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:48:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA32498; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:42:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16723; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:42:50 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA05256; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA05249; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:40:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19506; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:39:57 -0800 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA02913 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:39:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.0.0.67]) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12EDWL-0007Vv-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:41:13 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=mail) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12EDUu-0007KH-00; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:39:44 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12EDUu-0001KJ-00; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:39:44 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:39:44 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: How to build X using cross development tool chain In-reply-to: Message from wolf "of Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:14:25 PST." <20000128151425.918.qmail@web1206.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: wolf Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <20000128151425.918.qmail@web1206.mail.yahoo.com> >It seems I need a gcc which can support muliple >targets. But following intel's or chris Rutter's >instruction, the created arm-linux-gcc can only >support one target, arm-linux. > >How to build gcc to support multiple targets? You can't. GCC can only be configured to support one target at a time, aside from things like ARM vs Thumb that are really just different variations on a theme. Why do you want a multi-target compiler? p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 28 17:34:50 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA01564; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:34:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL8VCW10O29ED9B3@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:33:54 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA08740; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27462; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:25:14 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA05273; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:24:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA05265; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16783; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:24:50 -0800 Received: from web1205.mail.yahoo.com (web1205.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.141]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA06771 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4245 invoked by uid 60001); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:01:26 +0000 Received: from [202.106.15.160] by web1205.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:01:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:01:26 -0800 (PST) From: wolf Subject: Re: How to build X using cross development tool chain Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip Blundell Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000128160126.4244.qmail@web1205.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk Hi, philip --- Philip Blundell wrote: > >It seems I need a gcc which can support muliple > >targets. But following intel's or chris Rutter's > >instruction, the created arm-linux-gcc can only > >support one target, arm-linux. > > > >How to build gcc to support multiple targets? > > You can't. GCC can only be configured to support > one target at a time, aside > from things like ARM vs Thumb that are really just > different variations on a > theme. I am a little confusing. In gcc's manual, there is a -b option, which is called target options. Since gcc can only be configured to support one target at a time, why this option is offered when I have no other option to select? > > Why do you want a multi-target compiler? Because when I am building X server, it seem I need a native compiler to make some intermediate file such as Imake to run on the host, I also need cross compiler to compile X for target. wolf __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 28 17:44:44 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA01625; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:44:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL8VKFS7ZO9ED9B3@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:43:01 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA06606; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06376; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:31:02 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA05280; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:30:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA05285; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17208; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:30:53 -0800 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA04361 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.0.0.67] ident=mail) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12EEJn-0007X7-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:32:19 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=mail) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12EEIM-0007Sd-00; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:30:50 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12EEIM-0001lf-00; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:30:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:30:50 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: How to build X using cross development tool chain In-reply-to: Message from wolf "of Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:01:26 PST." <20000128160126.4244.qmail@web1205.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: wolf Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <20000128160126.4244.qmail@web1205.mail.yahoo.com> >I am a little confusing. In gcc's manual, there is a >-b option, which is called target options. Since gcc >can only be configured to support one target at a >time, why this option is offered when I have no other >option to select? Oh, I see. That option just tells the `gcc' driver program to invoke a different version of the actual compiler to the one it would usually choose. "gcc -b foo" is pretty much equivalent to "foo-gcc". p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jan 28 22:01:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedv.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA02686; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:01:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JL94WE2VQQ9FM7AV@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:01:24 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA01379; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:58:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15236; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:57:56 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA05539; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:55:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA05553; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15896; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:55:35 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA00833 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:55:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11880 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:51:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:51:57 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: vacation Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs I'll be off the net for two weeks from now. So, don't expect any news from me for that period. Please share any patch you may produce with the list. BTW I'm actually uploading a file called arm-xtoolchain.tgz that contains binaries of gcc and binutils to cross-compile for ARM on an i386. Just untar it in the root i.e. / directory. I don't know if everything is in there, neither if the upload will complete successfully. Hopefully it will help people having difficulties compiling their own. PS: If you come by Puerto Plata, and find a man with a white cane on the beach... then come to say hello! :-) Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jan 31 22:01:50 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA21081; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:01:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLDBS2YF6E9FMBYI@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:01:45 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA26368; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:59:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00699; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:59:03 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA06826; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:56:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA06819; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:56:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16653; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:56:19 -0800 Received: from fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com (ns.arm.com [208.193.202.3]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA24531 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:56:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com; id MAA14958; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:51:27 -0800 Received: from unknown(194.202.50.2) by fw-losgatos.losgatos.arm.com via smap (V5.0) id xma014954; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:50:40 -0800 Received: from magpie (dhcp47 [194.202.50.238]) by incsun1.losgatos.arm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA25826 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:51:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:44:31 -0600 From: Ian Field Subject: Re: porting Linux to a StrongARM SA-1110 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <000701bf6c1b$366ea180$ee32cac2@losgatos.arm.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 References: <200001312038.VAA20928@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> X-Priority: 3 check out uClinux port to arm trio. They've done some work with cs8900.c uClinux/linux/arch/armnommu/drivers/net/triocs8900.c Cheers, IAN ----- Original Message ----- From: Erik Mouw To: Cc: Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 2:38 PM Subject: Re: porting Linux to a StrongARM SA-1110 > On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:15:33 +0000 (GMT), Gilroy Billard wrote: > > I am interested in porting Linux to a StrongARM SA-1110 platform and would > > have to include support for: > > Flash (Intel) > > LCD > > USB > > Ethernet (Crystal 89xx) > > Serial Ports > > > > Since I'm relatively new to Linux and especially to the StrongARM, I was > > wondering if somebody out there could tell me how much of this is already > > supported by one port or another. A reference to the best Linux port would > > also be appreciated. > > > > If support for these items does not exist some ballpark estimates as to how > > long it would take would be nice. > > Nicolas Pitre's latest SA1100 patch should work. The biggest difference > between the SA1100 and the SA1110 is the memory controller. > Linux-2.3.35-rmk1-np1 seems to work with SA1110 based boards (according to > Hiroshi Ishii), so I presume linux-2.3.35-rmk1-np6 still works. > > Flash works. It's just memory. I can't remember if there is a flash writer > or a flash device, but otherwise you can just pick any flash utility (the > one from blob, for example[1]) and do it from userspace. > > LCD works, although you have to fiddle with the exact dimensions (in > pixels) of your LCD panel. On LART, we got a b/w and a color display > working within two days or so. > > There is no USB support yet (probably because it is client only). I've > heard rumours about people going to work on it, though. > > The Crystal ethernet chips are supported in i386 Linux. I don't know if it > is yet supported by ArmLinux, but if it isn't, we're going to port it > anyway. The LART KSB[2] comes with four CS8900 chips. The biggest problem > I expect in porting the driver is that it is written with the i386 I/O > space in mind while SA1100 has memory mapped I/O. According to Alan Cox, > it shouldn't be too difficult, so that's why we choose this particular > ethernet chip. > > Serial ports work straight out of the box. > > > Erik > > [1] blob: Boot Loader OBject. The bootloader for the LART board, see > http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/blob/ . > [2] KSB: Kitchen Sink Board. Basically lots of I/O on 100 cm2. See > http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ for the > schematics. > > -- > LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. > http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ > > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jan 31 20:24:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA20440; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:24:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLD8EX18RQ9FMBZR@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:24:49 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA31751; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00291; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:21:07 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA06733; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA06744; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14119; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:15:38 -0800 Received: from hotmail.com (f149.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.149]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA20039 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 98141 invoked by uid 0); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:15:33 +0000 Received: from 24.222.63.8 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:15:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:15:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Gilroy Billard Subject: porting Linux to a StrongARM SA-1110 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000131191533.98140.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Precedence: bulk X-Originating-Ip: [24.222.63.8] Hi, I am interested in porting Linux to a StrongARM SA-1110 platform and would have to include support for: Flash (Intel) LCD USB Ethernet (Crystal 89xx) Serial Ports Since I'm relatively new to Linux and especially to the StrongARM, I was wondering if somebody out there could tell me how much of this is already supported by one port or another. A reference to the best Linux port would also be appreciated. If support for these items does not exist some ballpark estimates as to how long it would take would be nice. Thanks, Gilroy gilroybillard@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jan 31 21:46:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA20971; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:46:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLDB8JSQHM9ED9FH@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:45:57 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA23936; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:43:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06512; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:43:07 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA06798; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA06791; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:39:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31788; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:39:51 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA26168 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA20928; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:38:31 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:38:31 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: porting Linux to a StrongARM SA-1110 In-reply-to: <20000131191533.98140.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: gilroybillard@hotmail.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200001312038.VAA20928@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:15:33 +0000 (GMT), Gilroy Billard wrote: > I am interested in porting Linux to a StrongARM SA-1110 platform and would > have to include support for: > Flash (Intel) > LCD > USB > Ethernet (Crystal 89xx) > Serial Ports > > Since I'm relatively new to Linux and especially to the StrongARM, I was > wondering if somebody out there could tell me how much of this is already > supported by one port or another. A reference to the best Linux port would > also be appreciated. > > If support for these items does not exist some ballpark estimates as to how > long it would take would be nice. Nicolas Pitre's latest SA1100 patch should work. The biggest difference between the SA1100 and the SA1110 is the memory controller. Linux-2.3.35-rmk1-np1 seems to work with SA1110 based boards (according to Hiroshi Ishii), so I presume linux-2.3.35-rmk1-np6 still works. Flash works. It's just memory. I can't remember if there is a flash writer or a flash device, but otherwise you can just pick any flash utility (the one from blob, for example[1]) and do it from userspace. LCD works, although you have to fiddle with the exact dimensions (in pixels) of your LCD panel. On LART, we got a b/w and a color display working within two days or so. There is no USB support yet (probably because it is client only). I've heard rumours about people going to work on it, though. The Crystal ethernet chips are supported in i386 Linux. I don't know if it is yet supported by ArmLinux, but if it isn't, we're going to port it anyway. The LART KSB[2] comes with four CS8900 chips. The biggest problem I expect in porting the driver is that it is written with the i386 I/O space in mind while SA1100 has memory mapped I/O. According to Alan Cox, it shouldn't be too difficult, so that's why we choose this particular ethernet chip. Serial ports work straight out of the box. Erik [1] blob: Boot Loader OBject. The bootloader for the LART board, see http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/blob/ . [2] KSB: Kitchen Sink Board. Basically lots of I/O on 100 cm2. See http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ for the schematics. -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jan 31 21:58:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA21065; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:58:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLDBOKI8MY9FMBYI@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:58:55 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA27807; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11929; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:56:13 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA06808; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:53:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA06805; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04560; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:53:31 -0800 Received: from mailgate.keith-koep.com (mailgate.keith-koep.com [195.8.230.32]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA08216 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from otto (otto [195.8.230.40]) by mailgate.keith-koep.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA02040 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:58:15 +0100 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:53:11 +0100 (MET) From: keith Subject: Re: porting Linux to a StrongARM SA-1110 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: keith Message-id: <200001312058.VAA02040@mailgate.keith-koep.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: ZNx+9fDUVLV+ITrrtj/low== Precedence: bulk The cs8900 driver works with linux. We made one attempt on a sunday afternoon. And we succeded. There were minor problems regarding our 3.3V Transformer (cable problems). But there is a lot of hope to get it running VERY quickly ! (we used the IO space mode of the cs8900A) Volker _________________________________________________________________ | | | KEITH & KOEP GMBH DEVELOPMENT OF EMBEDDED CONTROL SYSTEMS | | KOENIGSBERGER STR.2 PHONE +49 (0)202 2525 30 | | D-42277 WUPPERTAL FAX +49 (0)202 2525 333 | | GERMANY keith@keith-koep.com | |_________________________________________________________________| From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Feb 1 07:44:00 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id HAA24023; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:43:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLDW4XIIR49I43WH@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:43:58 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id WAA21149; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:39:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21065; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:39:05 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA06984; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:35:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA06980; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27609; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:35:42 -0800 Received: from asustpe3.ASUS.COM.TW ([192.72.126.36]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id WAA19662 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:35:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by asustpe3.asus.com.tw with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 14:44:42 +0800 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 14:44:41 +0800 From: Eric_Liu@asus.com.tw Subject: Unable to mount RAMDISK?? Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="big5" Precedence: bulk Hello everybody, I'm encounter problem when mounting RAMDISK in Brutus board boot-up procedure. My environment: 16MB RAM Brutus, Linux-2.2.13 kernel and all its relative patch gcc-2.95.2 binutil-2.9.5.022 Error message told me case 1: "RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid ramdisk image at address 0" When I set the base address to 0x800000 in angelboot option. case 2: "Invalid ext2 structure......" When I set the base address to 0xd8000000 in angelboot option. (Documentation told me to set this address:0xd8000000.) I'm sure this ramdisk-img.gz is correct because I can ungzip it and mount it on host PC... Any comment or hint will be appreciate.. Eric Liu From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 2 06:28:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA01680; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 06:28:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLF7R8MZQS9I45MX@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 06:28:06 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id VAA21531; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 21:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10487; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 21:17:32 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA07390; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 21:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA07386; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 21:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30717; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 21:13:34 -0800 Received: from cwcsun41.cwc.nus.edu.sg (cwcsun41.cwc.nus.edu.sg [137.132.163.102]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id VAA07179 for ; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 21:13:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from konggf.nus.edu.sg ([137.132.163.221]) by cwcsun41.cwc.nus.edu.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA15188; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 13:02:29 +0800 (SGT) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 22:34:20 +0800 From: Kong Gang Feng Subject: Re: Screen blanks in VGA mode... Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: konggf@postman.cwc.nus.edu.sg To: "J.D. Bakker" , "Saxena, Nikita" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <3.0.32.20000201223419.00a9e070@postman.cwc.nus.edu.sg> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk >The console code has an autoblank feature, which turns the display off >after a period of inactivity (10 minutes default). Normally the console is >unblanked when you hit a key, but I'm guessing your platform has no >keyboard to perform the unblanking. By doing > >setterm -blank 0 > /dev console (or whatever the proper device for your >console is) > How about X window? Once X server start, console drv is replaced? How to control the autoblanking of X? Thanks Kong >in one of your startup scripts, the blanking is stopped. > >HTH, > >JDB. > >-- >LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. >http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ > > > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 2 00:15:25 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA00308; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:15:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLEUR4NC6U9EDA7I@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:15:22 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA15707; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:11:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02294; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:09:26 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA07245; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA07238; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07515; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:04:26 -0800 Received: from NT_Server.flatpanels.com (flatpanels.com [207.196.69.66]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA27509 for ; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by flatpanels.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1C06FZ17>; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 18:02:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 18:02:24 -0500 From: "Saxena, Nikita" Subject: Screen blanks in VGA mode... Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <91B07CA588CED3118CFE00105AC97594D09C@flatpanels.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'm running linux kernel 2.3.35 on our sa1100 thinclient board here and it works with a VGA TFT LCD display. While it boots up fine, the display blanks out after approx. 10 mts. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Nikita From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 2 00:31:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA00374; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:31:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLEVANLB1C9EDA7I@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:31:06 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA17540; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:28:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30912; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:27:01 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA07265; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:24:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA07255; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:23:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15784; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:23:59 -0800 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA28496 for ; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:23:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.161.115.44] (jdbakker.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.115.44]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA16549; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 00:23:53 +0100 Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 00:23:31 +0100 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: Screen blanks in VGA mode... In-reply-to: <91B07CA588CED3118CFE00105AC97594D09C@flatpanels.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "Saxena, Nikita" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk At 00:02 +0100 02-02-2000, Saxena, Nikita wrote: >I'm running linux kernel 2.3.35 on our sa1100 thinclient board here and it >works with a VGA TFT LCD display. While it boots up fine, the display >blanks out after approx. 10 mts. Does anyone have any suggestions? Short answer: man setterm Long answer: The console code has an autoblank feature, which turns the display off after a period of inactivity (10 minutes default). Normally the console is unblanked when you hit a key, but I'm guessing your platform has no keyboard to perform the unblanking. By doing setterm -blank 0 > /dev console (or whatever the proper device for your console is) in one of your startup scripts, the blanking is stopped. HTH, JDB. -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 2 17:24:33 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA05484; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 17:24:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLFUP347ES9I46FD@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 17:24:31 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA31511; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 08:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08429; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 08:19:54 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA07550; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 08:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA07562; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 08:16:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28747; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 08:16:21 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA22015 for ; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 08:16:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA05436; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 17:14:56 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 17:14:56 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: Screen blanks in VGA mode... In-reply-to: <3.0.32.20000201223419.00a9e070@postman.cwc.nus.edu.sg> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: konggf@cwc.nus.edu.sg Cc: J.D.Bakker@ITS.TUDelft.NL, NSaxena@flatpanels.com, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200002021614.RAA05436@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Tue, 01 Feb 2000 22:34:20 +0800, Kong Gang Feng wrote: >>setterm -blank 0 > /dev console (or whatever the proper device for your >>console is) >> > How about X window? Once X server start, console drv is replaced? > How to control the autoblanking of X? The short answer: man xset The slightly longer version: xset s off Erik -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 2 22:55:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA06807; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:55:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLG68VFI5O9I479M@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:55:02 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA19308; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 13:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01076; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 13:51:34 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA07748; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 13:47:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA07753; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 13:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29579; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 13:47:48 -0800 Received: from NT_Server.flatpanels.com (flatpanels.com [207.196.69.66]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA18946 for ; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 13:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by flatpanels.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1C06FZN7>; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 16:45:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 16:45:52 -0500 From: "Saxena, Nikita" Subject: X window or GNOME Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <91B07CA588CED3118CFE00105AC97594D0A0@flatpanels.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Hi all, Has anyone had any luck making X work with kernel version 2.3.35 on a brutus or brutus like system? If so, what are some of the key steps involved in doing that? Also, same question for GNOME? Thanks, Nikita From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Feb 3 09:48:06 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id JAA08718; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:48:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLGT1IRBT09EDAM2@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:48:04 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id AAA07429; Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:44:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04016; Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:44:11 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA08100; Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA08090; Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:39:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10571; Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:39:41 -0800 Received: from uumail-relay-blr.ernet.in (uumail-relay-blr.ernet.in [202.141.1.17]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id AAA03563 for ; Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:39:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from iisc.ernet.in (iisc.ernet.in [144.16.64.3]) by uumail-relay-blr.ernet.in (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA29593; Thu, 03 Feb 2000 14:07:44 +0530 Received: from osiris.csa.iisc.ernet.in (osiris.csa.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.67.12]) by iisc.ernet.in (8.9.2/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA21120; Thu, 03 Feb 2000 14:03:20 +0530 (IST) Received: from localhost by osiris.csa.iisc.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA27710; Thu, 03 Feb 2000 14:00:53 +0530 (IST) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 14:00:52 +0530 (IST) From: Nitin A Kamble Subject: Re: X window or GNOME In-reply-to: <91B07CA588CED3118CFE00105AC97594D0A0@flatpanels.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "Saxena, Nikita" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: osiris.csa.iisc.ernet.in: nitin owned process doing -bs hi Nikita, GNOME is windo manager which runs on top of X server. And it is not replacement for the X server. You can try microwindows which runs on top of Nano X-server , for more info see http://microwindows.censoft.com/ Nitin On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Saxena, Nikita wrote: > > Hi all, > > Has anyone had any luck making X work with kernel version 2.3.35 on a brutus > or brutus like system? If so, what are some of the key steps involved in > doing that? Also, same question for GNOME? > > Thanks, > Nikita > From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Feb 4 16:19:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA17520; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:19:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLIL0L6D929EDBRR@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:19:49 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA26952; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17359; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:16:00 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA08820; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA08830; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:12:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21325; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:12:53 -0800 Received: from blazieresearch.com (blazieresearch.com [199.227.113.99]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA26980 for ; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpq800.blazieresearch.com (cpq800 [199.227.113.100]) by blazieresearch.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA06651 for ; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 10:12:47 -0500 Received: by ispsl1-100.gate.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 10:12:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 10:12:33 -0500 From: Mike Reynolds Subject: binary or hex image for prom programmer. Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: <412E1CF8088BD211AD5100805FAD9A800B5A9B@ispsl1-100.gate.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hi, Does any know of a utility or some method to convert a binary output to an image that can be programmed with a prom programmer? Thanks. Mike Reynolds From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Feb 4 16:29:15 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA17580; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:29:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLILC71U369I49TO@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:29:13 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA23376; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:26:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32716; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:26:24 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA08855; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:26:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA08844; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:26:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01222; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:26:11 -0800 Received: from mailgate.keith-koep.com (mailgate.keith-koep.com [195.8.230.32]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA26783 for ; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:26:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from otto (otto [195.8.230.40]) by mailgate.keith-koep.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA07602 for ; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 16:30:26 +0100 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 16:25:51 +0100 (MET) From: keith Subject: Re: binary or hex image for prom programmer. Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: keith Message-id: <200002041530.QAA07602@mailgate.keith-koep.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: FiuRbib9Py+Qst1f/KBguA== Precedence: bulk Try it with: objcopy -O binary infile outfile to get raw binary objcopy -O srec infile outfile to get srecords The objcopy should be out of the toolchain you are using Volker From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Feb 6 02:56:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA22644; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 02:56:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLKLJ7XAOS9I4B59@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 02:56:26 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA28658; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:53:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31467; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:53:19 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA09385; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA09386; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:51:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26108; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:51:36 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA30765 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: From hildegard With LocalMail ; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 12:49:45 +1100 Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 12:49:45 +1100 ( ) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Re: binary or hex image for prom programmer. In-reply-to: <412E1CF8088BD211AD5100805FAD9A800B5A9B@ispsl1-100.gate.net> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@hildegard.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Mike Reynolds Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Mike Reynolds wrote: > Hi, > > Does any know of a utility or some method to convert a binary output to an > image that can be programmed with a prom programmer? > Thanks. binutils objcopy? Or write your own using the bfd out of binutils Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Feb 6 02:56:59 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA22649; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 02:56:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLKLJT65N69I4B59@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 02:56:58 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA05068; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17708; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:54:12 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA09404; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA09399; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:54:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05325; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:54:00 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA05096 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:53:58 -0800 (PST) Received: From hildegard With LocalMail ; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 12:53:38 +1100 Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 12:53:21 +1100 ( ) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Cache Cleanning operation Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@hildegard.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Just a stab in the dark here, but would loop unrolling help with the expensive DCache cleanning loops? Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Feb 6 14:31:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA24045; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:31:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLL9TDGEZE9I4BCB@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:31:52 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id FAA26023; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 05:28:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07759; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 05:28:30 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA09590; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 05:27:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA09584; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 05:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29698; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 05:27:25 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id FAA26688 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 05:27:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA24026; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 14:26:05 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 14:26:05 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: binary or hex image for prom programmer. 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X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 10:12:33 -0500, Mike Reynolds wrote: > Does any know of a utility or some method to convert a binary output to an > image that can be programmed with a prom programmer? > Thanks. Objcopy should do the trick. Try objcopy -I binary -O ihex foo.bin foo.hex to convert a binary image to an Intel Hex image. I don't know how you obtained the binary image, but if it is with a normal GNU toolchain (gcc, gas, GNU ld), you can also convert the ELF image to Intel Hex. I use this commandline to get a binary image in blob[1]: arm-linux-objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -S blob-elf32 blob To obtain Intel Hex, I should use: arm-linux-objcopy -O ihex -R .note -R .comment -S blob-elf32 blob.hex HTH, Erik [1] Boot Loader Object, the LART bootloader, see http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/blob/ -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Feb 6 14:42:42 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA24083; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:42:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLLA7RGLLS9I4BCB@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:42:40 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id FAA26080; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 05:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21823; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 05:40:00 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA09614; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 05:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA09596; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 05:39:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05719; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 05:39:46 -0800 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id FAA18882 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 05:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 12HRnB-0000jp-00; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 13:31:57 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 13:31:57 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: Cache Cleanning operation In-reply-to: Message from Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins "of Sun, 06 Feb 2000 12:53:21 +1100." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: > Just a stab in the dark here, but would loop unrolling help with >the expensive DCache cleanning loops? Possibly. On the other hand, that code is not usually in the Icache when it's executed, so unrolling it too far would probably be a loss. The balance might well be different for SA-1100 and SA-110 - on the latter the cache cleaning involves external Dcache line-fills and so bus bandwidth is the main limiting factor. It couldn't hurt to try, anyway. If it makes a difference lmbench will probably show it up. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Feb 8 02:05:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA02899; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:05:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLNCC89UM09I4DLO@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:05:05 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id QAA04880; Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25156; Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:56:07 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA10388; Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:53:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA10393; Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from stowe.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15024; Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:53:52 -0800 Received: by stowe.pa.dec.com; (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AA15407; Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:53:48 -0800 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:53:48 -0800 From: Deborah Wallach Subject: Itsy schematics and updated Linux software available Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk Message-id: <200002080053.AA15407@stowe.pa.dec.com> Precedence: bulk Address: Compaq Computer Corporation; Western Research Laboratory; 250 University Avenue; Palo Alto, CA 94301; USA Phone: 650-617-3315 In order to promote collaboration and to advance the state of pocket computing research, Compaq Computer Corporation's Research Laboratories are making available the schematics and manufacturing information for the Itsy V1.5 Pocket Computer. The Itsy is a flexible research platform, based on the StrongARM 1100, intended to enable hardware and software research in pocket computing. It is a small, low-power handheld device with a highly flexible interface, designed to encourage the development of innovative research projects, such as novel user interfaces, new applications, power management techniques, hardware extensions, etc. The information we are making available includes the hardware specifications, a low level monitor, and the Linux source code for the Itsy. Information about the project is available at: www.research.compaq.com/wrl/itsy More information on the distribution and how to download it is available at: www.research.compaq.com/wrl/itsy/download.html Deborah Wallach Western Research Laboratory Compaq Computer Corporation From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 9 04:14:20 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA11778; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 04:14:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLOV4T3VSE9EDEGO@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 04:14:19 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA19413; Tue, 08 Feb 2000 19:10:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14974; Tue, 08 Feb 2000 19:08:03 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA11533; Tue, 08 Feb 2000 19:04:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA11553; Tue, 08 Feb 2000 19:04:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11337; Tue, 08 Feb 2000 19:04:50 -0800 Received: from maxwell.ee.washington.edu (root@maxwell.ee.washington.edu [128.95.42.3]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id TAA14825 for ; Tue, 08 Feb 2000 19:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from raccoon (adsl-63-194-216-100.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.194.216.100]) by maxwell.ee.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA15049 for ; Tue, 08 Feb 2000 19:03:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 19:07:11 -0800 From: Ling Su Subject: About the Flash file system Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: Ling Su Message-id: <004001bf72aa$c2e41ec0$6500a8c0@raccoon> Organization: Palm Microsystems, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Priority: 3 Hi, >From the website, I knew there is a Flash File System in Itsy's Linux port, could someone please tell me what is its name? Where I can found it? Another general question is where I can find the Itsy's Linux port document except dig into the code. Thanks! Regards, -Ling From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 9 10:23:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA13717; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:23:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLP81044SE9EDEJ0@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:23:05 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA10940; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 01:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14050; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 01:19:19 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA11861; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 01:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA11844; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 01:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12958; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 01:16:43 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id BAA10160 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 01:16:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA13663; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:15:22 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:15:22 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: About the Flash file system In-reply-to: <004001bf72aa$c2e41ec0$6500a8c0@raccoon> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: lingsu@palmmicro.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200002090915.KAA13663@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Tue, 08 Feb 2000 19:07:11 -0800, Ling Su wrote: >>From the website, I knew there is a Flash File System in Itsy's Linux port, > could someone please tell me what is its name? Where I can found it? I think you mean the ramdisk. You can find one at Nicolas Pitre's site: ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ramdisk-img.gz I'm currently building a new ramdisk based on glibc-2.1.2 which I will announce to this list as soon as it is ready. (Ramdisk status update: all binaries are in place, just have to add a couple of scripts to get the whole thing started) > Another general question is where I can find the Itsy's Linux port document > except dig into the code. There isn't that much documentation except for the talk slides available at http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/slides.html . Erik -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 9 16:03:24 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedv.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA16231; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:03:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLPJVOKC3U9EDEV7@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:03:11 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA31236; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 07:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03511; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 06:59:54 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA12118; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 06:59:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA12113; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 06:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12847; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 06:59:30 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA05951 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 06:59:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA16186; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 15:58:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 15:58:10 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: hello In-reply-to: <38A1A302.98F19C0A@siscom.net> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: bkraack@siscom.net Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200002091458.PAA16186@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Wed, 09 Feb 2000 09:25:22 -0800, Brian Kraack wrote: > I just joined the list because I just found out about this thing. It seems > very > cool and I want to build one. Any advice from you all would be great. I'm a I assume you're referring to the Itsy. There is not just "one" SA1100 based system, there are several designs around. Intel has a couple of development boards (http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/), PLEB is another one (http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~pleb/), we've developed LART (see URL in my signature), and there are others available as well. > software guy, but I took several hardware classes in college (I know how to > wire > a breadboard, etc.), and I know some hardware guys too. Ehm, you _really_ don't want to wire a SA1100 based system on a breadboard. Besides the fact that an LQFP or BGA package doesn't really fit on a breadboard, there is also the issue about the clock frequency. Breadboards aren't designed for > 30MHz. The LART uses a 6 layer PCB, I don't know about the other designs. You need proper power and ground planes on your PCB, so unless you are _very_ lucky it won't work on a two layer PCB. If you want an SA1100 based board _now_, just buy one from Intel. Or contact the PLEB guys if they have one available for you. > The first thing I noticed is the claim that the touch screen and LCD are not > publicly available ... how did you work around this issue? Where did you read this claim? It might be outdated because the Itsy documentation has been released yesterday. > If there is a FAQ that covers this stuff, I apologize, please point me to it. > (the 'official' itsy site seams very small for such a cool thing ... are there > other sites out there?) Some random links: - http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/ The official Intel pages - http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~pleb/ The PLEB homepage - http://foobar.starlab.net/~soggie/feather/ StarLab's FEATHER board - http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ The LART homepage - http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/blob/ The blob homepage (bootloader for LART) - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ ArmLinux homepage - ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ Nicolas Pitre's patches for SA1100 Linux - ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/ Phil Blundell's ARM patches for gcc and binutils - http://www.inkvine.fluff.org/~chris/arm-tools.html Chris Rutter's cross compiler build HOWTO Erik -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 9 17:37:46 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA16926; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:37:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLPN6UZ7GC9JD3UO@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:37:44 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA13502; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00407; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:34:12 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA12159; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA12164; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08369; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:33:34 -0800 Received: from blazieresearch.com (blazieresearch.com [199.227.113.99]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA12846 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:33:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpq800.blazieresearch.com (cpq800 [199.227.113.100]) by blazieresearch.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA03326 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 11:33:46 -0500 Received: by ispsl1-100.gate.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id <1RJ57CY3>; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 11:32:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 11:32:25 -0500 From: Mike Reynolds Subject: SA1110 bootloader Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'SA-1100/Linux'" Message-id: <412E1CF8088BD211AD5100805FAD9A800B5A9F@ispsl1-100.gate.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hi all, Is anyone aware of a bootloader for the SA1110 that was developed with the Linux tool chain? It seems that most of them were done with the ARM SDT. Thanks. Mike Reynolds From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 9 17:47:36 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA16973; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:47:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLPNJ3AABQ9JD3UO@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:47:34 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA08076; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:44:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30778; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:43:47 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA12194; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:43:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA12179; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10627; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:43:37 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA14396 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:43:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA16956; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 17:42:17 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 17:42:17 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: SA1110 bootloader In-reply-to: <412E1CF8088BD211AD5100805FAD9A800B5A9F@ispsl1-100.gate.net> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: mike@blazie.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200002091642.RAA16956@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Wed, 09 Feb 2000 11:32:25 -0500, Mike Reynolds wrote: > Is anyone aware of a bootloader for the SA1110 that was developed with the > Linux tool chain? > It seems that most of them were done with the ARM SDT. Thanks. Yes, blob[1] (the bootloader for LART) can be compiled with a gcc toolchain. Both a native as well as a cross toolchain will do. Blob is available at: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/blob/ Erik [1] Boot Loader OBject -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 9 18:06:20 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA17073; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:06:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLPO7922T29JD3UO@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:06:18 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA15874; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 09:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14145; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 09:02:43 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA12156; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 09:02:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA12183; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 09:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25049; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 09:02:28 -0800 Received: from mailgate.keith-koep.com (root@mailgate.keith-koep.com [195.8.230.32]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id JAA16375 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 09:02:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from otto (otto [195.8.230.40]) by mailgate.keith-koep.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA00541 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:07:23 +0100 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:02:07 +0100 (MET) From: keith Subject: bootp tftp bootstrap Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: keith Message-id: <200002091707.SAA00541@mailgate.keith-koep.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: Eq20o47Fw0zMaAKP5ymKQw== Precedence: bulk Bootstrap with GNU Toolchains There is a bootp/tftp bootstrap loader available at: ftp://keith-koep.com/pub/sa1100_boot/bootstrp/src/gdbstub.tar.gz tools to make bootimages: ftp://keith-koep.com/pub/sa1100_boot/boottools There is a serial+udp version of a generic gdb-stub for the direkt interface to gdb included. To have ethernet debugging features you will need an extension to remote.c in gdb. If interested please contact me. Volker PS: The bootstap code is loaded by the PBL in angel. The entry is very early after reset. So the things you need to add for the reset code is very small. As our angel adaption code is on the ftp server too it should be easily included into the bootstrap. _________________________________________________________________ | | | KEITH & KOEP GMBH DEVELOPMENT OF EMBEDDED CONTROL SYSTEMS | | KOENIGSBERGER STR.2 PHONE +49 (0)202 2525 30 | | D-42277 WUPPERTAL FAX +49 (0)202 2525 333 | | GERMANY keith@keith-koep.com | |_________________________________________________________________| From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 9 15:31:03 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA15972; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:31:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLPIRS77D89EDEV7@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:31:00 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA32721; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 06:28:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01260; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 06:27:21 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA12077; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 06:26:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA12074; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 06:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26864; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 06:26:27 -0800 Received: from server1.siscom.net (server1.siscom.net [209.251.2.89]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA26588 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 06:26:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23655 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:25:40 +0000 Received: from ppp94.c5300-1.day-oh.siscom.net (HELO siscom.net) ([209.251.9.94]) (envelope-sender ) by server1.siscom.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:25:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 09:25:22 -0800 From: Brian Kraack Subject: hello Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: bkraack@siscom.net Message-id: <38A1A302.98F19C0A@siscom.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk References: <200002090915.KAA13663@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Hello all, I just joined the list because I just found out about this thing. It seems very cool and I want to build one. Any advice from you all would be great. I'm a software guy, but I took several hardware classes in college (I know how to wire a breadboard, etc.), and I know some hardware guys too. The first thing I noticed is the claim that the touch screen and LCD are not publicly available ... how did you work around this issue? If there is a FAQ that covers this stuff, I apologize, please point me to it. (the 'official' itsy site seams very small for such a cool thing ... are there other sites out there?) tia, /Brian From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 9 19:27:46 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA17549; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:27:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLPR19Z7KU9EDEII@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:27:44 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA14798; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:24:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13066; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:24:15 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA12266; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:24:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA12258; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15993; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:24:04 -0800 Received: from hotmail.com (f24.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.24]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA23319 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 99713 invoked by uid 0); Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:23:29 +0000 Received: from 134.48.4.15 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:23:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:23:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Grant R Subject: Q.SA-1100 vs SA-1110? Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000209182329.99712.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Precedence: bulk X-Originating-Ip: [134.48.4.15] Dear Group, Currently I'm studying computer science; as Linux is open-source it seems to be an excellent study in OS internals and embedded systems via the SA-1100. Having put the SA-1100 development board under considersation; I would like to know if anyone has worked with the SA-1110 and if so how did their experience with ArmLinux differ? According to Intel's web site, "The SA-1110 differs from the SA-1100 only in the features of its memory and PCMCIA controller." So, do I need to be worried if I purchase the SA-1110? Best Wishes, G.C.R ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 9 20:14:38 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA17783; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:14:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLPSODHTU89JD40K@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:14:36 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA28540; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 11:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23866; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 11:11:14 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA12319; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 11:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA12314; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 11:10:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26053; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 11:10:42 -0800 Received: from tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com (mail.teklogix.com [207.219.2.10]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA28245 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 11:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from DeadDuck (BILL [10.128.5.25]) by tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id CYMG40VT; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:09:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:10:03 -0600 From: Bill Pringlemeir Subject: Re: Q.SA-1100 vs SA-1110? In-reply-to: "Grant R"'s message of "Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:23:29 GMT" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Grant R Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: Organization: noitazinagro MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk X-Home-Page: http://www.wwonline.com/~bpringle/ User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.5 Lines: 32 References: <20000209182329.99712.qmail@hotmail.com> What Intel says is true, the SA1110 is only different in the PCCard (PCMCIA) and the SDRAM support. However, if you buy a brutus board (SA1100) or the SA1110 evaluation board, you get different memory and peripherals. If you are designing your own board, then the code could be identical for SA1100 or SA1110 (excluding SDRAM). The PCCard differences are just buffering, or hardware mainly. The SA1110, can also be clocked faster and seems to be lower power from what I have seen. So the processors are about the same, but the boards will have differences. Also, the SA1110 is in sample mode only (afaik) and the silicon could be buggy. hth, Bill Grant> Dear Group, Currently I'm studying computer science; as Grant> Linux is open-source it seems to be an excellent study in Grant> OS internals and embedded systems via the SA-1100. Having Grant> put the SA-1100 development board under considersation; I Grant> would like to know if anyone has worked with the SA-1110 Grant> and if so how did their experience with ArmLinux differ? Grant> According to Intel's web site, "The SA-1110 differs from Grant> the SA-1100 only in the features of its memory and PCMCIA Grant> controller." So, do I need to be worried if I purchase the Grant> SA-1110? -- When I'm in Canada, I feel this is what the world should be like - Jane Fonda From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 9 19:14:57 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA17472; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:14:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLPQLDUC0G9EDEII@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:14:55 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA18311; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:11:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32640; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:11:10 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA12241; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA12240; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:10:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11405; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:10:34 -0800 Received: from server1.siscom.net (server1.siscom.net [209.251.2.89]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA17902 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 71182 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:09:47 +0000 Received: from ppp165.c5300-1.day-oh.siscom.net (HELO siscom.net) ([209.251.9.165]) (envelope-sender ) by server1.siscom.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:09:47 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:09:30 -0800 From: Brian Kraack Subject: Re: hello Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: bkraack@siscom.net Message-id: <38A1D78A.F182DFEB@siscom.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk References: <200002091458.PAA16186@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> yes, I'm refering to the Itsy ... I didn't realize there were multiple projects. I didn't think I'd be able to do it on a breadboard (though I hoped I could). The claim about the non-availability of the LCD and touch screens is from the Itsy website ... and the documentation (that I dl'd yesterday) claims they are custom/not-available, etc. maybe they're just not up-to-date ... A buddy and I had decided we were going to try and roll our own rather than mess with Itsy and all of it's licensing issues (and also maybe to sell as kits, etc.) .... it sounds like there are several other attempts at this from the URLs listed in your email, I'll check them out. Thanks for the all of the info ... /Brian Erik Mouw wrote: > On Wed, 09 Feb 2000 09:25:22 -0800, Brian Kraack wrote: > > I just joined the list because I just found out about this thing. It seems > > very > > cool and I want to build one. Any advice from you all would be great. I'm a > > I assume you're referring to the Itsy. There is not just "one" SA1100 > based system, there are several designs around. Intel has a couple of > development boards (http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/), PLEB is > another one (http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~pleb/), we've developed LART (see > URL in my signature), and there are others available as well. > > > software guy, but I took several hardware classes in college (I know how to > > wire > > a breadboard, etc.), and I know some hardware guys too. > > Ehm, you _really_ don't want to wire a SA1100 based system on a > breadboard. Besides the fact that an LQFP or BGA package doesn't really > fit on a breadboard, there is also the issue about the clock frequency. > Breadboards aren't designed for > 30MHz. The LART uses a 6 layer PCB, I > don't know about the other designs. You need proper power and ground > planes on your PCB, so unless you are _very_ lucky it won't work on a two > layer PCB. > > If you want an SA1100 based board _now_, just buy one from Intel. Or > contact the PLEB guys if they have one available for you. > > > The first thing I noticed is the claim that the touch screen and LCD are not > > publicly available ... how did you work around this issue? > > Where did you read this claim? It might be outdated because the Itsy > documentation has been released yesterday. > > > If there is a FAQ that covers this stuff, I apologize, please point me to it. > > (the 'official' itsy site seams very small for such a cool thing ... are there > > other sites out there?) > > Some random links: > > - http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/ > The official Intel pages > - http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~pleb/ > The PLEB homepage > - http://foobar.starlab.net/~soggie/feather/ > StarLab's FEATHER board > - http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ > The LART homepage > - http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/blob/ > The blob homepage (bootloader for LART) > - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ > ArmLinux homepage > - ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ > Nicolas Pitre's patches for SA1100 Linux > - ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/ > Phil Blundell's ARM patches for gcc and binutils > - http://www.inkvine.fluff.org/~chris/arm-tools.html > Chris Rutter's cross compiler build HOWTO > > Erik > > -- > LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. > http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 9 22:52:20 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA18474; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:52:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLPY6WCQ8K9EDEK6@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:52:18 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA06876; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20820; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:48:57 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA12488; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA12474; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:48:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15619; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:48:08 -0800 Received: from mentor.cc.purdue.edu (IDENT:root@mentor.cc.purdue.edu [128.210.10.12]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA03811 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs.purdue.edu (dial-c-02-50.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.132.156]) by mentor.cc.purdue.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16451 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:44:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:55:02 -0500 From: Adrian Silveanu Subject: Itsy's Cost Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <38A1E236.4A5411AC@cs.purdue.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i586) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en Hi, I am looking into the possibility of building a copy of Compaq's Itsy and am trying to estimate its cost. I hope to built one during the summer if the cost isn't high. I am currently studying at college. I looked that the prices for Intel's SA-1100 Evaluation Platform, which is $2500, and Intel's SA-1110 Dev. Board, which is $1750. These are out of my range. I plan to budget about $500 or the price of a Palm Pilot Vx, which ever is more. Is this reasonable? I realize I might go out of budget a little. I would pay a company to make the printed circuit boards. When I am not at college, I am in Chicago, so hopefully it shouldn't be too hard to get this done. I am concerned about the surface mount components. Soldering them in by hand isn't impossible, but I can imagine difficult. As for the case, once I get everything else working, I would buy/make a case for it. Thanks for any info, Adrian Silveanu From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 9 23:25:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA18602; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:25:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLPZBKT9JY9JD49M@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:25:08 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA10956; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:22:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07375; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:19:06 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA12533; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA12532; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:18:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26245; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:18:40 -0800 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (mail@tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA10602 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 12IfRG-0007iT-00; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 22:18:22 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 22:18:22 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: Itsy's Cost In-reply-to: Message from Adrian Silveanu "of Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:55:02 EST." <38A1E236.4A5411AC@cs.purdue.edu> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Adrian Silveanu Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <38A1E236.4A5411AC@cs.purdue.edu> > I looked that the prices for Intel's SA-1100 Evaluation Platform, >which is $2500, and Intel's SA-1110 Dev. Board, which is $1750. These >are out of my range. I plan to budget about $500 or the price of a >Palm Pilot Vx, which ever is more. Is this reasonable? I realize I >might go out of budget a little. It depends how much of the work you plan to do yourself. I think $500 should easily cover the material costs, but if you have to pay for PCB layout, assembly etc that will of course push the price up. Get a copy of the Itsy bill of materials, call some local distributors and get quotes for 1-up prices on the major parts. You may find some of them will send you "sample" parts for free. >I am concerned about the surface mount components. >Soldering them in by hand isn't impossible, but I can imagine difficult. You almost certainly don't want to try to solder these by hand. You need to find someone with reflow equipment who is prepared to do single boards (which will obviously mean manual placement). p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Feb 10 00:14:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA18772; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:14:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLQ1120W029EDF71@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:14:52 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA12511; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 15:10:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15925; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 15:07:45 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA12567; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 15:06:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA12560; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 15:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25363; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 15:06:56 -0800 Received: from empeg.com (morrison.empeg.co.uk [193.119.19.130]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA15178 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 15:06:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from dodgy (dodgy.internal.empeg.com [10.1.1.32]) by empeg.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA12610; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 23:06:41 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 23:06:42 +0000 From: Mike Crowe Subject: Re: Itsy's Cost Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Adrian Silveanu , Philip Blundell Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <002d01bf7352$546215d0$2001010a@internal.empeg.com> Organization: empeg ltd MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 References: <38A1E236.4A5411AC@cs.purdue.edu> X-Priority: 3 You wrote: > You almost certainly don't want to try to solder these by hand. You need to > find someone with reflow equipment who is prepared to do single boards (which > will obviously mean manual placement). Well, all the empeg prototypes have been hand soldered and all but the first ran code first time. To do this you require: a) A fine tipped soldering iron. b) SMT solder. c) Lots of flux. d) Solder braid. e) One mad hardware engineer. f) Lots of patience and practice (ie. over 32000 individual solder joints in the last year). However, we wouldn't recommend it. :) -- Mike Crowe empeg ltd From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Feb 10 01:35:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id BAA19077; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:35:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLQ3VATXHE9JD4FD@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:35:32 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id QAA22542; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02009; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:31:00 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA12591; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA12586; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29029; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:30:08 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id QAA22626 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:27:53 +1100 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:27:52 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Re: About the Flash file system In-reply-to: <200002090915.KAA13663@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Erik Mouw Cc: lingsu@palmmicro.com, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > On Tue, 08 Feb 2000 19:07:11 -0800, Ling Su wrote: > >>From the website, I knew there is a Flash File System in Itsy's Linux port, > > could someone please tell me what is its name? Where I can found it? > The itsy site does talk about feature of the itsy kernel which haven't been merged into the current kernels. They mention a Flash File System as well as power management support. So I think to answer Ling's questions the Flash File System would be part of the kernel they have on their site. > I think you mean the ramdisk. You can find one at Nicolas Pitre's site: Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Feb 10 01:41:14 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id BAA19104; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:41:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLQ43BC2O69EDF71@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:41:12 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id QAA20879; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01808; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:37:43 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA12515; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:37:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA12593; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29521; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:37:34 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id QAA21525 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:36:28 +1100 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:36:15 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Re: Q.SA-1100 vs SA-1110? In-reply-to: <20000209182329.99712.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Grant R Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Grant R wrote: > Dear Group, > > Currently I'm studying computer science; as Linux is open-source it > seems to be an excellent study in OS internals and embedded systems via the > SA-1100. Having put the SA-1100 development board under considersation; I > would like to know if anyone has worked with the SA-1110 and if so how did > their experience with ArmLinux differ? According to Intel's web site, > "The SA-1110 differs from the SA-1100 only in the features of its memory and > PCMCIA controller." So, do I need to be worried if I purchase the SA-1110? My advice is check the pricing, avaliability and minimum quantities you can get of either. Also you cannot use the SA-1110 unless you can solder BGA parts to your PCBs, not as hard as sounds but you regire a) Your own gear to do it b) A friend or board packer to do it for you. In general rumours are that the SA-1110 will be cheaper and more avaliable, the SA-1100 has silicon bugs which won't be fixed and it apparently more expensive and harder to get due to production line problems. The SA-1100 comes in TQFP (Thin Quad Flat Pack) and mBGA (micro Ball Grid Array), the SA-1110 comes in only mBGA. The SA-1110 has a slightly functional memory controller, the most significant additions (IMHO) is the SDRAM support but there are other features added (see SA-1110 TRM). The support chips SA-1101 and SA-1111 for the SA-1100 and SA-1110 respectively have different functionality see their TRM (Technical Reference Manuals) for more information. Cheers Adam, The PLEB Guy From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Feb 10 01:45:15 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id BAA19121; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:45:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLQ488LQBM9JD4FD@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:45:13 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id QAA22869; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23649; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:41:58 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA12499; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:41:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA12612; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:41:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10730; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:41:50 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id QAA23285 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:41:45 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:39:48 +1100 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:39:45 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Re: Itsy's Cost In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Philip Blundell Cc: Adrian Silveanu , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk > You almost certainly don't want to try to solder these by hand. You need to > find someone with reflow equipment who is prepared to do single boards (which > will obviously mean manual placement). From experience I'll just qualify that statement. You don't want to solder it by hand without the right tools, Which is a Very good solder station and a micro-reflow tip. With making these boards you really want to outsorce what you don't have the tools to do locally. Outsourcing shouldn't be a problem if you have a board design you know works, the benifit of your own tools is you can fix problems locally which might be an issue if you get a board that hasn't been built properly or if you have problems with it later. Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Feb 10 03:44:06 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id DAA19612; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 03:44:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLQ8DN84PA9EDEUH@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 03:44:04 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id SAA32041; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08821; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:40:39 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA12657; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA12660; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00059; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:39:48 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id SAA00284 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:39:47 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:38:06 +1100 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:38:03 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Re: hello In-reply-to: <38A1A302.98F19C0A@siscom.net> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Brian Kraack Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Brian Kraack wrote: > Hello all, > The first thing I noticed is the claim that the touch screen and LCD are not > publicly available ... how did you work around this issue? On this front the LCD and touch screen are a major issue since they are standard interfaces. If you look at the TRM (Technical Reference Manual) for the SA-1100 you'll find that the LCD controler supports a large range of LCDs. Interfacing an LCD is trivial however the power supply circuits for LCDs are tightly bound to a particular LCD so you might have to get/design a power supply circuit for a LCD you get. Also you'll have to make it fit in the casing somehow. As for the Touch screen, they use the Philips UCB-1200 which supplies a standard 4 wire resistive touch screen interface. You might have problems getting a touch sceen full stop and then more problems finding one that fits your LCD. What I'm trying to say is the LCD and touch screen arnt a major issue to interface. So you can work with whatever you can get your hands on. Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Feb 11 18:38:40 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA01958; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:38:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLSHW44YU49EDGJ2@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:38:38 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA06690; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05401; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:34:23 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA14057; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA14058; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:31:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from stowe.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08481; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:31:28 -0800 Received: by stowe.pa.dec.com; (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AA26147; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:31:27 -0800 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:31:27 -0800 From: Deborah Wallach Subject: Re: hello In-reply-to: (awiggins@cse.unsw.edu.au) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: awiggins@cse.unsw.edu.au Cc: bkraack@siscom.net, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200002111731.AA26147@stowe.pa.dec.com> Precedence: bulk Address: Compaq Computer Corporation; Western Research Laboratory; 250 University Avenue; Palo Alto, CA 94301; USA Phone: 650-617-3315 > The first thing I noticed is the claim that the touch screen and LCD are not > publicly available ... how did you work around this issue? On this front the LCD and touch screen are a major issue since they are standard interfaces. If you look at the TRM (Technical Reference Manual) for the SA-1100 you'll find that the LCD controler supports a large range of LCDs. Interfacing an LCD is trivial however the power supply circuits for LCDs are tightly bound to a particular LCD so you might have to get/design a power supply circuit for a LCD you get. Also you'll have to make it fit in the casing somehow. As for the Touch screen, they use the Philips UCB-1200 which supplies a standard 4 wire resistive touch screen interface. You might have problems getting a touch sceen full stop and then more problems finding one that fits your LCD. What I'm trying to say is the LCD and touch screen arnt a major issue to interface. So you can work with whatever you can get your hands on. I've placed a mini-FAQ on the download page (http://www.research.compaq.com/wrl/itsy/download.html) which addresses these issues in more detail than was originally included in the release. Deborah Wallach Western Research Laboratory Compaq Computer Corporation From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Feb 14 00:45:47 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA12440; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 00:45:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JLVNAZ1EAE9EDI37@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 00:45:46 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA30743; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29271; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:42:05 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA15109; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:39:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA15094; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20822; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:39:23 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA31075 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:39:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA12417; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 00:37:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from erik@localhost) by kalman.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) id AAA12079; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 00:37:51 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 00:37:51 +0100 (CET) From: J.A.K.Mouw@ITS.TUDelft.NL (Erik Mouw) Subject: ANNOUNCE: Precompiled cross compiler Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-id: <200002132337.AAA12079@kalman.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! Hi all, Because a lot of people have problems building their own i386 --> arm cross-compiler I tarred up my own compiler and put it on a web page. You can get it at: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/arm-linux-cross/ The package contains gcc and g++ 2.95.2, glibc 2.1.2 with glibc-crypt and glibc-linux-threads, and binutils 2.9.5.0.22. The compiler was build on a i386 Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 system, which uses glibc-2.0.7. It works for me, YMMV. Please read the README file before you download the tarball. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Feb 18 07:08:53 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id HAA15290; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:08:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM1LU98JP69N434N@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:08:49 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id WAA01718; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:05:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24975; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:04:47 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA02467; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA02475; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19535; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:02:28 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id WAA28319 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:00:47 +1100 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:00:39 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Memory test programs Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'm after an algorithm for testing DRAM chips. Basically we've been having reliability problems with our memory boards for PLEB and I need quickly hand code some assembly memory tester program to test for stuck bits and aliases. We are using 2 banks of 16MB EDO DRAM, 32Bit wide. Any idea's or pointers? Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Feb 18 10:38:05 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA16559; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:38:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM1T5LCG9C9N45YN@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:38:02 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA16373; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:34:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23189; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:34:07 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA02606; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:33:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA02597; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:33:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01764; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:33:19 -0800 Received: from bastion.power-x.co.uk (bastion.power-x.co.uk [62.232.19.201]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id BAA13712 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:33:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from springhead.px.uk.com (IDENT:dg@springhead.px.uk.com [172.16.18.41]) by bastion.power-x.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01087; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:32:51 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:32:48 +0000 (GMT) From: "Dr. David Gilbert" Subject: Re: Memory test programs In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: dg@springhead.px.uk.com To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > Hi all, I'm after an algorithm for testing DRAM chips. Basically > we've been having reliability problems with our memory boards for PLEB and > I need quickly hand code some assembly memory tester program to test for > stuck bits and aliases. We are using 2 banks of 16MB EDO DRAM, 32Bit wide. > Any idea's or pointers? I find a good trick is to allocate as large a block of RAM you can; seed a random number generator with a known seed and remember the seed. Fill the RAM with the random numbers; reset the generator back to the original seed and run through the RAM again comparing. Then just leave it running. It worked a treat last time I had problems on my Alpha. Dave /------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Work:dg@px.uk.com +44-161-286-2000 Ex258| | -------- G7FHJ --------|---------------------------------------- | | Home: dave@treblig.org http://www.treblig.clara.net | \------------------------------------------------------------------/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Feb 18 13:44:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id NAA18159; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:44:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM1ZOA5VOW9OCVHS@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:44:50 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id EAA26684; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:41:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18619; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:41:09 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA02718; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:40:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA02711; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15935; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:40:38 -0800 Received: from eising.k-net.dk (eising.k-net.dtu.dk [130.225.71.227]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id EAA09662 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from obelix.vkr.k-net.dk (obelix.vkr.k-net.dk [192.38.209.3]) by eising.k-net.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F17E9184E for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:40:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by obelix.vkr.k-net.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:39:45 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:39:45 +0100 From: Anders Frederiksen Subject: RE: Memory test programs Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: Dr. David Gilbert [mailto:gilbertd@treblig.org] > On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > > Hi all, I'm after an algorithm for testing DRAM chips. Basically > > we've been having reliability problems with our memory > boards for PLEB and > > I need quickly hand code some assembly memory tester > program to test for > > stuck bits and aliases. We are using 2 banks of 16MB EDO > DRAM, 32Bit wide. > > Any idea's or pointers? > > I find a good trick is to allocate as large a block of RAM > you can; seed a > random number generator with a known seed and remember the > seed. Fill the > RAM with the random numbers; reset the generator back to the > original seed > and run through the RAM again comparing. Then just leave it running. > It worked a treat last time I had problems on my Alpha. > Dave Well that might do the trick. But in any case I'd start with walking bit (001 010 100 and inverted) shorts etc. checker pattern (010 101) for crosstalk / decoupling inversion (111 000) for max change: decoupling etc. The problem with random numbers is that you'll never "get through". The above approach targets the specific problems and can be finished in constant time. Maybe for DRAM it would be proper to add specific tests for address correctnes and refresh. Here a few runs of the random number approach would be fine. Anders PS: Sorry Dave! You got this twice - my mistake! From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Feb 18 17:20:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA19817; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:20:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM27732EYS9N466S@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:20:05 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA07123; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09528; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:15:34 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA02784; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:11:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA02766; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:11:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13581; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:11:52 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA21309 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:11:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:01:41 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Memory test programs In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-842151995-903431265-950889701=:2472" Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---842151995-903431265-950889701=:2472 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try the attached source. It assumes the serial port is already initialized. It should be called from assembly code since all ram memory is destroyed... or rejump into your bootloader entry point at the end. On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > Hi all, I'm after an algorithm for testing DRAM chips. Basically > we've been having reliability problems with our memory boards for PLEB and > I need quickly hand code some assembly memory tester program to test for > stuck bits and aliases. 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[10.128.5.25]) by tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id CYMGVYD7; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:16:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:17:45 -0500 From: Bill Pringlemeir Subject: Re: Memory test programs In-reply-to: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins"'s message of "Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:00:39 +1100 (EST)" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: Organization: noitazinagro MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk X-Home-Page: http://www.wwonline.com/~bpringle/ User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.5 Lines: 42 References: I am currently trying to code this for an SA1110 with SDRAM. Many people on comp.arch.embed have said that an LFSR is excellent. I just looked at some Xilinx appnotes. I think that you an use a prime polynomial to make the LFSR. This should work faster than an incongruential RNG as you use XOR, AND, rotate instead of multiply and add? Or will the MAC on the ARM beat this? I do agree with Anders that either LFSR or Incongruent RNGs are both not as good as walking bits etc. I have also seen AA - 55 tests as this will get address lines and adjacent data bits. I have seen very few cross-talk and decoupling problems. This would definitely be a design verification algorithm and not a POST type routine. Most common solder faults seem to be address lines and adjacent data bits. Other routines test for decoupling or cell problems. An exhaustive test would be to treat the memory as a huge number and keep incrementing and verifying. For 1Mbyte, the number is 2^(2^20*8) ~= 10^5814536. At 1 TeraHertz, this would take about 10^5814500 years to execute, which is probably billions of times longer than the age of the universe :-0 Please let me know how it goes. Bill >>>>> "Adam" == Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins writes: Adam> Hi all, I'm after an algorithm for testing DRAM Adam> chips. Basically we've been having reliability problems with Adam> our memory boards for PLEB and I need quickly hand code some Adam> assembly memory tester program to test for stuck bits and Adam> aliases. We are using 2 banks of 16MB EDO DRAM, 32Bit wide. Adam> Any idea's or pointers? -- Where ever you go, there you are. mafia_boy Albanian Legion of Doom plutonium strategic Ft. Meade PLO Ortega arrangements colonel munitions mafiaboy Soviet NSA From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Feb 18 18:25:43 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA20121; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:25:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM29HBN6VK9OCVIH@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:25:36 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA07721; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16772; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:20:40 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA02830; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA02827; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:14:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21812; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:14:31 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id JAA28195 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA20073; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:13:05 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:13:05 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: Memory test programs In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: awiggins@cse.unsw.edu.au, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200002181713.SAA20073@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:01:41 -0500 (EST), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > Try the attached source. It assumes the serial port is already > initialized. It should be called from assembly code since all ram memory > is destroyed... or rejump into your bootloader entry point at the end. > > On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > >> Hi all, I'm after an algorithm for testing DRAM chips. Basically >> we've been having reliability problems with our memory boards for PLEB and >> I need quickly hand code some assembly memory tester program to test for >> stuck bits and aliases. We are using 2 banks of 16MB EDO DRAM, 32Bit wide. >> Any idea's or pointers? Nico, I want to integrate your memory tester in BLOB (our bootloader), because having a memory tester in BLOB has been on our wish list for quite some time. BLOB is GPL'ed, so before I start hacking I'd like to know if it is OK with you if I stick a GPL license on your code. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Feb 18 21:25:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA20690; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:25:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM2FQV99EE9OCVIJ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:25:03 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA09644; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:22:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18936; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:21:24 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA02933; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:05:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA02936; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:05:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05262; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:05:27 -0800 Received: from blazieresearch.com (blazieresearch.com [199.227.113.99]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA23955 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:05:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpq800.blazieresearch.com (cpq800 [199.227.113.100]) by blazieresearch.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA13489 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:05:13 -0500 Received: by ispsl1-100.gate.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:04:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:03:57 -0500 From: Mike Reynolds Subject: SA1110 SDRAM and revison number Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <412E1CF8088BD211AD5100805FAD9A800B5AA7@ispsl1-100.gate.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hi all, Has anybody had any problems with the SA1110 ES (step A0) version in regards to the SDRAM controller? We have boards that have been populated with step A0 ( rev. 0) SA1110 and would like to know if there are major problems. The Intel spec updates list a couple of "minor" bugs, but I would like to hear from someone that has acutally used this version of the part with regards to the SDRAM controller. Thanks in advance. Mike Reynolds From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Feb 19 00:15:14 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA21182; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:15:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM2LOQXGOE9OCVIK@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:15:09 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA25508; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:12:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31901; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:11:30 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA02997; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:10:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA02994; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:10:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29846; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:10:57 -0800 Received: from tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com (mail.teklogix.com [207.219.2.10]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA21279 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:10:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from DeadDuck (BILL [10.128.5.25]) by tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id CYMGVZSS; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:09:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:10:23 -0500 From: Bill Pringlemeir Subject: Re: Memory test programs In-reply-to: Bill Pringlemeir's message of "18 Feb 2000 11:17:45 -0500" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: Organization: noitazinagro MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Precedence: bulk X-Home-Page: http://www.wwonline.com/~bpringle/ User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.5 Lines: 75 References: --=-=-= I finished the LFSR code. It is just a CRC32 applied over memory. Here is the assembler snippet for the gnu assembler. People can integrate it into any code they like. [start] crc32Poly: .long 0x04c11db7 memTest: /* Initial - fill memory */ mov r0,#DRAM_PHYSICAL add r1,r0,#DRAM_SIZE ldr r2,crc32Poly mov r3,#-1 mov r4,#1 10: orrs r3,r4,r3,lsl#1 eorcs r3,r3,r2 str r3,[r0], #4 cmp r0,r1 bne 10b /* Phase two, check */ mov r0,#DRAM_PHYSICAL mov r3,#-1 20: orrs r3,r4,r3,lsl #1 eorcs r3,r3,r2 ldr r5,[r0],#4 cmp r5,r3 bne memError cmp r0,r1 bne 20b mov pc,lr [end] I wrote some 'C' code to test out the length of this sequence. It is a full 4 GByte. So, this will be much the same as an address equals data test. However, it should have a wider variations of bit changes. This should catch some of the cross talk problems that Anders pointed out. The loop could be expanded. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=test.c Content-Description: Test code /* * Test sequence length of 32 bit CRC polynomial. * */ #include #include #define POLY (0x04c11db7U) int main(void) { unsigned long a = 0xffffffff; int i = 0, j = 0; do { if(!(i&(1024*1024-1))) { j++; printf("%d MB.\r",j); } // printf("%.8x,", a); // if((i%8)==7) // printf("\n"); if(a&0x80000000) { a <<= 1; a |= 1; a ^= POLY; } else { a <<=1; a |= 1; } i++; } while(0xffffffff != a); printf("\nSequence length is %d.\n", i); return 0; } --=-=-= hth, Bill >>>>> "Bill" == Bill Pringlemeir writes: Bill> I am currently trying to code this for an SA1110 with SDRAM. Bill> Many people on comp.arch.embed have said that an LFSR is Bill> excellent. I just looked at some Xilinx appnotes. I think Bill> that you an use a prime polynomial to make the LFSR. This Bill> should work faster than an incongruential RNG as you use Bill> XOR, AND, rotate instead of multiply and add? Or will the Bill> MAC on the ARM beat this? >>>>> "Adam" == Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins writes: Adam> Hi all, I'm after an algorithm for testing DRAM Adam> chips. Basically we've been having reliability problems with Adam> our memory boards for PLEB and I need quickly hand code some Adam> assembly memory tester program to test for stuck bits and Adam> aliases. We are using 2 banks of 16MB EDO DRAM, 32Bit wide. Adam> Any idea's or pointers? -- jihad FSF domestic disruption kibo CIA Mossad strategic Qaddafi cryptographic mafiaboy PLO munitions Honduras Peking radar --=-=-=-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Feb 20 00:46:41 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA24965; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:46:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM412Y6JQ49OCVWQ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:46:31 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA21809; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27755; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:42:51 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA03409; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:37:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA03412; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:37:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32658; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:37:43 -0800 Received: from mail.com (24.64.228.243.ab.wave.home.com [24.64.228.243]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA21359 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:37:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rayl@localhost) by mail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA11380; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:37:29 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:37:29 -0700 From: Ray L Subject: Re: Memory test programs In-reply-to: ; from awiggins@cse.unsw.edu.au on Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 05:00:39PM +1100 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: Ray Lehtiniemi Message-id: <20000219163729.E2433@optitech.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 05:00:39PM +1100, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > Hi all, I'm after an algorithm for testing DRAM chips. Basically > we've been having reliability problems with our memory boards for PLEB and > I need quickly hand code some assembly memory tester program to test for > stuck bits and aliases. We are using 2 banks of 16MB EDO DRAM, 32Bit wide. > Any idea's or pointers? http://reality.sgi.com/cbrady_denver/memtest86 it's x86 specific but has writeup about the theory -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ray Lehtiniemi (rayl@mail.com) (rayl@optitech.com) From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Feb 21 08:25:49 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id IAA28930; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:25:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM5VEQ3Z9M9OCWEB@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:25:46 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id XAA14229; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:21:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09065; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:20:15 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA03927; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:17:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA03926; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16349; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:17:42 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id XAA11351 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:17:13 +1100 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:17:13 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: lmbench ramdisk Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Someone mentioned there was a ramdisk around with a copy of lmbench on it. I've got Linux running on our PLEB hardware and would like to play with a few idea's to improve the context switch time. Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Feb 21 15:33:42 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA02667; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:33:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM69RQYQU29ULLD7@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:30:10 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA16022; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 06:11:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32208; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 06:11:02 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA04057; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 06:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA04041; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 06:10:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05392; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 06:10:26 -0800 Received: from court2.aleph1.co.uk (IDENT:root@aleph1.demon.co.uk [158.152.9.127]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA01989 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 06:10:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from chewy.aleph1.co.uk ([194.70.44.163]) by court2.aleph1.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12MtPR-0006ej-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:01:57 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:01:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Wookey Subject: Re: Memory test programs In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: X-Organization: Aleph One,Cambridge, UK. Tel +44 1223 811679 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.50] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Fri 18 Feb, Bill Pringlemeir wrote: > I do agree with Anders that either LFSR or Incongruent RNGs are > both not as good as walking bits etc. I have also seen AA - 55 > tests as this will get address lines and adjacent data bits. I > have seen very few cross-talk and decoupling problems. This would > definitely be a design verification algorithm and not a POST type > routine. Most common solder faults seem to be address lines and > adjacent data bits. Yes. I'd just say that from practical experience I can confirm the above. We have some code for fault-finding on our PC-cards which starts making no assumptions at all about what might be working and tries increasingly complicated things to try and spot problems. Shorted or clamped data/address lines due to solder bridges are most common and are best spotted as described above (AA 55 tests and walking bits). I didn't post the code as it's rather too specific to our unusual hardware to be much use as a basis for anything else. Wookey -- Aleph One Ltd, Bottisham, CAMBRIDGE, CB5 9BA, UK Tel (00 44) 1223 811679 work: http://www.aleph1.co.uk/ play: http://www.chaos.org.uk/~wookey/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Feb 21 18:15:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA03944; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:15:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM6G0DJT549YCG3J@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:15:07 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA32489; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:12:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12581; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:11:46 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA04109; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:11:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA04106; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:11:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16052; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:11:11 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id JAA12387 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:11:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:58:05 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Memory test programs In-reply-to: <200002181713.SAA20073@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: awiggins@cse.unsw.edu.au, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > Nico, I want to integrate your memory tester in BLOB (our bootloader), > because having a memory tester in BLOB has been on our wish list for quite > some time. BLOB is GPL'ed, so before I start hacking I'd like to know if > it is OK with you if I stick a GPL license on your code. Go for it. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Feb 21 22:13:23 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA05005; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:13:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM6OBPP9Z69YCG42@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:13:19 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA30302; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:10:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19538; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:09:44 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA04187; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA04171; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:08:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17624; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:08:33 -0800 Received: from NT_Server.flatpanels.com (flatpanels.com [207.196.69.66]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA07472 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:08:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by flatpanels.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 16:06:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 16:05:55 -0500 From: "Saxena, Nikita" Subject: XFree86 port... Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: <91B07CA588CED3118CFE00105AC97594D0C3@flatpanels.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Greetings, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find a port of XFree86 for an SA1100 based system like Brutus? Thanks, Nikita From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Feb 21 23:03:30 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA05200; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 23:03:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM6Q2OZ8BW9YCG42@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 23:03:19 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA01779; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26922; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:59:51 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA04216; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:59:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA04206; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:59:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from stowe.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26229; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:59:36 -0800 Received: by stowe.pa.dec.com; (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AA15672; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:59:36 -0800 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:59:36 -0800 From: Deborah Wallach Subject: Re: XFree86 port... In-reply-to: <91B07CA588CED3118CFE00105AC97594D0C3@flatpanels.com> (NSaxena@flatpanels.com) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: NSaxena@flatpanels.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200002212159.AA15672@stowe.pa.dec.com> Precedence: bulk Address: Compaq Computer Corporation; Western Research Laboratory; 250 University Avenue; Palo Alto, CA 94301; USA Phone: 650-617-3315 I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find a port of XFree86 for an SA1100 based system like Brutus? XFree86 runs on the Itsy (a SA1100-based system, see http://www.research.compaq.com/wrl/itsy). The source code for the Itsy port is included in the latest snapshots (for example, check out ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/snapshots/3.9.17/). Deborah Wallach Western Research Laboratory Compaq Computer Corporation From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Feb 22 22:09:16 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA13169; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:09:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM82GZ9KXK8ZDV99@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:09:13 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA19357; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:05:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23414; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:05:14 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA04613; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:02:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA04542; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:02:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18742; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:02:33 -0800 Received: from msexch01.diebold.com (eliot.diebold.com [204.151.249.21]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA12996 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by msexch01.diebold.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:00:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:00:42 -0500 From: "Plentovich, Dave" Subject: build arm-linux Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hello. I need some assistance in building a "C" xdev toolchain (ELF) for StrongARM (specifically BRUTUS). I have read the Intel notes, Philip Blundell's page and Chris Rutter's page but I am still having trouble picking the correct tool versions. Can anyone fill in the blanks for the latest toolchain version set that works/builds together? 1) binutils-???.tar.gz 2) binutils-???-diff-???.gz 3) linux-???.tar.gz 4) patch-???-rmk?.gz 5) diff-???-rmk?-np?.gz 6) gcc-???.tar.gz (or egcs?) 7) gcc-???-diff-???.gz (or egcs?) 8) glibc-???.tar.gz 9) glibc-linuxthreads-???.tar.gz 10) glibc-crypt-???.tar.gz I have built the latest GCC cross-compiler using one-tree-1.6.sh and build-cross.sh (binutil-2.9.1, gcc-2.95.2, newlib-1.8.2). The toolchain built/installed correctly but it only builds arm-linux-aout and arm-linux-coff binaries, not arm-linux (ELF). Thanks for your help. Best regards, David Plentovich DIEBOLD Self-Service Systems, Dept. 9-53-3 (330)490-5092, FAX(330)490-4508, plentod@diebold.com 5995 Mayfair Road, North Canton, OH, 44720, USA From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Feb 22 22:57:19 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA13339; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:57:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM845HWCU48ZDV9F@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:57:15 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA17003; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09240; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:54:01 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA04624; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:53:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA04639; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06913; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:53:48 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA16884 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:53:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA13305; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:52:28 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:52:28 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: build arm-linux In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: PlentoD@diebold.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200002222152.WAA13305@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:00:42 -0500, Plentovich, Dave wrote: > Hello. I need some assistance in building a "C" xdev toolchain (ELF) for > StrongARM (specifically BRUTUS). I have read the Intel notes, Philip > Blundell's page and Chris Rutter's page but I am still having trouble picking > the correct tool versions. Can anyone fill in the blanks for the latest > toolchain version set that works/builds together? > > 1) binutils-???.tar.gz > 2) binutils-???-diff-???.gz > 3) linux-???.tar.gz > 4) patch-???-rmk?.gz > 5) diff-???-rmk?-np?.gz > 6) gcc-???.tar.gz (or egcs?) > 7) gcc-???-diff-???.gz (or egcs?) > 8) glibc-???.tar.gz > 9) glibc-linuxthreads-???.tar.gz > 10) glibc-crypt-???.tar.gz This is a known to work combination (I made two toolchains with it): binutils-2.9.5.0.22.tar.bz2 linux-2.2.13.tar.gz patch-2.2.13-rmk2.gz diff-2.2.13-rmk2-np14.gz gcc-2.95.2.tar.gz gcc-2.95.2-diff-991022.gz chris-rutter-patch-for-gcc-2.95.2 (the one on Chris' page) glibc-crypt-2.1.tar.gz glibc-linuxthreads-2.1.2.tar.bz2 You can also use gcc-2.95.3-diff, this will obsolete gcc-2.95.2-diff and Chris Rutters patch. If you don't want to build it yourself, you can download my precompiled version at: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/arm-linux-cross/ Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Feb 23 11:29:16 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA16784; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:29:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JM8UETCMU88WW0F9@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:29:13 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id CAA09968; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 02:25:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07105; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 02:25:04 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA04754; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 02:23:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA04851; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 02:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12219; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 02:23:16 -0800 Received: from asustpe3.ASUS.COM.TW ([192.72.126.36]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id CAA11707 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 02:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by bak.asus.com.tw with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:33:38 +0800 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:33:31 +0800 From: Eric_Liu@asus.com.tw Subject: RE: XFree86 port... Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="BIG5" Precedence: bulk Dear Deborah, I'm trying to find a small X to run on Brutus board, and I've tried to build the Itsy X of xfree86-3.9.17 after seeing your post. I found that Itsy X can not be built by arm linux cross-compile toolchain which can correctly build Linux OS image and APs for Brutus. What should I do to build the Itsy X correctly? My env now is.. x86 PC, RedHat 6.1, arm-linux cross-compile toolchain with Linux-2.2.14, binutils-2.9.5.0.22, gcc-2.95.2, glibc-2.1.2. The work I've done now: 1. Add definition of BuildFonts NO, XItsyServer YES, KDriveXServer YES in config. 2. Modify paths in itsy.cf to proper path. But there is one INCLUDE path named "xxx/lib/gcc-include", I can not find related directory on my system, I guess it's "xxx/sys-include". 3. Untar the linux-3.0.tgz downloading from Compaq site. Link the "xxx/arm-linux/include/asm" and "xxx/arm-linux/include/linux" into linux-3.0. Is it right? What else should I do? Any hint or suggestion will be appreciated. -- Eric Liu > -----Original Message----- > From: Deborah Wallach [mailto:kerr@pa.dec.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 6:00 AM > To: NSaxena@flatpanels.com > Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > Subject: Re: XFree86 port... > > > > I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find a port of > XFree86 for an > SA1100 based system like Brutus? > > XFree86 runs on the Itsy (a SA1100-based system, see > http://www.research.compaq.com/wrl/itsy). 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I am trying to trouble shoot some issues I have with the PCMCIA port on Brutus and I'm not sure if my PCMCIA interface[Brutus] is to fault, or my PCMCIA hardware. I have a 3COM Etherlink III NIC+Modem and a CompactFlash card which I can put in a type II CF to PCMCIA adaptor. Will either of these at least be IDed by the Linux kernel w/card services? (The CF card should appear as a ATA FlashDisk to the PCMCIA drivers...). I don't have my toolchain setup yet, so I can't make such a kernel myself. Thanks, Vasant. P.S. I'd be more than willing to describe my problems to whom ever is interested. From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Feb 24 15:39:21 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA04816; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:39:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMAHF8D2NY8WW3LT@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:39:19 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA14819; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15721; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:34:40 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA05423; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:34:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA05400; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:34:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AB09997; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:33:59 -0800 Received: from smtp1.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP1.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.81]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA05745 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:33:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from unix5.andrew.cmu.edu (UNIX5.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.15.9]) by smtp1.andrew.cmu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA09364 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:30:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:30:36 -0500 (EST) From: John G Dorsey Subject: Re: Brutus w/CardServices In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Vasant Ramasubramanian wrote: > Could someone kindly send me a Brutus kernel that has PCMCIA socket > services enabled? I am trying to trouble shoot some issues I have with the > PCMCIA port on Brutus and I'm not sure if my PCMCIA interface[Brutus] is > to fault, or my PCMCIA hardware. In general, there will be no kernel changes required to support PCMCIA if you're planning to use Card Services for Linux. (CS is implemented by a handful of kernel modules and a userland manager.) > I have a 3COM Etherlink III NIC+Modem and a CompactFlash card which I can > put in a type II CF to PCMCIA adaptor. Will either of these at least be > IDed by the Linux kernel w/card services? (The CF card should appear as a > ATA FlashDisk to the PCMCIA drivers...). On an Itsy, I've seen a 3c589d (EtherLink III) pass the CIS ID check. > I don't have my toolchain setup yet, so I can't make such a kernel myself. Unfortunately, your request comes about a month or so early. =( Card Services for StrongARM: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~wearable/software/ I've been working with the author/maintainer of the standard Card Services distribution to add support for embedded-style socket controllers. The catch on the SA-1100 (and, to a lesser extent, on the MPC8xx) is the sheer amount of board-specific configuration that must occur for the socket driver to function. (There are at least thirty implementation features which can differ across designs.) The idea behind the StrongARM patch against Card Services is to produce a socket driver which could be distributed in binary form, and run on any board via a concise, userland configuration interface. Two other things which might be of use to you: - About a month ago, on this list, another group announced a Brutus-only alteration of an older version of Card Services. The URL is in the README.sa1100 file of Card Services for StrongARM. - If all you want to do is dump the CIS on your PCMCIA card (that's how the card is identified), you can do that in about twenty lines of C tossed into your kernel setup routine. Again, see README.sa1100 in the patch for more information. So, returning to my comment about your request being early: I don't have anything yet which is known to run on Brutus. The configuration interface should be within earshot of handling Brutus, but no one has reported success (or even an attempt). For right now, it seems like most of your options involve a working toolchain. I'd like to ask anyone who has a day or so that they can afford to waste to take a look at the StrongARM patch and at least try to get a CIS dump on Brutus. (I've tried to get a Brutus board from Intel, but the well seems to be dry.) For those who are interested, SA-1110/SA-1111 development hardware will allegedly be winging its way east some time soon. The next release of Card Services for StrongARM will probably focus on that, kernel 2.3, and a better userland configuration front-end. -jd From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Feb 24 16:15:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA05095; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:15:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMAIOJ8TKQ8ZDVLK@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:15:01 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA17794; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:12:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18254; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:11:40 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA05440; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:11:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA05443; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:11:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06557; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:11:11 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA10342 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:11:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:01:31 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Brutus w/CardServices In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Vasant Ramasubramanian Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Vasant Ramasubramanian wrote: > Could someone kindly send me a Brutus kernel that has PCMCIA socket > services enabled? I am trying to trouble shoot some issues I have with the > PCMCIA port on Brutus and I'm not sure if my PCMCIA interface[Brutus] is > to fault, or my PCMCIA hardware. PCMCIA for Brutus is still on my TODO list. There are different patches around, but some work is required. You are on your own for now. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Feb 24 16:21:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA05158; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:21:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMAIWYYON48WW3LT@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:21:52 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA11436; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:19:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12960; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:18:35 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA05461; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:18:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA05460; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:18:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13732; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:18:17 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA16583 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:18:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:05:18 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: how download,boot new kernel on SA1110 In-reply-to: <20000224104933.76223.qmail@sina.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: daihbxd Cc: "sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 24 Feb -1, daihbxd wrote: > > > I successfully download the kernel to my SA1110 Evalution Board with > angelboot and reset the target system,but nothing showed up on the LCD.Should the opts file be modified? Didn't put my hands on a SA1110 yet so can't help you much. However the problem is unlikely to be in your opt file. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Feb 24 18:13:24 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA05861; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:13:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMAMT6FMKM8WW27F@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:13:20 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA16956; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05551; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:09:57 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA05516; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA05487; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:08:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28277; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:08:43 -0800 Received: from hw-mail.hoeft-wessel.de (pC19F3FBB.dip.t-dialin.net [193.159.63.187]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id JAA27382 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by HW_MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:07:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:07:45 +0100 From: "JOR. - Jordan, Roman" Subject: AW: how download,boot new kernel on SA1110 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'DAIHBXD@SINA.COM'" Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: <81413F587EB9D1118F56000092941A3EA78C35@HW_MAIL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Hi, some time ago i walked to the arm kernel sources. There is one point, = were the system get the processor id. The sa1110 has not the same like the sa1100. Perhaps thats the problem? regards, Roman Jordan -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Postmaster=20 Gesendet am: Thursday, February 24, 2000 16:33 An: JOR. - Jordan, Roman Betreff: WG: how download,boot new kernel on SA1110 > ---------- > Von: Nicolas Pitre[SMTP:NICO@CAM.ORG] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Februar 2000 16:05:18 > An: daihbxd > Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > Betreff: Re: how download,boot new kernel on SA1110 > Diese Nachricht wurde automatisch von einer Regel weitergeleitet. >=20 >=20 >=20 On Thu, 24 Feb -1, daihbxd wrote: >=20 >=20 > I successfully download the kernel to my SA1110 Evalution Board with > angelboot and reset the target system,but nothing showed up on the LCD.Should the opts file be modified? Didn't put my hands on a SA1110 yet so can't help you much. However = the problem is unlikely to be in your opt file. =20 Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Feb 24 11:53:35 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA03177; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:53:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMA9JC56R48ZDVCM@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:53:32 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id CAA29621; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:50:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21817; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:49:59 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA05333; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA05330; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:49:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23356; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:49:03 -0800 Received: from sina.com ([202.106.187.154]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id CAA27527 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:49:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 76226 invoked by uid 99); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:49:33 +0000 Date: Thu Feb 24 18:49:33 CST 2000 From: daihbxd Subject: how download,boot new kernel on SA1110 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com" Message-id: <20000224104933.76223.qmail@sina.com> X-Mailer: SinaMail 3.0Beta (FireToad) Precedence: bulk I successfully download the kernel to my SA1110 Evalution Board with angelboot and reset the target system,but nothing showed up on the LCD.Should the opts file be modified? Regards. David ______________________________________ =================================================================== PB@KCb7Q5gWSSJOd http://mail.sina.com.cn From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Feb 25 02:04:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA07504; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:04:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMB38PVGN68WW4T6@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:03:58 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA01326; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:00:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29287; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:59:57 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA05684; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA05688; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:58:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from stowe.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06658; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:58:43 -0800 Received: by stowe.pa.dec.com; (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AA21517; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:58:43 -0800 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:58:43 -0800 From: Deborah Wallach Subject: Re: XFree86 port... In-reply-to: (Eric_Liu@asus.com.tw) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Eric_Liu@asus.com.tw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200002250058.AA21517@stowe.pa.dec.com> Precedence: bulk Address: Compaq Computer Corporation; Western Research Laboratory; 250 University Avenue; Palo Alto, CA 94301; USA Phone: 650-617-3315 I'm trying to find a small X to run on Brutus board, and I've tried to build the Itsy X of xfree86-3.9.17 after seeing your post. I found that Itsy X can not be built by arm linux cross-compile toolchain which can correctly build Linux OS image and APs for Brutus. What should I do to build the Itsy X correctly? My env now is.. x86 PC, RedHat 6.1, arm-linux cross-compile toolchain with Linux-2.2.14, binutils-2.9.5.0.22, gcc-2.95.2, glibc-2.1.2. The work I've done now: 1. Add definition of BuildFonts NO, XItsyServer YES, KDriveXServer YES in config. 2. Modify paths in itsy.cf to proper path. But there is one INCLUDE path named "xxx/lib/gcc-include", I can not find related directory on my system, I guess it's "xxx/sys-include". 3. Untar the linux-3.0.tgz downloading from Compaq site. Link the "xxx/arm-linux/include/asm" and "xxx/arm-linux/include/linux" into linux-3.0. Is it right? What else should I do? Any hint or suggestion will be appreciated. I've never built it myself, only used it. I believe that when it was built for the Itsy (before it was distributed with xfree86), it used our environment: x86 PC, ancient cross-compile toolchain based on egcs-2.91.66 19990325/philb (egcs-1.1.2 release), linux-2.0.30, libc-2.1, etc. I don't know what "xxx/lib/gcc-include" is supposed to refer to; I don't see that directory on my system either. I've forwarded your message on to people who might be able to help. -Deborah Wallach From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Feb 25 05:56:20 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA08174; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 05:56:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMBBCRIBXC8ZDVMG@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 05:56:17 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA17965; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 20:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00426; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 20:52:52 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA05791; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 20:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA05789; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 20:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29233; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 20:52:08 -0800 Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id UAA12777 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 20:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id NAA09336 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:52:05 +0900 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:51:51 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii Subject: kaffe & NEWFPE trouble Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <38B60A672F6.957DHIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Hello! I met trouble , when try Caffeinemark. syslogd out following message; NWFPE: Kaffe[52] takes exception 00000014 at c00d4c74 from 400be294 What's mean? I use kaffe-1.0.5, linux-2.3.35-rmk1-np5. Regards; ---- Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD Hiroshi Ishii From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Feb 25 10:53:20 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA09561; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:53:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMBLPY2Z7Y8ZDVMN@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:53:17 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA02675; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 01:49:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14845; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 01:48:43 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA05878; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 01:46:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA05859; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 01:46:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13589; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 01:46:31 -0800 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (mail@tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id BAA31068 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 01:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 12OHKH-00023B-00; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:46:21 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:46:21 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: kaffe & NEWFPE trouble In-reply-to: Message from Hiroshi Ishii "of Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:51:51 +0900." <38B60A672F6.957DHIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Hiroshi Ishii Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <38B60A672F6.957DHIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> >syslogd out following message; >NWFPE: Kaffe[52] takes exception 00000014 at c00d4c74 from 400be294 > >What's mean? Your program performed some illegal floating point operation. (This isn't always fatal; Kaffe might trap SIGFPE and take some evasive action.) To decode the message: the first hex number is the exception code, made up from these bits: #define BIT_IXC 0x00000010 /* inexact exception flag */ #define BIT_UFC 0x00000008 /* underflow exception flag */ #define BIT_OFC 0x00000004 /* overfloat exception flag */ #define BIT_DZC 0x00000002 /* divide by zero exception flag */ #define BIT_IOC 0x00000001 /* invalid operation exception flag */ The second bit of hex is the address in NWFPE where the exception was raised, and the third is the address in the program (in this case, in some shared library) where the offending instruction is situated. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Feb 25 13:25:14 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id NAA10672; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:25:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMBR1BCH8I8WW5I8@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:25:11 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id EAA08513; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 04:13:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12489; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 04:13:14 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA05914; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 04:12:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA05917; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 04:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03219; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 04:12:44 -0800 Received: from hw-mail.hoeft-wessel.de (pD4B9D0B4.dip.t-dialin.net [212.185.208.180]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id EAA10814 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 04:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by HW_MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:12:42 +0100 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:12:37 +0100 From: "JOR. - Jordan, Roman" Subject: information about arm linux Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: <81413F587EB9D1118F56000092941A3EA78C38@HW_MAIL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hi, i have some questions about arm linux for sa1100 and sa1110. In my comany are many qeustions about linux (or a embedded version of it) and internet. I read that digital has published his sources for a Xfree adaption. Is there any one, who has successfully run this xfree version on his strongarm based hardware? It is possible to get 'kde' on it (so it could be possible to run an browser)? Are there any other plans to integrate a browser in the arm port of xfree (Netscape ??). Thanks in advance Roman From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Feb 25 22:42:25 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA13225; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 22:42:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMCAI1GMTI8WW6V8@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 22:42:22 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA17813; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:39:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27155; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:38:32 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA06108; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:37:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA06105; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03452; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:37:54 -0800 Received: from crlwebmail.crl.dec.com (crlwebmail.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.2]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id QAA08263 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:37:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by crlwebmail.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:41:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:38:09 -0500 From: George France Subject: Binary tar ball of i386 to armv4l (Strong-ARM) Cross Tool Chain available for download. Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk > There have been so many questions and problems on the mailing list about > building a Cross Tool Chain. We have decided to post a 38 Mbyte binary > (executable) tar-ball here: > > > http://crl.research.compaq.com/projects/personalserver/sw_download.html > > it is an arm-linux cross Tool Chain. The Tool Chain is made up of: > > binutils-2.9.5.0.22, > gcc-2.95.2 - C, C++, f77, CHILL, java and objc. > glibc-2.1.2. with the International crypt library. (THIS IS NOT FOR > EXPORT) > > The Tool Chain is compiled for a i386 host with an armv4l target. Armv4 = > the instructions set for the SA-110, SA-1100 and SA-1110 processors. l = > little edian. > > > Installation notes: > > The Tool Chain must be installed in /skiff/local. It will not work from > any other path. > > The only other problem that you may have with the include files is that > the tar ball was setup for Linux 2.2.14. You may need to setup a symbolic > links for: > > ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm > /skiff/local/arm-linux/include/asm > ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux > /skiff/local/arm-linux/include/linux > > or you could copy the /usr/src/linux/include/asm and > /usr/src/linux/include/linux directories to the > /skiff/local/arm-linux/include. Be certain that you have run 'make > menuconfig' or equivalent, then 'make dep'. This will verify that your > kernel tree is up-to-date and the correct symbolic links are up-to-date. > > This tool chain has glibc symbol versioning. If you are using a > netwinder, you may have to compile your code with static libs. > > > > If there is interest, we may make a binary i386 to Strong-ARM cross gdb > available for remote debugging. > > > --George > > > George France, france@crl.dec.com > Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation > One Kendall Square, Building 700 MS: CRL > Cambridge, MA 02139 USA > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Feb 28 20:13:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA26958; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:13:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMGC62W5XO90MVGD@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:13:06 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA27164; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:09:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15977; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:09:17 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA07256; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pachyderm.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA07265; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:06:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by pachyderm.pa.dec.com; id LAA07798; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:06:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:06:28 -0800 (PST) From: jg@pa.dec.com (Jim Gettys) Subject: Re: information about arm linux Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200002281906.LAA07798@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pachyderm (client lkgdhcp-20-64-75.lkg.dec.com, user jg) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk The Itsy X server code has been integrated into the development branch of XFree86 as of 3.9.17 (current version is 3.9.18a). Itsy has a 4 bit/pixel grayscale "dumb" framebuffer. What is most interesting about the code now in XFree86 is that the frame buffer code is Keith Packard's new FB code, which uses about .5 megabytes less code space, and supports all depths that the server needs. This is more desirable than the existing mfb/cfb code in the X server: it is generally faster as well as being smaller (there are alot more CPU instructions / memory or buss cycle now). Note that this is frame buffer code: if your display has accelerator hardware, you may want to do more work to take advantage of it. I think Keith Packard has run this code on an Itsy: I plan to do so as well sometime in the next week or two, though I'll be targetting a different display eventually. As to KDE, dunno: KDE seems to be a memory hog, though I don't know yet if gnome is much smaller. Also on my investigation list. A port of Mozilla is probably the right long term way to get a browser: there are other possibilities out there as well. - Jim -- Jim Gettys Technology and Corporate Development Compaq Computer Corporation jg@pa.dec.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Feb 28 22:09:03 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA27531; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:09:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMGG7T8EQW91VRNN@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:09:02 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA24321; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:06:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12995; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:05:38 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA07311; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA07319; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21166; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:04:54 -0800 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (mail@tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA02170; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:04:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 12PXHy-0000W3-00; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:01:10 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:01:10 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: information about arm linux In-reply-to: Message from jg@pa.dec.com (Jim Gettys) of "Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:06:28 PST." <200002281906.LAA07798@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: jg@pa.dec.com (Jim Gettys) Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <200002281906.LAA07798@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> >A port of Mozilla is probably the right long term way to get a browser: >there are other possibilities out there as well. Mozilla should already run on StrongARM; I don't think any special porting ought to be needed for Itsy. It's pretty large, though p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Feb 28 22:16:32 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA27562; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:16:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMGGH3Q8TK91VRNN@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:16:31 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA05257; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:13:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10824; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:13:15 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA07364; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:13:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA07357; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:13:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13181; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:13:08 -0800 Received: from mailgate.keith-koep.com (root@mailgate.keith-koep.com [195.8.230.32]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA04159 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:13:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from otto (otto [195.8.230.40]) by mailgate.keith-koep.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA17807 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:16:01 +0100 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:12:08 +0100 (MET) From: keith Subject: Re: information about arm linux Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: keith Message-id: <200002282116.WAA17807@mailgate.keith-koep.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: t44kOeHj3RxBIya7vSIlEQ== Precedence: bulk Hi Jim, as the framebuffer device interface was modified from 2.0 to 2.2, it would be interesting to know: is the X Server running on linux 2.0.3 only or does it fit to 2.2 too ? Do you think a port for 8 bpp is a big issue ? From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Feb 28 22:15:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA27558; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:15:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMGGGC9WQ090MVMH@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:15:55 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA25383; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:13:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03473; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:12:46 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA07330; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:12:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from pachyderm.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA07315; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:12:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by pachyderm.pa.dec.com; id NAA12542; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:12:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:12:34 -0800 (PST) From: jg@pa.dec.com (Jim Gettys) Subject: Re: information about arm linux In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip Blundell Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200002282112.NAA12542@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pachyderm (client lkgdhcp-20-64-75.lkg.dec.com, user jg) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk I'm not (yet) set up to perform the experiment, though probably will be soon (in a few weeks). Previously, Netscape was so leaky of memory that any constrained environment was pretty hopeless. I gather that Mozilla is not as horiffic as Netscape. Do you have a statistics on the sizes of the various libraries that compose Mozilla? - Jim > From: Philip Blundell > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:01:10 +0000 > To: jg@pa.dec.com (Jim Gettys) > Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > Subject: Re: information about arm linux > ----- > >A port of Mozilla is probably the right long term way to get a browser: > >there are other possibilities out there as well. > > Mozilla should already run on StrongARM; I don't think any special porting > ought to be needed for Itsy. It's pretty large, though > > p. -- Jim Gettys Technology and Corporate Development Compaq Computer Corporation jg@pa.dec.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Feb 28 22:27:51 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA27610; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:27:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMGGV3UZSY90MVMH@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:27:49 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA03542; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:25:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20085; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:24:40 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA07361; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA07346; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29072; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:24:30 -0800 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (mail@tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA04622; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 12PXeO-0000eu-00; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:24:20 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:24:20 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: information about arm linux In-reply-to: Message from jg@pa.dec.com (Jim Gettys) of "Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:12:34 PST." <200002282112.NAA12542@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: jg@pa.dec.com (Jim Gettys) Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <200002282112.NAA12542@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> >Previously, Netscape was so leaky of memory that any constrained environment >was pretty hopeless. I gather that Mozilla is not as horiffic as Netscape. Yes. The Mozilla folks take leaks rather seriously. >Do you have a statistics on the sizes of the various libraries that >compose Mozilla? I can certainly try to gather some. For what it's worth, a freshly loaded mozilla looks like this in `ps': USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND philb 21350 22.2 26.7 31556 21104 pts/1 S 21:18 0:40 ./viewer (This is on armv3) p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 2 15:22:39 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA15835; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:22:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMK8VXBRZO984JGY@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:22:36 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA27169; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30968; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:18:30 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA08440; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA08457; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:16:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21175; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:16:04 -0800 Received: from blazieresearch.com ([216.85.232.66]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA12310 for ; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpq800.blazieresearch.com (cpq800 [216.85.232.67]) by blazieresearch.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA06407 for ; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:15:56 -0500 Received: by CPQ800 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:14:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:14:09 -0500 From: Mike Reynolds Subject: flash serial downloader Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: <412E1CF8088BD211AD5100805FAD9A800B5AB2@CPQ800> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hi all, Has anybody developed a serial port flash downloader with the gnu toolchain? I am presently using the Intel Strataflash. Thanks Mike Reynolds From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 2 15:35:45 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA15898; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:35:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMK9C44PYM984JNK@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:35:40 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA10312; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:33:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30443; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:32:29 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA08466; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:32:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA08484; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:32:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19917; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:32:22 -0800 Received: from mailgate.keith-koep.com (root@mailgate.keith-koep.com [195.8.230.32]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA27217 for ; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from otto (otto [195.8.230.40]) by mailgate.keith-koep.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA03777 for ; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:37:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:31:50 +0100 (MET) From: keith Subject: Re: flash serial downloader Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: keith Message-id: <200003021437.PAA03777@mailgate.keith-koep.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-MD5: GIfBNy2bQGFRPkfauYZ6og== Precedence: bulk Hi=20 we have a bootp/tftp bootstrap loader. It is designed to load via ethernet. We extended it with our=04gdb-stub code. So it=20 should be possible do download with a gdb. But we did not test it yet to download via gdb on a serial line.=20 As the packets come to the serial port when no ethernet-card is=20 attached it should work out of the box.=20 We are using different kinds of flash. Our lastest bootstrap of course supports the 28F128J3. 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X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:14:09 -0500, Mike Reynolds wrote: > Has anybody developed a serial port flash downloader with the gnu toolchain? > I am presently using the Intel Strataflash. Yes, you BLOB, the LART bootloader has been developed with the GNU toolchain. Have a look at: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/blob/ BLOB currently only works with Intel DT28F160F3B120 Fast Boot Block Flash, unless Adam Wiggins has ported it to use the Flash chips on the PLEB board. Erik -- In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they are different -- Larry McVoy From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 8 11:33:31 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA19444; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:33:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMSEMVR5P29BVD2O@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:33:25 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id CAA16231; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 02:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29836; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 02:27:53 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA10872; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 02:23:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA10837; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 02:23:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30156; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 02:23:33 -0800 Received: from eising.k-net.dk (eising.k-net.dtu.dk [130.225.71.227]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id CAA14830 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 02:23:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from obelix.vkr.k-net.dk (obelix.vkr.k-net.dk [192.38.209.3]) by eising.k-net.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F00B9180B for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:23:33 +0100 (CET) Received: by obelix.vkr.k-net.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:23:14 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:23:12 +0100 From: Anders Frederiksen Subject: A lot of questions... Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Right on: Where can the SA1100-linux mailing list archives be found? I'm considering implementing an external DMA-controller for the SA1100. The question is whether the processor will be able to use the time off the bus efficiently. I guess, in most cases the SA1100 will encounter a cache miss and halt until the buscontrol is restored? Which would render the DMAC a complete waste of time (my time and CPU time ;) We've build the cross-compiler and the arm-linux kernel for Brutus as described by Intel. Never the less we have encountered some problems using the angelboot_old.tgz to download and run applications. We receive an error when running the "go" script. "Received 1d when expecting start packet.*" Is there a (up to date) version of the angel boot-loader which will make my day or an option we have missed? Thanx for your time! Regards, Anders Frederiksen From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 8 12:59:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id MAA20018; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:59:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMSHM2PZ5K9BVD33@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:59:04 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id DAA23356; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 03:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22242; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 03:53:46 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA10896; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 03:52:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA10892; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 03:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06878; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 03:52:39 -0800 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id DAA24584 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 03:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.0.0.67] ident=mail) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12Sf1v-000351-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:53:31 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=mail) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12Sf0O-0003NI-00; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:51:56 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain ident=pb) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12Sf0O-0002E6-00; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:51:56 +0000 Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:51:56 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: A lot of questions... In-reply-to: Message from Anders Frederiksen "of Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:23:12 +0100." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Anders Frederiksen Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: >Where can the SA1100-linux mailing list archives be found? http://www.armlinux.org/~webmail/sa1100-linux/ They don't go back all that far at the moment; I'll add some older messages when I get a chance. >I'm considering implementing an external DMA-controller for the SA1100. >The question is whether the processor will be able to use the time off >the bus efficiently. I guess, in most cases the SA1100 will encounter a >cache miss and halt until the buscontrol is restored? Which would render >the DMAC a complete waste of time (my time and CPU time ;) Depends what your cache locality is like, really, and how long DMA bursts last for. I forget what the SA-1100 bus interface looks like, but you might be able to arrange for DMA to split a burst when the CPU wants to perform an access. >an error when running the "go" script. "Received 1d when expecting start >packet.*" That usually indicates some problem in your serial port configuration, or Angel not actually running on the remote end, in my experience. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 8 13:20:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id NAA20178; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:20:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMSIDYG2OE99DME0@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:20:49 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id EAA18829; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18401; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:16:12 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA10908; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:15:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA10913; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05366; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:15:52 -0800 Received: from ms1.yeah.net ([202.106.185.105]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id EAA23924 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:15:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by ms1.yeah.net (Postfix, from userid 60001) id 219191C6F99E0; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 20:14:21 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 20:14:21 +0800 (CST) From: zhuf@yeah.net Subject: linux resources Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <38C6441D.18177@ms3.yeah.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail1.digital.com id EAA23924 X-Priority: 3 Dear Mr:=0D =0D I cannot get those linux tools from hyperlinks in intel's website.=0D =0D It may be out-of-date.=0D =0D Could you help me?=0D =0D Thank you.=0D =0D Best regards.=0D =0D Beetle=0D =0D ___________________________________________________________________ =CD=C6=BC=F6=A3=A1EaseBand( http://easeband.163.com )=C8=C3=C4=E3=C7=E1=CB= =C9=C9=CF=CD=F8=A1=A3 From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 8 14:25:46 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA20655; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:25:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMSKNIHVGA9BVDAA@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:25:44 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id FAA29512; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 05:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11182; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 05:21:03 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA10835; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 05:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA10934; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 05:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00094; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 05:19:55 -0800 Received: from msexch01.diebold.com (eliot.diebold.com [204.151.249.21]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id FAA21307 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 05:19:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by msexch01.diebold.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 08:18:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 08:18:25 -0500 From: "Plentovich, Dave" Subject: RE: A lot of questions... Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Anders Frederiksen'" Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Anders, I get the "1d" error when I am connected to the wrong comm port on BRUTUS. You should be using J23 for downloads and J22 for terminal (minicom). I had a lot of trouble building the correct toolchain/linux combination but I found a pre-built set of binaries which work with BRUTUS (angel 1.2). See ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ and look for the following files: arm-xtoolchain.tgz, brutus-test.tgz, and ramdisk-img.gz. Using these xdev tools we have built/ran arm-linux-2.2.14-rmk3 successfully. Best regards, David Plentovich Diebold, Incorporated ATM Development & Engineering, Dept. 9-53-3 5995 Mayfair Road, North Canton, OH 44720, USA voice 330.490.5092, fax 330.490.4508 plentod@diebold.com -----Original Message----- From: Anders Frederiksen [mailto:Nize@vkr.k-net.dk] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 5:23 AM To: 'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com' Subject: A lot of questions... Right on: Where can the SA1100-linux mailing list archives be found? I'm considering implementing an external DMA-controller for the SA1100. The question is whether the processor will be able to use the time off the bus efficiently. I guess, in most cases the SA1100 will encounter a cache miss and halt until the buscontrol is restored? Which would render the DMAC a complete waste of time (my time and CPU time ;) We've build the cross-compiler and the arm-linux kernel for Brutus as described by Intel. Never the less we have encountered some problems using the angelboot_old.tgz to download and run applications. We receive an error when running the "go" script. "Received 1d when expecting start packet.*" Is there a (up to date) version of the angel boot-loader which will make my day or an option we have missed? Thanx for your time! Regards, Anders Frederiksen From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 8 20:27:53 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA22705; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:27:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMSXADOHLQ9BVDB3@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:27:48 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA15170; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19492; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:24:12 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA11077; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA11090; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31307; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:23:11 -0800 Received: from blazieresearch.com ([216.85.232.66]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA13180 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpq800.blazieresearch.com (cpq800 [216.85.232.67]) by blazieresearch.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA31344 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:23:03 -0500 Received: by CPQ800 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:21:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:21:06 -0500 From: Mike Reynolds Subject: BLOB Flash downloader using Intel Strataflash Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: <412E1CF8088BD211AD5100805FAD9A800B5ABD@CPQ800> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hi all, Has any BLOB users modified the BLOB code to download to Intel Strataflash? Thanks. Mike From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 8 21:39:00 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA23015; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:38:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMSZRI6G6E99DMN4@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:38:51 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA28177; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:36:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20311; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:35:35 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA11086; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA11122; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:34:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09798; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:34:56 -0800 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA28385 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:34:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA18626; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 21:34:52 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 21:34:42 +0100 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: BLOB Flash downloader using Intel Strataflash In-reply-to: <412E1CF8088BD211AD5100805FAD9A800B5ABD@CPQ800> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Mike Reynolds Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk >Hi all, > >Has any BLOB users modified the BLOB code to download to Intel Strataflash? >Thanks. Not AFAIK. I don't believe it should be too hard; print the Fast BootBlock Flash datasheet and put it next to the StrataFlash docs, you'll see that the programming algorithms are 95% alike (with differences in block sizes and the like). Oh and as the LART (for which BLOB was developed) has a pretty funky address/data connection to the Flash, you may have to adapt data_{from|to}_flash. If your data connection is straight (ie D0->D0 ... D31->D31), those functions should be NOPs. JDB. -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 8 23:24:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA23396; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 23:24:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMT3FRGAMY9BVDBM@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 23:23:54 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA23136; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:21:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20837; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:20:35 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA11167; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA11151; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08325; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:20:08 -0800 Received: from msexch01.diebold.com (eliot.diebold.com [204.151.249.21]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA26542 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by msexch01.diebold.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:18:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:18:21 -0500 From: "Plentovich, Dave" Subject: SA1100 serial port parity Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk I am having trouble getting the parity to work on the BRUTUS serial port. I am using the tcsetattr() function to set for even parity but the BRUTUS board always inputs/outputs no parity. I am running arm-linux-2.2.14-rmk3-np15. I compared the serial driver code "serial-sa1100.c" with the standard driver "serial.c" and found that there is a difference in the change_speed() function. In change_speed() the variable cval gets setup with the new parity setting (plus other things) but never gets written to register UTCR0 (in serial.c the cval is written to the LCR register). Is there an existing patch to correct this problem? Is this the function that would be called by tcsetattr() to change the parity of the serial port? Thanks for your help. Best regards, David Plentovich Diebold, Incorporated ATM Development & Engineering, Dept. 9-53-3 5995 Mayfair Road, North Canton, OH 44720, USA voice 330.490.5092, fax 330.490.4508 plentod@diebold.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 9 15:02:15 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedv.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA28941; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:02:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMU07IL4HK99DOY9@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:01:48 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id FAA10498; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 05:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17139; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 05:56:34 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA11531; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 05:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA11520; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 05:54:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12020; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 05:54:46 -0800 Received: from msexch01.diebold.com (eliot.diebold.com [204.151.249.21]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id FAA25363 for ; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 05:54:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by msexch01.diebold.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 08:53:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 08:52:56 -0500 From: "Plentovich, Dave" Subject: FW: SA1100 serial port parity Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk I added a line in serial_sa1100.c to program cval into the UTCR0 register and the even parity setup now seems to operate correctly. Diff report shown below. --- serial_sa1100.c Thu Mar 9 09:13:48 2000 +++ serial_sa1100.old.c Wed Mar 8 12:39:39 2000 @@ -951,9 +951,6 @@ IER_copy = serial_inp(info, UTCR3) ; serial_outp(info, UTCR3, 0) ; - /* set the parity, stop bits, data size */ - serial_outp(info, UTCR0, cval); - /* set the baud rate */ quot -= 1; /* divisor = divisor - 1 */ serial_outp(info, UTCR1, (quot >> 8)&0xf); /* MS of divisor */ Best regards, David Plentovich -----Original Message----- From: Plentovich, Dave [mailto:PlentoD@diebold.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 5:18 PM To: 'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com' Subject: SA1100 serial port parity I am having trouble getting the parity to work on the BRUTUS serial port. I am using the tcsetattr() function to set for even parity but the BRUTUS board always inputs/outputs no parity. I am running arm-linux-2.2.14-rmk3-np15. I compared the serial driver code "serial-sa1100.c" with the standard driver "serial.c" and found that there is a difference in the change_speed() function. In change_speed() the variable cval gets setup with the new parity setting (plus other things) but never gets written to register UTCR0 (in serial.c the cval is written to the LCR register). Is there an existing patch to correct this problem? Is this the function that would be called by tcsetattr() to change the parity of the serial port? Thanks for your help. Best regards, David Plentovich Diebold, Incorporated ATM Development & Engineering, Dept. 9-53-3 5995 Mayfair Road, North Canton, OH 44720, USA voice 330.490.5092, fax 330.490.4508 plentod@diebold.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 9 15:39:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA29303; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:39:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMU1HM22T699DOR7@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:38:58 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA11737; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 06:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13834; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 06:34:12 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA11534; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 06:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA11530; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 06:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06387; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 06:33:36 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA09770 for ; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 06:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA29198; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 15:32:14 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 15:32:14 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: FW: SA1100 serial port parity In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: PlentoD@diebold.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200003091432.PAA29198@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Thu, 09 Mar 2000 08:52:56 -0500, Plentovich, Dave wrote: > I added a line in serial_sa1100.c to program cval into the UTCR0 register and > the even parity setup now seems to operate correctly. Diff report shown below. > > --- serial_sa1100.c Thu Mar 9 09:13:48 2000 > +++ serial_sa1100.old.c Wed Mar 8 12:39:39 2000 > @@ -951,9 +951,6 @@ > IER_copy = serial_inp(info, UTCR3) ; > serial_outp(info, UTCR3, 0) ; > > - /* set the parity, stop bits, data size */ > - serial_outp(info, UTCR0, cval); > - > /* set the baud rate */ > quot -= 1; /* divisor = divisor - 1 */ > serial_outp(info, UTCR1, (quot >> 8)&0xf); /* MS of divisor */ This looks reasonable to me. If I find some time this week, I'll try if this also fixes the login problems we see on the LART. Minor detail: you diff'ed it the other way around. You should have used "diff -u serial_sa1100.old.c serial_sa1100.c". People who want to apply this patch should use "patch -Rp0" to apply it in reverse. Erik -- Computers run on faith, not electrons. -- T.N. Thompson From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 9 17:25:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA00246; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:25:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMU57NBXM29BVDDX@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:25:25 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA19013; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 08:22:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26022; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 08:21:54 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA11579; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 08:21:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA11564; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 08:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09048; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 08:21:16 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA03290 for ; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 08:21:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 11:07:37 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: FW: SA1100 serial port parity In-reply-to: <200003091432.PAA29198@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > This looks reasonable to me. If I find some time this week, I'll try if > this also fixes the login problems we see on the LART. What kind of problem? Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 9 19:36:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA00940; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:36:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMU9SIAT8699DPJK@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:36:48 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA18792; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:33:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27099; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:32:50 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA11677; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA11689; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from stowe.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04202; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:32:10 -0800 Received: by stowe.pa.dec.com; (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AA21479; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:32:09 -0800 Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:32:09 -0800 From: Deborah Wallach Subject: Re: flash filesystem In-reply-to: <20000309083554.13104.qmail@sina.com> (message from daihbxd on Thu Mar 9 16:35:54 CST 2000) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: daihbxd@sina.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200003091832.AA21479@stowe.pa.dec.com> Precedence: bulk Address: Compaq Computer Corporation; Western Research Laboratory; 250 University Avenue; Palo Alto, CA 94301; USA Phone: 650-617-3315 From: daihbxd Date: Thu Mar 9 16:35:54 CST 2000 I'd like to add a flash filesystem to linux kernel so I can store files on flash memory.what do i need to do? There is a flash filesystem included in the Itsy Linux release. You can port the driver from our version of the kernel (2.0.30) to whichever version you are using. The URL you should look at is: http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/download.html (click on "Download the Itsy Linux Port", near the bottom of the page). -Deborah Wallach From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 9 19:47:40 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA00998; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:47:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMUA6XCJL299DPJK@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:47:37 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA02484; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:44:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26144; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:44:23 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA11716; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:44:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA11559; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:44:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06970; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:44:10 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA11866 for ; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:44:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA00966; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 19:42:49 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 19:42:49 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw Subject: Re: FW: SA1100 serial port parity In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200003091842.TAA00966@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl On Thu, 09 Mar 2000 11:07:37 -0500 (EST), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: >> This looks reasonable to me. If I find some time this week, I'll try if >> this also fixes the login problems we see on the LART. > > What kind of problem? If you type the login name ("root" in our case) too fast, the getty just doesn't respond. Once you're logged in everything is fine again. It can also be a problem with the getty, but I haven't time to sort it out now (organizing a workshop costs a lot of time). Erik -- A towel has immense psychological value. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 9 18:21:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA00605; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:21:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMU76L0VM699DPHL@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:21:50 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA07063; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 09:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08568; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 09:17:22 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA11588; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 09:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA11616; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 09:16:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04077; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 09:16:42 -0800 Received: from sina.com ([202.106.187.163]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA16223 for ; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 09:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13105 invoked by uid 99); Thu, 09 Mar 2000 08:35:54 +0000 Date: Thu Mar 9 16:35:54 CST 2000 From: daihbxd Subject: flash filesystem Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000309083554.13104.qmail@sina.com> X-Mailer: SinaMail 3.0Beta (FireToad) Precedence: bulk hi all I'd like to add a flash filesystem to linux kernel so I can store files on flash memory.what do i need to do? regareds ______________________________________ =================================================================== PB@KCb7Q5gWSSJOd http://mail.sina.com.cn From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 10 00:28:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA02433; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:28:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMUK0IB7AA99DPZD@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:28:49 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA13405; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 15:24:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26686; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 15:23:39 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA11865; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 15:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA11842; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 15:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32493; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 15:19:44 -0800 Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (ns0.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA29322 for ; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 15:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from apache.utdallas.edu (apache.utdallas.edu [129.110.16.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDE21A0116; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 17:16:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (vasantr@localhost) by apache.utdallas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA10927; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 17:16:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 17:16:19 -0600 (CST) From: Vasant Ramasubramanian Subject: IDE & CF PCB Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: apache.utdallas.edu: vasantr owned process doing -bs Hello all. I am considering making relatively simple PCBs to allow one to use an IDE hard drive over the PCMCIA interface (this would requre an external power supply for the HDD) and a CompactFlash to PCMCIA adaptor (the CF card would be used in "TrueIDE" mode). I'm also considering an IDE to PCMCIA interface which would physically contain laptop size 2.5" HDD. I've successfully been able to get an ARM Linux kernel ID an IDE hard drive on my Brutus board with one adaptor I made, however it is not near reliable, hence the desire to make a PCB. To cut the cost of th boards, I'd like to offer them to anyone else here who wants one (@cost). Please let me know if you are interested. I have not yet finished making the design or finished getting quotes. These adaptors are passive and I have the pinouts available. If someone else has access to PCB making facilities, please let me know. The layout would be something like a PCMCIA surface mount connector, an IDE surface mount connector and traces ~12mils wide with 12mils spacing. Thanks, Vasant. From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Mar 11 12:42:36 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id MAA11554; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:42:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMWNWKWLKU99DSWS@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:42:32 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id DAA18676; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 03:39:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26636; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 03:38:32 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA12412; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 03:35:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA12378; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 03:35:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26766; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 03:35:23 -0800 Received: from apple.ncku.edu.tw (apple.tnrc.edu.tw [163.28.113.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id DAA26992 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 03:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparc1.cc.ncku.edu.tw (sparc1.cc.ncku.edu.tw [140.116.5.1]) by apple.ncku.edu.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08150 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:30:47 +0800 (CST) Received: from green (green.mmn.es.ncku.edu.tw [140.116.39.76]) by sparc1.cc.ncku.edu.tw (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA14815 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:30:59 +0800 (CST) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:34:20 +0800 From: green Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <001e01bf8b4d$beda8d80$4c27748c@mmn.es.ncku.edu.tw> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01BF8B90.CC55F4C0" Precedence: bulk X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BF8B90.CC55F4C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BF8B90.CC55F4C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BF8B90.CC55F4C0-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Mar 12 03:53:21 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id DAA14352; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 03:53:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JMXJPSJXRM9GV5NM@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 03:53:17 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id SAA03037; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:48:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26417; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:47:36 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA12644; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA12679; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00021; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:46:06 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id SAA25565 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:46:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA28699 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 21:51:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 21:51:29 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.2.14-rmk5-np16.gz Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs ... is available right now from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. This contains: - serial fix for parity setting (Dave Plentovich) - wait-for-irq lockup workaround (David Chaiken) - ThinClient support - various changes to fit with 2.2.14-rmk5 - assorted fixes I've been running this version compiled with gcc-2.95.2 on my ThinClient with Titan VI over NFS ... and everything seem OK ! :-) It means that, for the first time, I have a 2.2.x kernel that behave correctly when compiled with gcc-2.95.2... or at least behave as well as if compiled with egcs-1.1.2. So I guess it might be OK for others too. Didn't test it on Brutus yet though. Also a 2.3.49 diff should be coming shortly. Have fun! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Mar 14 00:59:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA25183; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:59:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JN069ELKK09GV5QK@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:59:49 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA13326; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11739; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:55:42 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA13441; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:53:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA13428; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12996; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:53:04 -0800 Received: from ADSServer.flatpanels.com (flatpanels.com [207.196.69.66] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA15232 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:53:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by flatpanels.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:49:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:49:31 -0500 From: "Saxena, Nikita" Subject: SVGALib... Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <91B07CA588CED3118CFE00105AC97594D10D@flatpanels.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Hi, Does anyone know of a SVGALib that has been built for SA1100 running Linux. I get a slew of errors when I try to cross compile it for the Arm processor? Thanks, Nikita From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Mar 14 19:20:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA01231; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:20:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JN18OBP38A9FMD90@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:20:00 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA21801; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:16:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12786; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:15:38 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA13745; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:14:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA13753; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15303; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:14:21 -0800 Received: from msexch01.diebold.com (eliot.diebold.com [204.151.249.21]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA24940 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:14:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by msexch01.diebold.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:12:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:11:54 -0500 From: "Plentovich, Dave" Subject: RE: diff-2.2.14-rmk5-np16.gz Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Nicolas Pitre'" Cc: "Sa1100-Linux Group (E-mail)" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk I attempted to build arm-linux-2.2.14-rmk5-np16 for the BRUTUS board but the build failed. File linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/head-sa1100.S failed becasue of a redefinition of GPIO_BASE. It looks like a section of code for CONFIG_SA1100_BRUTUS was duplicatd and this was causing the redefinition. I removed that section of code and everything built correctly and downloaded/ran correctly on BRUTUS. Below is the diff for head-sa1100.S (hope I used the correct order this time.) --- head-sa1100.S.old Tue Mar 14 08:42:04 2000 +++ head-sa1100.S Tue Mar 14 08:42:32 2000 @@ -122,65 +122,6 @@ str r1, [r0, #UTSR0] #endif -#ifdef CONFIG_SA1100_BRUTUS - @ Initialize UART1 for early serial communication - @ since UART3 is used by angelboot. It is routed to - @ alternate GPIO functions on Brutus. - b 1f - -GPIO_BASE: .long 0x90040000 -#define GPDR 0x04 -#define GAFR 0x1c - -PPC_BASE: .long 0x90060000 -#define PPAR 0x08 - -UART1_BASE: .long 0x80010000 -#define UTCR0 0x00 -#define UTCR1 0x04 -#define UTCR2 0x08 -#define UTCR3 0x0c -#define UTSR0 0x1c -#define UTSR1 0x20 - -#define BAUD_DIV_230400 0x000 -#define BAUD_DIV_115200 0x001 -#define BAUD_DIV_57600 0x003 -#define BAUD_DIV_38400 0x005 -#define BAUD_DIV_19200 0x00b -#define BAUD_DIV_9600 0x017 -#define BAUD_DIV BAUD_DIV_9600 - -1: ldr r0, GPIO_BASE - ldr r1, [r0, #GPDR] - bic r1, r1, #1<<15 - orr r1, r1, #1<<14 - str r1, [r0, #GPDR] - ldr r1, [r0, #GAFR] - orr r1, r1, #(1<<15)|(1<<14) - str r1, [r0, #GAFR] - ldr r0, PPC_BASE - ldr r1, [r0, #PPAR] - orr r1, r1, #1<<12 - str r1, [r0, #PPAR] - ldr r0, UART1_BASE -1: ldr r1, [r0, #UTSR1] - tst r1, #1<<0 @ TBY - bne 1b - mov r1, #0 - str r1, [r0, #UTCR3] - mov r1, #0x08 @ 8N1 - str r1, [r0, #UTCR0] - mov r1, #BAUD_DIV - str r1, [r0, #UTCR2] - mov r1, r1, lsr #8 - str r1, [r0, #UTCR1] - mov r1, #0x03 @ RXE + TXE - str r1, [r0, #UTCR3] - mov r1, #0xff @ flush status reg - str r1, [r0, #UTSR0] -#endif - @ set registers for entry mov r0, #0 mov r1, #16 Best regards, David Plentovich Diebold, Incorporated ATM Development & Engineering, Dept. 9-53-3 5995 Mayfair Road, North Canton, OH 44720, USA voice 330.490.5092, fax 330.490.4508 plentod@diebold.com -----Original Message----- From: Nicolas Pitre [mailto:nico@CAM.ORG] Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 9:51 PM To: SA-1100/Linux Subject: diff-2.2.14-rmk5-np16.gz ... is available right now from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. This contains: - serial fix for parity setting (Dave Plentovich) - wait-for-irq lockup workaround (David Chaiken) - ThinClient support - various changes to fit with 2.2.14-rmk5 - assorted fixes I've been running this version compiled with gcc-2.95.2 on my ThinClient with Titan VI over NFS ... and everything seem OK ! :-) It means that, for the first time, I have a 2.2.x kernel that behave correctly when compiled with gcc-2.95.2... or at least behave as well as if compiled with egcs-1.1.2. So I guess it might be OK for others too. Didn't test it on Brutus yet though. Also a 2.3.49 diff should be coming shortly. Have fun! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Mar 14 23:29:47 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA02124; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:29:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JN1HDYKBO69GV5S0@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:29:39 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA32442; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:26:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15944; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:26:18 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA13860; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA13841; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:25:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31467; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:25:30 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA06485 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:25:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02820; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:30:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:30:58 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: RE: diff-2.2.14-rmk5-np16.gz In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: "Plentovich, Dave" Cc: "Sa1100-Linux Group (E-mail)" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Plentovich, Dave wrote: > I attempted to build arm-linux-2.2.14-rmk5-np16 for the BRUTUS board > but the build failed. Oops... Thanks. Patch sometimes produces strange results on an already patched file. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 17 03:26:48 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id DAA17578; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 03:26:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JN4I9KA0XK9FMJDD@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 03:26:46 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id SAA20060; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:23:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24504; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:22:52 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA14774; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA14788; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:20:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02577; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:20:32 -0800 Received: from hydra.wireless-sys.com (dryline-fw.wireless-sys.com [216.126.67.45]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id SAA20088 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from gordon.wireless-sys.com (gordon.wireless-sys.com [192.168.11.138]) by hydra.wireless-sys.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA00827 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:20:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:20:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Scott K. Lindsay P.Eng." Subject: Device address weirdness Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Dear all, I'm working on a device driver for SA1100 linux and running into a problem. I'm using 2.3.35 (with rmk & np patches) and gcc-2.95.2 toolchain. The driver currently uses a 10ms kernel timer to simulate an interrupt (the hardware's not fully baked yet). If I do the access to the device within the function triggered by the kernel timer, all is well. If I use the timer function to add the function to tq_immediate and mark it active, things are not so well. The device access function causes the kernel to freeze (no message, apparently no external bus activity). In an attempt to find out what the CPU is doing (if anything), I used the nowb and nocache command line parameters. If I do that the problem goes away. I've read as much of the sa1100-linux mailing list history as I have (thanks Nico) and this seems to indicate a cache coherence problem. The bit I don't understand is that I'm not doing any DMA --- the CPU freezes on a single write to a 16 bit device in the PCMCIA memory space. Does anyone have a suggestion? Is 2.3.35 a reasonable thing to be using? It seems stable enough (without the device driver). My apologies if this has already been discussed to death. skl -- Scott K. Lindsay, P.Eng. Wireless System Technologies Scott.Lindsay@wireless-sys.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 17 05:18:50 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA17901; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 05:18:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JN4M6GJ2V49FMJDD@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 05:18:48 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA26471; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:16:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18893; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:15:24 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA14784; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:14:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA14816; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32135; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:14:35 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id UAA02002 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24160; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 23:19:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 23:19:51 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Device address weirdness In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: "Scott K. Lindsay P.Eng." Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Scott K. Lindsay P.Eng. wrote: > Dear all, > > I'm working on a device driver for SA1100 linux and running > into a problem. I'm using 2.3.35 (with rmk & np patches) and > gcc-2.95.2 toolchain. The driver currently uses a 10ms kernel > timer to simulate an interrupt (the hardware's not fully baked > yet). You could use OSMR1 to generate interrupts, since this interrupt could be assigned and registered by your driver. This would make your setup more like if it was a real life interrupt with variable intervals and won't be synchronized on the OS timer. > If I do the access to the device within the function triggered > by the kernel timer, all is well. If I use the timer function > to add the function to tq_immediate and mark it active, things are > not so well. The device access function causes the kernel to freeze > (no message, apparently no external bus activity). In an attempt > to find out what the CPU is doing (if anything), I used the nowb > and nocache command line parameters. If I do that the problem goes > away. I would rather suspect a timing issue than cache coherency, especially when PCMCIA mem space isn't cacheable. Beware 16-bit access on 8-bit devices -- I think there is an erata about that for the SA1100. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 17 15:42:51 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA21246; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:42:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JN57Y4H3GG9FMK3G@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:42:48 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA07828; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07796; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:39:29 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA15018; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:39:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA14913; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:39:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22918; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:39:14 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA05242 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:39:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 04:37:36 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Bringing up 2.2.14 kernel on SA1110 (Intel Zilker board) In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Jeff Sutherland Cc: "SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Jeff Sutherland wrote: > The kernel source tree with arm patches doesn't include a config for the > SA1110, although it has SA1100. Has anyone successfully created a > configuration for the SA1110 chip? It doesn't look difficult, just tedious. I'm waiting for my SA1110 board to do so, but if anyone is ahead of me I welcome patches! :-) > Plus, a new processor ID has to be added and apparently a new > include/asm-arm/arch-sa1110 directory as well. Please advise... Yep for the proc ID, but there is no need for a arch-sa1110 directory. SA1100 and SA1110 __architectures__ are the same, or similar enough to be considered the same. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 17 20:08:42 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA22582; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:08:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JN5H8QJHQU9FMKSI@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:08:40 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA08822; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:05:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26528; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:05:18 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA15136; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA15151; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05209; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:05:11 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA26622 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:05:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:56:43 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: RE: Bringing up 2.2.14 kernel on SA1110 (Intel Zilker board) In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "Latham, Steve" Cc: "'Jeff Sutherland'" , "'SA1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Latham, Steve wrote: > Takafumi Kawana at Kasara Research has done the port but can't release for > competition reasons. Hmmm... As long as they keep it for themselves only and have no plan of distributing any product or binary without source code. Otherwise it's a GPL violation. Anyway the amount of work involved is very little. Really. So there is not much of a competitive advantage there. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 17 15:29:29 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA21154; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:29:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JN57HGPE7E9GV64D@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:29:19 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA08487; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:21:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17954; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:20:40 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA15015; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:19:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA15014; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:19:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08782; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:19:40 -0800 Received: from ice.ar51.net (IDENT:root@ice.ar51.net [208.225.80.11]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA18728 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:19:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from server01.asi (akron-80-169.ar51.net [208.225.80.169]) by ice.ar51.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA08532 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:19:48 -0500 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:19:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:19:27 -0500 From: Jeff Sutherland Subject: Bringing up 2.2.14 kernel on SA1110 (Intel Zilker board) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk The kernel source tree with arm patches doesn't include a config for the SA1110, although it has SA1100. Has anyone successfully created a configuration for the SA1110 chip? It doesn't look difficult, just tedious. Plus, a new processor ID has to be added and apparently a new include/asm-arm/arch-sa1110 directory as well. Please advise... Regards, //Jeff From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 17 16:36:38 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA21636; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:36:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JN59TVZP0W9GV64F@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:36:35 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA23553; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:27:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06178; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:27:14 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA15067; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:27:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA15063; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02600; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:26:59 -0800 Received: from fwsrv2.itt.com (fwsrv2.itt.com [151.190.254.230]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA12093 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by fwsrv2.itt.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA29586; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:25:43 -0500 Received: by fwemail2.de.ittind.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:25:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:25:41 -0500 From: "Latham, Steve" Subject: RE: Bringing up 2.2.14 kernel on SA1110 (Intel Zilker board) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'SA1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk I'm working on it but at the moment its crashing when the MMU is turned on. I'm using 0x6901b110 that Takafumi Kawana gave me. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Nicolas Pitre [mailto:nico@CAM.ORG] Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 4:38 AM To: Jeff Sutherland Cc: SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail) Subject: Re: Bringing up 2.2.14 kernel on SA1110 (Intel Zilker board) On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Jeff Sutherland wrote: > The kernel source tree with arm patches doesn't include a config for the > SA1110, although it has SA1100. Has anyone successfully created a > configuration for the SA1110 chip? It doesn't look difficult, just tedious. I'm waiting for my SA1110 board to do so, but if anyone is ahead of me I welcome patches! :-) > Plus, a new processor ID has to be added and apparently a new > include/asm-arm/arch-sa1110 directory as well. Please advise... Yep for the proc ID, but there is no need for a arch-sa1110 directory. SA1100 and SA1110 __architectures__ are the same, or similar enough to be considered the same. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 17 16:49:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA21707; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:49:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JN5AAPKXQS9GV64F@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:49:24 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA13397; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:46:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26654; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:46:04 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA15080; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:45:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA15047; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:45:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30853; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:45:55 -0800 Received: from ice.ar51.net (IDENT:root@ice.ar51.net [208.225.80.11]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA31007 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from server01.asi (akron-80-169.ar51.net [208.225.80.169]) by ice.ar51.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA13338; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:45:41 -0500 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:45:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:45:20 -0500 From: Jeff Sutherland Subject: RE: Bringing up 2.2.14 kernel on SA1110 (Intel Zilker board) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Latham, Steve'" Cc: "SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk I'm working on it but at the moment its crashing when the MMU is turned on. I'm using 0x6901b110 that Takafumi Kawana gave me. Steve My processor returns 0x6901b114 (B0 stepping). I suspect there may be some subtle differences between the MMU on this part and on SA1100, but I haven't gotten that far with the kernel. Maybe I should write some debug code to test it out before attempting to bring up a kernel... //Jeff From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 17 18:04:06 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA22096; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:04:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA00574 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:04:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRK0070KSQQET@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:04:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA02601; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:58:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32424; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:57:45 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA15093; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:57:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA15082; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:57:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18189; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:57:08 -0800 Received: from fwsrv2.itt.com (fwsrv2.itt.com [151.190.254.230]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA03348 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:57:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by fwsrv2.itt.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA23047; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:55:51 -0500 Received: by fwemail2.de.ittind.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:55:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:55:44 -0500 From: "Latham, Steve" Subject: RE: Bringing up 2.2.14 kernel on SA1110 (Intel Zilker board) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Jeff Sutherland'" Cc: "'SA1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Takafumi Kawana at Kasara Research has done the port but can't release for competition reasons. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Sutherland [mailto:jsutherland@accelent.com] Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 10:45 AM To: 'Latham, Steve' Cc: SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail) Subject: RE: Bringing up 2.2.14 kernel on SA1110 (Intel Zilker board) I'm working on it but at the moment its crashing when the MMU is turned on. I'm using 0x6901b110 that Takafumi Kawana gave me. Steve My processor returns 0x6901b114 (B0 stepping). I suspect there may be some subtle differences between the MMU on this part and on SA1100, but I haven't gotten that far with the kernel. Maybe I should write some debug code to test it out before attempting to bring up a kernel... //Jeff From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 17 20:08:41 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA22578; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:08:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JN5H8R679M9FMKSI@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:08:37 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA11635; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:05:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19367; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:04:47 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA15127; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA15130; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:04:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26226; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:04:06 -0800 Received: from fwsrv2.itt.com (fwsrv2.itt.com [151.190.254.230]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA10138 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:04:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by fwsrv2.itt.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA01373; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:02:40 -0500 Received: by fwemail2.de.ittind.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:02:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:02:35 -0500 From: "Latham, Steve" Subject: RE: Bringing up 2.2.14 kernel on SA1110 (Intel Zilker board) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Nicolas Pitre'" Cc: "'SA1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk No, I meant their hardware -----Original Message----- From: Nicolas Pitre [mailto:nico@cam.org] Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 8:57 AM To: Latham, Steve Cc: 'Jeff Sutherland'; 'SA1100-linux@pa.dec.com' Subject: RE: Bringing up 2.2.14 kernel on SA1110 (Intel Zilker board) On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Latham, Steve wrote: > Takafumi Kawana at Kasara Research has done the port but can't release for > competition reasons. Hmmm... As long as they keep it for themselves only and have no plan of distributing any product or binary without source code. Otherwise it's a GPL violation. Anyway the amount of work involved is very little. Really. So there is not much of a competitive advantage there. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Mar 20 04:43:23 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA01682; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:43:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JN8RSK0OXY9GV65X@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:43:22 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA29820; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:39:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01423; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:38:45 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA16039; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:34:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA16021; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30184; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:34:08 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id TAA03771 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:33:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA15935 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:39:30 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:39:30 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.3.99-pre1-rmk1-np1.gz Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs (hmmm, with all sufixes it gets long...) It's available from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. This includes all the fixes the last 2.2.14 patch has, plus many other things I forget. Have fun! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Mar 20 19:30:06 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA06901; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:30:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JN9MRWZQV69FMQ2H@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:30:03 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA04565; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:26:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31986; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:25:51 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA16263; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA16250; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:23:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22627; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:23:26 -0800 Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA01121 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from brightstareng.com (h0060082e53bb.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.220.79]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA01367; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:20:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:19:44 -0500 From: Stuart Adams Subject: Re: Bringing up 2.2.14 kernel on SA1110 (Intel Zilker board) Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Jeff Sutherland Cc: "SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)" Message-id: <38D66BC0.CBD484EB@brightstareng.com> Organization: Bright Star Engineering Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-MOENE (WinNT; U) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------60CBCEE892B1E6D13A9C2EE0" Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------60CBCEE892B1E6D13A9C2EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Has anyone successfully created a > configuration for the SA1110 chip? Well attached is a quick patchset of a base build tree for one of our SA1110 boards against the original 2.3.25-rmk1-np6 sources. (At one point I think we did have 2.2.X working too). (I would just use this as a reference, we were in a hurry and just patched over top of the SA1110/Brutus config. (Serial console is on part 1 at 57,600 baud)) -- Stuart ----------------------------------- Stuart Adams Bright Star Engineering Inc. 19 Enfield Drive Andover MA 01810 USA Tel: +1-978-470-8738 Fax: +1-978-470-8878 Email: sja@brightstareng.com Web: http://www.brightstareng.com/ --------------60CBCEE892B1E6D13A9C2EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="diffs" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="diffs" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit diff -ur linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/head-sa1100.S linux_new/arch/arm/boot/compressed/head-sa1100.S --- linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/head-sa1100.S Fri Mar 17 16:05:16 2000 +++ linux_new/arch/arm/boot/compressed/head-sa1100.S Fri Mar 17 13:25:52 2000 @@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ #error What am I doing here... #endif -#ifdef CONFIG_SA1100_BRUTUS +#ifdef CONFIG_SA1100_BRUTUSZ @ need to enter SVC mode #define angel_SWIreason_EnterSVC 0x17 /* from arm.h, in angel source */ #define angel_SWI_ARM (0xEF123456 & 0xffffff) @@ -60,7 +60,7 @@ orr r0, r0, #0x1000 @ set Icache mcr p15, 0, r0, c1, c0, 0 -#ifdef CONFIG_SA1100_BRUTUS +#ifdef CONFIG_SA1100_BRUTUSZ @ Initialize UART1 for early serial communication @ since UART3 is used by angelboot. It is routed to @ alternate GPIO functions on Brutus. diff -ur linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.S linux_new/arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.S --- linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.S Fri Mar 17 16:05:08 2000 +++ linux_new/arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.S Fri Mar 17 13:25:52 2000 @@ -144,9 +150,15 @@ mov r0, r4 bl memdump #endif - eor r0, r6, #0x44 << 24 @ SA-110 or SA-1100? + @eor r0, r6, #0x44 << 24 @ SA-110 or SA-1100? + @eor r0, r0, #0x01 << 16 + @eor r0, r0, #0xa1 << 8 + @movs r0, r0, lsr #5 + @mcreq p15, 0, r0, c7, c7, 0 @ flush I cache + @mcreq p15, 0, r1, c7, c10, 4 @ drain WB + eor r0, r6, #0x69 << 24 @ SA-110 or SA-1100? eor r0, r0, #0x01 << 16 - eor r0, r0, #0xa1 << 8 + eor r0, r0, #0xb1 << 8 movs r0, r0, lsr #5 mcreq p15, 0, r0, c7, c7, 0 @ flush I cache mcreq p15, 0, r1, c7, c10, 4 @ drain WB diff -ur linux/arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.S linux_new/arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.S --- linux/arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.S Fri Mar 17 16:05:08 2000 +++ linux_new/arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.S Fri Mar 17 13:25:52 2000 @@ -24,7 +24,10 @@ .section ".text.init",#alloc,#execinstr ENTRY(stext) ENTRY(_stext) + mov r0, #0 + mov r1, #0x10 + #ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_NETWINDER /* * Compatability cruft for old NetWinder NeTTroms. This diff -ur linux/arch/arm/kernel/setup.c linux_new/arch/arm/kernel/setup.c --- linux/arch/arm/kernel/setup.c Fri Mar 17 16:05:16 2000 +++ linux_new/arch/arm/kernel/setup.c Fri Mar 17 15:37:37 2000 @@ -708,7 +708,7 @@ } meminfo.nr_banks = i; -#if defined(CONFIG_SA1100_BRUTUS) +#if defined(CONFIG_SA1100_BRUTUSZZ) ROOT_DEV = MKDEV(RAMDISK_MAJOR,0); setup_ramdisk( 1, 0, 0, 8192 ); setup_initrd( __phys_to_virt(0xd8000000), 3*1024*1024 ); diff -ur linux/arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c linux_new/arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c --- linux/arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c Fri Mar 17 16:05:16 2000 +++ linux_new/arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c Fri Mar 17 13:25:52 2000 @@ -34,10 +34,7 @@ unsigned long length; } mem_desc[] __initdata = { #if defined(CONFIG_SA1100_BRUTUS) - { 0xc0000000, 0x00400000 }, /* 4MB */ - { 0xc8000000, 0x00400000 }, /* 4MB */ - { 0xd0000000, 0x00400000 }, /* 4MB */ - { 0xd8000000, 0x00400000 } /* 4MB */ + { 0xc0000000, 0x01000000 }, /* 16MB */ #elif defined(CONFIG_SA1100_EMPEG) { 0xc0000000, 0x00400000 }, /* 4MB */ { 0xc8000000, 0x00400000 } /* 4MB */ diff -ur linux/arch/arm/mm/proc-sa110.S linux_new/arch/arm/mm/proc-sa110.S --- linux/arch/arm/mm/proc-sa110.S Fri Mar 17 16:05:08 2000 +++ linux_new/arch/arm/mm/proc-sa110.S Fri Mar 17 13:25:52 2000 @@ -578,5 +578,16 @@ .long cpu_sa1100_info .long sa1100_processor_functions .size __sa1100_proc_info, . - __sa1100_proc_info +__sa1110_proc_info: + .long 0x0001b110 + .long 0x00fffff0 + .long 0x00000c02 + b __sa110_setup + .long cpu_arch_name + .long cpu_elf_name + .long HWCAP_SWP | HWCAP_HALF | HWCAP_26BIT + .long cpu_sa1100_info + .long sa1100_processor_functions + .size __sa1100_proc_info, . - __sa1100_proc_info diff -ur linux/arch/arm/special/Makefile linux_new/arch/arm/special/Makefile --- linux/arch/arm/special/Makefile Fri Mar 17 16:05:16 2000 +++ linux_new/arch/arm/special/Makefile Fri Mar 17 13:25:52 2000 @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ KEYB_ebsa110 := KEYB_footbridge := defkeymap.o pc_keyb.o -ifeq ($(CONFIG_SA1100_BRUTUS),y) +ifeq ($(CONFIG_SA1100_BRUTUSXX),y) KEYB_sa1100 := brutus_keyb.o defkeymap-acorn.o endif ifeq ($(CONFIG_SA1100_TIFON),y) diff -ur linux/drivers/char/serial_sa1100.c linux_new/drivers/char/serial_sa1100.c --- linux/drivers/char/serial_sa1100.c Fri Mar 17 16:05:18 2000 +++ linux_new/drivers/char/serial_sa1100.c Fri Mar 17 13:25:52 2000 @@ -2326,7 +2326,7 @@ break; case (int)&Ser1UTCR0: /* uart serial port 1 on sa1100 */ -#if defined( CONFIG_SA1100_BRUTUS ) || defined( CONFIG_SA1100_TIFON ) || \ +#if defined( CONFIG_SA1100_BRUTUSZ ) || defined( CONFIG_SA1100_TIFON ) || \ defined( CONFIG_SA1100_LART ) /* set up for using alternate UART */ GAFR |= (GPIO_GPIO14 | GPIO_GPIO15); @@ -2418,8 +2418,8 @@ /* Life in the fast lane */ B115200 #else - /* A little pedestrian... */ - B9600 + /* A little pedestrian... sja was 9600*/ + B57600 #endif | CS8 | CREAD | HUPCL | CLOCAL; serial_driver.flags = TTY_DRIVER_REAL_RAW; @@ -2652,16 +2652,18 @@ serial_echo_port[UTCR3] = UTCR3_TXE; /* Turn on transmitter */ #elif defined( CONFIG_SA1100_BRUTUS ) serial_echo_port = (unsigned long *)&Ser1UTCR0; +#if 0 /* set up for using alternate UART */ GAFR |= (GPIO_GPIO14 | GPIO_GPIO15); GPDR |= GPIO_GPIO14; GPDR &= ~GPIO_GPIO15; PPAR |= PPAR_UPR; +#endif serial_echo_port[UTCR3] = 0; /* Disable all interrupts for now */ serial_echo_port[UTCR0] = 0x08; /* No parity, 8 bits, 1 stop */ serial_echo_port[UTCR1] = 0; /* 9600 baud */ - serial_echo_port[UTCR2] = 0x17; + serial_echo_port[UTCR2] = 0x3; /* sja was 0x17 */ serial_echo_port[UTCR3] = UTCR3_TXE; /* Turn on transmitter */ #elif defined( CONFIG_SA1100_VICTOR ) serial_echo_port= (unsigned long *)&Ser3UTCR0; --------------60CBCEE892B1E6D13A9C2EE0-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Mar 20 21:04:09 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA07390; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:04:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JN9Q2KHR429GV6EJ@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:04:07 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA31779; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:01:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13812; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:00:31 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA16278; 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Bakker" Subject: Announce: LART hardware distribution released. Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: pleb@cse.unsw.edu.au, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk Hi all, We've released all the CAD files required for building the LART under an Open Hardware-ish license. All files can be found at http://www.lart.tudelft.nl . The LART is a small yet powerful embedded computer capable of running Linux, built around an Intel SA-1100 StrongARM processor. Its performance is around 250 MIPS while consuming less than 1 Watt of power. In a standard configuration it holds 32MB DRAM and 4MB Flash ROM, which is sufficient for a Linux kernel and a sizeable ramdisk image. No computer is an island. We have designed I/O boards for LART, offering audio I/O, IDE (can you say MP3man ?), Ethernet, PS2, IrDA, USB, video out, telco and touchscreen interface. More boards are in various stages of development, including video in, GPS and inertial navigation. We intend to release all these PCB designs under the same open license. On this site you can also get BLOB, our BootLoader Object; and a recipe for building a Linux kernel and a crosscompiler toolchain. There's also a majordomo list discussing the ins and outs of SA-based embedded computing in general and LARTish stuff in specific; the address is lart@lart.tudelft.nl, see http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/list/ how to get there from here. Note: we don't sell the stuff, we just try to give back to the community. You could see us as a fabless PCB design group ;-) If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask. Sincerely, Jan-Derk Bakker. -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. Free hardware design files. http://www.lart.tudelft.nl From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Mar 21 08:55:25 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id IAA10130; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:55:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JNAEWFXNGE9GV6F5@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:55:23 +0100 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id XAA22453; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:51:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24126; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:51:21 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA16561; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA16526; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30447; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:49:17 -0800 Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id XAA12173 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:49:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id QAA14696 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:49:10 +0900 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:48:58 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii Subject: Re: Bringing up 2.2.14 kernel on SA1110 (Intel Zilker board) In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100 mailng list Message-id: <38D7296A4C.919AHIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.09 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk References: On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:25:41 -0500 "Latham, Steve" wrote: > > I'm working on it but at the moment its crashing when the MMU is turned on. > I'm using 0x6901b110 that Takafumi Kawana gave me. > Steve > Me too. But 2.3.35 or 2.3.99 working good. It's strange. 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Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:08:12 -0800 Received: from ice.ar51.net (IDENT:root@ice.ar51.net [208.225.80.11]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA29126 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from server01.asi (akron-80-186.ar51.net [208.225.80.186]) by ice.ar51.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA27577; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:07:51 -0500 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:07:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:07:55 -0500 From: Jeff Sutherland Subject: SA-1111 Audio Recording questions. Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "ARM on Linux Mailing List (E-mail)" , "SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)" , "'lart@lart.tudelft.nl'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk We have been experiencing problems with the SA1111 audio recording functions. Has anyone else seen this, or better yet, figured out a workaround? Using latest Assabet with Niponset board, I have been able to isolate the problem to the SADRCS register in the SAC section of the SA-1111 chip. The SA-1111 SADRSA (receive buffer A pointer) SADRCA (receive buffer A count) SADRSB(receive buffer B pointer) and SADRCB(receive buffer B count) registers are first properly initialized. I know that these are correct because when I get DONEA flag the A buffer is filled in with the data I would expect. Also, when I get the DONEB flag the data in the B buffer is filled in with the data I would expect. The problem is that the ping pong nature for the receiver is either broken or I'm missing something. I am listing six test sets with my results. I would like you to give me your feed back on possible work arounds. The following are six of the several tests I have run on the SADRCS register (Note: the SADTCS register operates as I would expect and I do have playback working, via DMA & interrupts from the memory on the Assabet board). TEST 1 ------ Write 0 to SADRCS - disable receive DMA controller Write 1 to SADRCS - Enable DMA (note: only doing this in polled mode for these tests) Write 11 to SADRCS - Set STARTA flag Read 9 from SADRCS - Read DONEA flag set Write 9 to SADRCS - Clear the DONEA flag Read 1 from SADRCS - Dma enabled. Write 11 to SADRCS - Set STARTA flag Read 81 from SADRCS - BIU Set, No DONEA, Dead at this point can set either STARTA/B and never get any more DONE flags. TEST 2 ------ Write 0 to SADRCS - disable receive DMA controller Write 1 to SADRCS - Enable DMA (note: only doing this in polled mode for these tests) Write 51 to SADRCS - Set STARTA/STARTB flags Read 89 from SADRCS - Read DONEA flag set, BIU set Write 89 to SADRCS - Clear the DONEA flag Read 81 from SADRCS - BIU Set, No DONEB, Dead at this point can set either STARTA/B and never get any more DONE flags. TEST 3 ------ Write 0 to SADRCS - disable receive DMA controller Write 1 to SADRCS - Enable DMA (note: only doing this in polled mode for these tests) Write 41 to SADRCS - Set STARTB flag Read 21 from SADRCS - Read DONEB flag set Write 21 to SADRCS - Clear the DONEB flag Read 1 from SADRCS - Dma enabled. Write 11 to SADRCS - Set STARTA flag Read 81 from SADRCS - BIU Set, No DONEA, Dead at this point can set either STARTA/B and never get any more DONE flags. TEST 4 ------ Write 0 to SADRCS - disable receive DMA controller Write 1 to SADRCS - Enable DMA (note: only doing this in polled mode for these tests) Write 51 to SADRCS - Set STARTA/STARTB flags Read 89 from SADRCS - Read DONEA flag set, BIU set Write C9 to SADRCS - Clear the DONEA flag, set the STARTB flag Read C1 from SADRCS - BIU Set, No DONEB, Dead at this point can set either STARTA/B and never get any more DONE flags. TEST 5 ------ Write 0 to SADRCS - disable receive DMA controller Write 1 to SADRCS - Enable DMA (note: only doing this in polled mode for these tests) Write 51 to SADRCS - Set STARTA/STARTB flags Read 89 from SADRCS - Read DONEA flag set, BIU set> Write 99 to SADRCS - Clear the DONEA flag, set STARTA Read 91 from SADRCS - BIU Set, No DONEA, Dead at this point can set either STARTA/B and never get any more DONE flags. TEST 6 ------ Write 0 to SADRCS - disable receive DMA controller Write 1 to SADRCS - Enable DMA (note: only doing this in polled mode for these tests) Write 41 to SADRCS - Set STARTB flag Read 21 from SADRCS - Read DONEB flag set Write 21 to SADRCS - Clear the DONEB flag Read 1 from SADRCS - Dma enabled. Write 41 to SADRCS - Set STARTB flag Read 81 from SADRCS - BIU Set, No DONEB, Dead at this point can set either STARTA/B and never get any more DONE flags. It appears that the transition between buffers is broken, if the BIU bit gets set we're done and no further activity happens on that record channel. Thanks, Wayne G. Peters Accelent Systems Inc. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Mar 21 15:28:36 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA13082; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:28:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA12575 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:28:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRS00HPY07L89@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:28:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA29555; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:23:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11719; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:22:39 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA16710; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:22:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA16699; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16374; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:22:28 -0800 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA11805 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.161.40.82] (tvs082.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.82]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA10255; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:22:19 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:21:53 +0100 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: SA-1111 Audio Recording questions. In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Jeff Sutherland Cc: "ARM on Linux Mailing List (E-mail)" , "SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)" , "'lart@lart.tudelft.nl'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk At 15:07 +0100 21-03-2000, Jeff Sutherland wrote: >We have been experiencing problems with the SA1111 audio recording >functions. Has anyone else seen this, or better yet, figured out a >workaround? > Using latest Assabet with Niponset board, I have been able to >isolate the problem to the SADRCS register in the SAC section of the SA-1111 >chip. There was a thread on the newsgroup comp.sys.arm on this subject quite recently; you may want to check http://www.deja.com/ for it. JDB. -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. Free hardware design files. http://www.lart.tudelft.nl From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Mar 21 19:35:44 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA14848; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:35:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA19528 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:35:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRS00AHKBNIJJ@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:35:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA21839; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28626; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:29:51 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA16739; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:29:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA16781; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:29:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08177; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:29:11 -0800 Received: from hotmail.com (f26.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.26]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA28360 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:29:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 34852 invoked by uid 0); Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:29:06 +0000 Received: from 24.222.63.8 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:29:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:29:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Gilroy Billard Subject: Tools and Kernal for SA-1110 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000321182906.34851.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Precedence: bulk X-Originating-Ip: [24.222.63.8] Hi, I am considering a SA-1110 based embedded computer, to which I would like to port Linux. At this point I am still considering both a standard port and a real-time port, weighing the relative advantages and disadvantages. For each option I was wondering which kernal to start with and what toolchain will work. Could someone point me in the right direction, perhaps a file which details this stuff? Gilroy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Mar 21 20:13:10 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA14980; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:13:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA20113 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:13:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRS00BNGDDVAA@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:13:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA24968; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:07:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00085; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:07:44 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA16679; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA16705; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:07:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30410; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:07:28 -0800 Received: from hydra.wireless-sys.com (dryline-fw.wireless-sys.com [216.126.67.45]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA31441 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:07:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from wireless-sys.com (gordon.wireless-sys.com [192.168.11.138]) by hydra.wireless-sys.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA27344; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:07:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:07:11 -0500 From: "Scott K. Lindsay, P.Eng." Subject: Re: Device address weirdness Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: Scott.Lindsay@wireless-sys.com Message-id: <38D7C85F.1F6E8D7D@wireless-sys.com> Organization: Wireless System Technologies MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13-4mdk i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Scott K. Lindsay P.Eng. wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > I'm working on a device driver for SA1100 linux and running > > into a problem. I'm using 2.3.35 (with rmk & np patches) and > > gcc-2.95.2 toolchain. The driver currently uses a 10ms kernel > > timer to simulate an interrupt (the hardware's not fully baked > > yet). > > You could use OSMR1 to generate interrupts, since this interrupt could be > assigned and registered by your driver. This would make your setup more > like if it was a real life interrupt with variable intervals and won't be > synchronized on the OS timer. That's true and a reasonable thought. I'm not sure that it matters but it might be worth trying. > > If I do the access to the device within the function triggered > > by the kernel timer, all is well. If I use the timer function > > to add the function to tq_immediate and mark it active, things are > > not so well. The device access function causes the kernel to freeze > > (no message, apparently no external bus activity). In an attempt > > to find out what the CPU is doing (if anything), I used the nowb > > and nocache command line parameters. If I do that the problem goes > > away. > > I would rather suspect a timing issue than cache coherency, especially > when PCMCIA mem space isn't cacheable. Beware 16-bit access on 8-bit > devices -- I think there is an erata about that for the SA1100. It seems that it doesn't have to be our device. Writing to an on-board serial port has the same effect and that shouldn't be affected by the PCMCIA timing. If we take out the device access from the bottom half, all is well. If we add in a write to a serial port's data register, the system eventually freezes (if the data cache is enabled). Does that ring any bells? I'm currently looking at the DRAM timing to see if that has any effect. skl -- Scott K. Lindsay, P.Eng. Wireless System Technologies Scott.Lindsay@wireless-sys.com ---------------------------IMPORTANT NOTICE--------------------------- This message, and its attachments if any, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and contains information that is Valuable, Proprietary and Confidential to Wireless System Technologies. 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From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 22 01:36:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id BAA16182; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:36:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA26054 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:36:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRS000GGSCFRE@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:36:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id QAA14583; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:30:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26239; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:30:07 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA16903; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:29:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA16906; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:29:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12280; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:29:05 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id QAA15621 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:29:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01349; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:34:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:34:47 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Device address weirdness In-reply-to: <38D7C85F.1F6E8D7D@wireless-sys.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: "Scott K. Lindsay, P.Eng." Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Scott K. Lindsay, P.Eng. wrote: > It seems that it doesn't have to be our device. Writing to an on-board > serial port has the same effect and that shouldn't be affected by the PCMCIA > timing. If we take out the device access from the bottom half, all is > well. If > we add in a write to a serial port's data register, the system eventually > freezes > (if the data cache is enabled). Does that ring any bells? I'm currently > looking > at the DRAM timing to see if that has any effect. Hugo (empeg) and I experienced some mysterious freeze problems last year... until we found it was due to an interrupt race in the timer interrupt handler. What patch version are you using? Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 22 09:02:46 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id JAA18047; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:02:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA01203 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:02:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRT009CID0JJU@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:02:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id XAA31890; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:57:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07198; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:56:55 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA16525; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:54:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA17126; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:54:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21219; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:53:59 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id XAA11494 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:53:57 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:52:15 +1100 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:52:15 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Linux and zeroed memory Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Hi, I've recently tried out running PLEB hardware with 64MB of DRAM vs 32MB. However being lazy I didn't modify the bootloader to zero out the additional 32MB of ram. On boot the kernel freezing after being unzipped. Is it freezing due to the top 32MB of mem not being zero'd or might it be something else? Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 22 16:00:33 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA21033; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:00:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA15759 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:00:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRT00M1TWCUSX@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:00:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA02275; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13222; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:54:29 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA17288; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:52:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA17278; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18709; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:52:47 -0800 Received: from hydra.wireless-sys.com (dryline-fw.wireless-sys.com [216.126.67.45]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA31127 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from wireless-sys.com (gordon.wireless-sys.com [192.168.11.138]) by hydra.wireless-sys.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA32274; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:52:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:52:30 -0500 From: "Scott K. Lindsay, P.Eng." Subject: Re: Device address weirdness Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: Scott.Lindsay@wireless-sys.com Message-id: <38D8DE2E.69FBFE18@wireless-sys.com> Organization: Wireless System Technologies MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13-4mdk i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Scott K. Lindsay, P.Eng. wrote: > > > It seems that it doesn't have to be our device. Writing to an on-board > > serial port has the same effect and that shouldn't be affected by the PCMCIA > > timing. If we take out the device access from the bottom half, all is > > well. If > > we add in a write to a serial port's data register, the system eventually > > freezes > > (if the data cache is enabled). Does that ring any bells? I'm currently > > looking > > at the DRAM timing to see if that has any effect. > > Hugo (empeg) and I experienced some mysterious freeze problems last > year... until we found it was due to an interrupt race in the timer > interrupt handler. Okay. What would I look for to determine whether that's happening? > What patch version are you using? We're using 2.3.35 with the rmk1 and np7 patches. skl -- Scott K. Lindsay, P.Eng. Wireless System Technologies Scott.Lindsay@wireless-sys.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 22 16:28:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA21312; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:28:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA16723 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:28:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRT001L9XNKZN@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:28:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA06863; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30990; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:23:04 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA17316; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:22:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA17309; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14937; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:22:14 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA03589 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:22:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:19:12 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Device address weirdness In-reply-to: <38D8DE2E.69FBFE18@wireless-sys.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Scott.Lindsay@wireless-sys.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Scott K. Lindsay, P.Eng. wrote: > Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > > Hugo (empeg) and I experienced some mysterious freeze problems last > > year... until we found it was due to an interrupt race in the timer > > interrupt handler. > > Okay. What would I look for to determine whether that's happening? > > > What patch version are you using? > > We're using 2.3.35 with the rmk1 and np7 patches. OK, forget about what I said then. The bug I was thinking of has been fixed long before 2.3.35. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 22 16:33:59 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA21363; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:33:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA16911 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:33:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRT002UAXWL22@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:33:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA06202; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18372; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:28:25 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA17336; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:27:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA17295; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:27:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19504; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:27:32 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA00051 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:27:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:25:04 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Linux and zeroed memory In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > Hi, I've recently tried out running PLEB hardware with 64MB of > DRAM vs 32MB. However being lazy I didn't modify the bootloader to zero > out the additional 32MB of ram. On boot the kernel freezing after being > unzipped. Is it freezing due to the top 32MB of mem not being zero'd or > might it be something else? It should be something else. The kernel doesn't care if memory has been pre-zeroed or not. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 22 19:13:16 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA22615; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:13:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA21147 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:13:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRU00BFD5A2LI@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:13:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA19682; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:07:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16255; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:07:26 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA17352; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:06:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA17368; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:06:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31150; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:06:21 -0800 Received: from etek.chalmers.se (quarl0.etek.chalmers.se [129.16.32.20]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA18161 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:06:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from hortensia.etek.chalmers.se (_7-A4D@hortensia [129.16.32.92]) by etek.chalmers.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11753 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:05:02 +0100 (MET) Received: (from e4borgen@localhost) by hortensia.etek.chalmers.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28227 for SA1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:05:02 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:05:02 +0100 From: Per Borgentun Subject: Re: Linux and zeroed memory In-reply-to: ; from Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins on Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 06:52:15PM +1100 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: SA1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000322190502.A21291@etek.chalmers.se> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: X-Authentication-warning: quarl0.etek.chalmers.se: Host _7-A4D@hortensia [129.16.32.92] claimed to be hortensia.etek.chalmers.se * Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins (awiggins@cse.unsw.edu.au) [000322 08:58]: > Hi, I've recently tried out running PLEB hardware with 64MB of > DRAM vs 32MB. However being lazy I didn't modify the bootloader to zero > out the additional 32MB of ram. On boot the kernel freezing after being > unzipped. Is it freezing due to the top 32MB of mem not being zero'd or > might it be something else? > > Cheers Adam I have had similar problem with our own sa1100 based 'Popey' hardware, using 2.2.12 Image file works fine but using 2.2.12 zImage or 2.2.14 zImage kernel makes it freeze after unpacking the kernel. We are not zeroing any memory. Does anyone have any hints on whats going on ? Thanks. /Per B From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 22 19:25:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA22744; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:25:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA21348 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:25:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRU00BNP5TQLI@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:25:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA18330; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:19:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09100; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:19:43 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA17339; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA17328; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:18:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32091; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:18:52 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA19135 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA22673; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:17:23 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:17:23 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: Linux and zeroed memory In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: awiggins@cse.unsw.edu.au Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200003221817.TAA22673@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:52:15 +1100 (EST), Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > Hi, I've recently tried out running PLEB hardware with 64MB of > DRAM vs 32MB. However being lazy I didn't modify the bootloader to zero > out the additional 32MB of ram. On boot the kernel freezing after being > unzipped. Is it freezing due to the top 32MB of mem not being zero'd or > might it be something else? BLOB tries to zero the complete SA1100 memory range, so unless you modified BLOB, it will also zero your additional 32MB DRAM. Erik -- "[Microsoft] ... guarantees 99.8% NT uptime for certain hard-/software. That's exactly the 3 minutes daily that my NT server needs to reboot." -- ZDnet editorial From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Mar 22 19:51:15 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA23023; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:51:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA21929 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:51:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRU00CCH71DTS@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:51:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA21506; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:45:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05103; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:45:40 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA17363; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:45:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA17378; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04466; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:45:09 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA18351 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:45:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:42:28 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Linux and zeroed memory In-reply-to: <20000322190502.A21291@etek.chalmers.se> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Per Borgentun Cc: SA1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Per Borgentun wrote: > I have had similar problem with our own sa1100 based 'Popey' hardware, > using 2.2.12 Image file works fine but using 2.2.12 zImage > or 2.2.14 zImage kernel makes it freeze after unpacking the kernel. Please note that it's unlikely that any unmodified kernel passed 2.2.13 or so will boot using Image. For a cleaner tree, I removed some SA1100 stuff from linux/arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.S to put them in linux/arch/boot/compressed/head-sa1100.S which is executed just before uncompression occurs. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 23 00:09:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA24733; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:09:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA27288 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:09:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRU00M6TJ0GL2@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:09:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA09958; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14764; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:04:22 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA17473; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:03:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA17477; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10479; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:03:34 -0800 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA32741 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.161.115.44] (jdbakker.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.115.44]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA18690; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:03:23 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:03:04 +0100 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: Linux and zeroed memory In-reply-to: <200003221817.TAA22673@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: awiggins@cse.unsw.edu.au, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk References: At 19:17 +0100 22-03-2000, Erik Mouw wrote: >On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:52:15 +1100 (EST), Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: >> Hi, I've recently tried out running PLEB hardware with 64MB of >> DRAM vs 32MB. However being lazy I didn't modify the bootloader to zero >> out the additional 32MB of ram. On boot the kernel freezing after being >> unzipped. Is it freezing due to the top 32MB of mem not being zero'd or >> might it be something else? > >BLOB tries to zero the complete SA1100 memory range, so unless you >modified BLOB, it will also zero your additional 32MB DRAM. No, it only zeroes the range from C0000000-CFFFFFFF, or the first two banks. JDB. -- Jan-Derk Bakker, bakker@mmc.et.tudelft.nl The lazy man's proverb: 'There's no business like slow business !' From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 23 02:07:45 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA25427; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 02:07:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA29296 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 02:07:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRU001GHOGUS8@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 02:07:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA18151; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18025; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:01:30 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA17534; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA17502; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08740; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:00:56 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA16579 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:00:54 -0800 (PST) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:59:37 +1100 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:59:37 +1100 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Re: Linux and zeroed memory In-reply-to: <20000322190502.A21291@etek.chalmers.se> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Per Borgentun Cc: SA1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Per Borgentun wrote: > * Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins (awiggins@cse.unsw.edu.au) [000322 08:58]: > > Hi, I've recently tried out running PLEB hardware with 64MB of > > DRAM vs 32MB. However being lazy I didn't modify the bootloader to zero > > out the additional 32MB of ram. On boot the kernel freezing after being > > unzipped. Is it freezing due to the top 32MB of mem not being zero'd or > > might it be something else? > > > > Cheers Adam > > I have had similar problem with our own sa1100 based 'Popey' hardware, > using 2.2.12 Image file works fine but using 2.2.12 zImage > or 2.2.14 zImage kernel makes it freeze after unpacking the kernel. > We are not zeroing any memory. > Does anyone have any hints on whats going on ? Basically with ours I ran a kernel with setting for 32MB of DRAM and it loaded and ran fine on the 64MB hardware but only showing 32MB avaliable. Then setting it to 64MB didn't work. Now that I think about it does linux play with the memory controlers at all or does it asume the boot loader initialised them? I just remembered the boot loader doesn't even enable the last 2 banks either. Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 23 03:28:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id DAA25953; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:28:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA00319 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:28:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRU002JGS86X6@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:28:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id SAA20547; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:23:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26630; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:23:21 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA17579; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:22:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA17603; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03524; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:22:37 -0800 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id SAA21887 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:22:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01983; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:28:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:28:16 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Linux and zeroed memory In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > Basically with ours I ran a kernel with setting for 32MB of DRAM > and it loaded and ran fine on the 64MB hardware but only showing 32MB > avaliable. Then setting it to 64MB didn't work. Now that I think about it > does linux play with the memory controlers at all or does it asume the > boot loader initialised them? I just remembered the boot loader doesn't > even enable the last 2 banks either. That's probably your problem. The kernel doesn't touch memory regs. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 23 10:05:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA28287; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:05:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA06574 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:05:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRV00DKQAKBTK@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:05:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id AAA11631; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:58:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29959; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:58:31 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA17811; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:53:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA17814; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:53:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12000; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:53:42 -0800 Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id AAA08718 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id RAA29731 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:53:37 +0900 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:53:25 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii Subject: ne2000 based card trouble Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <38D9DB851AA.BDA1HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.09 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Hello. Does anybody work ne2000 based card correctly on SA11x0? I met trouble ftp/telnet not work. It seems odd packet don't send/receive correctly. I try follow command; ping -s 555 return follow message; wrong data byte #554 should be 0x2a but was 0xd4 Do I need modify ne.c? ---- Funai Electric R & D Co.,LTD Hiroshi Ishii From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 23 19:01:53 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA01675; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:01:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA23209 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:01:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRV00508ZF3CF@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:01:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA10874; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:56:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01979; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:55:48 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA17996; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA17966; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:55:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29128; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:55:08 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id JAA12356 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:55:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:52:05 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: ne2000 based card trouble In-reply-to: <38D9DB851AA.BDA1HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Hiroshi Ishii Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Hiroshi Ishii wrote: > Hello. > > Does anybody work ne2000 based card correctly on SA11x0? > > I met trouble ftp/telnet not work. It seems odd packet > don't send/receive correctly. I have a similar problem with a SMC9194 chipset. NFS works, even packet length pings too, but TCP connections just hang forever somewhere. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 23 19:14:43 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA01736; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:14:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA23538 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:14:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRW005D600CAC@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:14:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA04289; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28662; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:09:17 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA18008; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA17991; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13646; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:09:07 -0800 Received: from mailgate.keith-koep.com (mailgate.keith-koep.com [195.8.230.32]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA13923 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from otto (otto [195.8.230.40]) by mailgate.keith-koep.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA01110 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:14:11 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:08:32 +0100 (MET) From: keith Subject: SMC91C96 OK Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Reply-to: keith Message-id: <200003231814.TAA01110@mailgate.keith-koep.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: Q2W+oBXxchiFOVCq2Ryghw== Precedence: bulk Our smc91c96 port is working OK. But we have several adaptions to different board types. Are you working with a pcmcia card (Ositech, SMC) or with an on board controller ? > > I have a similar problem with a SMC9194 chipset. NFS works, even packet > length pings too, but TCP connections just hang forever somewhere. > _________________________________________________________________ | | | KEITH & KOEP GMBH DEVELOPMENT OF EMBEDDED CONTROL SYSTEMS | | KOENIGSBERGER STR.2 PHONE +49 (0)202 2525 30 | | D-42277 WUPPERTAL FAX +49 (0)202 2525 333 | | GERMANY keith@keith-koep.com | |_________________________________________________________________| From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 23 19:49:59 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA01856; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:49:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA24200 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:49:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRW0072V1N924@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:49:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA10789; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:44:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27935; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:44:44 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA18011; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA18031; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:44:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06452; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:44:31 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA11264 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:44:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:41:56 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: SMC91C96 OK In-reply-to: <200003231814.TAA01110@mailgate.keith-koep.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: keith Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, keith wrote: > Our smc91c96 port is working OK. But we have several adaptions > to different board types. Maybe you could look at diff-2.3.99-pre1-rmk1-np1. I isolated all IO access of the smc9194.c driver into macros so multiple implementation could share the same codebase. It's not fully cleaned yet, but you should need only few lines to make it work with your setup. > Are you working with a pcmcia card (Ositech, SMC) or with an on board > controller ? It's on-board. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 23 22:32:14 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA02490; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:32:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA27578 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:32:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRW00CBX95NB3@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:32:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA17500; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:26:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03276; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:26:49 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA18090; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA18079; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29402; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:26:03 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA19323 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA02462; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:24:46 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:24:46 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: UCB-1200 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200003232124.WAA02462@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! Hi all, The first two LART KSB prototypes just arrived, so if I can find some spare time this weekend, I'd like to fiddle with the UCB-1200. AFAIK, the Brutus also has this chip, and I'd like to know if somebody has experience with it. Is it functional, is there a driver (I can't find it in the kernel sources)? Erik [who doesn't have a Brutus, just a LART] -- "I'm just this guy you know?" -- Zaphod Beeblebrox in "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 23 22:54:14 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA02571; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:54:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA28039 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:54:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRW00CLEA6BDS@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:54:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA22237; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:49:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08109; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:49:02 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA17504; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:48:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA18109; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:48:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03471; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:48:52 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA22087 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:48:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:40:13 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: UCB-1200 In-reply-to: <200003232124.WAA02462@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > Hi all, > > The first two LART KSB prototypes just arrived, so if I can find some > spare time this weekend, I'd like to fiddle with the UCB-1200. AFAIK, the > Brutus also has this chip, and I'd like to know if somebody has experience > with it. Is it functional, is there a driver (I can't find it in the > kernel sources)? See 2.2.x patches. I didn't port it over to 2.3 yet. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 23 23:01:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA02607; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:01:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA28171 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:01:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRW00DDPAI0AJ@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:01:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA28985; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15078; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:56:03 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA18095; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA18004; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17023; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:55:55 -0800 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA27002 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:55:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA02575; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:54:36 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:54:36 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: UCB-1200 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200003232154.WAA02575@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:40:13 -0500 (EST), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: >> The first two LART KSB prototypes just arrived, so if I can find some >> spare time this weekend, I'd like to fiddle with the UCB-1200. AFAIK, the >> Brutus also has this chip, and I'd like to know if somebody has experience >> with it. Is it functional, is there a driver (I can't find it in the >> kernel sources)? > > See 2.2.x patches. I didn't port it over to 2.3 yet. Ah! I was grep'ing through a 2.3 tree... %-) A 2.2 tree contains much more information. Given the fact that the Itsy guys made it, I assume it is functional. Erik -- "software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems." -- Duncan Simpson on BugTraq From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 23 23:32:38 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA02730; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:32:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA28927 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:32:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRW00EALBYCIT@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:32:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA25853; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:27:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31167; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:27:08 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA18131; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:26:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA18134; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:26:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10119; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:26:37 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA32031 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:26:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:18:21 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: UCB-1200 In-reply-to: <200003232154.WAA02575@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:40:13 -0500 (EST), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > > > See 2.2.x patches. I didn't port it over to 2.3 yet. > > Ah! I was grep'ing through a 2.3 tree... %-) A 2.2 tree contains much more > information. Given the fact that the Itsy guys made it, I assume it is > functional. But... if ever you feel like porting it to 2.3... be my guest! :-) Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 24 14:48:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA06620; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:48:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA19311 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:48:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRX003QPIC28Q@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:48:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id FAA16698; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 05:40:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06368; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 05:40:42 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA18434; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 05:39:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA18427; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 05:39:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02993; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 05:38:59 -0800 Received: from gate1.itt.com (gate1.itt.com [151.190.254.100]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id FAA06023 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 05:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from FWEMAIL2 by gate1.itt.com via smtpd (for mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) with SMTP; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:38:59 +0000 (UT) Received: by fwemail2.de.ittind.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:38:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:38:45 -0500 From: "Latham, Steve" Subject: RE: any linux running on Assebet? Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'daihbxd'" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk I'm working on it, but I've little related previous experience. I'm into init_irq. I only have output by brute force to the UART physical address. I've yet to get the kernel to handle output properly ( printk ). From what I understand from one blurb in the angel code, assabet GPIO alternate mappings for UART 1 are not physically realized - so that is the mod I'm working and I thought I had that resolved, but I'm missing something. Steve PS: Any help is welcome! -----Original Message----- From: daihbxd [mailto:daihbxd@sina.com] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 2:35 PM To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: any linux running on Assebet? I got my Assebet(SA1110,32M RAM,32M FLASH), with linux 2.3.35,rmk1,np7, the processor id corrected,but it just doesnt work. anybody got linux running on Assebet? It seems SA1100 is going to be out-dated,but SA1110 is still just a box:) advices,please. =================================================================== PB@KCb7Q5gWSSJOd http://mail.sina.com.cn From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 24 06:43:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA04163; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:43:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA06355 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:43:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FRW0007TVX4J0@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:43:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id VAA25698; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:36:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16187; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:35:51 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA18264; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:34:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA18272; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:34:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15766; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:34:27 -0800 Received: from sina.com ([202.106.187.163]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id VAA25935 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:34:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5490 invoked by uid 99); Fri, 24 Mar 2000 05:34:45 +0000 Date: Fri Mar 24 13:34:45 CST 2000 From: daihbxd Subject: any linux running on Assebet? Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000324053445.5489.qmail@sina.com> X-Mailer: SinaMail 3.0Beta (FireToad) Precedence: bulk I got my Assebet(SA1110,32M RAM,32M FLASH), with linux 2.3.35,rmk1,np7, the processor id corrected,but it just doesnt work. anybody got linux running on Assebet? It seems SA1100 is going to be out-dated,but SA1110 is still just a box:) advices,please. =================================================================== PB@KCb7Q5gWSSJOd http://mail.sina.com.cn From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Mar 30 20:33:53 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA14968; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:33:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA01177 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:33:53 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FS8007K2ZKFX8@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:33:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA14636; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:28:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12678; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:27:58 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA20909; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:25:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA20898; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:25:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02680; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:25:04 -0800 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA03090 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:24:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:22:54 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.3.99-pre3-rmk1-np1 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk ... is available from ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico . This contains: - serial driver updates to reflect latest changes in the kernel - big time timer cleanup (time keeping is now exact) * Mike: Tell Hugo to look at it -- I think my solution is much better than his! :-) - Intel Flash block driver (currently broken: CURRENT->sector doesn't seem to be the current sector anymore, after all block device changes lately) * there is a diff-2.3.35-rmk1-np9 with this driver working BTW: Russell already merged parts of previous SA1100 patches! NOTE: It seems that at least one certain big organisation is unable to reach ftp.netwinder.org at all for many days now. If it's your case, I've exceptionaly put a copy if diff-2.3.99-pre3-rmk1-np1.gz on ftp.cam.org/users/nico. In either case, I would like to know if you are able to access ftp.netwinder.org or not. Please sent me a private e-mail. Have fun! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 31 20:49:37 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA22346; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:49:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA06156 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:49:35 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSA0059RUYM6R@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:49:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA23609; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22725; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:43:15 -0800 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA21364; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA21356; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29918; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:40:33 -0800 Received: from ADSServer.flatpanels.com (flatpanels.com [207.196.69.66] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA09989 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by flatpanels.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:36:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:36:00 -0500 From: "Saxena, Nikita" Subject: Recent Ramdisks Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <91B07CA588CED3118CFE00105AC97594D160@flatpanels.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone knows of recent ext2fs ramdisks for SA1100 available for download from the internet. Thanks, Nikita From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Apr 3 20:21:16 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA05922; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:21:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA28528 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:21:15 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSG00MMMDNCVE@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:21:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA08576; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00484; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:15:28 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA22595; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA22597; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15490; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:13:25 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA20708 for ; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA05887; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 20:12:04 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 20:12:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Announce: LART ramdisk page Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: lart@lart.tudelft.nl Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200004031812.UAA05887@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! Hi all, We just made a page with RAM disks on the LART site (see signature for URL). There are currently two ramdisks available: the modified Itsy ramdisk, and a glibc-2.1.2 based ramdisk. The latter is not yet tested, but we all know about Eric Raymond's "release early, release often" mantra... Erik -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. Free hardware design files. http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Apr 3 20:53:40 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA06099; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:53:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA29377 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:53:40 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSG000JLF5CUH@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:53:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA29413; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14484; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:48:27 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA22577; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA22625; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22509; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:48:02 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA30366 for ; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:37:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Announce: LART ramdisk page In-reply-to: <200004031812.UAA05887@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > Hi all, > > We just made a page with RAM disks on the LART site (see signature for > URL). There are currently two ramdisks available: the modified Itsy > ramdisk, and a glibc-2.1.2 based ramdisk. Damn! I was just about to announce that I produced a glibc-2.1.2 ramdisk too! I finished it an hour ago. I wanted to test it tonight before announcing it... :-) So, if all is well, I'll have a new ramdisk image available by tomorrow too, stuffed with Red Hat style sysv initscripts, z-modem and many networking tools. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Apr 3 22:53:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA06525; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:53:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02693 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:53:12 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSG0064FKONFX@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:53:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA22154; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24968; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:46:28 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA22672; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA22656; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32106; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:45:30 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA05760 for ; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA06481; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 22:42:51 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 22:42:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: Announce: LART ramdisk page In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200004032042.WAA06481@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:37:08 -0400 (EDT), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: >> We just made a page with RAM disks on the LART site (see signature for >> URL). There are currently two ramdisks available: the modified Itsy >> ramdisk, and a glibc-2.1.2 based ramdisk. > > Damn! I was just about to announce that I produced a glibc-2.1.2 ramdisk > too! I finished it an hour ago. I wanted to test it tonight before > announcing it... :-) You can still be the first with a _working_ ramdisk, because my glibc-2.1.2 based ramdisk doesn't work yet. I think I made a minor mistake with a (busybox) init script, because I get dropped on an interesting "init-2.03 #" prompt that turns out to be bash. > So, if all is well, I'll have a new ramdisk image available by tomorrow > too, stuffed with Red Hat style sysv initscripts, z-modem and many > networking tools. No, mine is a lot smaller thanks to busybox and tinylogin. Bash is currently the biggest part, and I plan to replace it with ash. I also have to add z-modem and insmod, now you're speaking of it... Erik -- "people are still using Win98? Wow... VMS i could understand, but WinXX - that's just so passe..." -- Paul Jakma on linux-kernel From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Apr 3 23:06:32 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA06608; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:06:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03072 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:06:31 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSG006OTLAT2G@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:06:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA09115; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30283; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:00:04 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA22708; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA22648; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27666; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:59:53 -0700 Received: from crlwebmail.crl.dec.com (crlwebmail.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.2]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id QAA03053; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 16:54:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crlwebmail.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 16:58:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 16:55:16 -0400 From: George France Subject: RE: Announce: LART ramdisk page Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Erik Mouw'" , nico@CAM.ORG Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk I am working on one, as well. :-)) --George George France, france@crl.dec.com Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation One Kendall Square, Building 700 MS: CRL Cambridge, MA 02139 USA -----Original Message----- From: Erik Mouw [mailto:J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl] Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 4:43 PM To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl; sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: Announce: LART ramdisk page On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:37:08 -0400 (EDT), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: >> We just made a page with RAM disks on the LART site (see signature for >> URL). There are currently two ramdisks available: the modified Itsy >> ramdisk, and a glibc-2.1.2 based ramdisk. > > Damn! I was just about to announce that I produced a glibc-2.1.2 ramdisk > too! I finished it an hour ago. I wanted to test it tonight before > announcing it... :-) You can still be the first with a _working_ ramdisk, because my glibc-2.1.2 based ramdisk doesn't work yet. I think I made a minor mistake with a (busybox) init script, because I get dropped on an interesting "init-2.03 #" prompt that turns out to be bash. > So, if all is well, I'll have a new ramdisk image available by tomorrow > too, stuffed with Red Hat style sysv initscripts, z-modem and many > networking tools. No, mine is a lot smaller thanks to busybox and tinylogin. Bash is currently the biggest part, and I plan to replace it with ash. I also have to add z-modem and insmod, now you're speaking of it... Erik -- "people are still using Win98? Wow... VMS i could understand, but WinXX - that's just so passe..." -- Paul Jakma on linux-kernel From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Apr 3 23:18:42 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA06669; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:18:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03323 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:18:42 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSG007IULV423@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:18:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA20570; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09791; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:13:36 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA22670; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA22695; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24229; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:13:18 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA08693 for ; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA06639; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:11:52 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:11:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: RE: Announce: LART ramdisk page In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: france@crl.dec.com Cc: nico@CAM.ORG, lart@lart.tudelft.nl, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200004032111.XAA06639@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 16:55:16 -0400, George France wrote: > I am working on one, as well. :-)) Oh, cool! So that makes three: - my ramdisk is (eh, will be) small - Nico's ramdisk is full featured and RedHat-ish - Your ramdisk is ...? ;-)) Anyway, this will solve the problem that people can't get a ramdisk for their board. Erik -- There was a point to this story, but it has temporarily escaped the croniclers mind. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Apr 3 23:33:22 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA06725; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:33:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03590 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:33:22 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSG007C9MJKN2@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:33:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA28890; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04785; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:28:14 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA22711; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA22698; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08076; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:28:00 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA25057 for ; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:17:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Announce: LART ramdisk page In-reply-to: <200004032042.WAA06481@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > > So, if all is well, I'll have a new ramdisk image available by tomorrow > > too, stuffed with Red Hat style sysv initscripts, z-modem and many > > networking tools. > > No, mine is a lot smaller thanks to busybox and tinylogin. Do you think I don't have those? :-) I just preserved the regular init since I don't like busybox's init much. > Bash is > currently the biggest part, and I plan to replace it with ash. I don't. My bash is about 340k where ash is 110k, but bash's touch anf feel is better to me. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Apr 4 07:01:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id HAA07899; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 07:01:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA08589 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 07:01:00 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSH00GLJ79NPT@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 07:01:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id VAA19519; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19074; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:55:03 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA22887; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA22840; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10593; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:54:01 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id VAA02022 for ; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 00:51:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: New ELF ramdisk In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > So, if all is well, I'll have a new ramdisk image available by tomorrow > too, stuffed with Red Hat style sysv initscripts, z-modem and many > networking tools. So, it's available and pretty much working. The file can be retrieved from: ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ramdisk_img.gz The big features are: - glibc-2.1.2 - bash-1.14.7 - busybox-0.43 (most of it, but not all) - Red Hat style sysv initscripts (just drop Titan-VI RPMs...) - insmod/rmmod/lsmod - ifconfig/route/ping/traceroute/arp/netstat - telnet/ftp/inetd/in.telnetd - rz/sz - ae (text editor) - etc... The compressed file is 1.49 MB. There is approx 1.8 MB free on the filesystem. There should not be any problem running dynamically linked programs anymore. Tested on ADS ThinClient, but should work on anything else with a SA110 core too. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Apr 4 08:53:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id IAA08308; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:53:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA10026 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:53:54 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSH00K1DCHT83@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:53:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id XAA01593; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07592; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:48:10 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA22891; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA22899; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05535; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:46:26 -0700 Received: from mail.nulec.com.au ([203.102.220.26]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id XAA05124 for ; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 16:45:36 +1000 Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 16:45:35 +1000 From: Rodney Davies Subject: RE: New ELF ramdisk Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Nicolas Pitre'" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <1072F1A27E99D3119747005004B9A380415768@MAIL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hi Nicolas!! Great to hear of your progress with your Ramdisk!! Very impressive!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicolas Pitre [mailto:nico@cam.org] > Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2000 2:52 PM > To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl > Subject: New ELF ramdisk > The big features are: > > - glibc-2.1.2 > The compressed file is 1.49 MB. There is approx 1.8 MB free on the > filesystem. There should not be any problem running > dynamically linked > programs anymore. The question I have for you, is how did you configure glibc to compile very small?? I'm trying to prepare an embedded environment, but am having great difficulty working out what/how to do anything with the libraries... I really don't quite know where to start, was wondering if you could please point me in the right direction?? Thanks Nicolas! Cheers, Rod From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Apr 4 10:57:09 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA09238; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:57:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA13734 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:57:09 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSH004IRI775Z@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:57:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA07293; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 01:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12327; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 01:51:45 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA22954; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 01:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA22969; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 01:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19279; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 01:51:10 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id BAA13389 for ; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 01:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA09186; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:49:50 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:49:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: New ELF ramdisk In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, lart@lart.tudelft.nl Message-id: <200004040849.KAA09186@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 00:51:54 -0400 (EDT), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > >> So, if all is well, I'll have a new ramdisk image available by tomorrow >> too, stuffed with Red Hat style sysv initscripts, z-modem and many >> networking tools. > > So, it's available and pretty much working. The file can be retrieved > from: > > ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ramdisk_img.gz Ehm, maybe you should rename it because there is also a file ramdisk-img.gz in the same directory. [snip] > Tested on ADS ThinClient, but should work on anything else with a > SA110 core too. I just tested it on a LART and it works. One question: how did you make the file /etc/ld.so.cache? I can't find a proper ldconfig to generate it. I have the impression that I only miss that file to get it working (it alreay works with statically linked binaries). Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Apr 4 16:20:59 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA11434; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:20:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA25027 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:20:58 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSH0073FX6X5S@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:20:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA31100; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18978; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:14:59 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA23036; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA23061; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23420; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:14:19 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA29737 for ; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10616; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:14:12 -0400 Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:14:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: RE: New ELF ramdisk In-reply-to: <1072F1A27E99D3119747005004B9A380415768@MAIL> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Rodney Davies Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Rodney Davies wrote: > Hi Nicolas!! > > Great to hear of your progress with your Ramdisk!! Very impressive!! > > The question I have for you, is how did you configure glibc to compile very > small?? I'm trying to prepare an embedded environment, but am having great > difficulty working out what/how to do anything with the libraries... There is no particular configuration. My libc-2.1.2.so is still 936KB after being stripped. And still, you need some other glibc component libraries to have a full running system. For example, to know what libraries a particular program requires, use ldd on it. If you have glibc on your development host, it should give you the same libraries as the ARM system would require. So the idea is to use only those glibc sub-libraries that your applications requires... and strip them. Also beware those libraries that are loaded in the middle of a program execution. Those aren't listed with ldd. Some of those are libnss_files, libnss_dns, etc. In this case, you don't have to provide all the libraries your application wants to load, but only the useful ones. I know that the Linux Router Project (LRP) uses a script that looks at all used library symbols in all applications on the ramdisk, and then uses a linker trick to create a new dynamically loadable library from the original ones with only required symbols. I gave it a shot with the ARM libraries but the resulting library isn't working. Didn't investigate it further. Maybe you could have a look at Cygnus' newlib if it provides you what you need for your apps. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Apr 4 16:28:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA11480; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:28:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA25255 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:28:17 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSH0072OXJ3TT@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:28:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA31098; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10615; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:23:07 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA23078; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA23053; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:22:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18333; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:22:57 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA28994 for ; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10622; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:21:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:21:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: New ELF ramdisk In-reply-to: <200004040849.KAA09186@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, lart@lart.tudelft.nl Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > > So, it's available and pretty much working. The file can be retrieved > > from: > > > > ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ramdisk_img.gz > > Ehm, maybe you should rename it because there is also a file > ramdisk-img.gz in the same directory. Huh.. right. The old one has been renamed ramdisk_img.old.gz > One question: how did you make the file /etc/ld.so.cache? I can't find a > proper ldconfig to generate it. I have the impression that I only miss > that file to get it working (it alreay works with statically linked > binaries). This is not mandatory. It worked even without ld.so.cache before, as long as you have correct symlinks. I used ldconfig just because I didn't want to create all symlinks by hand. I used ldconfig from Titan-VI. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Apr 5 00:43:32 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA13791; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:43:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA08864 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:43:31 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSI006JSKGIBC@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:43:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA25823; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01077; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:35:10 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA23150; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA23190; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02932; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:32:13 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA00836 for ; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA13741; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 00:30:48 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 00:30:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: New ELF ramdisk In-reply-to: <200004040849.KAA09186@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, lart@lart.tudelft.nl Message-id: <200004042230.AAA13741@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:49:50 +0200 (MET DST), Erik Mouw wrote: > On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 00:51:54 -0400 (EDT), Nicolas Pitre wrote: >> Tested on ADS ThinClient, but should work on anything else with a >> SA110 core too. > > I just tested it on a LART and it works. I hate to followup my own posts, but I'd like you to know that it also works with a Netwinder, though it needs "some" extra work: Unzip ramdisk and mount it on a Linux box using the loop device, NFS export that directory, put it in the dhcpd.conf file, put up a tftp directory with a proper Netwinder kernel, start Netwinder, wait for bootprompt, enter "boot diskless", Netwinder boots and NFS mounts the ramdisk, wait for the "login:" prompt. Easy, eh? ;-) Erik -- "I'm just this guy you know?" -- Zaphod Beeblebrox in "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Apr 5 10:57:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA15904; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:57:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA20347 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:57:34 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSJ000ALCVWXG@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:57:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA29534; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 01:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01810; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 01:51:56 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA26037; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 01:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA26050; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 01:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19133; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 01:51:10 -0700 Received: from relay04.netaddress.usa.net (relay04.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.184]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA26659 for ; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 01:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6214 invoked from network); Tue, 04 Apr 2000 23:05:25 +0000 Received: from nwcst316.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.23.61) by outbound.netaddress.usa.net with SMTP; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 23:05:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 7633 invoked by uid 60001); Tue, 04 Apr 2000 23:05:24 +0000 Received: from 204.68.23.61 by nwcst316 for [206.170.3.190] via web-mailer(M3.4.0.33) on Tue Apr 4 23:05:24 GMT 2000 Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:05:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Kumar Ramanathan Subject: Loading linux kernel on the SA1100. Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000404230524.7632.qmail@nwcst316.netaddress.usa.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.4.0.33) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Hi , = I have a Network Processor board with a Strong ARM (SA1100) on it. I need to load linux onto the board. = I was considering overwriting Flash RAM (which currently has VXWORKS and = ucos on it). Is there anbother way ??? Like pumping directly into RAM ??? Thanks, Kumar ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Apr 5 02:37:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA14162; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 02:37:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA10859 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 02:37:16 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSI00933PQ31L@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 02:37:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA14362; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09969; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:31:51 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA23285; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA23258; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05531; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:31:13 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id RAA14657 for ; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10862; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 20:30:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 20:30:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: New ELF ramdisk In-reply-to: <200004042230.AAA13741@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, lart@lart.tudelft.nl Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:49:50 +0200 (MET DST), Erik Mouw wrote: > > On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 00:51:54 -0400 (EDT), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > >> Tested on ADS ThinClient, but should work on anything else with a > >> SA110 core too. > > > > I just tested it on a LART and it works. > > I hate to followup my own posts, but I'd like you to know that it also > works with a Netwinder... Cool! :-) I should say that it also work on an EBSA285! :-) Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Apr 5 07:36:36 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id HAA14996; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:36:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA14681 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:36:35 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSJ00DAT3KY6X@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:36:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id WAA12653; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 22:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29676; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 22:30:56 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA23369; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 22:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA23321; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 22:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28584; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 22:29:41 -0700 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id WAA11529 for ; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 22:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: From mozart With LocalMail ; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 15:23:29 +1000 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 15:23:28 +1000 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Assebet JTAG In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@mozart.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: lart@lart.tudelft.nl, "utility account for group.pleb " , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Cc: "Chagas, Jason" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Ok can someone explain something to me. I just got an Assebet (SA-1110 evaluation board) and it has a PC parallel port to SA-1100 JTAG. The board doesn't appear to do any voltage translation for the JTAG_CLK and JTAG_TMS signals. Are they using 5volts from the PC for these signals (which is out of the chips max 3.6volt signal spec AFAIK) or am I missing something here? Anyone with a assebet tried using the parallel port JTAGing? Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Apr 5 13:58:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id NAA17017; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:58:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA26915 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:58:00 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSJ00G0CL8N1F@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:58:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id EAA06574; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02703; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:51:52 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA26102; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA26122; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29207; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:51:02 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id EAA12722 for ; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id NAA16960; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 13:49:32 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 13:49:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: Assebet JTAG In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: awiggins@cse.unsw.edu.au Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl, pleb@cse.unsw.edu.au, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, jason.chagas@intel.com Message-id: <200004051149.NAA16960@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 15:23:28 +1000 (EST), Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > Ok can someone explain something to me. I just got an Assebet > (SA-1110 evaluation board) and it has a PC parallel port to SA-1100 JTAG. > The board doesn't appear to do any voltage translation for the JTAG_CLK > and JTAG_TMS signals. Are they using 5volts from the PC for these signals > (which is out of the chips max 3.6volt signal spec AFAIK) or am I missing > something here? > Anyone with a assebet tried using the parallel port JTAGing? Depends on the parallel port specs. If it uses the classic TTL scheme with a pull-up resistor, the maximum level is indeed not 5V. In that way it is a relatively safe hack (though still a hack) to connect it directly to the SA-1110 JTAG port, though it depends a bit on the overvoltage protection circuit in the SA-1110 JTAG port. It is also possible that there are some line drivers in the connection cable and that it is completely safe to connect the SA-1110 to the parallel port (sorry, we didn't got an Assabet, so I can't really help you on that ;-). Erik -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. Free hardware design files. http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Apr 5 14:37:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA17238; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:37:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA28272 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:37:04 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSJ00IREN1QB1@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:37:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id FAA11701; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 05:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00692; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 05:31:46 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA26070; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 05:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA26105; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 05:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20686; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 05:31:26 -0700 Received: from gate2.itt.com (gate2.itt.com [151.190.254.105]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id FAA16748 for ; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 05:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwemail2.itt.com by gate2.itt.com via smtpd (for mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) with SMTP; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 12:31:25 +0000 (UT) Received: by fwemail2.de.ittind.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <2A5T09A5>; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 07:31:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 07:30:06 -0500 From: "Latham, Steve" Subject: RE: Assebet JTAG Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Erik Mouw'" , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk I use it to reburn flash using the software provided at the intel site Steve -----Original Message----- From: Erik Mouw [mailto:J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 7:50 AM To: awiggins@cse.unsw.edu.au Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl; pleb@cse.unsw.edu.au; sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; jason.chagas@intel.com Subject: Re: Assebet JTAG On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 15:23:28 +1000 (EST), Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > Ok can someone explain something to me. I just got an Assebet > (SA-1110 evaluation board) and it has a PC parallel port to SA-1100 JTAG. > The board doesn't appear to do any voltage translation for the JTAG_CLK > and JTAG_TMS signals. Are they using 5volts from the PC for these signals > (which is out of the chips max 3.6volt signal spec AFAIK) or am I missing > something here? > Anyone with a assebet tried using the parallel port JTAGing? Depends on the parallel port specs. If it uses the classic TTL scheme with a pull-up resistor, the maximum level is indeed not 5V. In that way it is a relatively safe hack (though still a hack) to connect it directly to the SA-1110 JTAG port, though it depends a bit on the overvoltage protection circuit in the SA-1110 JTAG port. It is also possible that there are some line drivers in the connection cable and that it is completely safe to connect the SA-1110 to the parallel port (sorry, we didn't got an Assabet, so I can't really help you on that ;-). Erik -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. Free hardware design files. http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Apr 5 16:36:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA17796; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:36:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA02680 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:36:06 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSJ00588SK4BZ@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:36:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA26741; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 07:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19186; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 07:30:07 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA26151; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 07:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA26149; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 07:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19018; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 07:29:36 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA27967 for ; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 07:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 10:27:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Loading linux kernel on the SA1100. In-reply-to: <20000404230524.7632.qmail@nwcst316.netaddress.usa.net> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Kumar Ramanathan Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On 4 Apr 2000, Kumar Ramanathan wrote: > Hi , > I have a Network Processor board with a Strong ARM (SA1100) on it. > I need to load linux onto the board. You have two options: 1- use angel on the flash and angelboot on a Linux host. 2- use BLOB Two versions of angelboot can be found from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. For BLOB, look at http://www.lart.tudelft.nl. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 05:04:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA20414; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 05:04:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA25516 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 05:04:06 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSK00A59R6T67@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 05:04:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA17542; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 19:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17060; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 19:58:02 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA26395; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 19:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA26404; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 19:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26517; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 19:53:04 -0700 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA16379 for ; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 19:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:45:32 +1000 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:45:26 +1000 (EST) From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Subject: Re: Assebet JTAG In-reply-to: <200004051149.NAA16960@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU To: Erik Mouw Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl, pleb@cse.unsw.edu.au, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, jason.chagas@intel.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk It seems they are using 100ohm resistors in series with the signals going into the assebet. This was hidden in the parallel port plug of the cable. Cheers Adma On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > > Depends on the parallel port specs. If it uses the classic TTL scheme with > a pull-up resistor, the maximum level is indeed not 5V. In that way it is > a relatively safe hack (though still a hack) to connect it directly to the > SA-1110 JTAG port, though it depends a bit on the overvoltage protection > circuit in the SA-1110 JTAG port. It is also possible that there are some > line drivers in the connection cable and that it is completely safe to > connect the SA-1110 to the parallel port (sorry, we didn't got an > Assabet, so I can't really help you on that ;-). > > > Erik > > -- > LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. Free hardware design files. > http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ > > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 05:30:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA20484; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 05:30:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA26380 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 05:30:06 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSK009MJSE4M1@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 05:30:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA20806; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28346; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:24:58 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA26403; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA26436; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01916; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:23:37 -0700 Received: from sam.comms.unsw.EDU.AU (sam.comms.unsw.EDU.AU [149.171.96.20]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id UAA18500 for ; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha400.ee.unsw.edu.au (alpha400.ee.unsw.EDU.AU [149.171.36.48]) by sam.comms.unsw.EDU.AU (8.8.8/8.8.8 Kenso-Central-NO-SPAM) with ESMTP id NAA26981; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:20:22 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (u2189659@localhost) by alpha400.ee.unsw.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA12703; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:20:53 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:20:53 +1000 (EST) From: Ken Chiu Kun Wu Subject: missing memory config. in glibc-2.1.2 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Hi , Has anyone had problem like this when compiling glibc-2.1.2 for their toolchain? so far I've got gcc-2.95.2, binutils-2.9.5.0.22 and kernel header files from linux-2.2.13 ----- make[1]: Entering directory `/home/kckwu/build/glibc-2.1.2/misc' arm-linux-gcc ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/ioperm.c -c -O -Wall -Winline -Wstr ict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -g -I../include -I. -I.. -I../libio -I../s ysdeps/arm/elf -I../crypt/sysdeps/unix -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/pthread -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv -I../linu xthreads/sysdeps/unix -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/arm -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux /arm -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux -I../sysdeps/gnu -I../sysdeps/unix/common -I.. /sysdeps/unix/mman -I../sysdeps/unix/inet -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv -I../sysdeps/un ix/arm -I../sysdeps/unix -I../sysdeps/posix -I../sysdeps/arm/fpu -I../sysdeps/ar m -I../sysdeps/wordsize-32 -I../sysdeps/ieee754 -I../sysdeps/libm-ieee754 -I../s ysdeps/generic/elf -I../sysdeps/generic -D_LIBC_REENTRANT -include ../include/ libc-symbols.h -o ioperm.o In file included from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/2.95.2/../../../../arm-linux/include/asm/page.h:4, from ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/ioperm.c:41: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/2.95.2/../../../../arm-linux/include/asm/arch/memory. h:73: #error missing memory configuration make[1]: *** [ioperm.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kckwu/build/glibc-2.1.2/misc' make: *** [misc/subdir_lib] Error 2 ------ cheers Ken ----------------------------------------------- Ken Wu (Electrical/Biomedical Eng. UNSW Sydney) E-Mail: kenwu@ieee.org kenchiu.wu@au.unisys.com Homepage: www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/~kckwu Mobile: 0410 668 349 ICQ number: 1074203 ----------------------------------------------- From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 06:00:28 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA20555; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 06:00:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA27316 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 06:00:27 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSK00A48TSPZG@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 06:00:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA25259; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02805; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:55:20 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA26432; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA26421; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07993; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:55:01 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id UAA26598 for ; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA18064 for ; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 23:55:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 23:55:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.3.99-pre3-rmk1-np2 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs ... is available from ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. This includes: - SA1110 CPU support - timer accuracy protection for time_of_day sampled from interrupt handlers - debugging printk's removed from ramdisk code (nobody complained... strange) *** WARNING *** THIS PATCH IS BROKEN *** And so were my latest patches, but I don't know since when. It seems that the discontigous memory support for SA1100 is broken. This means that, for instance, only the *first* physical RAM bank can be used. So, if you want to use this patch on your hardware, you must edit linux/arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c and comment out all RAM definitions except the first one. If you have only one RAM bank, go in peace and forget about all this -- you are OK. If your first RAM bank is too small (this is the case for Brutus), I suggest you stick to 2.3.35-rmk1-np9 for now. If you don't comment out extra ram definitions, the boot sequence will just freeze after the "Uncompressing .... done." message. If you really want to make this kernel boot with more than one RAM bank (and... help me find the bobo), just uncomment line 59 of linux/arch/arm/config.in and restart everything from 'make config'. The kernel will crash as soon as /sbin/init is started. Good luck! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 06:05:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA20568; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 06:05:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA27454 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 06:05:11 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSK00AMSU0M89@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 06:05:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id VAA27188; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11236; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:00:03 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA26464; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA26414; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06618; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:59:45 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id UAA24564 for ; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA18084; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 23:59:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 23:59:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: missing memory config. in glibc-2.1.2 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Ken Chiu Kun Wu Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Ken Chiu Kun Wu wrote: > Hi , > Has anyone had problem like this when compiling > glibc-2.1.2 for their toolchain? > so far I've got gcc-2.95.2, binutils-2.9.5.0.22 > and kernel header files from linux-2.2.13 [...] Run 'make config' and 'make dep' in your kernel source tree before using its header files. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 20:12:31 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA24835; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:12:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA25103 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:12:29 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSL00ELUX8SY0@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:12:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA10056; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11767; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:06:31 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA26691; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA26700; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23514; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:03:56 -0700 Received: from crlwebmail.crl.dec.com (crlwebmail.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.2]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id OAA08251 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crlwebmail.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:07:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:04:23 -0400 From: George France Subject: param's passed from the boot loader Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk CONFIG_ARCH_SA1100 = MACH_TYPE_SA1100 oops, --George George France, france@crl.dec.com Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation One Kendall Square, Building 700 MS: CRL Cambridge, MA 02139 USA From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 20:17:25 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA24854; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:17:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA25168 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:17:23 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSL00F3MXGYZF@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:17:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA04747; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21339; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:12:18 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA26649; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA26671; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12077; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:12:07 -0700 Received: from ims.crl.dec.com (ims.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.11]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id OAA08355 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ims.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:16:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:12:29 -0400 From: George France Subject: FW: param's passed from the boot loader Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: George France > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:02 PM > To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > Subject: param's passed from the boot loader > > In the arch/arm/kernel/arch.c file is the 'machine_desc' structure for > MACH_TYPE_SA1100. The third field is marked NO_PARAMS, which means no > parameters are received from the boot loader. The Itsy and Bitsy boot > loaders are capable of passing parameters to the kernel. We would like to > change the NO_PARAMS definition to some memory address, so that we may > pass parameters to the kernel and eliminate the Itsy and Bitsy code from > the fixup_sa1100 procedure. > > We would like to use address 0x00000100, the same as the Compaq Personal > Server. > > Does anyone object to this or have a different address they would like to > use? > > Best Regards, > > > > --George > > George France, france@crl.dec.com > Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation > One Kendall Square, Building 700 MS: CRL > Cambridge, MA 02139 USA > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 21:16:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA25090; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:16:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA26439 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:16:26 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM00HJG07CK3@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:16:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA10167; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22228; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:11:15 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA26772; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA26749; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02484; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:10:49 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA15138 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:07:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: FW: param's passed from the boot loader In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: George France Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, George France wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: George France > > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:02 PM > > To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > > Subject: param's passed from the boot loader > > > > In the arch/arm/kernel/arch.c file is the 'machine_desc' structure for > > MACH_TYPE_SA1100. The third field is marked NO_PARAMS, which means no > > parameters are received from the boot loader. The Itsy and Bitsy boot > > loaders are capable of passing parameters to the kernel. We would like to > > change the NO_PARAMS definition to some memory address, so that we may > > pass parameters to the kernel and eliminate the Itsy and Bitsy code from > > the fixup_sa1100 procedure. I think it might be time to separate the architecture concept from machine types, indeed. Like the Netwinder, EBSA285, Cats, etc. share a common architecture named Footbridge, I suggest we have the SA1100 architecture, but different machine_type for each SA11x0 implementation. This way each SA11x0 out there could have its own fixup function, param_struct offset (if they care to support it), etc. Even using the machine_is_xyz macros, we could configure a kernel which binary could be run on multiple SA11x0 with no problem. This means, however, that every developers will need to register a probably misnamed "architecture number" with Russell. In the mean time, bogus numbers could be used, but an offucial number would be required before being merged into upstream patches. Any comments? Somebody already done that? Otherwise I'll do it. > > We would like to use address 0x00000100, the same as the Compaq Personal > > Server. On the SA1100, there is no RAM at that location. You better choose another address. ;-) Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 21:41:10 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA25172; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:41:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA26990 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:41:09 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM00J5Q1CJ42@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:41:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA15690; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11903; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:35:56 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA26786; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA26747; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06281; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:35:35 -0700 Received: from ims.crl.dec.com (ims.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.11]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id PAA12637; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ims.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:39:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:35:51 -0400 From: George France Subject: RE: FW: param's passed from the boot loader Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Nicolas Pitre'" , George France Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk >I think it might be time to separate the architecture concept from machine >types, indeed. Like the Netwinder, EBSA285, Cats, etc. share a common >architecture named Footbridge, I suggest we have the SA1100 architecture, >but different machine_type for each SA11x0 implementation. This way each >SA11x0 out there could have its own fixup function, param_struct offset >(if they care to support it), etc. Even using the machine_is_xyz macros, >we could configure a kernel which binary could be run on multiple SA11x0 >with no problem. >This means, however, that every developers will need to register a >probably misnamed "architecture number" with Russell. In the mean time, >bogus numbers could be used, but an offucial number would be required >before being merged into upstream patches. >Any comments? >Somebody already done that? Otherwise I'll do it. Just in case this was necessary the Bitsy has its own architecture number. :-) If passing params from the boot loader to the kernel will break other SA-1100 architectures then I think it is time to separate. For those that have not looked at the param struct it is in include/asm-arm/setup.h. So the interesting question is, if we use the parameter passing, will the defaults used break other architectures? > > We would like to use address 0x00000100, the same as the Compaq Personal > > Server. >On the SA1100, there is no RAM at that location. You better choose >another address. ;-) I am glad, that someone is paying attention. I will go get some more coffee. How about: 0xc0000100 O.K :-) --George Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 21:47:23 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA25213; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:47:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA27140 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:47:22 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM00JBB1MX0M@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:47:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA14305; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14976; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:42:17 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA26774; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA26757; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00809; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:42:06 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA07412 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.115.44] (jdbakker.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.115.44]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA16837 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 21:41:53 +0200 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 21:41:24 +0200 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Read buffer and FFT Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk Hi all, Has anyone used the SA-1100 read buffer from userspace yet ? I'm writing an FFT library, and the read buffer could really help me suck in the twiddle factors. JDB [who would of course also be interested in SA-tuned FFTs that may be out there] -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. Free hardware design files. http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 22:12:32 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA25303; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:12:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA27702 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:12:31 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM00KN42SU0H@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:12:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA19224; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23510; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:07:22 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA26792; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA26825; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16768; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:06:57 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA13472 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:05:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: RE: FW: param's passed from the boot loader In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: George France Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, George France wrote: > >I think it might be time to separate the architecture concept from machine > >types, indeed. Like the Netwinder, EBSA285, Cats, etc. share a common > >architecture named Footbridge, I suggest we have the SA1100 architecture, > >but different machine_type for each SA11x0 implementation. This way each > >SA11x0 out there could have its own fixup function, param_struct offset > >(if they care to support it), etc. Even using the machine_is_xyz macros, > >we could configure a kernel which binary could be run on multiple SA11x0 > >with no problem. > > >This means, however, that every developers will need to register a > >probably misnamed "architecture number" with Russell. In the mean time, > >bogus numbers could be used, but an offucial number would be required > >before being merged into upstream patches. > > >Any comments? > >Somebody already done that? Otherwise I'll do it. > > If passing params from the boot loader to the kernel will break other > SA-1100 architectures then I think it is time to separate. It is because ATM nobody care about the param structure. I hacked a kernel cmdline passing for Victor in the past and it's probably still there, but it wasn't through the param struct. Another nice side effect is that all different machines would have their own name instead of "SA1100-based" with uname. > For those that have not looked at the param struct it is in > include/asm-arm/setup.h. So the interesting question is, if we use the > parameter passing, will the defaults used break other architectures? Currently, yes. For instance you could conditionnally assign a forced value to the param pointer until we make appropriate changes. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 22:34:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA25357; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:34:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA28097 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:34:11 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM00KGP3SYJL@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:34:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA12889; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12537; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:28:55 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA26797; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA26834; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22800; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:28:30 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA18193 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:17:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Read buffer and FFT In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "J.D. Bakker" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, J.D. Bakker wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone used the SA-1100 read buffer from userspace yet ? I'm writing an > FFT library, and the read buffer could really help me suck in the twiddle > factors. Watch out task switches. Also you might not be able to use it if not in SVC mode, which would require a system call to be used from user space thus with no overall gain. Apparently the SA1110 read buffer is buggy with signed shorts and bytes. Let's hope you won't need those by the time your SA1100 stock disappears. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 22:35:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA25362; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:35:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA28126 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:35:06 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM00KH13UHRS@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:35:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA19977; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07090; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:30:01 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA26833; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA26822; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26480; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:29:54 -0700 Received: from msexch01.diebold.com (eliot.diebold.com [204.151.249.21]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA16100 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by msexch01.diebold.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <2M6SH291>; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:29:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:28:33 -0400 From: "Plentovich, Dave" Subject: linux threads Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "Sa1100-Linux Group (E-mail)" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Can anyone tell me the story about linux threads and SA1100/1110? Do the pthread functions work or must all cross compiled programs use processes? Best regards, David Plentovich Diebold, Incorporated ATM Development & Engineering, Dept. 9-53-3 5995 Mayfair Road, North Canton, OH 44720, USA voice 330.490.5092, fax 330.490.4508 plentod@diebold.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 22:48:32 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA25393; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:48:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA28369 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:48:30 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM00KHE4GTOC@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:48:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA14907; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01905; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:43:25 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA26840; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA26793; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17448; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:43:17 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA16818 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.115.44] (jdbakker.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.115.44]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA16953; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 22:43:13 +0200 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 22:42:51 +0200 From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: Read buffer and FFT In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk References: At 22:17 +0200 06-04-2000, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, J.D. Bakker wrote: >> Has anyone used the SA-1100 read buffer from userspace yet ? I'm writing an >> FFT library, and the read buffer could really help me suck in the twiddle >> factors. > >Watch out task switches. Oh, it's just an optimization, so it's no problem if it occasionally doesn't work. OTOH, do you know whether the read buffers are invalidated across task switches ? > Also you might not be able to use it if not in >SVC mode, which would require a system call to be used from user space >thus with no overall gain. The SA-1100 allows the enabling of read buffer allocates from userspace. If the kernel doesn't do this yet, would you accept a patch that does ? >Apparently the SA1110 read buffer is buggy with signed shorts and bytes. >Let's hope you won't need those by the time your SA1100 stock disappears. The '1100 has the same bug, IIRC. No problem for me; I'll just store the coefficients in words (which is OK as the FFT is compute bound). JDB. -- If you think the problem is bad now, just wait until we've solved it. -- Arthur Kasspe From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 22:51:22 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA25413; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:51:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA28443 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:51:21 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM00KVW4LKRS@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:51:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA19467; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21609; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:46:16 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA26879; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA26830; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02359; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:46:09 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA16121 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:44:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: linux threads In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "Plentovich, Dave" Cc: "Sa1100-Linux Group (E-mail)" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Plentovich, Dave wrote: > Can anyone tell me the story about linux threads and SA1100/1110? Do the pthread functions work or must all cross compiled programs use processes? Threads work perfectly, just as on a standard PC. And because threads share the same pagetable, you save on context switches where the cache doesn't have to be flushed. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 23:15:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA25494; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:15:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA28919 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:15:58 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM00MFO5QK6B@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:15:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA19933; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19400; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:10:52 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA26901; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA26912; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16101; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:10:42 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA20244 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:59:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Read buffer and FFT In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "J.D. Bakker" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, J.D. Bakker wrote: > At 22:17 +0200 06-04-2000, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > >On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, J.D. Bakker wrote: > >> Has anyone used the SA-1100 read buffer from userspace yet ? I'm writing an > >> FFT library, and the read buffer could really help me suck in the twiddle > >> factors. > > > >Watch out task switches. > > Oh, it's just an optimization, so it's no problem if it occasionally > doesn't work. OTOH, do you know whether the read buffers are invalidated > across task switches ? That's the problem. I don't think so. But it should be trivial to add. > > Also you might not be able to use it if not in > >SVC mode, which would require a system call to be used from user space > >thus with no overall gain. > > The SA-1100 allows the enabling of read buffer allocates from userspace. Then there is no problem. Otherwise the system call overhead would probably have consumed all gain the read buffer provides. > JDB. > > -- > If you think the problem is bad now, just wait until we've solved it. I really like this one... :-) Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 23:11:24 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA25474; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:11:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA28831 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:11:24 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM00MAW5IZ6B@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:11:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA21527; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01689; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:06:12 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA26867; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA26878; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09592; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:05:52 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA24039 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA25453; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:04:30 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:04:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: RE: FW: param's passed from the boot loader In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: france@crl.dec.com Cc: nico@CAM.ORG, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200004062104.XAA25453@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:35:51 -0400, George France wrote: > Nicolas Pitre wrote: >> George France wrote: >> > We would like to use address 0x00000100, the same as the Compaq Personal >> > Server. > >>On the SA1100, there is no RAM at that location. You better choose >>another address. ;-) > > I am glad, that someone is paying attention. I will go get some more coffee. It didn't look too strange to me. You can put the params structure in ROM, AFAIK the kernel only reads the structure. Erik -- "I'm just this guy you know?" -- Zaphod Beeblebrox in "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 23:30:09 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA25561; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:30:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA29241 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:30:09 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM00M8W6E84F@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:30:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA20928; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29603; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:24:56 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA26870; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA26910; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05539; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:24:46 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA14023 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 17:16:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: RE: FW: param's passed from the boot loader In-reply-to: <200004062104.XAA25453@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: france@crl.dec.com, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > It didn't look too strange to me. You can put the params structure in ROM, > AFAIK the kernel only reads the structure. But you still have to modify it from the bootloader if you want to pass the kernel a command line string... or have the bootloader detect available RAM and tell the kernel. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 23:36:43 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA25595; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:36:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA29430 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:36:43 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM0002Y6P6HT@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:36:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA21613; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09903; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:31:33 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA26921; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA26837; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13885; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:31:20 -0700 Received: from crlwebmail.crl.dec.com (crlwebmail.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.2]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id RAA16994; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 17:27:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crlwebmail.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 17:31:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 17:28:01 -0400 From: Jamey Hicks Subject: RE: FW: param's passed from the boot loader Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Nicolas Pitre'" , Erik Mouw Cc: George France , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Our various bootloaders detect the amount of flash and dram and use the params structure to inform the kernel of the actual memory configuration. -Jamey -----Original Message----- From: Nicolas Pitre [mailto:nico@CAM.ORG] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 5:17 PM To: Erik Mouw Cc: france@crl.dec.com; sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: RE: FW: param's passed from the boot loader On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: > It didn't look too strange to me. You can put the params structure in ROM, > AFAIK the kernel only reads the structure. But you still have to modify it from the bootloader if you want to pass the kernel a command line string... or have the bootloader detect available RAM and tell the kernel. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 6 23:41:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA25612; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:41:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA29533 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:41:08 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM000AD6WJDC@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:41:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA23134; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02331; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:36:03 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA26927; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA26918; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05763; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:35:55 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA26356 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA25584; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:34:35 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:34:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: RE: FW: param's passed from the boot loader In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: france@crl.dec.com, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200004062134.XAA25584@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 17:16:31 -0400 (EDT), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: >> It didn't look too strange to me. You can put the params structure in ROM, >> AFAIK the kernel only reads the structure. > > But you still have to modify it from the bootloader if you want to pass > the kernel a command line string... or have the bootloader detect > available RAM and tell the kernel. .. unless you have Flash memory with boot parameter blocks ;-) Erik -- There was a point to this story, but it has temporarily escaped the croniclers mind. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Apr 7 00:09:05 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA25733; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:09:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA00166 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:09:05 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM0017J874IF@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:09:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA24939; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14808; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:03:47 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA26936; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA26913; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32533; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:03:29 -0700 Received: from ims.crl.dec.com (ims.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.11]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id SAA13715 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 18:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ims.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 18:07:22 -0400 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 18:03:50 -0400 From: George France Subject: serial port minor numbers Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk While updating the Compaq Personal Server to 2.3.99-pre3-rmk2, I found that Russell changed the minor number of the serial port ttyS0 from 64 to 255 for ttyS191. This is because in theory you could have a generic serial port with the SA-110 which would utilize minor number 64. Should we change the serial_sa1100.c driver to match the serial_21285 driver? It would allow the same ramdisk to be used across the SA-110 and SA-11x0 platforms. --George George France, france@crl.dec.com Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation One Kendall Square, Building 700 MS: CRL Cambridge, MA 02139 USA From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Apr 7 01:49:48 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id BAA25997; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:49:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA01901 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:49:48 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSM0040KCUY67@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:49:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id QAA12666; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29752; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:44:18 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA26968; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA26970; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24619; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:43:26 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id QAA28231 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA21510; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 19:43:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 19:43:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: serial port minor numbers In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: George France Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, George France wrote: > While updating the Compaq Personal Server to 2.3.99-pre3-rmk2, I found that > Russell changed the minor number of the serial port ttyS0 from 64 to 255 > for ttyS191. This is because in theory you could have a generic serial port > with the SA-110 which would utilize minor number 64. Should we change the > serial_sa1100.c driver to match the serial_21285 driver? It would allow the > same ramdisk to be used across the SA-110 and SA-11x0 platforms. You can't use 255 for your first serial port since the SA11x0 may have two or three of them. Personally I don't think Russell made a good choice. The best solution would be to use the first tty slot available. If the standard serial driver detects some ports, the 21285 port would simply be at the end of the sequence, otherwise it get the first place. IMHO It's not a good idea to perpetuate a design flaw for uniformity's sake. The right solution is to improve serial_21285.c. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Apr 7 16:31:05 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA00497; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:31:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA19312 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:31:01 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSN00G46HNM8K@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:30:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA06538; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13684; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:25:01 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA27261; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA27281; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23609; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:23:05 -0700 Received: from crlwebmail.crl.dec.com (crlwebmail.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.2]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id KAA00472; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:23:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crlwebmail.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:27:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:23:29 -0400 From: George France Subject: RE: serial port minor numbers Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Nicolas Pitre'" , George France Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk I agree with you should we forward this to Russell? --George -----Original Message----- From: Nicolas Pitre [mailto:nico@CAM.ORG] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 7:43 PM To: George France Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: serial port minor numbers On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, George France wrote: > While updating the Compaq Personal Server to 2.3.99-pre3-rmk2, I found that > Russell changed the minor number of the serial port ttyS0 from 64 to 255 > for ttyS191. This is because in theory you could have a generic serial port > with the SA-110 which would utilize minor number 64. Should we change the > serial_sa1100.c driver to match the serial_21285 driver? It would allow the > same ramdisk to be used across the SA-110 and SA-11x0 platforms. You can't use 255 for your first serial port since the SA11x0 may have two or three of them. Personally I don't think Russell made a good choice. The best solution would be to use the first tty slot available. If the standard serial driver detects some ports, the 21285 port would simply be at the end of the sequence, otherwise it get the first place. IMHO It's not a good idea to perpetuate a design flaw for uniformity's sake. The right solution is to improve serial_21285.c. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Apr 7 16:40:31 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA00552; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:40:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA19597 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:40:31 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSN00JJQI3EG0@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:40:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA07707; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19491; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:35:17 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA27242; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA27286; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05620; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:35:03 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA13092 for ; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:32:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: RE: serial port minor numbers In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: George France Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, George France wrote: > I agree with you should we forward this to Russell? Probably. Or a patch might be even better. > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicolas Pitre [mailto:nico@CAM.ORG] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 7:43 PM > To: George France > Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > Subject: Re: serial port minor numbers > > > > > On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, George France wrote: > > > While updating the Compaq Personal Server to 2.3.99-pre3-rmk2, I found > that > > Russell changed the minor number of the serial port ttyS0 from 64 to 255 > > for ttyS191. This is because in theory you could have a generic serial > port > > with the SA-110 which would utilize minor number 64. Should we change the > > serial_sa1100.c driver to match the serial_21285 driver? It would allow > the > > same ramdisk to be used across the SA-110 and SA-11x0 platforms. > > You can't use 255 for your first serial port since the SA11x0 may have two > or three of them. > > Personally I don't think Russell made a good choice. The best solution > would be to use the first tty slot available. If the standard serial > driver detects some ports, the 21285 port would simply be at the end of > the sequence, otherwise it get the first place. > > IMHO It's not a good idea to perpetuate a design flaw for uniformity's > sake. The right solution is to improve serial_21285.c. > > > Nicolas > From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Apr 7 16:50:03 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA00611; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:50:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA19950 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:50:03 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSN00KHUIJ90D@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:49:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA07281; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06461; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:44:44 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA27295; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA27296; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10889; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:44:35 -0700 Received: from crlwebmail.crl.dec.com (crlwebmail.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.2]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id KAA32261; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:40:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crlwebmail.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:44:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:41:11 -0400 From: George France Subject: RE: FW: param's passed from the boot loader Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Erik Mouw'" , nico@CAM.ORG Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk What we have decide to do is to send Nico a patch using parameters, it breaks other arch's then we will send him the patch which separates the architecture concept from machine types, using different arch. numbers. We have tried it both ways and 'parameter passing' works both ways. --George George France, france@crl.dec.com Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation One Kendall Square, Building 700 MS: CRL Cambridge, MA 02139 USA From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Apr 10 06:51:44 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA08856; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 06:51:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA02394 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 06:51:43 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSS00DDBAU0MR@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 06:51:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id VAA10141; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 21:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20492; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 21:43:19 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA07660; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 21:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA07657; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 21:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08951; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 21:36:39 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id VAA06452 for ; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 21:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00741 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:36:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:36:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.3.99-pre3-rmk1-np3.gz Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs ... available from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. This contains: - architecture/machine distinction not fully complete yet i.e. it still not possible to run the same kernel binary on two different machines, but it's not far from it - serial port driver cleanup mostly because of the above, removed some old cruft from serial.c. - frame bufer driver cleanup idem - some pieces for Bitsy support - a clever modification to have a working debugging serial port for both before and after MMU is enabled I know it's trivial, but I simply didn't think of it myself... :-) Thanks to George France / James Hicks I might have broken something that worked before. Tell me if so. I know this is not current with Russell's patch, but that's my next step. Now for all of you hardware folks: Please register for an architecture number with Russell. See "Kernel entry (head-armv.S)" in linux/Documentation/arm/README for details. I need your registered number ASAP. If you have one, please tell me what it is. Also consider implementing this number in bootloaders. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Apr 10 08:23:16 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id IAA09052; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:23:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA03539 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:23:15 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSS00EEUF28ND@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:22:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id XAA14100; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 23:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04120; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 23:15:01 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA07703; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 23:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA07680; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 23:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12382; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 23:11:53 -0700 Received: from lakdiva.slt.lk (lakdiva.slt.lk [204.143.96.17]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id XAA11391 for ; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 23:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obelix.atpos.lk ([203.115.31.220]) by lakdiva.slt.lk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03862; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:07:27 -0600 (GMT) Received: from sri.atpos.com (192.1.1.105 [192.1.1.105]) by obelix.atpos.lk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 2FYSS5QC; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:01:38 +0600 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:05:06 +0600 From: Nandana Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre3-rmk1-np3.gz Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: <38F16F12.230CAC08@sri.atpos.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: How about pcmcia support Nandana Nicolas Pitre wrote: > ... available from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. > > This contains: > > - architecture/machine distinction > not fully complete yet i.e. it still not possible to run the same > kernel binary on two different machines, but it's not far from it > - serial port driver cleanup > mostly because of the above, removed some old cruft from > serial.c. > - frame bufer driver cleanup > idem > - some pieces for Bitsy support > - a clever modification to have a working debugging serial port for both > before and after MMU is enabled > I know it's trivial, but I simply didn't think of it myself... :-) > Thanks to George France / James Hicks > > I might have broken something that worked before. Tell me if so. > I know this is not current with Russell's patch, but that's my next step. > > Now for all of you hardware folks: Please register for an architecture > number with Russell. See "Kernel entry (head-armv.S)" in > linux/Documentation/arm/README for details. I need your registered number > ASAP. If you have one, please tell me what it is. Also consider > implementing this number in bootloaders. > > Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Apr 11 03:45:31 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id DAA14352; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:45:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA07073 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:45:31 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FST00LC2WVS02@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:45:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id SAA12651; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03364; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:35:01 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA08078; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA08108; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11831; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:29:35 -0700 Received: from cambridge.merl.com (cambridge.merl.com [137.203.190.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id SAA02672 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merl.com (eagle.merl.com [137.203.128.4]) by cambridge.merl.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA31814 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:29:33 -0400 Received: from bester.merl.com (root@bester.merl.com [137.203.128.22]) by merl.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA20349 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:29:33 -0400 Received: from bester (IDENT:leigh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bester.merl.com (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA22984 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:29:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:29:32 -0400 From: Darren Leigh Subject: Looking for intro to Linux on SA-1110 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200004110129.VAA22984@bester.merl.com> Precedence: bulk Hi, I just joined the list. I have two of the Intel SA-1110/SA-1111 dev kits that I am trying to get Linux running on. I've been working on getting a toolchain up and running, but have been stymied trying to find the correct patches, etc. to apply to all of the packages. I'd like to find out what is available and what other people have done so I don't have to reinvent the wheel. I've looked over the Linux ARM sites that I could find, but info specific to the SA-1110 seems to be scarce and the SA-1100 info I found was a little dated. Sorry if this is a FAQ, but the only archives of this list that majordomo could tell me about are from 1998. Thanks! Darren Darren Leigh | MERL - A Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratory Research Scientist | /\ 201 Broadway, 8th floor Voice: 617-621-7579 | _\/_ Cambridge, MA 02139 Fax: 617-621-7550 | /_/\_\ http://www.merl.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Apr 11 12:12:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id MAA16814; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:12:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA19766 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:12:12 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSU00HLVKCB67@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:12:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id DAA23163; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15192; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:05:50 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA08248; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA08257; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00981; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:02:43 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id DAA05217 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id MAA16710; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:01:24 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:01:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: Looking for intro to Linux on SA-1110 In-reply-to: <200004110129.VAA22984@bester.merl.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: leigh@merl.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200004111001.MAA16710@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:29:32 -0400, Darren Leigh wrote: > Hi, I just joined the list. I have two of the Intel SA-1110/SA-1111 dev > kits that I am trying to get Linux running on. I've been working on > getting a toolchain up and running, but have been stymied trying to find > the correct patches, etc. to apply to all of the packages. I'd like to > find out what is available and what other people have done so I don't > have to reinvent the wheel. I've looked over the Linux ARM sites that I > could find, but info specific to the SA-1110 seems to be scarce and the > SA-1100 info I found was a little dated. There are several precompiled toolchains available, but if you want to build one yourself, there is a list with all necessary parts available at http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/lartware/compile-tools/ On this page is also a link to Chris Rutter's toolchain HOWTO. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Apr 11 22:34:51 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA20502; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:34:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA09950 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:34:49 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSV007LJD604X@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:34:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA07134; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12618; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:29:06 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA08450; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA08440; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07084; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:28:07 -0700 Received: from blazieresearch.com ([216.85.232.66]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA00798 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by blazieresearch.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA05152 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:27:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:27:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Blazie Subject: kernel build tool problem In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm trying to build a 2.3.99-pre3 kernel, and have run into various tool problems on my netwinder. Upgrading binutils to 2.9.5x helped, but now I'm really stuck, as follows: /usr/bin/ld -p -X -T arch/arm/vmlinux.lds arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.o arch/arm/kernel/init_task.o init/main.o init/version.o \ --start-group \ arch/arm/kernel/kernel.o arch/arm/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o mm/mm.o fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o \ drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.o drivers/misc/misc.o drivers/net/net.o drivers/parport/parport.a arch/arm/special/special.a drivers/acorn/block/acorn-block.a drivers/acorn/char/acorn-char.o drivers/acorn/net/acorn-net.a drivers/acorn/scsi/acorn-scsi.a \ net/network.a \ arch/arm/nwfpe/math-emu.o arch/arm/lib/lib.o arch/arm/lib/lib.a /usr/src/linux/lib/lib.a /usr/lib/gcc-lib/armv4l-unknown-linux-gnu/2.95.2/soft-float/libgcc.a \ --end-group \ -o vmlinux arch/arm/kernel/kernel.o: In function `exec_mmap': /home/chris/linux-2.3.99-pre3/arch/arm/kernel/ecard.c:242: undefined reference to `cpu_CPU_NAME_flush_cache_all' /home/chris/linux-2.3.99-pre3/arch/arm/kernel/ecard.c:242: relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 cpu_CPU_NAME_flush_cache_all /home/chris/linux-2.3.99-pre3/arch/arm/kernel/ecard.c:245: undefined reference to `cpu_CPU_NAME_flush_tlb_all' /home/chris/linux-2.3.99-pre3/arch/arm/kernel/ecard.c:245: relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 cpu_CPU_NAME_flush_tlb_all [snip, continues for every file in list] I fixed the gcc specs file as indicated in Scott B's binutils.txt and verified via "gcc -dumpspecs" that the link spec uses "armelf_linux26" instead of "elf32arm26". What else have I neglected to update? Thanks, Chris From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Apr 11 23:13:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA20612; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:13:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA11016 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:13:34 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSV0092OEYKDN@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:13:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA16516; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26845; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:08:18 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA08482; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA08452; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10873; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:08:05 -0700 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA10265 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 12f7t1-0006NA-00; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:07:51 +0100 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:07:51 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: kernel build tool problem In-reply-to: Message from Chris Blazie "of Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:27:53 EDT." Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Chris Blazie Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: >/home/chris/linux-2.3.99-pre3/arch/arm/kernel/ecard.c:242: undefined >reference to `cpu_CPU_NAME_flush_cache_all' > > I fixed the gcc specs file as indicated in Scott B's binutils.txt >and verified via "gcc -dumpspecs" that the link spec uses "armelf_linux26" >instead of "elf32arm26". What else have I neglected to update? Nothing, I think. Seems you have some kernel configuration problem instead. Are you really trying to build an Acorn kernel? p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Apr 11 23:50:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA20747; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:50:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA11876 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:50:11 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSV00A8KGNL04@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:50:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA06663; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32405; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:45:04 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA08577; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA08569; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23363; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:44:38 -0700 Received: from blazieresearch.com ([216.85.232.66]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA05175 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by blazieresearch.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA06221; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:44:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:44:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Blazie Subject: Re: kernel build tool problem In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip Blundell Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk > >reference to `cpu_CPU_NAME_flush_cache_all' > > > > I fixed the gcc specs file as indicated in Scott B's binutils.txt > >and verified via "gcc -dumpspecs" that the link spec uses "armelf_linux26" > >instead of "elf32arm26". What else have I neglected to update? > > Nothing, I think. Seems you have some kernel configuration problem instead. > Are you really trying to build an Acorn kernel? No, I chose a bad example to send, though. I tried a few off the wall configurations to see how/if the link errors changed before I upgraded the linker. But you may be right, actually; I haven't cleaned up my configuration since fixing the tools. Thanks, Chris From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Apr 12 03:35:40 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id DAA21517; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 03:35:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA17067 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 03:35:39 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSV00EO5R3DXJ@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 03:35:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id SAA15400; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30899; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:29:25 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA09124; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA09131; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30338; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:28:03 -0700 Received: from ganymede.or.intel.com (ganymede.or.intel.com [134.134.248.3]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id SAA07557 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SMTP (orsmsxvs01-1.jf.intel.com [192.168.65.200]) by ganymede.or.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.22 2000/04/06 17:58:51 dmccart Exp $) with SMTP id SAA15456 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orsmsx28.jf.intel.com ([192.168.70.28]) by 192.168.70.200 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:27:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: by orsmsx28.jf.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2NM95HLY>; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:27:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:27:41 -0700 From: "Chagas, Jason" Subject: IDE-UI for ARM-Linux development? Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of an Integrated Development Environment (IDE - something similar to MS-Visual C++) with a friendly UI for developing to ARM-Linux? Perhaps a shell application for the GNU Tools. Is there anything that comes close enough that could be easily adapted? Thanks, Jason From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Apr 12 11:51:57 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA23709; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:51:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA29895 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:51:56 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSW00AIPE2I72@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:51:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id CAA02363; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06140; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:42:21 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA09308; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA09292; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07691; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:39:41 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id CAA19989 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA23601; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:38:21 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:38:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: IDE-UI for ARM-Linux development? In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: jason.chagas@intel.com Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200004120938.LAA23601@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:27:41 -0700, Chagas, Jason wrote: > Does anyone know of an Integrated Development Environment (IDE - something > similar to MS-Visual C++) with a friendly UI for developing to ARM-Linux? > Perhaps a shell application for the GNU Tools. Is there anything that comes > close enough that could be easily adapted? There are a couple of them available, like gIDE, and eh... (oops forgot, please have a look at freshmeat.net), but I don't know if they support cross compiler builds. Cygnus (www.cygnus.com) has some tools available (not freeware) that support cross compilers. And of course there is the Emacs/XEmacs solution which is between a text editor and an IDE. Note that all IDE solutions on Linux are front ends for the GNU tools, simply because it fits into the Unix philosophy: make tools that can do only one thing, but do that single task exceptionaly good. Erik [who likes XEmacs and autoconf+automake best] -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. Free hardware design files. http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Apr 12 11:57:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA23738; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:57:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA00181 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:57:53 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSW00ANFECF1D@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:57:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id CAA18338; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19924; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:50:04 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA09238; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA09306; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29787; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:48:16 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id CAA08312 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA23671; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:46:15 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:46:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: compressed filesystem available? In-reply-to: <20000412054317.21994.qmail@sina.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: daihbxd@sina.com Cc: SA1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200004120946.LAA23671@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Wed Apr 12 13:43:17 CST 2000, daihbxd wrote: > since the Flash Memory and ROM is not that cheap,i believe a compressed > filessystem(like M$ stupid doublespace:)) is useful and feasible,do I need > write a new one from scratch or some other available? No. You normally make a compressed ramdisk and put that into Flash memory. Just before you boot linux you copy the compressed ramdisk from Flash to RAM (at a position known by the kernel), and the kernel will automatically uncompress the ramdisk. There are patches for ext2 that allow you to do per file compression, but those patches are beta, and AFAIK not tested on ARM systems. If you want a real ROM filesystem (i.e. completely read only), you might want to have a look at the Compressed ROM filesystem (cromfs) in the latest 2.3 kernels. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Apr 12 14:44:21 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA24728; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:44:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA06737 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:44:19 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSW001B5M1S3K@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:44:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id FAA15074; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 05:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19850; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 05:38:09 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA09374; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 05:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA09360; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 05:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30740; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 05:36:18 -0700 Received: from msexch01.diebold.com (eliot.diebold.com [204.151.249.21]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id FAA09115 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 05:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by msexch01.diebold.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <2M6SJX2K>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:35:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:34:59 -0400 From: "Plentovich, Dave" Subject: RE: IDE-UI for ARM-Linux development? Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Chagas, Jason'" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Jason, We are using Code Crusader (www.cco.caltech.edu/~jafl/jcc/). By modifying the Make.header file (after the project is created) we can point to the appropriate bins and libs for the xdev environment. Doesn't seem to directly support asm (.S) files; but there are ways around that. Best regards, David Plentovich (plentod@diebold.com) -----Original Message----- From: Chagas, Jason [mailto:jason.chagas@intel.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 9:28 PM To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: IDE-UI for ARM-Linux development? Does anyone know of an Integrated Development Environment (IDE - something similar to MS-Visual C++) with a friendly UI for developing to ARM-Linux? Perhaps a shell application for the GNU Tools. Is there anything that comes close enough that could be easily adapted? Thanks, Jason From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Apr 12 07:50:44 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id HAA22292; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:50:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA21586 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:50:43 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FSW00J6T2WHMH@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:50:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id WAA10738; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rex.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25706; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:43:32 -0700 Received: by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA09203; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by rex.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA09183; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16868; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:42:08 -0700 Received: from sina.com ([202.106.187.163]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id WAA11047 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21995 invoked by uid 99); Wed, 12 Apr 2000 05:43:17 +0000 Date: Wed Apr 12 13:43:17 CST 2000 From: daihbxd Subject: compressed filesystem available? 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Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: SA1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000412054839.64534.qmail@sina.com> X-Mailer: SinaMail 3.0Beta (FireToad) Precedence: bulk since the Flash Memory and ROM is not that cheap,i believe a compressed filessystem(like M$ stupid doublespace:)) is useful and feasible,do I need write a new one from scratch or some other available? regards dai =================================================================== PB@KCb7Q5gWSSJOd http://mail.sina.com.cn From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 20 22:06:15 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA17683; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:06:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA05285 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:06:13 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTB00HM1ZUCQN@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:06:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA22598; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24241; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:56:56 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA19593; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA26021; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03980; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:55:03 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA23170 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:19:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.3.99-pre3-rmk3-np1 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk This is available at ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. It contains minor fixes to the Assabet support (LEDs are working now), plus the default configs for LART. The Assabet screen is still not fixed though. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 20 21:00:42 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA17405; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:00:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA03874 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:00:41 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTB00FPTWT4BA@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:00:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA16383; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21673; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:51:36 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA07228; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA20264; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13732; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:49:55 -0700 Received: from nwcst292.netaddress.usa.net (nwcst292.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.37]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA05404 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6665 invoked by uid 60001); Thu, 20 Apr 2000 18:48:54 +0000 Received: from 204.68.23.37 by nwcst292 for [207.21.138.151] via web-mailer(M3.4.0.33) on Thu Apr 20 18:48:54 GMT 2000 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:48:54 -0600 (MDT) From: Kumar Ramanathan Subject: Evaluation board... Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw , Linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, Devel@netwinder.com, Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <20000420184854.6664.qmail@nwcst292.netaddress.usa.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.4.0.33) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk I have the IXp1200 network processor board and need to run linux on it's strongARM core. = Does the kernel need to be ported for the board ?? ASlso ,the board has only one serial port, so I can dnld the kernel only = from that port.No console output seems possible . Is there a way I can make the kernel image output something to the serial= port so I can view it via the same port I use for downloasd of the kernel imag= e ?? Or is there a way I can write to some memory address so that the leds on = the board can show some output ???? Please advice, it's been a blind download using Angelboot so far. Thanks, Krishna. Erik Mouw wrote: On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 16:59:16 -0600 (MDT), Kumar Ramanathan wrote: > I was directed to your page from the LART site ... looking for RAMdisks= =2E > Can't find any , could you help me ??? Go to http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ . In the left column is a link to "RAM disk". FYI: Nicolas Pitre released a very nice RAM disk a couple of days ago. Ge= t it at ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ramdisk_img.gz . > I have a SA 1100 Evaluation board from Intel. Eh, which evaluation board? Intel made quite a few. Erik -- = J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Departmen= t of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems,= Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherla= nds Phone: +31-15-2785859 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.= nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 20 21:04:14 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA17415; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:03:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA03936 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:03:06 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTB00EMZWX5SZ@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; 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Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <39001408.66C63827@sr.sindo.co.kr> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: ko,en,ja Dear. Hi. I will develope the linux port on the SA1110 CPU. I can't download the source code files in the home page "http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/applnots/sa1100lx/getstart.htm#1001576". Please, check the link or source code files. Thank you. From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Apr 21 11:15:38 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA19620; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:15:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA14836 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:15:37 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTD00A510E08B@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:15:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id CAA31388; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10346; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:10:29 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA14211; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA24829; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16705; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:10:18 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id CAA24446 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA19595; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:08:25 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:08:25 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: arm linux source... In-reply-to: <39001408.66C63827@sr.sindo.co.kr> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: youngjo@ns.sindo.co.kr Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200004210908.LAA19595@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:40:40 +0900, youngjo Song wrote: > I will develope the linux port on the SA1110 CPU. > I can't download the source code files in the home page > "http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/applnots/sa1100lx/getstart.htm#100157 > ". > > Please, check the link or source code files. It's a bit outdated. The LART site contains links to more up-to-date information (I updated it a month ago). Check out http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ . Another great source of information is http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ . Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2783635 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email: J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Apr 21 11:29:45 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA19682; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:29:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA15028 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:29:44 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTD00A7V11IDO@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:29:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id CAA29343; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08460; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:24:37 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA24669; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA23544; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27116; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:24:24 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id CAA30571 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA19655; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:23:02 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:23:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: Evaluation board... In-reply-to: <20000420184854.6664.qmail@nwcst292.netaddress.usa.net> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: kumarrk@usa.net Cc: Linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, Devel@netwinder.com, Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200004210923.LAA19655@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.0 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:48:54 -0600 (MDT), Kumar Ramanathan wrote: > I have the IXp1200 network processor board and need to run linux on it's > strongARM core. > > Does the kernel need to be ported for the board ?? I'm not sure. As far as I know, you should be able to run standard SA1100 linux on it. Intel is also working to get Linux running on it, but they want to use it in big-endian mode, so they need to change quite a lot. Ask David Meng (david.meng@intel.com) about the current status. > ASlso ,the board has only one serial port, so I can dnld the kernel only from > that port.No console output seems possible . Why not? I also using a single serial port to do console and download on a normal SA1100 board. The second serial port isn't neccessary. > Is there a way I can make the kernel image output something to the serial port > so I can view it via the same port I use for downloasd of the kernel image ?? I don't have IXP1200 information available, but if its serial port is not at the same location as the "normal" SA1100, you won't see anything at all. I think you need to do some more low level debugging. If the board has leds, try to blink them in one of the kernel initialization routines. In that way you know if the kernel starts at all. That's how we did it with the LART. > Or is there a way I can write to some memory address so that the leds on the > board can show some output ???? I don't know, you really should download the IXP1200 documentation for that. Debugging low level software without proper hardware documentation is close to impossible. Erik -- Yes, it works sometimes. If you need something that "works sometimes" use Windows! -- Victor Khimenko on linux-kernel From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Apr 21 16:22:02 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA20624; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:22:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA19651 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:22:01 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTD00L6LEKN5J@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:22:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA00473; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 07:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18343; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 07:16:30 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA01769; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 07:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA20200; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 07:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21664; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 07:15:47 -0700 Received: from ice.fiftyone.com (ice.fiftyone.com [208.225.80.11]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA11292 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 07:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server01.asi (akron-80-188.ar51.net [208.225.80.188]) by ice.fiftyone.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA06755 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:15:12 -0400 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:14:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:14:40 -0400 From: Jeff Sutherland Subject: Frame buffer device fixes for Assabet's Sharp TFT display Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BFAB9B.F45AE830" Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFAB9B.F45AE830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I wonder if any of the frame buffer driver maintainers are lurking out there? The Sharp display on the Assabet is not being set up correctly in Linux 2.3.99-pre3: This is an active display, needs 16bpp depth, 320x200 size, and LCD control registers should be set up as follows: reg0: 0x000000B9 reg1: 0x02020130 reg2: 0x000000EF reg3: 0x0000000C These are the hardware settings that work on WindowsCE. Note that in this mode no palette is required: just shove pixel data into the display. I'm trying to hack this on my own but really could use some friendly advice :) Regards, -Jeff ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFAB9B.F45AE830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
I wonder if any of the frame buffer driver maintainers are lurking out there?  The Sharp display on the Assabet is not being set up correctly in Linux 2.3.99-pre3: This is an active display, needs 16bpp depth, 320x200 size, and LCD control registers should be set up as follows:
 
reg0: 0x000000B9
reg1: 0x02020130
reg2: 0x000000EF
reg3: 0x0000000C
 
These are the hardware settings that work on WindowsCE.  Note that in this mode no palette is required: just shove pixel data into the display.  I'm trying to hack this on my own but really could use some friendly advice :)
 
Regards,
-Jeff
 
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01BFAB9B.F45AE830-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Apr 21 17:36:02 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA20884; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:36:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA20978 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:36:00 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTD0002EHZZML@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:36:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA12484; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04718; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:30:45 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA15604; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA14191; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04027; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:30:29 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA18066 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12208; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:29:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:29:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Frame buffer device fixes for Assabet's Sharp TFT display In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Jeff Sutherland Cc: "SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Jeff Sutherland wrote: > I wonder if any of the frame buffer driver maintainers are lurking out > there? The Sharp display on the Assabet is not being set up correctly in > Linux 2.3.99-pre3: This is an active display, needs 16bpp depth, 320x200 > size, and LCD control registers should be set up as follows: The docs mention 320x240. > reg0: 0x000000B9 > reg1: 0x02020130 > reg2: 0x000000EF > reg3: 0x0000000C If those are the same as the settings in Intel's diagnostic code, that's what is currently set in the Linux driver. > These are the hardware settings that work on WindowsCE. Note that in this > mode no palette is required: just shove pixel data into the display. I'm > trying to hack this on my own but really could use some friendly advice :) What is missing currently is 16bpp support. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Apr 21 17:48:45 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA20914; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:48:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA21129 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:48:44 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTD00MOZIL6Y2@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:48:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA10512; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24508; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:43:38 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA14717; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA17170; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21085; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:43:13 -0700 Received: from ice.fiftyone.com (ice.fiftyone.com [208.225.80.11]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA17976 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server01.asi (akron-80-188.ar51.net [208.225.80.188]) by ice.fiftyone.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA11997; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:43:27 -0400 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:42:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:42:52 -0400 From: Jeff Sutherland Subject: RE: Frame buffer device fixes for Assabet's Sharp TFT display Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Nicolas Pitre'" Cc: "'SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk > > size, and LCD control registers should be set up as follows: > > The docs mention 320x240. > It is 320x240- fat fingers this morning... > > reg0: 0x000000B9 > > reg1: 0x02020130 > > reg2: 0x000000EF > > reg3: 0x0000000C > > If those are the same as the settings in Intel's diagnostic > code, that's > what is currently set in the Linux driver. If the frame buffer device fails to initialize (I broke it) then these settings remain. Of course then nothing shows up on the screen. If the frame buffer is allowed to initialize with the settings in sa1100fb.c then reg1 and 2 get loaded with 0x3912F930 and 0x30004EF, which goofs up the scan timing somewhat. The real problem though is the lack of 16bpp support. No response yet from the linux-fbdev list... //Jeff From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Apr 22 08:46:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id IAA23396; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 08:46:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA00709 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 08:46:53 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTE00HJ5O64X3@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 08:46:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id XAA32600; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02527; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:41:18 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA23495; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA20682; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27338; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:39:26 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id XAA02715 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA15913 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:39:14 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:39:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.3.99-pre3-rmk3-np2 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs For Assabet users: The LCD screen kind of work now. 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I set up the memory configurations in mm/mm-sa1100.c and kernel/arch.c. I pass architecture number 0x10 from the bootloader but it never gets out of head-armv.S. I traced the problem to the instruction turning on the MMU: mcr p15, 0, r0, c1, c0 At this point r0 = 0xc000517d; mmu, write buffer, and all caches on. Is all of that really supposed to happen here? Or is r0 getting incorrectly set in __create_page_tables? I remember someone else reporting a freeze when the MMU is switched on (SA1110 also). Any ideas? Thanks, Chris From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 27 21:50:40 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA05602; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:50:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA04102 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:50:38 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTO00EE7XSCLJ@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:50:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA11740; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15673; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:45:32 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA01791; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA11254; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22938; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:45:18 -0700 Received: from tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com (mail.teklogix.com [207.219.2.10]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA30408 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DeadDuck (BILL [10.128.5.25]) by tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id JCA1L74Q; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:44:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:46:58 -0400 From: Bill Pringlemeir Subject: Re: booting kernel on SA1110 In-reply-to: Chris Blazie's message of "Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:22:18 -0400 (EDT)" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Chris Blazie Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: Organization: noitazinagro MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.5 X-Home-Page: http://www.wwonline.com/~bpringle/ Lines: 49 References: Are you sure that it isn't, MCR p15, 0, r1, c2, c0, 0 /* Write the TTBR in MMU */ This is the base for the page table. I believe that the page table must be aligned to an address divisible by 0x4000. If the actual instruction is, mcr p15, 0, r0, c1, c0, 0 Then this is setting up the configuration and the value in r0 doesn't make any sense to me. 0xc000???? makes sense as this is a physical RAM value and this would be a good place to put the MMU table. A value that would be good is 0xc0008000, but you must have setup the table to be based here. Sorry I don't have the Linux code yet. I am almost done with vxWorks. I have done a lot of stuff to get this to boot. Send me / direct me to head-armv.s and I might be able to tell more. cheers, Bill >>>>> "Chris" == Chris Blazie writes: Chris> I'm trying to get a kernel to boot on an SA1110 Chris> platform (development board with 64mb SDRAM). I set up the Chris> memory configurations in mm/mm-sa1100.c and kernel/arch.c. Chris> I pass architecture number 0x10 from the bootloader but it Chris> never gets out of head-armv.S. I traced the problem to the Chris> instruction turning on the MMU: Chris> mcr p15, 0, r0, c1, c0 Chris> At this point r0 = 0xc000517d; mmu, write buffer, and Chris> all caches on. Is all of that really supposed to happen Chris> here? Or is r0 getting incorrectly set in Chris> __create_page_tables? Chris> I remember someone else reporting a freeze when the Chris> MMU is switched on (SA1110 also). Any ideas? -- I'm a fuschia bowling ball somewhere in Brittany Yow!! It's LIBERACE and TUESDAY WELD!! High on a HILL... driving a LITTLE CAR... I wanna be in that LITTLE CAR, too!! I wanna drive off with LIBBY and TUESDAY! From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Apr 27 22:47:40 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA05934; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:47:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05306 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:47:37 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTP00H5P0FB9T@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:47:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA16158; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02311; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:42:21 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA31989; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA17852; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02493; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:41:31 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA05865 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:38:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: booting kernel on SA1110 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Chris Blazie Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Chris Blazie wrote: > > I'm trying to get a kernel to boot on an SA1110 platform > (development board with 64mb SDRAM). I set up the memory configurations > in mm/mm-sa1100.c and kernel/arch.c. I pass architecture number 0x10 from > the bootloader but it never gets out of head-armv.S. I traced the problem > to the instruction turning on the MMU: > > mcr p15, 0, r0, c1, c0 > > At this point r0 = 0xc000517d; mmu, write buffer, and all caches > on. Is all of that really supposed to happen here? Yep. > I remember someone else reporting a freeze when the MMU is > switched on (SA1110 also). Any ideas? It has been cured in latest patches. It is surely not the same problem. What patches do you have? Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon May 1 23:37:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA26457; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:37:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27443 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:37:09 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTW0085RHDVZE@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:37:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA16497; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03363; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:31:21 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA03017; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA03559; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16957; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:28:15 -0700 Received: from ADSServer.flatpanels.com (flatpanels.com [207.196.69.66] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA31465 for ; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by flatpanels.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 01 May 2000 17:23:13 -0400 Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 17:23:10 -0400 From: "Saxena, Nikita" Subject: Socket handling... Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <91B07CA588CED3118CFE00105AC97594D1A8@flatpanels.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone knew of any problems handling sockets under Linux 2.3.35 running on a StrongARM platform. I have a file (compiled with 'gcc -static namedsock.c -o namedsock' or 'arm-linux-gcc etc') doesn't complain under Red Hat but blows up when run on the arm with a "socket: Invalid argument" error. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Nikita Saxena From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon May 1 23:47:35 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA26503; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:47:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27626 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:47:34 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTW0096YHV711@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:47:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA05591; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14102; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:42:11 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA09077; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA30349; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29568; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:41:52 -0700 Received: from crlwebmail.crl.dec.com (crlwebmail.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.2]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id RAA25378; Mon, 01 May 2000 17:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CRLWEBMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <20427D5Y>; Mon, 01 May 2000 17:46:04 -0400 Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 17:42:26 -0400 From: George France Subject: RE: Socket handling... Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Saxena, Nikita'" , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hello Nikita; Could you gives some more detail?? Which processor, which version on gcc, the library versions, the error messages and a copy of the relevant source code?? Under Red Hat what??? Sorry, about all of the questions, but what you have asked is a lot like going to the airport and asking "I could I have a ticket to somewhere nice". Although it is not a bad question, it is not very useful. Best Regards, --George George France, france@crl.dec.com Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation One Kendall Square, Building 700 MS: CRL Cambridge, MA 02139 USA -----Original Message----- From: Saxena, Nikita [mailto:NSaxena@flatpanels.com] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 5:23 PM To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Socket handling... Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone knew of any problems handling sockets under Linux 2.3.35 running on a StrongARM platform. I have a file (compiled with 'gcc -static namedsock.c -o namedsock' or 'arm-linux-gcc etc') doesn't complain under Red Hat but blows up when run on the arm with a "socket: Invalid argument" error. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Nikita Saxena From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 2 00:03:31 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA26566; Tue, 2 May 2000 00:03:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA27919 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 00:03:29 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTW009EPILR11@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 2 May 2000 00:03:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA12898; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20926; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:58:15 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA11110; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA08981; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08850; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:58:01 -0700 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA11797 for ; Mon, 01 May 2000 14:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 12mOxk-0006GX-00; Mon, 01 May 2000 23:46:48 +0100 Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 23:46:48 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: Socket handling... In-reply-to: "Message from Saxena, Nikita" "of Mon, 01 May 2000 17:23:10 EDT." <91B07CA588CED3118CFE00105AC97594D1A8@flatpanels.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "Saxena, Nikita" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <91B07CA588CED3118CFE00105AC97594D1A8@flatpanels.com> >2.3.35 running on a StrongARM platform. I have a file (compiled with 'gcc >-static namedsock.c -o namedsock' or >'arm-linux-gcc etc') doesn't complain under Red Hat but blows up when run >on the arm with a "socket: Invalid argument" error. > >Does anyone have any suggestions? What is the actual call that fails? Running it under strace might yield some clues. There should be no incompatibility here. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 2 05:03:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA27695; Tue, 2 May 2000 05:03:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA01533 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 05:03:25 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTW00FF9WHN8R@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 2 May 2000 05:03:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA08418; Mon, 01 May 2000 19:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15620; Mon, 01 May 2000 19:57:50 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA22153; Mon, 01 May 2000 19:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA26220; Mon, 01 May 2000 19:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11944; Mon, 01 May 2000 19:56:38 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id TAA08351 for ; Mon, 01 May 2000 19:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18355 for ; Mon, 01 May 2000 22:56:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 22:56:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs ... is available from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. This contains: - updated to latest kernel version - LEDs support for Assabet, Brutus, LART - Low-level SA1100 PCMCIA framework with documentation from John G Dorsey This is still work in progress... it is not working yet. - Further machine configuration reorganization - UCB1200 driver from 2.2.x ported to current version by Erik Mouw Tested on LART only, but Brutus should still work. This code would need a big cleanup though... - Typo from last patch fixed - compiler flags fix in Makefile - fixed code for enabling caches for kernel decompression on SA1100's - ... and probably some other things I forget Enjoy! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 2 09:59:39 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id JAA28782; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:59:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05800 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:59:32 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTX000FIA76C2@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:59:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id AAA14868; Tue, 02 May 2000 00:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07135; Tue, 02 May 2000 00:51:59 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA20022; Tue, 02 May 2000 00:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA12421; Tue, 02 May 2000 00:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13447; Tue, 02 May 2000 00:50:53 -0700 Received: from krdl.org.sg (rodin.krdl.org.sg [192.122.139.27]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id AAA11199 for ; Tue, 02 May 2000 00:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.krdl.org.sg (mailhost [192.122.134.30]) by krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19124; Tue, 02 May 2000 15:58:17 +0800 Received: from krdl.org.sg (QUNYING.krdl.org.sg [192.168.136.36]) by mailhost.krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19348; Tue, 02 May 2000 15:49:45 +0800 (SGT) Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 15:50:39 +0800 From: zhu qun ying Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nicolas Pitre , sa1100 Message-id: <390E88CF.D2A4E41D@krdl.org.sg> Organization: KRDL MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail1.digital.com id AAA11199 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: I just compiled this kernel, and the kernel hung after release initrd mem= ory. The boot messages is as below: Uncompressing Linux.................................. done, booting the k= ernel. Linux version 2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 (qyzhu@edge2) (gcc version 2.95.2 1999= 1024 (r elease)) #9 Tue May 2 15:25:48 SGT 2000 Architecture: LART On node 0 totalpages: 4096 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. On node 1 totalpages: 4096 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS Memory: 16MB 16MB =3D 32MB total Memory: 26948KB available (867K code, 193K data, 40K init) VFS: DCACHE hash table configured to 4096 entries Buffer-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) VFS: INODE hash table configured to 2048 entries POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.3 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 2048 bind 2048) Starting kswapd v1.6 SA1100 serial driver version 1.2 ttyS0 on SA1100 UART3 (irq 17) ttyS1 on SA1100 UART1 (irq 15) pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 8192K size 1024 blocksize RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 Freeing initrd memory: 4096k freed Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000= 070 pgd =3D c0004000 *pgd =3D c011f001, *pmd =3D c011f001, *pte =3D c011e08b, *ppte =3D c011e0= 0a Internal error: Oops: 0 CPU: 0 pc : [] lr : [] sp : c204dfb0 ip : 80000013 fp : 00000000 r10: c0011158 r9 : 4401a119 r8 : c0112d54 r7 : c0111224 r6 : c00f4bf8 r5 : c00dcfc0 r4 : 00000000 r3 : 0000000a r2 : 00000070 r1 : c0080ea4 r0 : a0000013 Flags: NzCv IRQs off FIQs on Mode SVC_32 Segment kernel Control: C000517F Table: C000517F DAC: 0000001D Process swapper (pid: 1, stackpage=3Dc204d000) Stack: c204dfa0: c0063c8c c000e958 a0000093 ffffffff 00000000 c0011d80 c0011d88= c00f85 bc c204dfc0: c000889c 00000001 c00ee840 c0008944 c0111684 c001215c c011a128= c01116 84 c204dfe0: c01116d0 c00eea64 c0012164 c001215c c011a128 c0111684 c01116d0= c0013d 00 Backtrace: no frame pointer Code: e3a02070 e3a0300a (e5c23000) e5d21000 e5c23000 I have a LART like board, and have kernel-2.3.99-pre3-rmk1-np2 working. W= hat's the major change that cause this problem? 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1.0 To: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just compiled it for Brutus and it gives repeated warnings and kernel panic . --------------------------------------------------------------- Linux version 2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 (root@nandana.sri.blah.net) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #1 Tue May 2 13:29:25 LKT 2000 Architecture: Intel Brutus (SA1100 eval board) hm, page ee001000 reserved twice. hm, page ee002000 reserved twice. hm, page ee011000 reserved twice. hm, page ee013000 reserved twice. hm, page ee018000 reserved twice. hm, page ee01b000 reserved twice. hm, page ee01d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee01e000 reserved twice. hm, page ee01f000 reserved twice. hm, page ee022000 reserved twice. hm, page ee024000 reserved twice. hm, page ee025000 reserved twice. hm, page ee026000 reserved twice. hm, page ee02d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee030000 reserved twice. hm, page ee031000 reserved twice. hm, page ee033000 reserved twice. hm, page ee034000 reserved twice. hm, page ee038000 reserved twice. hm, page ee03a000 reserved twice. hm, page ee03d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee03e000 reserved twice. hm, page ee03f000 reserved twice. hm, page ee042000 reserved twice. hm, page ee043000 reserved twice. hm, page ee044000 reserved twice. hm, page ee045000 reserved twice. hm, page ee046000 reserved twice. hm, page ee04e000 reserved twice. hm, page ee050000 reserved twice. hm, page ee051000 reserved twice. hm, page ee053000 reserved twice. hm, page ee054000 reserved twice. hm, page ee058000 reserved twice. hm, page ee05a000 reserved twice. hm, page ee05d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee05e000 reserved twice. hm, page ee05f000 reserved twice. hm, page ee060000 reserved twice. hm, page ee06c000 reserved twice. hm, page ee06d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee071000 reserved twice. hm, page ee075000 reserved twice. hm, page ee079000 reserved twice. hm, page ee07d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee07e000 reserved twice. hm, page ee07f000 reserved twice. hm, page ee080000 reserved twice. hm, page ee081000 reserved twice. hm, page ee087000 reserved twice. hm, page ee088000 reserved twice. hm, page ee089000 reserved twice. hm, page ee08a000 reserved twice. hm, page ee08c000 reserved twice. hm, page ee08d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee092000 reserved twice. hm, page ee097000 reserved twice. hm, page ee098000 reserved twice. hm, page ee09d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee09e000 reserved twice. hm, page ee09f000 reserved twice. hm, page ee0a2000 reserved twice. hm, page ee0a3000 reserved twice. hm, page ee0a4000 reserved twice. hm, page ee0a5000 reserved twice. hm, page ee0a7000 reserved twice. hm, page ee0aa000 reserved twice. hm, page ee0ac000 reserved twice. hm, page ee0ad000 reserved twice. hm, page ee0b0000 reserved twice. hm, page ee0b1000 reserved twice. hm, page ee0b3000 reserved twice. hm, page ee0b6000 reserved twice. hm, page ee0b8000 reserved twice. hm, 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reserved twice. hm, page ee102000 reserved twice. hm, page ee110000 reserved twice. hm, page ee111000 reserved twice. hm, page ee117000 reserved twice. hm, page ee11b000 reserved twice. hm, page ee11d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee11e000 reserved twice. hm, page ee11f000 reserved twice. hm, page ee120000 reserved twice. hm, page ee121000 reserved twice. hm, page ee128000 reserved twice. hm, page ee139000 reserved twice. hm, page ee13b000 reserved twice. hm, page ee13d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee13e000 reserved twice. hm, page ee13f000 reserved twice. hm, page ee142000 reserved twice. hm, page ee145000 reserved twice. hm, page ee146000 reserved twice. hm, page ee14c000 reserved twice. hm, page ee150000 reserved twice. hm, page ee151000 reserved twice. hm, page ee153000 reserved twice. hm, page ee156000 reserved twice. hm, page ee159000 reserved twice. hm, page ee15d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee15e000 reserved twice. hm, page ee15f000 reserved twice. hm, page ee163000 reserved 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reserved twice. hm, page ee231000 reserved twice. hm, page ee232000 reserved twice. hm, page ee234000 reserved twice. hm, page ee236000 reserved twice. hm, page ee238000 reserved twice. hm, page ee239000 reserved twice. hm, page ee23d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee23e000 reserved twice. hm, page ee23f000 reserved twice. hm, page ee240000 reserved twice. hm, page ee241000 reserved twice. hm, page ee242000 reserved twice. hm, page ee243000 reserved twice. hm, page ee244000 reserved twice. hm, page ee245000 reserved twice. hm, page ee24d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee24f000 reserved twice. hm, page ee250000 reserved twice. hm, page ee253000 reserved twice. hm, page ee259000 reserved twice. hm, page ee25d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee25e000 reserved twice. hm, page ee25f000 reserved twice. hm, page ee264000 reserved twice. hm, page ee265000 reserved twice. hm, page ee271000 reserved twice. hm, page ee274000 reserved twice. hm, page ee27b000 reserved twice. hm, page ee27d000 reserved twice. hm, page ee27e000 reserved twice. hm, page ee27f000 reserved twice. hm, page ee282000 reserved twice. hm, page ee299000 reserved twice. hm, page ee29b000 reserved twice. hm, page ee29c000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2af000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2b5000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2b7000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2b8000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2b9000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2bd000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2be000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2bf000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2cc000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2cd000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2ce000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2d5000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2d7000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2d8000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2d9000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2dd000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2de000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2df000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2e0000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2e2000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2ec000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2f5000 reserved twice. hm, page ee2f7000 reserved twice. hm, 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On node 0 totalpages: 1024 zone(0): 1024 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. On node 1 totalpages: 1024 zone(0): 1024 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. On node 2 totalpages: 1024 zone(0): 1024 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. On node 3 totalpages: 1024 zone(0): 1024 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Console: colour dummy device 80x30 Calibrating delay loop... 194.15 BogoMIPS Memory: 4MB 4MB 4MB 4MB = 16MB total Memory: 15048KB available (725K code, 213K data, 52K init) VFS: DCACHE hash table configured to 2048 entries Buffer-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) VFS: INODE hash table configured to 1024 entries POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.3 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Starting kswapd v1.6 Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 40x30 Brutus keyboard driver v1.0 SA1100 serial driver version 1.2 ttyS0 on SA1100 UART1 (irq 15), using GPIO 14/15 ttyS1 on SA1100 UART3 (irq 17) pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured MCP SA1100/UCB1200 module initalized SA1100 MCP audio driver version 2.2 initialized RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 8192K size 1024 blocksize RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0. Freeing initrd memory: 3072k freed NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.95 (c) 1998-1999 Rebel.com kmem_alloc: Bad front redzone (name=inode_cache) kmem_alloc: Bad rear redzone (name=inode_cache) kmem_alloc: Bad poison (name=inode_cache) iput: inode 00:00/5 still has locks! iput: device 00:00 inode 5 still has aliases! iput: Aieee, semaphore in use inode 00:00/5, count=32 Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00 --------------------------------------------------- Anyway after 2.3.35 it doesnt working on Brutus. Nandana Nicolas Pitre wrote: > ... is available from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. > > This contains: > > - updated to latest kernel version > - LEDs support for Assabet, Brutus, LART > - Low-level SA1100 PCMCIA framework with documentation from John G Dorsey > This is still work in progress... it is not working yet. > - Further machine configuration reorganization > - UCB1200 driver from 2.2.x ported to current version by Erik Mouw > Tested on LART only, but Brutus should still work. > This code would need a big cleanup though... > - Typo from last patch fixed > - compiler flags fix in Makefile > - fixed code for enabling caches for kernel decompression on SA1100's > - ... and probably some other things I forget > > Enjoy! > > Nicolas --------------B398D46FECEBBCBB6C17B9DB-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 2 15:19:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA00813; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:19:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15977 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:19:50 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTX00MPCP0ZG6@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:19:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA14675; Tue, 02 May 2000 06:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20239; Tue, 02 May 2000 06:14:26 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA26076; Tue, 02 May 2000 06:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA17212; Tue, 02 May 2000 06:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17516; Tue, 02 May 2000 06:13:19 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA32129 for ; Tue, 02 May 2000 06:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dutein71 by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA00761; Tue, 02 May 2000 15:11:46 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue May 02 15:11:45 +0200 (MDT) 2000 From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200005021311.PAA00761@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.1 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (IRIX) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Mon, 01 May 2000 22:56:25 -0400 (EDT), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > ... is available from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. > > This contains: > > - updated to latest kernel version > - LEDs support for Assabet, Brutus, LART > - Low-level SA1100 PCMCIA framework with documentation from John G Dorsey > This is still work in progress... it is not working yet. > - Further machine configuration reorganization > - UCB1200 driver from 2.2.x ported to current version by Erik Mouw > Tested on LART only, but Brutus should still work. > This code would need a big cleanup though... I think this needs some clarification: - I just ported it from 2.2.x to 2.3.99-pre3. I can MP3 files using splay, so sound _output_ works. I didn't yet test the sound _input_ though. - The code currently doesn't compile as a module. There were some module hooks in it which I preserved, but I didn't test it as a module. - It is compiled in if you choose to compile for LART, Brutus, or Tifon. It should be made a configuration option. - It should be a real OSS module and not a SA1100 specific module. - I think we should get rid of the Itsy sound API, because OSS is standard. - We also should get rid of the multi-open/mixing/rate conversion implementation, because it is unwanted policy. Policy belongs in userland, the kernel should just provide mechanisms. There are userland solutions to do mixing, like the Enlightenment Sound Daemon (esd, comes with GNOME). > - Typo from last patch fixed > - compiler flags fix in Makefile > - fixed code for enabling caches for kernel decompression on SA1100's > - ... and probably some other things I forget > > > Enjoy! It Doesn't Work [tm] on the LART. Here is the kernel output: blob> boot Starting kernel ... Uncompressing Linux.................................... done, booting the kernel. That's all. I think the discontinuous memory setup broke, I'll see if I can find a clue. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2783635 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email: J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 2 17:30:29 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA01532; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:30:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19979 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:30:27 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTX009JQV2OI6@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:30:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA03737; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18806; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:25:17 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA30275; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03475; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09488; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:25:05 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA25924 for ; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 10:08:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 In-reply-to: <390E8D30.E237E6D4@sri.atpos.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Nandana Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 May 2000, Nandana wrote: > I just compiled it for Brutus and it gives repeated warnings and kernel > panic . Thanks. I'll look at it as soon as I can. In the mean time you may stick to 2.3.35-rmk1-np9 which seems stable on Brutus. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 2 17:27:23 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA01497; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:27:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19870 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:27:21 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTX009FHUXJI6@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:27:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA25496; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18375; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:22:11 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA30527; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03550; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10117; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:21:33 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA06289 for ; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 11:13:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 In-reply-to: <200005021311.PAA00761@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 May -1, Erik Mouw wrote: > On Mon, 01 May 2000 22:56:25 -0400 (EDT), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > ... is available from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. > > > > This contains: > > > > - updated to latest kernel version > > - LEDs support for Assabet, Brutus, LART > > - Low-level SA1100 PCMCIA framework with documentation from John G Dorsey > > This is still work in progress... it is not working yet. > > - Further machine configuration reorganization > > - UCB1200 driver from 2.2.x ported to current version by Erik Mouw > > Tested on LART only, but Brutus should still work. > > This code would need a big cleanup though... > > I think this needs some clarification: > > - I just ported it from 2.2.x to 2.3.99-pre3. I can MP3 files using splay, > so sound _output_ works. I didn't yet test the sound _input_ though. Of course my comment about cleaning up the code didn't apply to you directly since you only ported it. No reproches to you of course. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 2 17:32:57 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA01541; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:32:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20035 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:32:54 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTX009FFV6QNZ@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:32:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA26083; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30171; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:27:47 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA29271; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA04698; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09156; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:27:24 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA26037 for ; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 11:19:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 In-reply-to: <200005021311.PAA00761@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 May -1, Erik Mouw wrote: > It Doesn't Work [tm] on the LART. Here is the kernel output: > > blob> boot > > Starting kernel ... > > Uncompressing Linux.................................... done, booting the kernel. > > That's all. I think the discontinuous memory setup broke, I'll see if I > can find a clue. It might be even simpler than that. Try this: - configure in CONFIG_DEBUG_LL - ensure the correct port address (UART1 or UART3) is selected for your board in debug-armv.S - intercept all printk() messages and send them also with printascii() in kernel/printk.c - reboot and see what it shows. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 2 17:34:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA01550; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:34:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20098 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:34:11 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTX008M1V8WYY@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:34:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA26174; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06596; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:29:04 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA28799; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA11752; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21291; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:28:52 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA03801 for ; Tue, 02 May 2000 08:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dutein71 by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA01503; Tue, 02 May 2000 17:27:27 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue May 02 17:27:24 +0200 (MDT) 2000 From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200005021527.RAA01503@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.1 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (IRIX) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Tue, 02 May 2000 11:13:11 -0400 (EDT), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Tue, 2 May -1, Erik Mouw wrote: >> On Mon, 01 May 2000 22:56:25 -0400 (EDT), Nicolas Pitre wrote: >> > - UCB1200 driver from 2.2.x ported to current version by Erik Mouw >> > Tested on LART only, but Brutus should still work. >> > This code would need a big cleanup though... >> >> I think this needs some clarification: >> >> - I just ported it from 2.2.x to 2.3.99-pre3. I can MP3 files using splay, >> so sound _output_ works. I didn't yet test the sound _input_ though. > > Of course my comment about cleaning up the code didn't apply to you > directly since you only ported it. No reproches to you of course. I didn't take it personally, I just wanted to point out what needed to be done in my opinion. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2783635 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email: J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 3 02:30:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA03924; Wed, 3 May 2000 02:30:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01405 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 02:30:07 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTY006N9K24X0@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 3 May 2000 02:30:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA05721; Tue, 02 May 2000 17:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14775; Tue, 02 May 2000 17:24:24 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA28889; Tue, 02 May 2000 17:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA09324; Tue, 02 May 2000 17:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21591; Tue, 02 May 2000 17:21:32 -0700 Received: from krdl.org.sg (rodin.krdl.org.sg [192.122.139.27]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id RAA10380 for ; Tue, 02 May 2000 17:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.krdl.org.sg (mailhost [192.122.134.30]) by krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15144; Wed, 03 May 2000 08:29:01 +0800 Received: from krdl.org.sg (QUNYING.krdl.org.sg [192.168.136.36]) by mailhost.krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11345; Wed, 03 May 2000 08:20:26 +0800 (SGT) Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 08:21:24 +0800 From: zhu qun ying Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw , sa1100 Message-id: <390F7104.2DF7C54@krdl.org.sg> Organization: KRDL MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail1.digital.com id RAA10380 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <200005021311.PAA00761@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Erik Mouw wrote: > I think this needs some clarification: >=20 > - I just ported it from 2.2.x to 2.3.99-pre3. I can MP3 files using spl= ay, > so sound _output_ works. I didn't yet test the sound _input_ though. >=20 > - The code currently doesn't compile as a module. There were some modul= e > hooks in it which I preserved, but I didn't test it as a module. >=20 > - It is compiled in if you choose to compile for LART, Brutus, or Tifon. > It should be made a configuration option. >=20 > - It should be a real OSS module and not a SA1100 specific module. >=20 > - I think we should get rid of the Itsy sound API, because OSS is > standard. But ALSA will be the future (2.5) of Linux sound system, why use OSS now = and change later? Linus has agreed to put ALSA into the main kernel tree to r= eplace OSS once 2.5 is started (It is to late for 2.4). I use ALSA for the PC se= tup, everything goes well with it. http://www.alsa-project.org >=20 > - We also should get rid of the multi-open/mixing/rate conversion > implementation, because it is unwanted policy. Policy belongs in > userland, the kernel should just provide mechanisms. There are userla= nd > solutions to do mixing, like the Enlightenment Sound Daemon (esd, com= es > with GNOME). >=20 > It Doesn't Work [tm] on the LART. Here is the kernel output: >=20 > blob> boot >=20 > Starting kernel ... >=20 > Uncompressing Linux.................................... done, booting= the kernel. >=20 > That's all. I think the discontinuous memory setup broke, I'll see if I > can find a clue. >=20 > Erik >=20 I get the kernel booted. And I found that my code runs faster at this new kernel. I have a program to grap a image from a parallel port scanner, it= need 330~360 ms at kernel 2.3.99-pre3, now it takes 300~302 ms. --=20 (~._.~) =D6=EC =C8=BA =D3=A2 (Qun Ying) (65) 874-6743 ( O ) Kent Ridge Digital Labs (KRDL) ()~*~() 21 Heng Mui Keng Terrace, Singapore 119613 (_)-(_) qyzhu@krdl.org.sg * zhuqy@hotmail.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 3 10:54:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA05830; Wed, 3 May 2000 10:54:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08809 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 10:54:57 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTZ00LNJ7FJ05@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 3 May 2000 10:54:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA03843; Wed, 03 May 2000 01:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11159; Wed, 03 May 2000 01:49:06 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA00100; Wed, 03 May 2000 01:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA13792; Wed, 03 May 2000 01:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31159; Wed, 03 May 2000 01:47:36 -0700 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id BAA03992 for ; Wed, 03 May 2000 01:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.168.32.2]) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12mvtK-0003Vm-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Wed, 03 May 2000 09:56:26 +0000 Received: from [192.168.33.3] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12muoe-0000U1-00; Wed, 03 May 2000 09:47:32 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12muoe-0008Ur-00; Wed, 03 May 2000 09:47:32 +0100 Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 09:47:32 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 In-reply-to: Message from zhu qun ying "of Wed, 03 May 2000 08:21:24 +0800." <390F7104.2DF7C54@krdl.org.sg> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: zhu qun ying Cc: Erik Mouw , sa1100 Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <200005021311.PAA00761@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> <390F7104.2DF7C54@krdl.org.sg> In message <390F7104.2DF7C54@krdl.org.sg>, zhu qun ying writes: >But ALSA will be the future (2.5) of Linux sound system, why use OSS now >and change later? Agreed. It seems foolish to put too much effort into OSS now. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 3 11:10:53 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA05936; Wed, 3 May 2000 11:10:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09313 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 11:10:51 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTZ00LA3861ZK@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 3 May 2000 11:10:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id CAA07325; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09116; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:05:41 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA06187; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA13277; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08774; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:05:31 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id CAA04775 for ; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dutein71 by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA05887; Wed, 03 May 2000 11:04:09 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed May 03 11:04:07 +0200 (MDT) 2000 From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 In-reply-to: <390F7104.2DF7C54@krdl.org.sg> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: qyzhu@krdl.org.sg Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200005030904.LAA05887@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.1 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (IRIX) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Wed, 03 May 2000 08:21:24 +0800, zhu qun ying wrote: > Erik Mouw wrote: >> - I think we should get rid of the Itsy sound API, because OSS is >> standard. > > But ALSA will be the future (2.5) of Linux sound system, why use OSS now and > change later? Linus has agreed to put ALSA into the main kernel tree to replace > OSS once 2.5 is started (It is to late for 2.4). I use ALSA for the PC setup, > everything goes well with it. > http://www.alsa-project.org Why not (yet) ALSA: - The OSS API is already in place. We just need to get rid of the Itsy API. - The OSS API is the current kernel standard and it is here right now. - 2.3.99 is currently in deep freeze, and I think it will be like that for at least two or three months. Alan Cox regularly posts "2.4 task lists" to the kernel mailing list which contain all kinds of show-stopper bugs that need to be fixed before 2.4.0. The task list becomes shorter, but it is still quite large. After 2.4.0 is released, it will take several months (6 or so) before 2.5 development start. It will take at least 8 months before 2.5 development starts. > I get the kernel booted. And I found that my code runs faster at this new > kernel. I have a program to grap a image from a parallel port scanner, it need > 330~360 ms at kernel 2.3.99-pre3, now it takes 300~302 ms. What kind of hardware do you use? Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2783635 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email: J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 3 11:35:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA06127; Wed, 3 May 2000 11:35:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10150 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 11:35:54 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTZ000QC9BS9N@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 3 May 2000 11:35:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id CAA05897; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23471; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:30:44 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA09161; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA09719; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07311; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:30:16 -0700 Received: from krdl.org.sg (rodin.krdl.org.sg [192.122.139.27]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id CAA05950 for ; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.krdl.org.sg (mailhost [192.122.134.30]) by krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02437; Wed, 03 May 2000 17:37:55 +0800 Received: from krdl.org.sg (QUNYING.krdl.org.sg [192.168.136.36]) by mailhost.krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10321; Wed, 03 May 2000 17:29:22 +0800 (SGT) Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 17:30:11 +0800 From: zhu qun ying Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw , sa1100 Message-id: <390FF1A3.1912F373@krdl.org.sg> Organization: KRDL MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail2.digital.com id CAA05950 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <200005030904.LAA05887@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> > Why not (yet) ALSA: >=20 > - The OSS API is already in place. We just need to get rid of the Itsy = API. > - The OSS API is the current kernel standard and it is here right now. > - 2.3.99 is currently in deep freeze, and I think it will be like that = for > at least two or three months. Alan Cox regularly posts "2.4 task list= s" > to the kernel mailing list which contain all kinds of show-stopper bu= gs > that need to be fixed before 2.4.0. The task list becomes shorter, bu= t > it is still quite large. After 2.4.0 is released, it will take severa= l > months (6 or so) before 2.5 development start. It will take at least = 8 > months before 2.5 development starts. It is still argurable, since ALSA works quite well now. The current ALSA = tree is not integrated with the main kernel and maitain as a separate modules. Si= nce the affort of making it as a real OSS module and independent of SA1100, it ma= ke sence to use ALSA now (a ALSA module). The only thing I am not sure is ho= w well the ALSA works on different platform. >=20 > > I get the kernel booted. And I found that my code runs faster at this= new > > kernel. I have a program to grap a image from a parallel port scanner= , it need > > 330~360 ms at kernel 2.3.99-pre3, now it takes 300~302 ms. >=20 > What kind of hardware do you use? >=20 > Erik It is a hardware quite similar to LART, and I compiled the kernel with LA= RT configuration and some modification to the code. The board I used has 2 b= anks of DRAM each has 16 MB (starting at 0xc000000, and 0xc8000000). And use UART= 3 as the serail console. Other GPIO pins are used to implement the parallel interface. --=20 (~._.~) =D6=EC =C8=BA =D3=A2 (Qun Ying) (65) 874-6743 ( O ) Kent Ridge Digital Labs (KRDL) ()~*~() 21 Heng Mui Keng Terrace, Singapore 119613 (_)-(_) qyzhu@krdl.org.sg * zhuqy@hotmail.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 3 11:54:05 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA06245; Wed, 3 May 2000 11:54:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10704 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 11:54:03 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTZ002B4A618G@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 3 May 2000 11:54:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id CAA11567; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08820; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:48:56 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA06916; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA30191; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10517; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:48:30 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id CAA06779 for ; Wed, 03 May 2000 02:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dutein71 by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA06209; Wed, 03 May 2000 11:47:09 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed May 03 11:47:08 +0200 (MDT) 2000 From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 In-reply-to: <390FF1A3.1912F373@krdl.org.sg> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: qyzhu@krdl.org.sg Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200005030947.LAA06209@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.1 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (IRIX) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Wed, 03 May 2000 17:30:11 +0800, zhu qun ying wrote: > It is still argurable, since ALSA works quite well now. The current ALSA tree is > not integrated with the main kernel and maitain as a separate modules. Since the > affort of making it as a real OSS module and independent of SA1100, it make > sence to use ALSA now (a ALSA module). The only thing I am not sure is how well > the ALSA works on different platform. I agree that we should move to ALSA, but I don't think we should do it right now. Cleaning up the current OSS stuff is quite easy: just remove all of the Itsy API and you're set. Writing a complete driver ALSA compatible driver from the ground up is much more complicated. I don't want to spend too much time on it so I just want to clean up the driver. However, if somebody wants to write an ALSA driver, please go ahead. >> What kind of hardware do you use? > > It is a hardware quite similar to LART, and I compiled the kernel with LART > configuration and some modification to the code. The board I used has 2 banks of > DRAM each has 16 MB (starting at 0xc000000, and 0xc8000000). And use UART3 as > the serail console. Other GPIO pins are used to implement the parallel > interface. OK, that's more evidence that the discontiguous memory support is broken. Here is the LART memory layout: - 0xc0000000-0xc07fffff - 0xc1000000-0xc17fffff - 0xc8000000-0xc87fffff - 0xc9000000-0xc97fffff So that's two logical banks in each physical bank. I'll disable the memory at 0xc1000000 and 0xc9000000 to see what happens. Erik -- Computers run on faith, not electrons. -- T.N. Thompson From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 3 17:25:43 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA08433; Wed, 3 May 2000 17:25:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21174 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 17:25:41 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTZ000XKPIRIB@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 3 May 2000 17:25:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA28245; Wed, 03 May 2000 08:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13385; Wed, 03 May 2000 08:20:07 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA28278; Wed, 03 May 2000 08:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA29297; Wed, 03 May 2000 08:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11894; Wed, 03 May 2000 08:18:56 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA27715 for ; Wed, 03 May 2000 08:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 11:10:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 In-reply-to: <200005030947.LAA06209@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 May -1, Erik Mouw wrote: > > It is a hardware quite similar to LART, and I compiled the kernel with LART > > configuration and some modification to the code. The board I used has 2 banks of > > DRAM each has 16 MB (starting at 0xc000000, and 0xc8000000). And use UART3 as > > the serail console. Other GPIO pins are used to implement the parallel > > interface. > > OK, that's more evidence that the discontiguous memory support is broken. The discontigous memory support is used by the above configuration as well. > Here is the LART memory layout: > > - 0xc0000000-0xc07fffff > - 0xc1000000-0xc17fffff > - 0xc8000000-0xc87fffff > - 0xc9000000-0xc97fffff > > So that's two logical banks in each physical bank. I'll disable the memory > at 0xc1000000 and 0xc9000000 to see what happens. Or, in arch/arm/mm/init.c, try commenting out the call to create_memmap_holes() instead. Only LART is using it in the discontigous memory case at the moment... and I may have screwed it up. Also please try booting with printk()'s messages sent out by printascii(). The boot sequence may have gone far but not to the point where the real printk() is initialized. In linux/kernel/printk.c, you'll find the following code segment: if (msg_level < console_loglevel && console_drivers) { struct console *c = console_drivers; while(c) { if ((c->flags & CON_ENABLED) && c->write) c->write(c, msg, p - msg + line_feed); c = c->next; } } Just before that segment, add this: printascii(msg); and tell me the result. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 3 17:36:45 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA08520; Wed, 3 May 2000 17:36:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21560 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 17:36:44 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FTZ0000WQ16XH@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 3 May 2000 17:36:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA23665; Wed, 03 May 2000 08:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00766; Wed, 03 May 2000 08:31:38 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA08643; Wed, 03 May 2000 08:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA30419; Wed, 03 May 2000 08:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13137; Wed, 03 May 2000 08:31:27 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA31645 for ; Wed, 03 May 2000 08:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dutein71 by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA08459; Wed, 03 May 2000 17:30:09 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed May 03 17:30:08 +0200 (MDT) 2000 From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Clock scaling patch Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, lart@lart.tudelft.nl Message-id: <200005031530.RAA08459@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.1 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (IRIX) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! Hi all, I just released the clock scaling patch for the SA-1100 CPU. It works perfectly well on the LART, but it should work on any SA-1100 platform that uses 50ns EDO DRAM. I'm going to make it more generic, so it will run on other SA-1100 platforms as well. Have a look at: http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/lartware/port/ The C file contains lots of documentation about how it works. Enjoy, Erik PS: I take a couple of days of, I'll be back in the office at monday. Maybe I read my email, maybe not. -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2783635 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email: J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 3 22:13:42 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA09995; Wed, 3 May 2000 22:13:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27814 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 22:13:40 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU000E2K2UQLX@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 3 May 2000 22:13:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA18577; Wed, 03 May 2000 13:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16940; Wed, 03 May 2000 13:08:14 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA12754; Wed, 03 May 2000 13:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA30104; Wed, 03 May 2000 13:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17618; Wed, 03 May 2000 13:07:05 -0700 Received: from thebrain.trakonic.com (thebrain.trakonic.com [24.222.63.8]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA20153 for ; Wed, 03 May 2000 13:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Moe (192.168.10.43) by thebrain.trakonic.com (Worldmail 1.3.167) for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Wed, 03 May 2000 17:07:24 -0300 Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 17:05:25 -0300 From: "J.R. MacArthur" Subject: Realtime/SA1110 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <005901bfb53a$ec151b00$2b0aa8c0@trakonic.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk We are currently working on a port to the SA1110, are there any SA1100 Real Time patches out there that we could apply to our SA1110 kernel? ================================================= J.R. MacArthur Electrical Technologist Trakonic (www.trakonic.com) From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 3 22:37:21 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA10096; Wed, 3 May 2000 22:37:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28326 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 22:37:20 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU000F863Y6JZ@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Wed, 3 May 2000 22:37:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA20931; Wed, 03 May 2000 13:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05522; Wed, 03 May 2000 13:32:14 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA10638; Wed, 03 May 2000 13:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA17990; Wed, 03 May 2000 13:32:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10520; Wed, 03 May 2000 13:32:02 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA21012 for ; Wed, 03 May 2000 13:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 16:29:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Realtime/SA1110 In-reply-to: <005901bfb53a$ec151b00$2b0aa8c0@trakonic.com> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "J.R. MacArthur" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 May 2000, J.R. MacArthur wrote: > We are currently working on a port to the SA1110, are there any SA1100 Real > Time patches out there that we could apply to our SA1110 kernel? Not that I know of. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu May 4 11:01:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA13034; Thu, 4 May 2000 11:01:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09601 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 11:01:32 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU100E772EIA0@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 4 May 2000 11:01:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA07596; Thu, 04 May 2000 01:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00563; Thu, 04 May 2000 01:55:17 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA14719; Thu, 04 May 2000 01:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA31579; Thu, 04 May 2000 01:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29327; Thu, 04 May 2000 01:49:40 -0700 Received: from krdl.org.sg (rodin.krdl.org.sg [192.122.139.27]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id BAA07139 for ; Thu, 04 May 2000 01:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.krdl.org.sg (mailhost [192.122.134.30]) by krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11478; Thu, 04 May 2000 16:50:43 +0800 Received: from krdl.org.sg (QUNYING.krdl.org.sg [192.168.136.36]) by mailhost.krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12604; Thu, 04 May 2000 16:42:07 +0800 (SGT) Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 16:42:56 +0800 From: zhu qun ying Subject: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: arm , sa1100 , lart Message-id: <39113810.C4AA5C46@krdl.org.sg> Organization: KRDL MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail2.digital.com id BAA07139 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en Hi, While trying to figure out how StrongARM behave on cross boundary access,= I encounter the following error ( I have the kernel-mode alignment trap han= dler on and off with the same result). For comparisom, I have the same program co= mpile at x86 platform. The arm result is very strange. The behavior is realy unacceptable. It sh= ould either return run time error or some software emulation should return the correct result? I am using kernel 2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1. The kernel-mode alignment trap handler suppose to be able to catch this and return the co= rrect result, but it has no effect for this case. A kernel problem? A GCC problem? Any hints? =3D=3D=3D=3D x86 kk's starting address: 0x0xbffff86c i's address for kk + 0: 0x0xbffff86c 3 5 6 t i's address for kk + 1: 0x0xbffff86d 5 6 t g i's address for kk + 2: 0x0xbffff86e 6 t g h i's address for kk + 3: 0x0xbffff86f t g h n i's address for kk + 4: 0x0xbffff870 g h n o i's address for kk + 5: 0x0xbffff871 h n o r i's address for kk + 6: 0x0xbffff872 n o r q i's address for kk + 7: 0x0xbffff873 o r q i i's address for kk + 8: 0x0xbffff874 r q i p =3D=3D=3D SA1100 kk's starting address: 0x0xbffffd8c i's address for kk + 0: 0x0xbffffd8c 3 5 6 t i's address for kk + 1: 0x0xbffffd8d 5 6 t 3 i's address for kk + 2: 0x0xbffffd8e 6 t 3 5 i's address for kk + 3: 0x0xbffffd8f t 3 5 6 i's address for kk + 4: 0x0xbffffd90 g h n o i's address for kk + 5: 0x0xbffffd91 h n o g i's address for kk + 6: 0x0xbffffd92 n o g h i's address for kk + 7: 0x0xbffffd93 o g h n i's address for kk + 8: 0x0xbffffd94 r q i p The source code for this program: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D #include int main(void) { char kk[12] =3D {'3', '5', '6', 't', 'g', 'h', 'n', 'o', 'r', 'q', 'i', 'p'}; int *i; int y, j; =20 printf("kk's starting address: 0x%p\n", kk); for (j =3D 0; j < 9; ++j) { i =3D (int *)(kk + j); printf("i's address for kk + %d: 0x%p %c %c %c %c\n", j, i, (*i) & 0xFF, ((*i) >> 8) & 0xff, ((*i)>>16)&0xff, ((*i)>>24) & 0xff); } return 0; } =20 --=20 (~._.~) =D6=EC =C8=BA =D3=A2 (Qun Ying) (65) 874-6743 ( O ) Kent Ridge Digital Labs (KRDL) ()~*~() 21 Heng Mui Keng Terrace, Singapore 119613 (_)-(_) qyzhu@krdl.org.sg * zhuqy@hotmail.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu May 4 19:13:18 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA16733; Thu, 4 May 2000 19:13:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29272 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 19:13:16 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU1007LJP622B@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 4 May 2000 19:13:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA29571; Thu, 04 May 2000 10:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22492; Thu, 04 May 2000 10:07:34 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA17270; Thu, 04 May 2000 10:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA03255; Thu, 04 May 2000 10:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16750; Thu, 04 May 2000 10:06:02 -0700 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA29941 for ; Thu, 04 May 2000 10:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.168.32.2] ident=mail) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12nQ9F-0005As-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Thu, 04 May 2000 18:14:53 +0000 Received: from [192.168.33.3] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=mail) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12nP4Z-0000Aq-00; Thu, 04 May 2000 18:05:59 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=pb) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12nP4Y-0004N5-00; Thu, 04 May 2000 18:05:58 +0100 Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 18:05:58 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: Message from zhu qun ying "of Thu, 04 May 2000 16:42:56 +0800." <39113810.C4AA5C46@krdl.org.sg> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: zhu qun ying Cc: arm , sa1100 , lart Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <39113810.C4AA5C46@krdl.org.sg> In message <39113810.C4AA5C46@krdl.org.sg>, zhu qun ying writes: >The arm result is very strange. The behavior is realy unacceptable. >It should either return run time error or some software emulation should >return the correct result? No, your program is in error. You can't cast a pointer of arbitrary alignment to some other type and expect it to work. If you play these sorts of games you need to know the limitations of the machine. >The kernel-mode alignment trap handler suppose to be able to catch this >and return the correct result, Only for code inside the kernel. If your program is in user context the trap handler will have no effect. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu May 4 20:17:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA17138; Thu, 4 May 2000 20:17:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01005 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 20:17:15 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU100A41S4PFB@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 4 May 2000 20:17:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA22708; Thu, 04 May 2000 11:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26696; Thu, 04 May 2000 11:11:53 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA32096; Thu, 04 May 2000 11:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA08447; Thu, 04 May 2000 11:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06419; Thu, 04 May 2000 11:10:58 -0700 Received: from core.federated.com (core.federated.com [199.217.175.51]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA14845 for ; Thu, 04 May 2000 11:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jim@localhost) by core.federated.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-6) id NAA26296; Thu, 04 May 2000 13:09:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 13:09:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Studt Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: <39113810.C4AA5C46@krdl.org.sg> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: zhu qun ying Cc: arm , sa1100 , lart Message-id: <200005041809.NAA26296@core.federated.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Qun Ying wrote: > While trying to figure out how StrongARM behave on cross boundary access, I > encounter the following error ( I have the kernel-mode alignment trap handler on > and off with the same result). For comparisom, I have the same program compile > at x86 platform. > > The arm result is very strange. The behavior is realy unacceptable. It should > either return run time error or some software emulation should return the > correct result? I am using kernel 2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1. The kernel-mode > alignment trap handler suppose to be able to catch this and return the correct > result, but it has no effect for this case. > > A kernel problem? A GCC problem? Any hints? This is just the way ARMs work. Consult the documentation of the LDR instruction on page 36 (paper) 40 (PDF) of http://www.arm.com/Documentation/UserMans/PDF/ARM7vC.pdf It has a pretty diagram on the next couple of pages. In short you aren't allowed to read misaligned words, but if you do it has some useful quirks that might be helpful for unscrambling data. -- Jim Studt, President The Federated Software Group, Inc. 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From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 02:31:33 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA19452; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:31:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA08388 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:31:32 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU200MB79GHCK@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:31:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA00636; Thu, 04 May 2000 17:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11234; Thu, 04 May 2000 17:24:53 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA29208; Thu, 04 May 2000 17:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA01521; Thu, 04 May 2000 17:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25406; Thu, 04 May 2000 17:22:32 -0700 Received: from krdl.org.sg (rodin.krdl.org.sg [192.122.139.27]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id RAA14416 for ; Thu, 04 May 2000 17:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.krdl.org.sg (mailhost [192.122.134.30]) by krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05020; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:24:46 +0800 Received: from krdl.org.sg (QUNYING.krdl.org.sg [192.168.136.36]) by mailhost.krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01941; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:16:11 +0800 (SGT) Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 08:17:04 +0800 From: zhu qun ying Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Jim Studt Cc: arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: <39121300.90E714EC@krdl.org.sg> Organization: KRDL MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail2.digital.com id RAA14416 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <200005041809.NAA26296@core.federated.com> I know the limit of ARM, and I know that I can't cast arbitrary alignment= to some other type. I want to know why the kernel allow this operation inste= ad of issuing run time error, like illeagl operation/access, or emulating the behaviour using software. I used to port some program over to WINCE, and = that is a horrible experience, that kind of operation causes runtime error. Any advantage that allow this kind of operation? --=20 (~._.~) =D6=EC =C8=BA =D3=A2 (Qun Ying) (65) 874-6743 ( O ) Kent Ridge Digital Labs (KRDL) ()~*~() 21 Heng Mui Keng Terrace, Singapore 119613 (_)-(_) qyzhu@krdl.org.sg * zhuqy@hotmail.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 03:16:28 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id DAA19731; Fri, 5 May 2000 03:16:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08919 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 03:16:27 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU20007FBJC5K@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 03:16:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id SAA18080; Thu, 04 May 2000 18:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06730; Thu, 04 May 2000 18:11:16 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA07546; Thu, 04 May 2000 18:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA07423; Thu, 04 May 2000 18:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16356; Thu, 04 May 2000 18:10:55 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id SAA14048 for ; Thu, 04 May 2000 18:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00382; Thu, 04 May 2000 21:10:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 21:10:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: <39121300.90E714EC@krdl.org.sg> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: zhu qun ying Cc: Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk X-Authentication-warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs On Fri, 5 May 2000, zhu qun ying wrote: > I know the limit of ARM, and I know that I can't cast arbitrary alignment to > some other type. I want to know why the kernel allow this operation instead of > issuing run time error, like illeagl operation/access, or emulating the > behaviour using software. I used to port some program over to WINCE, and that is > a horrible experience, that kind of operation causes runtime error. Any > advantage that allow this kind of operation? If you look at linux/arch/arm/mm/fault-armv.c, line 134, you'll see the do_alignment() function. Few lines further you'll see: if (user_mode(regs)) { set_cr(cr_no_alignment); ai_user += 1; return 0; } This disables the alignment trap for user space code. See the documentation for the expected results... If you want the alignment trap handler to work on user space code as well as kernel code, just modify the above so it looks like: if (user_mode(regs)) { ai_user += 1; } Alternately, if you want to fix broken user space programs and kill them whenever a misaligned access occur, just use: if (user_mode(regs)) { ai_user += 1; return 1; } The above is based on linux-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 10:07:31 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA21968; Fri, 5 May 2000 10:07:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13910 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 10:07:29 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU2006BQUKENM@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 10:07:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA13521; Fri, 05 May 2000 01:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28291; Fri, 05 May 2000 00:58:06 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA11877; Fri, 05 May 2000 00:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA10965; Fri, 05 May 2000 00:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12845; Fri, 05 May 2000 00:52:32 -0700 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (p45-magpie-gui.tch.enablis.net [194.168.180.45]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id AAA12232 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 00:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flint.arm.linux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA31436; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:34:59 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA24826; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:28:42 +0100 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 08:28:41 +0100 (BST) From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: <39121300.90E714EC@krdl.org.sg> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: qyzhu@krdl.org.sg (zhu qun ying) Cc: jim@federated.com (Jim Studt), linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk (arm), sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com (sa1100), lart@lart.tudelft.nl (lart), pb@labs.futuretv.com (Philip Blundell) Message-id: <200005050728.IAA24826@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk zhu qun ying writes: > I know the limit of ARM, and I know that I can't cast arbitrary alignment to > some other type. I want to know why the kernel allow this operation instead of > issuing run time error, like illeagl operation/access, or emulating the > behaviour using software. I used to port some program over to WINCE, and that is > a horrible experience, that kind of operation causes runtime error. Any > advantage that allow this kind of operation? For the past 13 years that the ARM architecture has been around, the behaviour of unaligned loads is something that was 100% defined to happen, and that the compiler can rely on to optimise its code. If you start causing user-mode runtime errors for these cases, then you will effectively prevent any program which has not been compiled with the appropriate flags to fail in perhaps undetectable ways (eg, if you compile up a program with a compiler that does not generate half-word instructions). There are a fair number of machines out there that use the StrongARM, but are not able to use the half-word instructions, or don't use the StrongARM at all that would be adversely affected by this. Basically to maintain consistent behaviour across all current machines, we ignore user-mode unaligned accesses. It's just not worth the hastle. Make sure your programs follow the appropriate C standards, and you won't have a problem. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 10:07:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA21972; Fri, 5 May 2000 10:07:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13914 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 10:07:32 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU2006KCUKIUE@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 10:07:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA13349; Fri, 05 May 2000 01:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25864; Fri, 05 May 2000 00:58:06 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA07834; Fri, 05 May 2000 00:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA24955; Fri, 05 May 2000 00:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08630; Fri, 05 May 2000 00:53:03 -0700 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (p45-magpie-gui.tch.enablis.net [194.168.180.45]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id AAA13123 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 00:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flint.arm.linux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA31450; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:37:11 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA24847; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:30:53 +0100 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 08:30:53 +0100 (BST) From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG (Nicolas Pitre) Cc: qyzhu@krdl.org.sg (zhu qun ying), jim@federated.com (Jim Studt), linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk (arm), sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com (sa1100), lart@lart.tudelft.nl (lart), pb@labs.futuretv.com (Philip Blundell) Message-id: <200005050730.IAA24847@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Nicolas Pitre writes: > If you want the alignment trap handler to work on user space code as well > as kernel code, just modify the above so it looks like: > > if (user_mode(regs)) { > ai_user += 1; > } Either case is not good. (see previous mails). It's best left as-is and the program must follow the C alignment rules to have expected behaviour. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 12:15:45 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id MAA22747; Fri, 5 May 2000 12:15:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16057 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 12:15:42 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300BMU0I3H2@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 12:15:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id DAA21247; Fri, 05 May 2000 03:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10261; Fri, 05 May 2000 03:10:19 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA13340; Fri, 05 May 2000 03:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA28891; Fri, 05 May 2000 03:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22290; Fri, 05 May 2000 03:10:01 -0700 Received: from br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au (br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.64.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id DAA20323 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 03:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onthenet.com.au (CPE-24-192-86-254.qld.bigpond.net.au [24.192.86.254]) by br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA03202; Fri, 05 May 2000 20:06:22 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 20:06:02 +1000 From: David Bath Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: <39129D0A.7769C59C@onthenet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i586) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <200005050730.IAA24847@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Nicolas Pitre writes: > > If you want the alignment trap handler to work on user space code as well > > as kernel code, just modify the above so it looks like: > > > > if (user_mode(regs)) { > > ai_user += 1; > > } > > Either case is not good. (see previous mails). It's best left as-is and > the program must follow the C alignment rules to have expected behaviour. While I agree with your "if it hurts don't do it" policy, life is all too often about porting existing old code rather than writing new code, and old code from x86 and 68K worlds has definitely been known to be sloppy in this area. It seems there are two classes of programs, those that have been optimised by the ARM compiler to take advantage of this well defined behaviour and don't want exceptions or fixups, and those sloppy programs being ported from other platforms that expect more "traditional" behaviour, and desperately need exceptions or fixups. I would imagine debugging the latter on an ARM/Linux platform that produces no exception would be very unpleasant. How feasible would it be to make this run-time configurable, on a per-process basis (perhaps by use of the /proc filesystem) ? dB. From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 12:15:40 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id MAA22743; Fri, 5 May 2000 12:15:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16050 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 12:15:38 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300C700I04B@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 12:15:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id DAA21117; Fri, 05 May 2000 03:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16292; Fri, 05 May 2000 03:10:19 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA00927; Fri, 05 May 2000 03:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA17075; Fri, 05 May 2000 03:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05650; Fri, 05 May 2000 03:07:49 -0700 Received: from mail.linuxgrrls.org ([62.6.164.226]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id DAA20953 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 03:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.linuxgrrls.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E6374954; Fri, 05 May 2000 11:07:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 11:07:29 +0100 (BST) From: Kira Brown Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: <200005050728.IAA24826@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 May 2000, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > There are a fair number of machines out there that use the StrongARM, but > are not able to use the half-word instructions, or don't use the StrongARM > at all that would be adversely affected by this. The only ones I know of are the Medusa architecture machines; is it really worth worrying about them? They're obsolete and becoming increasingly rare. kira. From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 16:35:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA24280; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:35:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20826 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:35:49 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300JE9CJMDC@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:35:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA04873; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26128; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:30:38 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA13271; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA14302; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30086; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:30:12 -0700 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (p31-magpie-gui.tch.enablis.net [194.168.180.31]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA10611 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk (root@raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00777; Fri, 05 May 2000 13:10:48 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id NAA00877; Fri, 05 May 2000 13:10:11 +0100 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 13:10:10 +0100 (BST) From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: kira@linuxgrrls.org (Kira Brown) Cc: qyzhu@krdl.org.sg (zhu qun ying), jim@federated.com (Jim Studt), linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk (arm), sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com (sa1100), lart@lart.tudelft.nl (lart), pb@labs.futuretv.com (Philip Blundell) Message-id: <200005051210.NAA00877@raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Kira Brown writes: > On Fri, 5 May 2000, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > > There are a fair number of machines out there that use the StrongARM, but > > are not able to use the half-word instructions, or don't use the StrongARM > > at all that would be adversely affected by this. > > The only ones I know of are the Medusa architecture machines; is it really > worth worrying about them? They're obsolete and becoming increasingly > rare. Try any ARM based machine which does not support V4 architecture - ie, ARM6 cores and some, if not most ARM7 cores. It's far wider than just Medusa. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 16:36:22 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA24288; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:36:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20853 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:36:20 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300JELCKIDC@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:36:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA04867; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23642; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:31:14 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA27696; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA20817; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25837; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:31:05 -0700 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (p31-magpie-gui.tch.enablis.net [194.168.180.31]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA01915 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk (root@raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00811; Fri, 05 May 2000 13:25:41 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id NAA00916; Fri, 05 May 2000 13:25:04 +0100 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 13:25:03 +0100 (BST) From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: <39129D0A.7769C59C@onthenet.com.au> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: dbath@onthenet.com.au (David Bath) Cc: nico@CAM.ORG (Nicolas Pitre), qyzhu@krdl.org.sg (zhu qun ying), jim@federated.com (Jim Studt), linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk (arm), sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com (sa1100), lart@lart.tudelft.nl (lart), pb@labs.futuretv.com (Philip Blundell) Message-id: <200005051225.NAA00916@raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk David Bath writes: > While I agree with your "if it hurts don't do it" policy, life is all too > often about porting existing old code rather than writing new code, and old > code from x86 and 68K worlds has definitely been known to be sloppy in this > area. I wasn't talking about an "if it hurts". It doesn't hurt - it breaks. > It seems there are two classes of programs, those that have been optimised by > the ARM compiler to take advantage of this well defined behaviour and don't > want exceptions or fixups, and those sloppy programs being ported from other > platforms that expect more "traditional" behaviour, and desperately need > exceptions or fixups. I would imagine debugging the latter on an ARM/Linux > platform that produces no exception would be very unpleasant. This is an old topic of discussion - please read the mailing list archives for the results of the previous discussions. The problem here is: 1. without the user-mode exception handler Sloppily written programs aren't flagged with an obvious warning message. Correctly written, binary compatible programs across the whole range of ARM processors will run as expected. 2. with the user-mode exception handler Sloppily written programs are flagged with a warning message. Correctly written, binary compatible programs will fail, maybe in unpredicatable ways. Ok, so you choose option 2, and suddenly your currently running processes die. That is extremely unpleasant. So, you make it per-process selectable. So long as you get the right compiler options, all well and good - you enable the user-mode alignment trap. But if you get the options wrong? You either end up with either case (1) or (2) for that particular program. Most packages are built using a standard set of options, and therefore these problems may not be detected. It depends really on the setup of the binutils, and whether binutils can be teached to "do the right thing" automagically. Really, it can't do because you've got this thing called the C library which will be an unknown quantity. No, there are just too many variables here - binutils, glibc, compiler options, hardware platform. All have to be exactly right, or else all hell can break loose. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 15:54:19 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA24003; Fri, 5 May 2000 15:54:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19967 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 15:54:17 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300HPAAMEK4@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 15:54:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA05802; Fri, 05 May 2000 06:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10500; Fri, 05 May 2000 06:48:43 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA24886; Fri, 05 May 2000 06:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA19291; Fri, 05 May 2000 06:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17674; Fri, 05 May 2000 06:47:40 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA01878 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 06:47:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 09:44:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: <200005050730.IAA24847@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 May 2000, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Nicolas Pitre writes: > > If you want the alignment trap handler to work on user space code as well > > as kernel code, just modify the above so it looks like: > > > > if (user_mode(regs)) { > > ai_user += 1; > > } > > Either case is not good. (see previous mails). It's best left as-is and > the program must follow the C alignment rules to have expected behaviour. The idea is to debug misbehaving code. Generating a SIGBUS is really nice to quickly spot where are the alignment abuses. This is not intended for mainstream kernels. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 16:45:22 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA24362; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:45:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21043 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:45:20 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300KANCZH05@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:45:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA06537; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19582; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:40:13 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA00061; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA08368; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17679; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:40:03 -0700 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (p31-magpie-gui.tch.enablis.net [194.168.180.31]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA06180 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk (root@raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01327; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:39:43 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id PAA01310; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:39:06 +0100 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 15:39:06 +0100 (BST) From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG (Nicolas Pitre) Cc: qyzhu@krdl.org.sg (zhu qun ying), jim@federated.com (Jim Studt), linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk (arm), sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com (sa1100), lart@lart.tudelft.nl (lart), pb@labs.futuretv.com (Philip Blundell) Message-id: <200005051439.PAA01310@raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Nicolas Pitre writes: > The idea is to debug misbehaving code. Generating a SIGBUS is really nice > to quickly spot where are the alignment abuses. This is not intended for > mainstream kernels. In that case, what about hiding it under the kernel hacking options, so that it can only be enabled when EXPERIMENTAL is also turned on? Of course, it will have to display a message so when people complain that they're having problems its obvious why... _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 17:35:05 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA24680; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:35:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21877 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:35:03 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300L9VFACJH@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:35:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA16080; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29477; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:29:55 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA05379; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA00865; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30155; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:29:47 -0700 Received: from kei.netwinder.org (netwinder.org [207.245.35.202]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA10731 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netwinder.org ([10.1.19.121]) by kei.netwinder.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20728; Fri, 05 May 2000 11:29:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 11:24:41 -0400 From: Scott Bambrough Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: <3912E7B9.F5A4FFD0@netwinder.org> Organization: Rebel.com MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <200005051439.PAA01310@raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > > Nicolas Pitre writes: > > The idea is to debug misbehaving code. Generating a SIGBUS is really nice > > to quickly spot where are the alignment abuses. This is not intended for > > mainstream kernels. > > In that case, what about hiding it under the kernel hacking options, so that > it can only be enabled when EXPERIMENTAL is also turned on? Of course, it > will have to display a message so when people complain that they're having > problems its obvious why... I like this idea myself. Scott -- Scott Bambrough - Software Engineer REBEL.COM http://www.rebel.com NetWinder http://www.netwinder.org From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 17:34:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA24667; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:34:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21862 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:34:05 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300L8LF8RJH@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:34:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA08389; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06267; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:28:29 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA16024; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA01456; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08639; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:26:39 -0700 Received: from mail.linuxgrrls.org ([62.6.164.226]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA10922 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.linuxgrrls.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B936874954; Fri, 05 May 2000 16:26:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 16:26:15 +0100 (BST) From: Kira Brown Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: <200005051210.NAA00877@raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 May 2000, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > > The only ones I know of are the Medusa architecture machines; is it really > > worth worrying about them? They're obsolete and becoming increasingly > > rare. > > Try any ARM based machine which does not support V4 architecture - ie, ARM6 > cores and some, if not most ARM7 cores. It's far wider than just Medusa. Yes, I know, but we were talking about StrongARM. The ability to compile kernels specific to your processor is one of the advantages of Linux... can't we have this as an optional feature in StrongARM kernels? kira. From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 17:44:30 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA24745; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:44:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22060 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:44:28 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300LDPFQ2WI@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:44:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA11950; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25134; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:39:22 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA01282; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA05574; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12379; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:39:04 -0700 Received: from ims.crl.dec.com (ims.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.11]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id LAA09080; Fri, 05 May 2000 11:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ims.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 05 May 2000 11:43:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 11:39:26 -0400 From: George France Subject: RE: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Scott Bambrough'" , Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hello Scott; Even though I like the idea, at this time the ARM linux is mostly used by researchers and other highly technical people. I think that in the future, this will not be true. Do we really want to give the less experenced users, the means to shoot themselves?? --George George France, france@crl.dec.com Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation One Kendall Square, Building 700 MS: CRL Cambridge, MA 02139 USA -----Original Message----- From: Scott Bambrough [mailto:scottb@netwinder.org] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 11:25 AM To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: Nicolas Pitre; zhu qun ying; Jim Studt; arm; sa1100; lart; Philip Blundell Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > > Nicolas Pitre writes: > > The idea is to debug misbehaving code. Generating a SIGBUS is really nice > > to quickly spot where are the alignment abuses. This is not intended for > > mainstream kernels. > > In that case, what about hiding it under the kernel hacking options, so that > it can only be enabled when EXPERIMENTAL is also turned on? Of course, it > will have to display a message so when people complain that they're having > problems its obvious why... I like this idea myself. Scott -- Scott Bambrough - Software Engineer REBEL.COM http://www.rebel.com NetWinder http://www.netwinder.org From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 17:56:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA24820; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:56:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22229 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:56:52 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300LL3GAQJH@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:56:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA12927; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19165; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:51:44 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA13417; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA08701; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13639; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:51:30 -0700 Received: from kei.netwinder.org (netwinder.org [207.245.35.202]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA13203 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 08:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netwinder.org ([10.1.19.121]) by kei.netwinder.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20896; Fri, 05 May 2000 11:50:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 11:45:31 -0400 From: Scott Bambrough Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: George France Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: <3912EC9B.DB66987B@netwinder.org> Organization: Rebel.com MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: George France wrote: > Even though I like the idea, at this time the ARM linux is mostly used by > researchers and other highly technical people. I think that in the future, > this will not be true. Do we really want to give the less experenced users, > the means to shoot themselves?? > > > it can only be enabled when EXPERIMENTAL is also turned on? Of course, it > > will have to display a message so when people complain that they're having > > problems its obvious why... If a inexperienced user is going to play with the kernel, and use experimental features, they deserve what they get. We only provide the gun, we don't make them use it. I think if it is documented correctly, it should be ok. Scott -- Scott Bambrough - Software Engineer REBEL.COM http://www.rebel.com NetWinder http://www.netwinder.org From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 18:07:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA24900; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:07:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22411 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:07:56 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300M8TGT5KM@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:07:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA17106; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05293; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:02:41 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA29645; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA10348; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21720; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:02:28 -0700 Received: from micros.micros.com (micros.micros.com [63.75.30.3]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id JAA13291 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usmail.micros.com (usmail.micros.com [172.28.196.60]) by micros.micros.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/micros-2.1) with ESMTP id LAA04229; Fri, 05 May 2000 11:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SATCH2 ([206.241.199.116]) by usmail.micros.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KJMXB9H2; Fri, 05 May 2000 11:54:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 11:58:03 -0400 From: brad more Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: George France , "'Scott Bambrough'" , Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: <003601bfb6aa$b73877d0$74c7f1ce@ft.micros.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk References: > Do we really want to give the less experenced users, the means to shoot themselves?? Speaking for the "less experienced" users ... Yes. We'd prefer you didn't attempt to "protect" us. By the way, some of us are actaully "highly technical" too... r/Brad From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 18:13:33 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA24945; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:13:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22623 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:13:31 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300M37H2HYH@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:13:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA12937; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10573; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:08:24 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA31954; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA27915; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22373; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:08:13 -0700 Received: from ims.crl.dec.com (ims.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.11]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id MAA06428; Fri, 05 May 2000 12:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ims.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 05 May 2000 12:12:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 12:08:26 -0400 From: George France Subject: RE: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Scott Bambrough'" , George France Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Scott Bambrough [mailto:scottb@netwinder.org] writes: >If a inexperienced user is going to play with the kernel, and use experimental >features, they deserve what they get. We only provide the gun, we don't make >them use it. I think if it is documented correctly, it should be ok. If our tone and attitude is going to be 'caveat emptor' then I agree with you fully. I was more thinking about the mailing list and the extra traffic that will be generated from people using the gun. It is not only the user that will suffer from the gun, but developers on the mailing list having to answer the same questions over and over and over and over again. --George From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 18:22:21 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA24995; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:22:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22762 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:22:19 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300MHIHH5KM@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:22:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA15250; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31482; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:17:13 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA19696; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA26395; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21044; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:17:04 -0700 Received: from lhs.com (lnsmtpbos00.lhs.com [208.162.98.43]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA18670 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lhs.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id 852568D6.005A174B ; Fri, 05 May 2000 12:24:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 12:15:06 -0400 From: ebunce@lhsl.com Subject: RE: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: George France Cc: "'Scott Bambrough'" , George France , Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: <852568D6.005A1543.00@lhs.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk X-Lotus-FromDomain: LHS > Scott Bambrough [mailto:scottb@netwinder.org] writes: > >>If a inexperienced user is going to play with the kernel, and use experimental >>features, they deserve what they get. We only provide the gun, we don't make >>them use it. I think if it is documented correctly, it should be ok. > >If our tone and attitude is going to be 'caveat emptor' then I agree with >you fully. I was more thinking about the mailing list and the extra traffic >that will be generated from people using the gun. It is not only the user >that will suffer from the gun, but developers on the mailing list having to >answer the same questions over and over and over and over again. The same could be said about a good half the experimental features. The one addition I'd make is From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 18:49:15 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA25176; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:49:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23203 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:49:13 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300MN5IPZZ4@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:49:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA14130; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23768; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:43:28 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA18953; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA19646; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06715; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:41:31 -0700 Received: from lhs.com (lnsmtpbos00.lhs.com [208.162.98.43]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA19765 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lhs.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id 852568D6.005C5244 ; Fri, 05 May 2000 12:48:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 12:39:31 -0400 From: ebunce@lhsl.com Subject: RE: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: George France Cc: "'Scott Bambrough'" , George France , Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: <852568D6.005C5104.00@lhs.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk X-Lotus-FromDomain: LHS George France wrote: > Scott Bambrough [mailto:scottb@netwinder.org] writes: > >>If a inexperienced user is going to play with the kernel, and use experimental >>features, they deserve what they get. We only provide the gun, we don't make >>them use it. I think if it is documented correctly, it should be ok. > >If our tone and attitude is going to be 'caveat emptor' then I agree with >you fully. I was more thinking about the mailing list and the extra traffic >that will be generated from people using the gun. It is not only the user >that will suffer from the gun, but developers on the mailing list having to >answer the same questions over and over and over and over again. The same could be said about a good half the Experimental features. If such an the option was put into the kernel, I'd mark it as "(Testing Purposes Only)" and put it under either the "Kernel Hacking" section or something similar. I'd also place the appropriate description explaining it's use in the documentation used by the configuration software. It would be easier than having to explain to moderately experienced users how to modify the kernel source in order to perform that type of testing. If it's clearly marked, than it's not even a matter of 'caveat emptor', it's more on the order of "you've been warned". If someone chooses that option after being warned they deserve what they get. Erik Bunce From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 19:02:28 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA25256; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:02:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA23388 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:02:26 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU30002YJBZXO@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:02:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA19415; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18763; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:57:19 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA15808; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA26519; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12066; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:56:56 -0700 Received: from kei.netwinder.org (netwinder.org [207.245.35.202]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id JAA19409 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 09:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netwinder.org ([10.1.19.121]) by kei.netwinder.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21392; Fri, 05 May 2000 12:56:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 12:51:59 -0400 From: Scott Bambrough Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: George France Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: <3912FC2F.168CD3F4@netwinder.org> Organization: Rebel.com MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: George France wrote: > > If our tone and attitude is going to be 'caveat emptor' then I agree with > you fully. I was more thinking about the mailing list and the extra traffic > that will be generated from people using the gun. It is not only the user > that will suffer from the gun, but developers on the mailing list having to > answer the same questions over and over and over and over again. Don't get me wrong here. I don't think our tone and attitude should be "caveat emptor", but if it is under experimental that is implied (at least that is the way I look at it). If it wasn't under experimental I would adopt an attitude very similar to yours. Scott -- Scott Bambrough - Software Engineer REBEL.COM http://www.rebel.com NetWinder http://www.netwinder.org From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 19:08:39 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA25303; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:08:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA23499 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:08:36 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU300065JMAXO@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:08:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA19909; Fri, 05 May 2000 10:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05718; Fri, 05 May 2000 10:03:30 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA00777; Fri, 05 May 2000 10:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA18210; Fri, 05 May 2000 10:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05911; Fri, 05 May 2000 10:03:14 -0700 Received: from kei.netwinder.org (netwinder.org [207.245.35.202]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA15844 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 10:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netwinder.org ([10.1.19.121]) by kei.netwinder.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21497; Fri, 05 May 2000 13:03:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 12:58:15 -0400 From: Scott Bambrough Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: ebunce@lhsl.com Cc: George France , Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: <3912FDA7.46B621EF@netwinder.org> Organization: Rebel.com MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <852568D6.005C5104.00@lhs.com> ebunce@lhsl.com wrote: > > If such an the option was put into the kernel, I'd mark it as > "(Testing Purposes Only)" and put it under either the > "Kernel Hacking" section or something similar. I'd also place the appropriate > description explaining it's use in the documentation used by the configuration > software. Err, I was operating under the assumption that it would be added to the 'Kernel Hacking' menu. I don't advocate putting it anywhere else. Sorry if that was what everyone thought. Scott -- Scott Bambrough - Software Engineer REBEL.COM http://www.rebel.com NetWinder http://www.netwinder.org From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 5 19:09:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA25309; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:09:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA23508 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:09:05 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU30008GJN3T6@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:09:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA19692; Fri, 05 May 2000 10:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08928; Fri, 05 May 2000 10:03:58 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA16427; Fri, 05 May 2000 10:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA31416; Fri, 05 May 2000 10:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09404; Fri, 05 May 2000 10:03:49 -0700 Received: from crlwebmail.crl.dec.com (crlwebmail.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.2]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id NAA10483; Fri, 05 May 2000 13:03:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crlwebmail.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 05 May 2000 13:07:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 13:04:16 -0400 From: George France Subject: RE: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: "'Scott Bambrough'" , George France Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Scott Bambrough [mailto:scottb@netwinder.org] wrote: >Don't get me wrong here. I don't think our tone and attitude should be "caveat >emptor", but if it is under experimental that is implied (at least that is the >way I look at it). If it wasn't under experimental I would adopt an attitude >very similar to yours. Hello Scott; I do not mind experimental code, in odd numbered kernels, in fact I encourage it. I am just questioning adding experimental stuff that will end up in 2.4.0. I would full support almost any experimental code into 2.5.0. In this way the main stream users on the stable version do not have the gun, beta users on the other hand can take their chances. The added benefit is that the developers on the mailing list only have to answer questions from the beta users, not the public at large. I am sorry if I was not more clear before. --George George France, france@crl.dec.com Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation One Kendall Square, Building 700 MS: CRL Cambridge, MA 02139 USA From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat May 6 00:07:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA27016; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:07:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA28082 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:07:54 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU3007FYXH3LV@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:07:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA10096; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09733; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:02:30 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA01886; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA22091; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18157; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:01:31 -0700 Received: from br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au (br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.64.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA10708 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onthenet.com.au (CPE-24-192-86-254.qld.bigpond.net.au [24.192.86.254]) by br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id HAA19780; Sat, 06 May 2000 07:58:36 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 07:58:18 +1000 From: David Bath Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: <391343FA.3A7B3D49@onthenet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i586) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <200005051439.PAA01310@raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Nicolas Pitre writes: > > The idea is to debug misbehaving code. Generating a SIGBUS is really nice > > to quickly spot where are the alignment abuses. This is not intended for > > mainstream kernels. > > In that case, what about hiding it under the kernel hacking options, so that > it can only be enabled when EXPERIMENTAL is also turned on? Of course, it > will have to display a message so when people complain that they're having > problems its obvious why... So, if we now all accept that there is a time when experienced users (namely those attempting to port poorly written x86 Linux apps to ARM) will want to turn user level exceptions on, it seems only a small step (conceptually, if not technically) to allow them to turn it on at runtime. It seems a bit excessive making them rebuild their kernel just so they can debug some poorly written user level code, and then reboot their original kernel so they can continue to run their correctly written ARM code. There's plenty of precedence with Linux for controlling experimental /diagnostic stuff at runtime. For example... echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies if I want SYN cookie protection echo "scsi log token [level]" > /proc/scsi/scsi if I want scsi logging enabled echo "0 0 0 y y y - y - 10 " >/proc/scsi/tmscsim/0 if I want to try out tagged queuing on a scsi device If I've just copied a source tar file down from somewhere, typed "make", had a clean build, and then had it crash or behave very strangely, it would be very useful to be able to do something like... echo "usr-fixup" /proc/..... [to enable user level fixups] run it again, and see if it works. If it does work, I could then do a echo "usr-sigbus" /proc/.... [to enable user level exceptions] run it again, and gather all the info I need to work out how to fix it from SIGBUS crash details. Fix it, rebuild, and then echo "usr-none" /proc/.... [to return to no user level intervention] run it again, notice it works, and declare victory. If you believe that ARM-Linux will only ever be used in a single-user environment then this is probably sufficient. If you think one day a corporate server with 100 users might one day be running on ARM-Linux then you might want to make the above work on a per-process basis. I might be trying to debug my sloppy x86 code while 99 other users are trying to run their correctly written ARM code. dB. From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat May 6 00:11:26 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA27042; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:11:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA28177 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:11:24 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU3007PSXMW31@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:11:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA07200; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19928; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:05:44 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA21453; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA31821; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28980; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:05:36 -0700 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (p60-robin-gui.tch.enablis.net [194.168.180.120]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA12893 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk (root@raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA00997; Fri, 05 May 2000 23:05:09 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA03152; Fri, 05 May 2000 23:04:27 +0100 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 23:04:26 +0100 (BST) From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: <391343FA.3A7B3D49@onthenet.com.au> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: dbath@onthenet.com.au (David Bath) Cc: nico@CAM.ORG (Nicolas Pitre), qyzhu@krdl.org.sg (zhu qun ying), jim@federated.com (Jim Studt), linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk (arm), sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com (sa1100), lart@lart.tudelft.nl (lart), pb@labs.futuretv.com (Philip Blundell) Message-id: <200005052204.XAA03152@raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk David Bath writes: > So, if we now all accept that there is a time when experienced users (namely > those attempting to port poorly written x86 Linux apps to ARM) will want to > turn user level exceptions on, it seems only a small step (conceptually, if not > technically) to allow them to turn it on at runtime. And then its all too easy for it to be turned on permanently. No, that is not something we want, especially when we end up with users complaining. > If you believe that ARM-Linux will only ever be used in a single-user > environment then this is probably sufficient. If you think one day a corporate > server with 100 users might one day be running on ARM-Linux then you might want > to make the above work on a per-process basis. I might be trying to debug my > sloppy x86 code while 99 other users are trying to run their correctly written > ARM code. But then a decent sysadmin of the corporate server would never let you near to debug your program. He'd want to lock it down as tightly as possible to prevent misuse/hacking/etc, which, if you're talking about a distribution-only box will probably mean no C compiler either. (If you need the machine to stay up, you should only be running tried and tested programs on it). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat May 6 00:50:31 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA27264; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:50:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA28803 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:50:30 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU30097VZG42S@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:50:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA12910; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13520; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:44:58 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA07618; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA05926; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29733; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:44:06 -0700 Received: from br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au (br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.64.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA12478 for ; Fri, 05 May 2000 15:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onthenet.com.au (CPE-24-192-86-254.qld.bigpond.net.au [24.192.86.254]) by br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA07628; Sat, 06 May 2000 08:41:11 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 08:40:53 +1000 From: David Bath Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart , Philip Blundell Message-id: <39134DF5.FC8B1A5C@onthenet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i586) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <200005052204.XAA03152@raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > David Bath writes: > > So, if we now all accept that there is a time when experienced users (namely > > those attempting to port poorly written x86 Linux apps to ARM) will want to > > turn user level exceptions on, it seems only a small step (conceptually, if not > > technically) to allow them to turn it on at runtime. > > And then its all too easy for it to be turned on permanently. No, that is not > something we want, especially when we end up with users complaining. Hadn't we agreed we were going to let them turn it on at kernel config time? Turning it on at config time seems to have more potential for permanence then controlling it at runtime. If it's a config time option you need to reboot your machine again to turn it off. If it's a runtime option, then it's much easier to turn it off again. > But then a decent sysadmin of the corporate server would never let you near to > debug your program. I think that depends on what business the corporation is in. Do a 'top' on some big corporate servers at s/w companies like Sun or Cisco and you'll see dozens of people running cc on big thumping SMP servers. Clearly you wouldn't want one of those users to be able to influence user-level exception handling for other users, hence the need to be able to control your own destiny, on a per-process basis. dB. From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun May 7 12:56:44 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id MAA07543; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:56:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15777 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:56:43 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU600DEHRQGGV@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:56:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id DAA28240; Sun, 07 May 2000 03:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05930; Sun, 07 May 2000 03:48:27 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA16621; Sun, 07 May 2000 03:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA12958; Sun, 07 May 2000 03:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25088; Sun, 07 May 2000 03:43:04 -0700 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id DAA00360 for ; Sun, 07 May 2000 03:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 12oEsD-0002ou-00; Sun, 07 May 2000 01:24:41 +0100 Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 01:24:41 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: Message from David Bath "of Sat, 06 May 2000 07:58:18 +1000." <391343FA.3A7B3D49@onthenet.com.au> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: David Bath Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <200005051439.PAA01310@raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk> <391343FA.3A7B3D49@onthenet.com.au> >clean build, and then had it crash or behave very strangely, it would be very >useful to be able to do something like... > >echo "usr-fixup" /proc/..... [to enable user level fixups] > >run it again, and see if it works. If it does work, I could then do a > >echo "usr-sigbus" /proc/.... [to enable user level >exceptions] > >run it again, and gather all the info I need to work out how to fix it from >SIGBUS crash details. Fix it, rebuild, and then Both of these solutions are pretty poor because they carry the risk of breaking already-running programs. If your shell was compiled with -march=armv3, for example, enabling either fixups or exceptions for unaligned accesses might well leave you with an unusable machine. (The default for GCC is -march=armv3.) >you might want to make the above work on a per-process basis. Yes. I guess you could conceive of a bit in the program header that says "this program shouldn't be doing unaligned accesses" and caused them to be trapped. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun May 7 13:21:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id NAA07674; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:21:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15947 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:21:12 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU600DJNSV9FK@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:21:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id EAA04257; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14587; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:13:25 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA12740; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA16174; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19807; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:11:47 -0700 Received: from br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au (br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.64.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id EAA15713 for ; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onthenet.com.au (CPE-24-192-86-254.qld.bigpond.net.au [24.192.86.254]) by br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA19994; Sun, 07 May 2000 21:08:05 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 21:07:47 +1000 From: David Bath Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip Blundell Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart Message-id: <39154E83.8EBA5DD2@onthenet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i586) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <200005051439.PAA01310@raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk> <391343FA.3A7B3D49@onthenet.com.au> Philip Blundell wrote: > >you might want to make the above work on a per-process basis. > > Yes. I guess you could conceive of a bit in the program header that says > "this program shouldn't be doing unaligned accesses" and caused them to be > trapped. hmmm... maybe we could just add a system call to enable it. Then the first thing you could do when porting some code that doesn't seem to work right, is enable the exception handler on the first line. Then you could use the exception to locate and fix the real bug, and then remove the fist line you added. dB. From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun May 7 13:52:12 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id NAA07849; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:52:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16259 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:52:11 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU600E4RUAXPF@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:52:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id EAA06951; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29206; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:44:25 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA04579; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA25688; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17467; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:42:39 -0700 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (p48-robin-gui.tch.enablis.net [194.168.180.108]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id EAA18343 for ; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flint.arm.linux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07248; Sun, 07 May 2000 12:41:35 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09205; Sun, 07 May 2000 12:40:49 +0100 Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 12:40:48 +0100 (BST) From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: <39154E83.8EBA5DD2@onthenet.com.au> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: dbath@onthenet.com.au (David Bath) Cc: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell), nico@CAM.ORG (Nicolas Pitre), qyzhu@krdl.org.sg (zhu qun ying), jim@federated.com (Jim Studt), linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk (arm), sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com (sa1100), lart@lart.tudelft.nl (lart) Message-id: <200005071140.MAA09205@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk David Bath writes: > hmmm... maybe we could just add a system call to enable it. Then the first thing > you could do when porting some code that doesn't seem to work right, is enable the > exception handler on the first line. Then you could use the exception to locate > and fix the real bug, and then remove the fist line you added. No. Phil's point is more or less the same as one of the points I've been trying to make. If all your binaries are compiled up so that they rely on unaligned accesses, and you turn on the SIGBUS, suddenly every process on your system receives SIGBUS when it next runs, leaving you with zero processes, and therefore an unusable system. I did make the suggestion of using the compiler to indicate this, but then dismissed this as a solution because it is not a "binary" thing. It can only be turned on if your binary, your dynamic linker and your libraries are compiled up so they don't use unaligned accesses. IMHO, this is a deep complicated issue which needs a lot of further discussion. Until all the issues are resolved, I don't think we can even start to consider putting this in for 2.4. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun May 7 14:01:41 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA07915; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:01:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16377 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:01:40 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU600EFBUQQ8F@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:01:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id EAA18781; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24725; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:53:54 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA27516; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA23244; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04178; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:52:21 -0700 Received: from br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au (br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.64.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id EAA18579 for ; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onthenet.com.au (CPE-24-192-86-254.qld.bigpond.net.au [24.192.86.254]) by br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA05382; Sun, 07 May 2000 21:49:22 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 21:49:03 +1000 From: David Bath Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: Philip Blundell , Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart Message-id: <3915582E.2EF664CE@onthenet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i586) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <200005071140.MAA09205@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > David Bath writes: > > hmmm... maybe we could just add a system call to enable it. Then the first thing > > you could do when porting some code that doesn't seem to work right, is enable the > > exception handler on the first line. Then you could use the exception to locate > > and fix the real bug, and then remove the fist line you added. > > No. Phil's point is more or less the same as one of the points I've been trying to > make. > > If all your binaries are compiled up so that they rely on unaligned accesses, and > you turn on the SIGBUS, suddenly every process on your system receives SIGBUS when > it next runs, leaving you with zero processes, and therefore an unusable system. Actually, I meant for the system call to only turn on exception handling for the process that issued the system call, not for everybody. > It can only be turned on if > your binary, your dynamic linker and your libraries are compiled up so they don't > use unaligned accesses. Yes, dynamic libraries to complicate things. > IMHO, this is a deep complicated issue which needs a lot of further discussion. > Until all the issues are resolved, I don't think we can even start to consider > putting this in for 2.4. Yep, there do seem to be a lot of gotcha's. dB. From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun May 7 14:06:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA07941; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:06:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16434 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:06:06 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU600F08UY48D@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:06:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id EAA19329; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23008; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:58:20 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA18603; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA14243; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09025; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:56:45 -0700 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (p48-robin-gui.tch.enablis.net [194.168.180.108]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id EAA13106 for ; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flint.arm.linux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07339; Sun, 07 May 2000 12:56:35 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09286; Sun, 07 May 2000 12:55:49 +0100 Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 12:55:49 +0100 (BST) From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell) Cc: dbath@onthenet.com.au (David Bath), nico@CAM.ORG (Nicolas Pitre), qyzhu@krdl.org.sg (zhu qun ying), jim@federated.com (Jim Studt), linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk (arm), sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com (sa1100), lart@lart.tudelft.nl (lart) Message-id: <200005071155.MAA09286@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Philip Blundell writes: > Actually, I think you dismiss David's suggestion too lightly. You could have > a system call that turned trapping on for the calling process only. But what about the dynamic linker and libraries? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun May 7 13:57:29 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id NAA07886; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:57:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16332 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:57:28 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU600E7JUJPPF@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:57:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id EAA04711; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32585; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:49:39 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA22951; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id EAA22224; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03244; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:47:59 -0700 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id EAA00565 for ; Sun, 07 May 2000 04:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 12oQTF-0006HG-00; Sun, 07 May 2000 13:47:41 +0100 Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 13:47:41 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: Message from Russell King - ARM Linux Admin "of Sun, 07 May 2000 12:40:48 BST." <200005071140.MAA09205@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: dbath@onthenet.com.au (David Bath), nico@CAM.ORG (Nicolas Pitre), qyzhu@krdl.org.sg (zhu qun ying), jim@federated.com (Jim Studt), linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk (arm), sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com (sa1100), lart@lart.tudelft.nl (lart) Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <200005071140.MAA09205@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Russell King wrote: >David Bath writes: >> hmmm... maybe we could just add a system call to enable it. > >No. Phil's point is more or less the same as one of the points I've been >trying to make. Actually, I think you dismiss David's suggestion too lightly. You could have a system call that turned trapping on for the calling process only. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun May 7 14:52:30 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA08163; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:52:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16742 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:52:24 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU600FJQX3A8D@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:52:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id FAA03694; Sun, 07 May 2000 05:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00834; Sun, 07 May 2000 05:43:45 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA12771; Sun, 07 May 2000 05:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA17741; Sun, 07 May 2000 05:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15037; Sun, 07 May 2000 05:41:52 -0700 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id FAA21131 for ; Sun, 07 May 2000 05:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 12oRJb-0006Mp-00; Sun, 07 May 2000 14:41:47 +0100 Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 14:41:47 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: Message from Russell King - ARM Linux Admin "of Sun, 07 May 2000 12:55:49 BST." <200005071155.MAA09286@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: dbath@onthenet.com.au (David Bath), nico@CAM.ORG (Nicolas Pitre), qyzhu@krdl.org.sg (zhu qun ying), jim@federated.com (Jim Studt), linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk (arm), sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com (sa1100), lart@lart.tudelft.nl (lart) Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk References: <200005071155.MAA09286@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> >But what about the dynamic linker and libraries? Yes, there's still a pitfall there for the unwary. But it's not nearly as bad - the worst that happens is that the process you're debugging dies unexpectedly (and I think it's fair to say that if you want to do this, you need to take care of how the linker and libraries were built). Whereas with the global approach that some people were advocating, other users can be screwed over without them realising what's going on. p. From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon May 8 02:56:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA11837; Mon, 8 May 2000 02:56:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24788 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 02:56:05 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU7005FRULF05@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 8 May 2000 02:56:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA16087; Sun, 07 May 2000 17:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17676; Sun, 07 May 2000 17:47:48 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA22634; Sun, 07 May 2000 17:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA15178; Sun, 07 May 2000 17:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20032; Sun, 07 May 2000 17:44:41 -0700 Received: from br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au (br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.64.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id RAA10887 for ; Sun, 07 May 2000 17:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onthenet.com.au (CPE-24-192-86-254.qld.bigpond.net.au [24.192.86.254]) by br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA16599; Mon, 08 May 2000 10:41:25 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 10:41:06 +1000 From: David Bath Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Philip Blundell Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart Message-id: <39160D22.97DF437E@onthenet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i586) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <200005071155.MAA09286@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Philip Blundell wrote: > >But what about the dynamic linker and libraries? > > Yes, there's still a pitfall there for the unwary. But it's not nearly as > bad - the worst that happens is that the process you're debugging dies > unexpectedly (and I think it's fair to say that if you want to do this, you > need to take care of how the linker and libraries were built). It would be cool if the exception handler could inspect the code and/or address that caused the misaligned access, and then determine whether it was an intended misaligned access (as caused by -march=armv3 etc.) or an unintended one, as caused by sloppy x86 code. I haven't looked at the generated code, but I would imagine they'd be indistinguishable :-(. dB. From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon May 8 08:37:28 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id IAA13526; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:37:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27574 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:37:27 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU8009A6AEDTM@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:37:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id XAA28696; Sun, 07 May 2000 23:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19612; Sun, 07 May 2000 23:27:39 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA01622; Sun, 07 May 2000 23:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA15329; Sun, 07 May 2000 23:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25752; Sun, 07 May 2000 23:25:04 -0700 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (p35-cordelia-gui.tch.enablis.net [212.250.233.35]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id XAA26404 for ; Sun, 07 May 2000 23:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flint.arm.linux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10969; Mon, 08 May 2000 07:16:13 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA18381; Mon, 08 May 2000 07:15:26 +0100 Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 07:15:26 +0100 (BST) From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: <39160D22.97DF437E@onthenet.com.au> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: dbath@onthenet.com.au (David Bath) Cc: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell), nico@CAM.ORG (Nicolas Pitre), qyzhu@krdl.org.sg (zhu qun ying), jim@federated.com (Jim Studt), linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk (arm), sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com (sa1100), lart@lart.tudelft.nl (lart) Message-id: <200005080615.HAA18381@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk David Bath writes: > It would be cool if the exception handler could inspect the code and/or address > that caused the misaligned access, and then determine whether it was an > intended misaligned access (as caused by -march=armv3 etc.) or an unintended > one, as caused by sloppy x86 code. I haven't looked at the generated code, but > I would imagine they'd be indistinguishable :-(. They could well be identical. However, it may be worth looking at what the sloppy x86 case is producing. Could you create a simple test case and post the instructions around the offending unaligned load? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon May 8 17:59:20 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA17438; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:59:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15780 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:59:18 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU9002OL0ESQ3@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:59:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA14193; Mon, 08 May 2000 08:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24592; Mon, 08 May 2000 08:53:40 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA03641; Mon, 08 May 2000 08:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA30713; Mon, 08 May 2000 08:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26017; Mon, 08 May 2000 08:51:25 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA03040 for ; Mon, 08 May 2000 08:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:49:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np2.gz Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk ... is available from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. This contains: - ADS GraphicsClient support - Fixes to the flash block driver (tested on ThinClient) - Brutus fixes (it now boots, but runs really slooooooooow. Seems like some cache or clock switching didn't take effect... Maybe it's just me... Any reports appreciated) - Many SA1100 documentation updates (be sure to read them if you might be concerned) - PCMCIA support updated (still not usable yet) - Preliminary audio driver for the UDA1341 on Assabet (Not working yet. For now it will only crash your kernel!) - ...and probably some other things I forget as usual. Enjoy! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon May 8 21:16:14 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA18819; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:16:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20390 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:16:13 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU900CFW9IY2U@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:16:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA21672; Mon, 08 May 2000 12:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23388; Mon, 08 May 2000 12:10:48 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA13067; Mon, 08 May 2000 12:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA19938; Mon, 08 May 2000 12:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17235; Mon, 08 May 2000 12:09:59 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA15198 for ; Mon, 08 May 2000 12:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dutein71 by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA18750; Mon, 08 May 2000 21:08:39 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon May 08 21:08:36 +0200 (MDT) 2000 From: Erik Mouw X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np1 In-reply-to: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <200005081908.VAA18750@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.1 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (IRIX) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! On Wed, 03 May 2000 11:10:36 -0400 (EDT), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > Or, in arch/arm/mm/init.c, try commenting out the call to > create_memmap_holes() instead. Only LART is using it in the discontigous > memory case at the moment... and I may have screwed it up. > > Also please try booting with printk()'s messages sent out by printascii(). OK, this is with linux-2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np2, but the result is the same. With or without the call to create_memmap_holes(): Uncompressing Linux.................................... done, booting the kernel. Linux version 2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np2 (erikm@besson.et.tudelft.nl) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (0 Architecture: LART kernel BUG at bootmem.c:104! However, if I change the LART memory setup in arch/arm/kernel/arch.c into: SET_BANK( 0, 0xc0000000, 8*1024*1024 ); SET_BANK( 1, 0xc8000000, 8*1024*1024 ); mi->nr_banks = 2; Linux boots, and I get: Uncompressing Linux.................................... done, booting the kernel. Linux version 2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np2 (erikm@besson.et.tudelft.nl) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (0 Architecture: LART On node 0 totalpages: 2048 zone(0): 2048 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. On node 1 totalpages: 2048 zone(0): 2048 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS Memory: 8MB 8MB = 16MB total Memory: 10784KB available (950K code, 183K data, 36K init) I'll try find out what's going on tomorrow. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2783635 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email: J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 9 02:49:21 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA20739; Tue, 9 May 2000 02:49:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA26198 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 02:49:19 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU900MKJOY5KL@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 9 May 2000 02:49:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA06130; Mon, 08 May 2000 17:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22020; Mon, 08 May 2000 17:43:37 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA26320; Mon, 08 May 2000 17:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA19318; Mon, 08 May 2000 17:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15404; Mon, 08 May 2000 17:42:17 -0700 Received: from br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au (br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.64.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id RAA10353 for ; Mon, 08 May 2000 17:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onthenet.com.au (CPE-24-192-86-254.qld.bigpond.net.au [24.192.86.254]) by br4.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA08980; Tue, 09 May 2000 10:37:43 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 10:37:23 +1000 From: David Bath Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: Philip Blundell , Nicolas Pitre , zhu qun ying , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart Message-id: <39175DC3.D8F920C8@onthenet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i586) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <200005080615.HAA18381@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > David Bath writes: > > It would be cool if the exception handler could inspect the code and/or address > > that caused the misaligned access, and then determine whether it was an > > intended misaligned access (as caused by -march=armv3 etc.) or an unintended > > one, as caused by sloppy x86 code. I haven't looked at the generated code, but > > I would imagine they'd be indistinguishable :-(. > > They could well be identical. However, it may be worth looking at what > the sloppy x86 case is producing. Could you create a simple test case > and post the instructions around the offending unaligned load? I don't have an example handy, but if I come across one I will. Perhaps the original instigator of this thread can help out here. Can you give us an example of some correct C code that inspires arm-gcc to generate intentional misaligned accesses? I suspect porting application code directly to ARM-Linux will remain a task for true masochists. Happily, most unix apps have long ago been ported to MIPS platforms, and so have long ago had their misaligned accesses fixed. The MIPS architecture is far friendlier in this regard, since all misaligned accesses are bad; it doesn't have the concept of good ones and bad ones. Maybe ARM-Linux application porters should keep an old DECstation of SGI Indigo handy. Get the code running there first, and then get it working on ARM. dB. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 9 03:21:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id DAA20970; Tue, 9 May 2000 03:21:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA26503 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 03:21:53 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FU9000KQQGF0R@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 9 May 2000 03:21:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id SAA04493; Mon, 08 May 2000 18:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07706; Mon, 08 May 2000 18:16:40 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA13360; Mon, 08 May 2000 18:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA11424; Mon, 08 May 2000 18:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29735; Mon, 08 May 2000 18:14:53 -0700 Received: from krdl.org.sg (rodin.krdl.org.sg [192.122.139.27]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id SAA11119 for ; Mon, 08 May 2000 18:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.krdl.org.sg (mailhost [192.122.134.30]) by krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01571; Tue, 09 May 2000 09:22:13 +0800 Received: from krdl.org.sg (QUNYING.krdl.org.sg [192.168.136.36]) by mailhost.krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17086; Tue, 09 May 2000 09:13:35 +0800 (SGT) Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 09:14:26 +0800 From: zhu qun ying Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: David Bath Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , Philip Blundell , Nicolas Pitre , Jim Studt , arm , sa1100 , lart Message-id: <39176672.5A4D20F7@krdl.org.sg> Organization: KRDL MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail1.digital.com id SAA11119 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <200005080615.HAA18381@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <39175DC3.D8F920C8@onthenet.com.au> > I don't have an example handy, but if I come across one I will. Perhap= s the > original instigator of this thread can help out here. >=20 > Can you give us an example of some correct C code that inspires arm-gcc= to generate > intentional misaligned accesses? >=20 > I suspect porting application code directly to ARM-Linux will remain a = task for true > masochists. Happily, most unix apps have long ago been ported to MIPS = platforms, > and so have long ago had their misaligned accesses fixed. The MIPS arc= hitecture is > far friendlier in this regard, since all misaligned accesses are bad; i= t doesn't > have the concept of good ones and bad ones. >=20 > Maybe ARM-Linux application porters should keep an old DECstation of SG= I Indigo > handy. Get the code running there first, and then get it working on AR= M. >=20 > dB. I have the simple C source for this thread at my first post, but it is no= t intentional. The original idea comes from re-construct a packed network p= acket into its original structure form, one integer element is misalligned and = I cast the pointer to integer and cause some porblem. Just curious to know, as I am working with StrongARM for only a few month= s, what are the intentional misalignment asccess for? what are the advantage to u= se misalignement access to have the roation, as StrongARM does have the rota= tion instruction. --=20 (~._.~) =D6=EC =C8=BA =D3=A2 (Qun Ying) (65) 874-6743 ( O ) Kent Ridge Digital Labs (KRDL) ()~*~() 21 Heng Mui Keng Terrace, Singapore 119613 (_)-(_) qyzhu@krdl.org.sg * zhuqy@hotmail.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 9 12:26:02 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id MAA24349; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:26:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl (ns2.tudelft.nl [130.161.180.65]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07798 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:26:00 +0200 (METDST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FUA00K3RFNAGJ@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:25:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id DAA23846; Tue, 09 May 2000 03:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09491; Tue, 09 May 2000 03:20:27 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA26158; Tue, 09 May 2000 03:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id DAA27760; Tue, 09 May 2000 03:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25857; Tue, 09 May 2000 03:17:42 -0700 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (p48-magpie-gui.tch.enablis.net [194.168.180.48]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id DAA25266 for ; Tue, 09 May 2000 03:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flint.arm.linux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15618; Tue, 09 May 2000 07:27:12 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA23139; Tue, 09 May 2000 07:26:22 +0100 Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 07:26:22 +0100 (BST) From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Subject: Re: char array, int pointer and cross boundary access In-reply-to: <39176672.5A4D20F7@krdl.org.sg> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com To: qyzhu@krdl.org.sg (zhu qun ying) Cc: dbath@onthenet.com.au (David Bath), Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell), nico@CAM.ORG (Nicolas Pitre), jim@federated.com (Jim Studt), linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk (arm), sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com (sa1100), lart@lart.tudelft.nl (lart) Message-id: <200005090626.HAA23139@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk zhu qun ying writes: > Just curious to know, as I am working with StrongARM for only a few months, what > are the intentional misalignment asccess for? what are the advantage to use > misalignement access to have the roation, as StrongARM does have the rotation > instruction. Take the following code on a machine without half-word instructions (ie, any V3 architecture or broken V4 architecture): struct { unsigned short a; unsigned short b; } *c; c = <4-byte aligned pointer> printf("%d %d\n", c->a, c->b); The code will be: @ r4 = c adr r0, string ldr r1, [r4, #0] ldr r2, [r4, #2] mov r1, r1, asl #16 mov r2, r2, asl #16 mov r1, r1, lsr #16 @ a mov r2, r2, lsr #16 @ b bl printf _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 12 16:10:43 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA17678; Fri, 12 May 2000 16:10:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21099 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 16:10:40 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA06179; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18863; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:08:47 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA13596; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA15180; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:05:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09032; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:05:48 -0700 Received: from relay.starlab.net (extsrv.starlab.net [212.8.177.194]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA06184 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from downtown.ett.starlab.net (IDENT:root@downtown.ett.starlab.net [212.8.177.17]) by relay.starlab.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09280 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 16:05:18 +0200 Received: from starlab.net (brigham.ett.starlab.net [212.8.177.73]) by downtown.ett.starlab.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA26567 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 16:05:17 +0200 Message-Id: <391C0F53.5902AA5E@starlab.net> Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 16:04:03 +0200 From: Kristiaan De Paepe Organization: STARLAB NV X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Alternative for UCB1200/1300? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hi all, excuse me for being just a bit off-topic but we're currently searching for an easy replacement of the Philips UCB1200 / UCB1300 codec. Alternative should be easily suported by linux and the SA1100 codec-port. We're only interested in the mono or stereo audio output, i.e. we don't need the telecom and other stuff. Does anyone have any suggestions (we need like 30-35 of them within 3 weeks instead of the 30 weeks!@# standard lead-time from Philips). TIA Kristiaan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Ing. De Paepe Kristiaan Principal Investigator Starlab Tel: +32 2 740 07 40 Research Laboratories Fax: +32 2 742 96 54 Blvd. St. Michel 47, Email: mailto:kristiaan@starlab.net B-1040 Brussels (Belgium) WWW: http://www.starlab.net/ Home:mailto:kristiaan@tijd.com Mob: +32 476 43 40 19 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Never reinvent the wheel unless you want it to come out square.(c) ------------------------------------------------------------------ From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 12 17:41:30 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA18173; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:41:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25180 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:41:28 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA12138; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27275; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:40:02 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA25841; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA20345; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21742; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:39:14 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA14732 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dutein71 by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA18140; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:37:55 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200005121537.RAA18140@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> From: Erik Mouw To: kristiaan@starlab.net Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: Alternative for UCB1200/1300? In-Reply-To: <391C0F53.5902AA5E@starlab.net> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs Date: Fri May 12 17:37:54 +0200 (MDT) 2000 X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.1 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (IRIX) X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 May 2000 16:04:03 +0200, Kristiaan De Paepe wrote: > excuse me for being just a bit off-topic but we're currently searching > for an easy replacement of the Philips UCB1200 / UCB1300 codec. > Alternative should be easily suported by linux and the SA1100 > codec-port. We're only interested in the mono or stereo audio output, > i.e. we don't need the telecom and other stuff. > Does anyone have any suggestions (we need like 30-35 of them within 3 > weeks instead of the 30 weeks!@# standard lead-time from Philips). If you only want audio output, you can go for the Victor/LART way and use a standard audio DAC. The LART currently uses a Burr-Brown PCM 1710U on the SSP port. Yes, that's a high quality DAC, but hey, we want good audio quality for our MP3^H^H^Hhandheld! ;-) Have a look at the LART site for the KSB schematics. Erik -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. Free hardware design files. http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 12 17:46:05 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA18202; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:46:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25449 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:46:02 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA06706; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05863; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:44:43 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA00154; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA29780; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19681; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:44:35 -0700 Received: from eising.k-net.dk (eising.k-net.dtu.dk [130.225.71.227]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA12612 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obelix.vkr.k-net.dk (obelix.vkr.k-net.dk [192.38.209.3]) by eising.k-net.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3281AC521 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:44:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: by obelix.vkr.k-net.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:43:55 +0200 Message-Id: From: Anders Frederiksen To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: RE: Alternative for UCB1200/1300? Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 17:43:49 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Maybe a bit off topic: I'm designing towards attaching a ADC/DAC (with the option of a DSP in between)directly to the synchroneous serial interface port (even though it annoys me that it only supports 16 bit (not 24))... I couldn't imagine adapting the codec-port driver to the more encoded ssi will pose a problem? But then again I haven't started fiddeling with the Linux yet. If some of you sharks out there got any comments that should make me reconsider they will be MOST welcome! Best regards, Anders Frederiksen > -----Original Message----- > From: Kristiaan De Paepe [mailto:kristiaan@starlab.net] > Sent: 12. maj 2000 16:04 > To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > Subject: Alternative for UCB1200/1300? > > > Hi all, > excuse me for being just a bit off-topic but we're currently searching > for an easy replacement of the Philips UCB1200 / UCB1300 codec. > Alternative should be easily suported by linux and the SA1100 > codec-port. We're only interested in the mono or stereo audio output, > i.e. we don't need the telecom and other stuff. > Does anyone have any suggestions (we need like 30-35 of them within 3 > weeks instead of the 30 weeks!@# standard lead-time from Philips). > > TIA > Kristiaan > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ing. De Paepe Kristiaan Principal Investigator > Starlab Tel: +32 2 740 07 40 > Research Laboratories Fax: +32 2 742 96 54 > Blvd. St. Michel 47, Email: mailto:kristiaan@starlab.net > B-1040 Brussels (Belgium) WWW: http://www.starlab.net/ > > Home:mailto:kristiaan@tijd.com Mob: +32 476 43 40 19 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Never reinvent the wheel unless you want it to come out square.(c) > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 12 20:28:00 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA18955; Fri, 12 May 2000 20:28:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00487 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 20:27:58 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA18446; Fri, 12 May 2000 11:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14532; Fri, 12 May 2000 11:26:06 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA20246; Fri, 12 May 2000 11:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA23851; Fri, 12 May 2000 11:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23386; Fri, 12 May 2000 11:25:12 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA22157 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 11:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29401; Fri, 12 May 2000 14:48:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:48:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Erik Mouw Cc: kristiaan@starlab.net, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: Alternative for UCB1200/1300? In-Reply-To: <200005121537.RAA18140@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 May -1, Erik Mouw wrote: > On Fri, 12 May 2000 16:04:03 +0200, Kristiaan De Paepe wrote: > > excuse me for being just a bit off-topic but we're currently searching > > for an easy replacement of the Philips UCB1200 / UCB1300 codec. > > Alternative should be easily suported by linux and the SA1100 > > codec-port. We're only interested in the mono or stereo audio output, > > i.e. we don't need the telecom and other stuff. > > Does anyone have any suggestions (we need like 30-35 of them within 3 > > weeks instead of the 30 weeks!@# standard lead-time from Philips). > > If you only want audio output, you can go for the Victor/LART way and use > a standard audio DAC. The LART currently uses a Burr-Brown PCM 1710U on > the SSP port. Yes, that's a high quality DAC, but hey, we want good audio > quality for our MP3^H^H^Hhandheld! ;-) Have a look at the LART site for > the KSB schematics. On Victor, a CS4333 from Crystal was used. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat May 13 23:29:53 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA23170; Sat, 13 May 2000 23:29:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25401 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 23:29:51 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA05216; Sat, 13 May 2000 14:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23373; Sat, 13 May 2000 14:27:44 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA06725; Sat, 13 May 2000 14:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA16888; Sat, 13 May 2000 14:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00458; Sat, 13 May 2000 14:24:20 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA01075 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 14:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03464; Sat, 13 May 2000 17:47:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 17:47:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: lart@lart.tudelft.nl, mad-dev@lists.mars.org Cc: SA-1100/Linux Subject: madplay vs splay (MP3 performances) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk In the process of searching for a good way to test my UDA1341 audio driver, I just cleaned up splay's fixpoint support a bit and created a ramdisk image with splay on it. Sorry Rob, but I couldn't resist comparing splay against madplay on a SA1100 CPU because of recent concerns about splay benchmarks, threads, etc. So here are the results. Since my ramdisk doesn't have the 'time' command, I grabbed a 'top' screen while each players were running in the background. madplay: 12:27am up 27 min, 1 user, load average: 0.17, 0.04, 0.01 11 processes: 10 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 23.8% user, 0.5% system, 0.0% nice, 75.5% idle Mem: 28140K av, 13328K used, 14812K free, 0K shrd, 6144K buff Swap: 0K av, 0K used, 0K free 3752K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 84 root 16 0 1272 1272 1176 S 0 23.8 4.5 0:11 madplay 85 root 1 0 872 872 704 R 0 0.5 3.0 0:00 top 1 root 0 0 512 512 440 S 0 0.0 1.8 0:02 init 2 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kswapd 3 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kflushd 4 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kupdate 34 root 0 0 500 500 436 S 0 0.0 1.7 0:00 syslogd 50 root 0 0 568 568 492 S 0 0.0 2.0 0:00 inetd 54 root 0 0 472 472 400 S 0 0.0 1.6 0:00 getty 55 root 0 0 472 472 400 S 0 0.0 1.6 0:00 getty 56 root 0 0 904 904 748 S 0 0.0 3.2 0:00 bash splay: 12:29am up 29 min, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.05, 0.01 13 processes: 11 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 17.6% user, 0.5% system, 0.0% nice, 81.7% idle Mem: 28140K av, 13672K used, 14468K free, 0K shrd, 6144K buff Swap: 0K av, 0K used, 0K free 3752K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 86 root 14 0 904 904 536 R 0 17.0 3.2 0:08 splay 88 root 0 0 904 904 536 S 0 0.5 3.2 0:00 splay 89 root 1 0 872 872 704 R 0 0.5 3.0 0:00 top 1 root 0 0 512 512 440 S 0 0.0 1.8 0:02 init 2 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kswapd 3 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kflushd 4 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kupdate 34 root 0 0 500 500 436 S 0 0.0 1.7 0:00 syslogd 50 root 0 0 568 568 492 S 0 0.0 2.0 0:00 inetd 54 root 0 0 472 472 400 S 0 0.0 1.6 0:00 getty 55 root 0 0 472 472 400 S 0 0.0 1.6 0:00 getty 56 root 0 0 904 904 748 S 0 0.0 3.2 0:00 bash 87 root 0 0 904 904 536 S 0 0.0 3.2 0:00 splay Even if splay has 3 threads running, they account for 17.5% CPU vs 23.8% CPU for madplay. Both screen snapshots were taken at the same playback time so the "TIME" comparison should be accurate too. The test file used is MPEG-1 Layer 3, joint stereo, 44100Hz, 128kbit/s. This was tested on Linux 2.3.99-pre6-rmk1-np4. /proc/cpuinfo shows: Processor : Intel StrongARM-1110 rev 5 (v4l) BogoMIPS : 194.15 Hardware : Intel-Assabet The splay version I used is the cleaned one. Its playback performances is the same as the old one, however is starts right away instead of crunching 100% CPU for few seconds. This will produce proper results if mesured with the 'time' comands. If you are interested, here are where you can find all relevant files: splay-0.8.2-fp1.tgz ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ ramdisk_img_splay.gz ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ mad-0.10.3b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.mars.org/pub/mpeg/ Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun May 14 03:17:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id DAA23745; Sun, 14 May 2000 03:17:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28195 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 03:17:31 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id SAA13639; Sat, 13 May 2000 18:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17044; Sat, 13 May 2000 18:15:48 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA31864; Sat, 13 May 2000 18:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA04805; Sat, 13 May 2000 18:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06943; Sat, 13 May 2000 18:14:32 -0700 Received: from deimos.mars.org (deimos.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.209.78]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id SAA06670 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 18:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deimos.mars.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deimos.mars.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA02853; Sat, 13 May 2000 21:12:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200005140112.VAA02853@deimos.mars.org> From: Rob Leslie To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl, mad-dev@lists.mars.org, SA-1100/Linux Subject: Re: [mad-dev] madplay vs splay (MP3 performances) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 13 May 2000 17:47:38 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 21:12:49 -0400 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hi Nicolas, Your results are interesting. I tried to reproduce them on my SA-1100 platform, but I continue to get results similar to my previous tests: empeg:~# time ./splay-0.8.2-fp1 -d - WS010038.A08.mp3 >/dev/null real 1m40.466s user 1m37.240s sys 0m2.450s empeg:~# time ./madplay -o pcm:- WS010038.A08.mp3 >/dev/null MPEG Audio Decoder version 0.10.4 (beta) - Copyright (C) 2000 Robert Leslie WS010038.A08.mp3: 9550 frames decoded (4:09.4) real 1m9.162s user 1m6.000s sys 0m0.980s Since this file's audio playing time is 4:09, I calculate about 40% and 27% CPU respectively for splay and madplay. (This madplay is a developmental 0.10.4b not 0.10.3b but the results are still similar.) [I note that 40% is an improvement over my previous measurement of 43% for a previous version of splay on this platform :-] Taking a running snapshot during live audio playback tends to confirm this: empeg:~# ps u USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND #0 20 0.0 11.7 2188 856 ttyS1 S Feb17 0:09 -bash #0 592 40.6 12.6 1856 924 ttyS1 S 11:15 0:11 ./splay-0.8.2-fp #0 593 0.0 12.6 1856 924 ttyS1 S 11:15 0:00 ./splay-0.8.2-fp #0 594 0.6 12.6 1856 924 ttyS1 S 11:15 0:00 ./splay-0.8.2-fp #0 606 0.0 9.5 2268 696 ttyS1 R 11:16 0:00 ps u empeg:~# ps u USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND #0 20 0.0 11.8 2188 868 ttyS1 S Feb17 0:09 -bash #0 611 26.8 10.2 7040 748 ttyS1 S 11:17 0:02 ./madplay WS0100 #0 615 0.0 9.4 2268 692 ttyS1 R 11:17 0:00 ps u For reference: empeg:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo Processor : Intel StrongARM-1100 rev 9 (v4l) BogoMIPS : 208.08 Hardware : SA1100-based Revision : 0000 Serial : 0000000000000000 empeg:~# uname -a Linux empeg 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg22 #193 Sat Mar 25 18:04:26 GMT 2000 armv4l unknown Incidentally, your CPU info was: > Processor : Intel StrongARM-1110 rev 5 (v4l) > BogoMIPS : 194.15 > Hardware : Intel-Assabet I'm not very familiar with the differences between the SA-1100 and the SA-1110, but my understanding is that the SA-1110 has at least a faster memory bus. At any rate, the reported time is definitely affected on the SA-110 and possibly the SA-1110 too when threads are used in splay, although curiously, reporting on my SA-1100 is not significantly affected. To wit: [without threads] empeg:~# time ./splay-0.8.2-fp1 -t 0 test.mp3 real 4m24.557s user 1m41.140s sys 0m2.650s [with threads] empeg:~# time ./splay-0.8.2-fp1 test.mp3 real 4m24.727s user 1m34.870s sys 0m5.530s So the total CPU time on the SA-1100 is similar: 104 vs 100 seconds. Compare that with the SA-110: [without threads] labrat:~$ time ./splay-0.8.2-fp1 -t 0 test.mp3 real 4m23.827s user 0m46.620s sys 0m1.850s [with threads] labrat:~$ time ./splay-0.8.2-fp1 test.mp3 real 4m23.896s user 0m0.650s sys 0m1.540s That's quite a difference: 48 vs 2 seconds total CPU? Can this be accurate? labrat:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo Processor : Intel sa110 rev 3 BogoMips : 262.14 Hardware : Rebel-NetWinder Serial # : 1517 Revision : 44ff labrat:~$ uname -a Linux labrat 2.2.13 #27 Sat Apr 15 01:32:47 CDT 2000 armv4l unknown If you believe the "with threads" numbers, splay is using less than 1% of the SA-110 CPU. (Incidentally, `top' seems to confirm this.) Without threads, it's more like 18%. For the record, madplay scores about 16% on the same machine with the same input file. I don't have access to a SA-1110 machine so I can't compare directly, but I'd be happy to provide a `time' binary if you'd like to take measurements with something better than `top'. Any idea why the numbers are so different for splay using threads vs splay without threads? Can you compare this on the SA-1110? In any event, madplay seems to be significantly faster than splay right now *on the SA-1100* regardless of the threads issue. Perhaps someone else could compare on another SA-1100 host? Cheers, -- Rob Leslie rob@mars.org From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun May 14 16:29:46 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA25296; Sun, 14 May 2000 16:29:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06149 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 16:29:44 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA00700; Sun, 14 May 2000 07:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05783; Sun, 14 May 2000 07:27:51 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA25657; Sun, 14 May 2000 07:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA31276; Sun, 14 May 2000 07:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09352; Sun, 14 May 2000 07:26:37 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA11991 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 07:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04090; Sun, 14 May 2000 10:48:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 10:48:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Rob Leslie Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl, mad-dev@lists.mars.org, SA-1100/Linux Subject: Re: [mad-dev] madplay vs splay (MP3 performances) In-Reply-To: <200005140112.VAA02853@deimos.mars.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 May 2000, Rob Leslie wrote: > Hi Nicolas, > > Your results are interesting. > > I tried to reproduce them on my SA-1100 platform, but I continue to get > results similar to my previous tests: > > empeg:~# time ./splay-0.8.2-fp1 -d - WS010038.A08.mp3 >/dev/null > > real 1m40.466s > user 1m37.240s > sys 0m2.450s > > empeg:~# time ./madplay -o pcm:- WS010038.A08.mp3 >/dev/null > MPEG Audio Decoder version 0.10.4 (beta) - Copyright (C) 2000 Robert Leslie > WS010038.A08.mp3: 9550 frames decoded (4:09.4) > > real 1m9.162s > user 1m6.000s > sys 0m0.980s > > Since this file's audio playing time is 4:09, I calculate about 40% and 27% > CPU respectively for splay and madplay. (This madplay is a developmental > 0.10.4b not 0.10.3b but the results are still similar.) Did you read README.ARM in splay's archive? For best performances you need to add some compiler flags by hand. Also you could use the splay binary included in the ramdisk image I mentionned in my last mail. Or send me your both binaries so I'll try them on my system. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon May 15 01:55:46 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id BAA26508; Mon, 15 May 2000 01:55:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA15061 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 01:55:44 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id QAA26575; Sun, 14 May 2000 16:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09835; Sun, 14 May 2000 16:52:36 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA01204; Sun, 14 May 2000 16:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA21782; Sun, 14 May 2000 16:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15973; Sun, 14 May 2000 16:49:44 -0700 Received: from deimos.mars.org (deimos.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.209.78]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id QAA04845 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 16:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deimos.mars.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deimos.mars.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA16786; Sun, 14 May 2000 19:47:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200005142347.TAA16786@deimos.mars.org> From: Rob Leslie To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl, mad-dev@lists.mars.org, SA-1100/Linux Subject: Re: [mad-dev] madplay vs splay (MP3 performances) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 14 May 2000 10:48:55 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 19:47:56 -0400 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > Did you read README.ARM in splay's archive? For best performances you > need to add some compiler flags by hand. Also you could use the splay > binary included in the ramdisk image I mentionned in my last mail. Yes, I followed the README.ARM instructions, and I also tried using the binary from your ramdisk image. > Or send me your both binaries so I'll try them on my system. Your binaries are probably fine, but do you want me to send you a `time' program? (If so, please follow up privately.) You could try timing the pure decoding time like I did by dumping the PCM output to /dev/null. I'm also curious how the threads issue is manifested on the SA-1110. Cheers, -rob From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon May 15 04:32:40 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA26888; Mon, 15 May 2000 04:32:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16581 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 04:32:38 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA10007; Sun, 14 May 2000 19:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11045; Sun, 14 May 2000 19:28:32 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA02468; Sun, 14 May 2000 19:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA23890; Sun, 14 May 2000 19:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27529; Sun, 14 May 2000 19:27:30 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id TAA00647 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 19:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18210 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 22:50:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 22:50:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Subject: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np1.gz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk ... is available from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. This includes: - Updated to pre8-rmk1 - UDA1341 driver updates (Playback works perfectly but bolted at 44100Hz stereo. No mixer support yet) - Small fix to the framebuffer driver - Small fix to the discontigmem support - Generic IRQ handler for GPIO >= 11 (you can register separate IRQ numbers for all GPIOs now) - PLEB memory config added Some major PCMCIA updates should be coming shortly. *** NOTE *** This kernel now assumes the bootloader is able to pass the correct value in r0/r1 on entry. This will allows for a kernel to be run on multiple SA1100 designs. Failure to do so will result in a non-booting kernel. For those of you using angelboot, see linux/Documentation/arm/SA1100 for documentation files where some angelboot example parameters are presented and r0/r1 registers are assigned their proper values. All registered architecture numbers are listed in linux/include/asm/system.h. If you didn't register one for your architecture, please do so now (see the end of linux/Documentation/arm/README). If your bootloader can't be fixed immediately, you can hardcode r0/r1 at the end of linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/head-sa1100.S as a workaround in the mean time. But of course you'd better fix your bootloader ASAP. Enjoy Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon May 15 19:38:38 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA02305; Mon, 15 May 2000 19:38:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18558 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 19:38:35 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA00721; Mon, 15 May 2000 10:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31888; Mon, 15 May 2000 10:36:23 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA18284; Mon, 15 May 2000 10:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA23626; Mon, 15 May 2000 10:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31366; Mon, 15 May 2000 10:34:49 -0700 Received: from ice.fiftyone.com (ice.fiftyone.com [208.225.80.11]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA16299 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 10:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server01.asi (akron-80-152.ar51.net [208.225.80.152]) by ice.fiftyone.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA06315; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:35:33 -0400 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:35:15 -0400 Message-Id: From: Jeff Sutherland To: "'Nicolas Pitre'" , "'SA-1100/Linux'" Subject: RE: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np1.gz Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:35:01 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > ... is available from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. > > This includes: > > - Updated to pre8-rmk1 > - UDA1341 driver updates > (Playback works perfectly but bolted at 44100Hz stereo. > No mixer support yet) > - Small fix to the framebuffer driver > - Small fix to the discontigmem support > - Generic IRQ handler for GPIO >= 11 > (you can register separate IRQ numbers for all GPIOs now) > - PLEB memory config added > > Some major PCMCIA updates should be coming shortly. --snip-- Kernel boots OK on my Assabet as long as I disable the 1341 support. With it enabled my kernel would simply hang after printing "UDA1341 audio driver initialized". To minimize the damage to the source all I did to disable was to return a non-zero number (error condition) right at the top of audio_uda1341_init() in sa1100-uda1341.c, then the kernel would boot just fine. Hardware problems on a first-generation Assabet possibly? //Jeff From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 16 02:57:22 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA04722; Tue, 16 May 2000 02:57:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01413 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 02:57:20 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA09222; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20531; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:54:13 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA25022; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA18775; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26899; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:51:29 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id RAA05958 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA18825; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:14:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 21:14:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Jeff Sutherland Cc: "'SA-1100/Linux'" Subject: RE: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np1.gz In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 May 2000, Jeff Sutherland wrote: > > ... is available from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. > > > > This includes: > > > > - Updated to pre8-rmk1 > > - UDA1341 driver updates > > (Playback works perfectly but bolted at 44100Hz stereo. > > No mixer support yet) > > - Small fix to the framebuffer driver BTW I forgot to mention 16bpp framebuffer support (from Jamey Hicks) > > - Small fix to the discontigmem support > > - Generic IRQ handler for GPIO >= 11 > > (you can register separate IRQ numbers for all GPIOs now) > > - PLEB memory config added > > > > Some major PCMCIA updates should be coming shortly. > > --snip-- > > Kernel boots OK on my Assabet as long as I disable the 1341 support. With > it enabled my kernel would simply hang after printing "UDA1341 audio driver > initialized". To minimize the damage to the source all I did to disable was > to return a non-zero number (error condition) right at the top of > audio_uda1341_init() in sa1100-uda1341.c, then the kernel would boot just > fine. Hardware problems on a first-generation Assabet possibly? Could you try re-enabling the driver and commenting out references to MDREFR to see if it helps? Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 16 05:09:23 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA05434; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:09:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03649 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:09:20 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA08665; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29182; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:07:49 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA09426; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA08999; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26538; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:07:04 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id UAA12713 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24575; Mon, 15 May 2000 23:30:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 23:30:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Rob Leslie Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl, mad-dev@lists.mars.org, SA-1100/Linux Subject: Re: [mad-dev] madplay vs splay (MP3 performances) In-Reply-To: <200005142347.TAA16786@deimos.mars.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 May 2000, Rob Leslie wrote: > Your binaries are probably fine, but do you want me to send you a `time' > program? (If so, please follow up privately.) You could try timing the pure > decoding time like I did by dumping the PCM output to /dev/null. OK, so I just did on SA1100 hardware for which I don't currently have audio output support: [root@thinclient /]# date; splay -d - test.mp3 | cat > /dev/null; date Mon May 15 21:43:44 EDT 2000 Mon May 15 21:44:11 EDT 2000 [root@thinclient /]# date; madplay -o raw:/dev/null test.mp3; date Mon May 15 21:50:42 EDT 2000 MPEG Audio Decoder version 0.10.3 (beta) - Copyright (C) 2000 Robert Leslie test.mp3: 1959 frames decoded (0:51.1) Mon May 15 21:51:02 EDT 2000 [root@thinclient /]# cat /proc/cpuinfo Processor : Intel StrongARM-1100 rev 9 (v4l) BogoMIPS : 124.52 Hardware : ADS ThinClient [root@thinclient /dev]# uname -s -r Linux 2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np1 So we got: splay: 27 sec 52.8 %CPU if real-time madplay: 20 sec 39.1 %CPU if real-time The same tests with the same binaries on SA1110 hardware gave me: [root@Linux /]$date; splay -d - test.mp3 | cat > /dev/null; date Thu Jan 1 00:17:03 UTC 1970 Thu Jan 1 00:17:27 UTC 1970 [root@Linux /]$date; madplay -o raw:/dev/null test.mp3; date Thu Jan 1 00:22:16 UTC 1970 MPEG Audio Decoder version 0.10.3 (beta) - Copyright (C) 2000 Robert Leslie test.mp3: 1959 frames decoded (0:51.1) Thu Jan 1 00:22:27 UTC 1970 [root@Linux /]$cat /proc/cpuinfo Processor : Intel StrongARM-1110 rev 5 (v4l) BogoMIPS : 194.15 Hardware : Intel-Assabet [root@Linux /]$uname -s -r Linux 2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np1 So we get: splay: 24 sec 47.0 %CPU if real-time madplay: 11 sec 21.5 %CPU if real-time So by looking at this splay is much worse than madplay... and even more on a SA1110 which is pretty weird. However, here is what 'time' produces when both players are actually playing: [root@Linux /]$time splay test.mp3 8.81user 0.25system 0:50.44elapsed 17%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (150major+131minor)pagefaults 0swaps [root@Linux /]$time /tmp/madplay test.mp3 MPEG Audio Decoder version 0.10.3 (beta) - Copyright (C) 2000 Robert Leslie test.mp3: 1959 frames decoded (0:51.1) 11.37user 0.31system 0:50.39elapsed 23%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (311major+52minor)pagefaults 0swaps Here splay is better than madplay and these 'time' results are also coherent with what I get from 'top' statistics. If I do a cat /dev/zero > /dev/null & I can actually see with 'top' that splay uses approx 18% CPU and the 'cat' process uses the 80% leftover. When madplay uses its 23% CPU, cat actually gets 75% CPU. It's true that splay uses a different object when writing to a file instead of the audio device, but looking at the code it shouldn't make so a big difference... I don't know what to think. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 16 06:39:50 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA05860; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:39:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04830 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:39:48 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id VAA18238; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02297; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:37:46 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA21240; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA31402; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22373; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:35:47 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id VAA17608 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA27245 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 00:59:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 00:59:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Subject: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np2.gz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk ... is available from ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. This contains: - duplicate makefile targets removed - big PCMCIA patch from John Dorsey (Supports the Socket LP-E CF+ card on Assabet. See http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~wearable/software/pcmcia-arm.html) Enjoy! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 16 07:38:20 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id HAA06127; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:38:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05727 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:38:18 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id WAA16229; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27940; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:36:49 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA31102; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA08672; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28636; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:36:02 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id WAA14568 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.115.44] (jdbakker.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.115.44]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA12978; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:35:52 +0200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <200005142347.TAA16786@deimos.mars.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 07:33:36 +0200 To: Nicolas Pitre From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: [mad-dev] madplay vs splay (MP3 performances) Cc: Rob Leslie , lart@lart.tudelft.nl, mad-dev@lists.mars.org, SA-1100/Linux Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk At 05:30 +0200 16-05-2000, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >On Sun, 14 May 2000, Rob Leslie wrote: > >> Your binaries are probably fine, but do you want me to send you a `time' >> program? (If so, please follow up privately.) You could try timing the pure >> decoding time like I did by dumping the PCM output to /dev/null. > >OK, so I just did on SA1100 hardware for which I don't currently have >audio output support: > > >[root@thinclient /]# date; splay -d - test.mp3 | cat > /dev/null; date Aren't you really measuring pipe/context switch latency here ? Both of these suck on ARMLinux (because of the required cache flushes). This benchmark may not say too much about splay performance. JDB. -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. Free hardware design files. http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 16 14:25:50 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA09793; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:25:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22382 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:25:48 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id FAA10112; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03123; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:20:25 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA18234; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA24546; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13344; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:17:57 -0700 Received: from krdl.org.sg (rodin.krdl.org.sg [192.122.139.27]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id FAA12360 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.krdl.org.sg (mailhost [192.122.134.30]) by krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23596; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:25:34 +0800 Received: from krdl.org.sg (QUNYING.krdl.org.sg [192.168.136.36]) by mailhost.krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA25299; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:16:50 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <39213C67.2954D90@krdl.org.sg> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 20:17:43 +0800 From: zhu qun ying Organization: KRDL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Nicolas Pitre , sa1100 Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np2.gz References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail1.digital.com id FAA12360 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk The Assabet only code in arch/arm/kernel/hw-sa1100.c is not enclosed in t= he=20 #ifdef CONFIG_SA1100_ASSABET, #endif pair, caused compiled error for othe= r platform. My kernel did not boot, stops after decompressing. (configure after LART) --=20 (~._.~) =D6=EC =C8=BA =D3=A2 (Qun Ying) (65) 874-6743 ( O ) Kent Ridge Digital Labs (KRDL) ()~*~() 21 Heng Mui Keng Terrace, Singapore 119613 (_)-(_) qyzhu@krdl.org.sg * zhuqy@hotmail.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 16 14:48:42 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA10042; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:48:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23481 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:48:40 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id FAA04223; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23830; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:44:38 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA24926; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA12097; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19160; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:42:58 -0700 Received: from smtp1.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP1.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.81]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id FAA14152 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix4.andrew.cmu.edu (UNIX4.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.15.8]) by smtp1.andrew.cmu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA03786; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:39:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 08:39:34 -0400 (EDT) From: John G Dorsey To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np2.gz In-Reply-To: <39213C67.2954D90@krdl.org.sg> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 May 2000, zhu qun ying wrote: > The Assabet only code in arch/arm/kernel/hw-sa1100.c is not enclosed in the > #ifdef CONFIG_SA1100_ASSABET, #endif pair, caused compiled error for other > platform. That's my fault. I was toying with the notion of moving some of the low-level operations into the sa1100 socket driver module, and forgot to put everything back where I found it. I apologize. -jd From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 16 15:14:32 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA10285; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:14:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25109 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:14:29 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA16662; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16645; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:10:28 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA26284; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA00995; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08759; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:08:45 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA15499 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dutein71 by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA10211; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:07:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200005161307.PAA10211@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> From: Erik Mouw To: qyzhu@krdl.org.sg Cc: nico@CAM.ORG, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np2.gz In-Reply-To: <39213C67.2954D90@krdl.org.sg> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs Date: Tue May 16 15:07:17 +0200 (MDT) 2000 X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.1 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (IRIX) X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 May 2000 20:17:43 +0800, zhu qun ying wrote: > My kernel did not boot, stops after decompressing. (configure after LART) The LART also doesn't boot, but that's because of the broken discontiguos memory. I still have to look into this, but other things go first. If you have a real LART (complete with the funny memory setup), you can disable bank 1 and 3 to get it booted (with only 16MB, though). Erik -- Computers run on faith, not electrons. -- T.N. Thompson From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 16 15:59:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA10707; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:59:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27627 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:59:05 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA18845; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24547; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:55:02 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA00348; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA01491; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10663; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:52:49 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA17432 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:47:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: "J.D. Bakker" Cc: Rob Leslie , lart@lart.tudelft.nl, mad-dev@lists.mars.org, SA-1100/Linux Subject: Re: [mad-dev] madplay vs splay (MP3 performances) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 May 2000, J.D. Bakker wrote: > At 05:30 +0200 16-05-2000, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > >On Sun, 14 May 2000, Rob Leslie wrote: > > > >> Your binaries are probably fine, but do you want me to send you a `time' > >> program? (If so, please follow up privately.) You could try timing the pure > >> decoding time like I did by dumping the PCM output to /dev/null. > > > >OK, so I just did on SA1100 hardware for which I don't currently have > >audio output support: > > > > > >[root@thinclient /]# date; splay -d - test.mp3 | cat > /dev/null; date > > > > Aren't you really measuring pipe/context switch latency here ? Both of > these suck on ARMLinux (because of the required cache flushes). This > benchmark may not say too much about splay performance. Task switches between threads don't require a cache flush... but the 'cat' process might be a problem indeed. But for the interesting case i.e. when the player is actually playing, it's still strange that I get opposite results than Rob's. Anyone else can compare splay vs madplay on a SA1100? Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 16 16:19:57 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA10919; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:19:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28790 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:19:55 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA20528; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28606; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:15:54 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA29439; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA07512; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17470; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:14:13 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA18805 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dutein71 by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA10853; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:12:50 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200005161412.QAA10853@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> From: Erik Mouw To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: bakker@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl, rob@mars.org, lart@lart.tudelft.nl, mad-dev@lists.mars.org, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: [mad-dev] madplay vs splay (MP3 performances) In-Reply-To: Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs Date: Tue May 16 16:12:49 +0200 (MDT) 2000 X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.1 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (IRIX) X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 May 2000 09:47:05 -0400 (EDT), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Tue, 16 May 2000, J.D. Bakker wrote: >> At 05:30 +0200 16-05-2000, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >> >[root@thinclient /]# date; splay -d - test.mp3 | cat > /dev/null; date >> >> >> >> Aren't you really measuring pipe/context switch latency here ? Both of >> these suck on ARMLinux (because of the required cache flushes). This >> benchmark may not say too much about splay performance. > > Task switches between threads don't require a cache flush... but the 'cat' > process might be a problem indeed. > > But for the interesting case i.e. when the player is actually playing, > it's still strange that I get opposite results than Rob's. > > Anyone else can compare splay vs madplay on a SA1100? Erm, what's wrong with "splay -d - test.mp3 > /dev/null" ? Erik -- Computers run on faith, not electrons. -- T.N. Thompson From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 16 16:38:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA11075; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:38:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29845 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:38:49 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA20864; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11277; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:34:48 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA11401; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA30454; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30087; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:32:45 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA17541 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:30:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Erik Mouw Cc: qyzhu@krdl.org.sg, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np2.gz In-Reply-To: <200005161307.PAA10211@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 May -1, Erik Mouw wrote: > On Tue, 16 May 2000 20:17:43 +0800, zhu qun ying wrote: > > My kernel did not boot, stops after decompressing. (configure after LART) > > The LART also doesn't boot, but that's because of the broken discontiguos > memory. Discontigous memory works on Brutus. I guess you mean discontigous memory inside a single node... Well we are getting nested discontigous support now! :-) > I still have to look into this, but other things go first. If you > have a real LART (complete with the funny memory setup), you can disable > bank 1 and 3 to get it booted (with only 16MB, though). Try this: While still enabling CONFIG_DEBUG_LL and using printascii(msg) inside the definition of printk(), add some printk()'s to display (in hex) the value of parameters passed to the following functions: init_bootmem_node() reserve_bootmem_node() free_bootmem_node() Those are in linux/mm/bootmem.c. Send me the result. This should be enough to find the problem. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 16 16:49:26 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA11162; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:49:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00483 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:49:24 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA21889; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07240; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:45:24 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA04097; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA04911; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17012; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:43:49 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA25168 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:38:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Erik Mouw Cc: bakker@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl, rob@mars.org, lart@lart.tudelft.nl, mad-dev@lists.mars.org, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: [mad-dev] madplay vs splay (MP3 performances) In-Reply-To: <200005161412.QAA10853@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 May -1, Erik Mouw wrote: > On Tue, 16 May 2000 09:47:05 -0400 (EDT), Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > On Tue, 16 May 2000, J.D. Bakker wrote: > >> At 05:30 +0200 16-05-2000, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > >> >[root@thinclient /]# date; splay -d - test.mp3 | cat > /dev/null; date > >> > >> > >> > >> Aren't you really measuring pipe/context switch latency here ? Both of > >> these suck on ARMLinux (because of the required cache flushes). This > >> benchmark may not say too much about splay performance. > > > > Task switches between threads don't require a cache flush... but the 'cat' > > process might be a problem indeed. > > > > But for the interesting case i.e. when the player is actually playing, > > it's still strange that I get opposite results than Rob's. > > > > Anyone else can compare splay vs madplay on a SA1100? > > Erm, what's wrong with "splay -d - test.mp3 > /dev/null" ? Well... Euh... I'm simply too stupid some times... Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 16 20:52:33 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA12984; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:52:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09248 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:52:31 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA08050; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21300; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:47:59 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA27995; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA04742; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07832; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:42:46 -0700 Received: from ns.centurysoftware.com (ns.censoft.com [208.219.23.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA05238 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcgregh (pcgregh.CenSoft.COM [208.219.23.48]) by ns.centurysoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA05237; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:58:58 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <00d101bfbf66$a8379e90$3017dbd0@censoft.com> From: "Greg Haerr" To: "daihbxd" , , Cc: , References: <20000516093243.29510.qmail@sina.com> Subject: Re: problem about MCP and UCB1300 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:43:41 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail1.digital.com id LAA05238 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Did you get ahold of the UCB1200 driver that we wrote at Century? That version, although not yet completed because of polling issues, works quite well on the ADS StrongARM box with a 640x480 LCD and the UCB1200 input controller. Regards, Greg Subject: problem about MCP and UCB1300 : hi all, : microwindows 0.88pre7 can run on Assabet with frame-buffer and network support happily, : but there is still no touchscreen driver available,so i just can imagin what will be like to drags windows by finger.:) : I tried to struggle for a driver,but clearly i need more hardware study. : i used BCR_SET(CODEC_RESET|AUDIO_ON)to enable UCB1300,and set MCCR= 0 MCE bit, : but the mcp channel or the ucb1300 did not work,because the simple thin= g like to read UCB1300's ID register failed. : anybody could give a hint,i really appreciate it. : regards : : : dai : : : =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D : =D0=C2=C0=CB=C3=E2=B7=D1=B5=E7=D7=D3=D3=CA=CF=E4 http://mail.sina.com.c= n : : : --------------------------------------------------------------------- : To unsubscribe, e-mail: nanogui-unsubscribe@linuxhacker.org : For additional commands, e-mail: nanogui-help@linuxhacker.org : : From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 17 04:04:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA15334; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:04:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA20102 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:04:04 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA31113; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19043; Tue, 16 May 2000 18:59:47 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA22811; Tue, 16 May 2000 18:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA00592; Tue, 16 May 2000 18:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02642; Tue, 16 May 2000 18:55:50 -0700 Received: from krdl.org.sg (rodin.krdl.org.sg [192.122.139.27]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id SAA00975 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 18:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.krdl.org.sg (mailhost [192.122.134.30]) by krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14021; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:03:38 +0800 Received: from krdl.org.sg (QUNYING.krdl.org.sg [192.168.136.36]) by mailhost.krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07148; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:54:52 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <3921FC22.4A98F2F8@krdl.org.sg> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 09:55:46 +0800 From: zhu qun ying Organization: KRDL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Nicolas Pitre , sa1100 Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np2.gz References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail1.digital.com id SAA00975 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk I put the following code segment into the begining of printk(), but I sti= ll have nothing from the output, it freezes after decompression done. I only get = a second line with only a few words, "Error: a", that is all. #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_LL char buffer[128]; va_list ap; va_start(ap, fmt); vsprintf(buffer, fmt, ap); va_end(ap); printascii(buffer); return 0; #else =20 Even I disable the 2nd bank of DRAM, only use the first bank, it hangs af= ter decompression. --=20 (~._.~) =D6=EC =C8=BA =D3=A2 (Qun Ying) (65) 874-6743 ( O ) Kent Ridge Digital Labs (KRDL) ()~*~() 21 Heng Mui Keng Terrace, Singapore 119613 (_)-(_) qyzhu@krdl.org.sg * zhuqy@hotmail.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 17 04:25:00 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA15425; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:25:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA20456 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:24:57 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA30264; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10664; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:20:52 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA22679; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA23111; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11329; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:19:10 -0700 Received: from krdl.org.sg (rodin.krdl.org.sg [192.122.139.27]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id TAA32463 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.krdl.org.sg (mailhost [192.122.134.30]) by krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14895; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:26:52 +0800 Received: from krdl.org.sg (QUNYING.krdl.org.sg [192.168.136.36]) by mailhost.krdl.org.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10000; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:18:06 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <39220193.972FF037@krdl.org.sg> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 10:18:59 +0800 From: zhu qun ying Organization: KRDL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Nicolas Pitre , sa1100 , Erik Mouw Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np2.gz References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail2.digital.com id TAA32463 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Is blob capable to boot the latest kernel? I did look at blob's code, and= it call the kernel as fololow: void (*theKernel)(int zero, int arch) =3D (void (*)(int, int))KERNEL_RAM_= BASE; ... theKernel(0, 9); Where could I find out more information on passing kernel paramer from bootloader? --=20 (~._.~) =D6=EC =C8=BA =D3=A2 (Qun Ying) (65) 874-6743 ( O ) Kent Ridge Digital Labs (KRDL) ()~*~() 21 Heng Mui Keng Terrace, Singapore 119613 (_)-(_) qyzhu@krdl.org.sg * zhuqy@hotmail.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 17 04:16:23 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA15392; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:16:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA20309 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:16:21 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA32415; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03129; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:12:15 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA19947; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA20350; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03806; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:10:37 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id TAA31848 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28751; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:33:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 22:33:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: zhu qun ying Cc: sa1100 Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np2.gz In-Reply-To: <3921FC22.4A98F2F8@krdl.org.sg> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 May 2000, zhu qun ying wrote: > I put the following code segment into the begining of printk(), but I still have > nothing from the output, it freezes after decompression done. I only get a > second line with only a few words, "Error: a", that is all. Please please please re-read the warning I wrote along the patch announcement about register values on kernel entry. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 17 11:33:25 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA17674; Wed, 17 May 2000 11:33:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01979 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 11:33:21 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id CAA21310; Wed, 17 May 2000 02:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07441; Wed, 17 May 2000 02:28:44 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA06565; Wed, 17 May 2000 02:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA19615; Wed, 17 May 2000 02:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18972; Wed, 17 May 2000 02:25:29 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id CAA23243 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 02:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dutein71 by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA17596; Wed, 17 May 2000 11:24:04 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200005170924.LAA17596@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> From: Erik Mouw To: qyzhu@krdl.org.sg Cc: nico@CAM.ORG, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np2.gz In-Reply-To: <39220193.972FF037@krdl.org.sg> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs Date: Wed May 17 11:24:02 +0200 (MDT) 2000 X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailer: XCmail 1.0.1 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (IRIX) X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 May 2000 10:18:59 +0800, zhu qun ying wrote: > Is blob capable to boot the latest kernel? I did look at blob's code, and it > call the kernel > as fololow: > > void (*theKernel)(int zero, int arch) = (void (*)(int, int))KERNEL_RAM_BASE; > ... > theKernel(0, 9); Not yet. I'm currently working on audio, booting Nico's latest kernel comes next. The changes are trivial, I think adding #include at the top of main.c and changing the boot call into theKernel(0, MACH_TYPE_LART); will do the trick for LART. If you have a different machine, use another machine type for the second parameter. > Where could I find out more information on passing kernel paramer from > bootloader? I'm afraid the kernel source is the only documentation, so "Use the source, Luke!" Erik -- "I'm just this guy you know?" -- Zaphod Beeblebrox in "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 17 15:35:16 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA19094; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:35:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13351 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:35:14 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA03475; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07394; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:30:58 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA05574; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA17099; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02652; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:27:50 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA01702 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 09:26:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: zhu qun ying Cc: sa1100 , Erik Mouw Subject: Re: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np2.gz In-Reply-To: <39220193.972FF037@krdl.org.sg> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 May 2000, zhu qun ying wrote: > Is blob capable to boot the latest kernel? I did look at blob's code, and it > call the kernel > as fololow: > > void (*theKernel)(int zero, int arch) = (void (*)(int, int))KERNEL_RAM_BASE; > ... > theKernel(0, 9); The '9' is wrong. For LART, it should be 27. See linux/include/asm/system.h for the complete list. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 17 18:09:35 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA20057; Wed, 17 May 2000 18:09:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20550 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 18:09:33 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA15282; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26575; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:05:24 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA12112; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA11942; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20820; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:03:02 -0700 Received: from blazieresearch.com ([216.85.232.66]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id JAA15381 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by blazieresearch.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04009; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:02:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 12:02:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Blazie Reply-To: Chris Blazie To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk Subject: sa1100 memory limit? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk As of yesterday I have everything working on our SA1110 development board. All memory problems stopped when I lowered the total memory defined in the kernel to 32MB. Next I added my changes to Russel and Nicolas's latest patches (2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np2) and experimented with my bank declarations in arch.c and the MEM_SIZE definition in setup.c. I can use just about any combination of bank declarations (allowing enough memory at C0008000 for kernel and ramdisk) and still operate, but any amount over 32MB causes an oops on kernel boot like the one below. In page_alloc.c, BUG() is executed because page-mem_map >= max_mapnr. max_mapnr is initialized in arch/arm/mm/init.c: max_mapnr = MAP_NR(high_memory); and high_memory == 0xc2000000 at that point. So it seems an implicit 32MB memory limit exists, unless I have something else set up incorrectly. I'm looking, but appreciate any pointers while I try to run this down. I also noticed in include/asm/arch/mmzone.h: /* * 32MB max in each bank, must fit with __virt_to_phys() & __phys_to_virt() */ #define NODE_MAX_MEM_SHIFT 25 #define NODE_MAX_MEM_SIZE (1<] lr : [] sp : c00a9f24 ip : c00a9ee0 fp : c00a9f34 r10: 00000001 r9 : 00002000 r8 : 00000000 r7 : 00000000 r6 : 00000091 r5 : c20028d8 r4 : 00000000 r3 : 00000000 r2 : c00b1e9c r1 : c00b1e9c r0 : 00000022 Flags: nZCv IRQs on FIQs off Mode SVC_32 Segment kernel Control: C000517D Table: C000517D DAC: 0000001D Process swapper (pid: 0, stackpage=c00a9000) Stack: c00a9f00: c001e030 c001643c 60000 c00a9f20: ffffffff c20028f0 c00a9f68 c00a9f38 c0036570 c001640c 60000053 00000 c00a9f40: c20028d8 00000000 00000091 c00b63fc 00000001 00002000 00000001 c00a9 c00a9f60: c00a9f6c c000b708 c00364dc 00000001 c00b63e4 00000020 00000259 c000f c00a9f80: c00b2298 c00c9758 c00a9fa4 c00a9f98 c000b91c c000b63c c00a9fe0 c00a9 c00a9fa0: c000a158 c000b8f8 c001de3c 00000020 000000ab 00000259 00000000 c00d0 c00a9fc0: c00c81f4 c00c8240 c00aaa34 6901b115 c000ecfc c00a9ffc c00a9fe4 c0008 c00a9fe0: c000a078 c00aaa94 c00d1198 c00d1198 00000000 c00aa000 c0008080 c0008 Backtrace: Function entered at [] from [] r4 = C20028F0 Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] r5 = C00D1198 r4 = C00D1198 Code: eb001e7c e3a03000 (e5833000) e91ba810 c0091a48 Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task! In idle task - not syncing From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 17 18:45:50 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA20257; Wed, 17 May 2000 18:45:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21732 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 18:45:48 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA12295; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04409; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:40:34 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA12602; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA03485; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07069; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:38:27 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id JAA17055 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 12:35:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Chris Blazie Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk Subject: Re: sa1100 memory limit? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 May 2000, Chris Blazie wrote: > > As of yesterday I have everything working on our SA1110 > development board. All memory problems stopped when I lowered the total > memory defined in the kernel to 32MB. Next I added my changes to Russel > and Nicolas's latest patches (2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np2) and experimented with > my bank declarations in arch.c and the MEM_SIZE definition in setup.c. I > can use just about any combination of bank declarations (allowing enough > memory at C0008000 for kernel and ramdisk) and still operate, but any > amount over 32MB causes an oops on kernel boot like the one below. [...] > looking, but appreciate any pointers while I try to run this down. I also > noticed in include/asm/arch/mmzone.h: > > /* > * 32MB max in each bank, must fit with __virt_to_phys() & > __phys_to_virt() > */ > #define NODE_MAX_MEM_SHIFT 25 > #define NODE_MAX_MEM_SIZE (1< > Is this an absolute limit on bank size to 32MB? Don't look any further!! You found it. What's the actual maximum memory bank size on the SA1110? It's 32 MB on the SA1100 I think. That's why that limit was 32 MB. To fix that, simply change the NODE_MAX_MEM_SHIFT value and modify __virt_to_phys() and __phys_to_virt() macros accordingly. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 17 18:55:10 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA20293; Wed, 17 May 2000 18:55:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22007 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 18:55:07 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA18531; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:52:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31294; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:51:05 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA08922; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA11905; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10515; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:49:16 -0700 Received: from blazieresearch.com ([216.85.232.66]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id JAA18355 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by blazieresearch.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04601; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:48:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 12:48:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Blazie Reply-To: Chris Blazie To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk Subject: Re: sa1100 memory limit? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > > looking, but appreciate any pointers while I try to run this down. I also > > noticed in include/asm/arch/mmzone.h: > > > > /* > > * 32MB max in each bank, must fit with __virt_to_phys() & > > __phys_to_virt() > > */ > > #define NODE_MAX_MEM_SHIFT 25 > > #define NODE_MAX_MEM_SIZE (1< > > > Is this an absolute limit on bank size to 32MB? > > Don't look any further!! You found it. > > What's the actual maximum memory bank size on the SA1110? It's 32 MB on > the SA1100 I think. That's why that limit was 32 MB. According to the SA1100 and SA1110 reference (memory map), each dynamic memory bank is 128MB max. So bank 0 is C0000000 to C7FFFFFF, bank 1 at C8000000 and so on. Also...if the problem were a bank size limit, I should still be able to handle up to 64MB, correct? 32MB per bank. My problem is anything over 32MB TOTAL gives the oops. Chris From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 17 19:17:41 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA20409; Wed, 17 May 2000 19:17:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA22771 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 19:17:39 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA20451; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18116; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:13:38 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA22308; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA14973; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00014; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:11:23 -0700 Received: from tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com (mail.teklogix.com [207.219.2.10]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA20009 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DeadDuck (BILL [10.128.5.25]) by tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id JCA13LJM; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:10:30 -0400 To: Chris Blazie Cc: Nicolas Pitre , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk Subject: Re: sa1100 memory limit? References: From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: noitazinagro X-Home-Page: http://www.wwonline.com/~bpringle/ Date: 17 May 2000 13:13:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: Chris Blazie's message of "Wed, 17 May 2000 12:48:51 -0400 (EDT)" Message-Id: Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Chris" == Chris Blazie writes: Chris> According to the SA1100 and SA1110 reference (memory Chris> map), each dynamic memory bank is 128MB max. So bank 0 is Chris> C0000000 to C7FFFFFF, bank 1 at C8000000 and so on. Chris> Also...if the problem were a bank size limit, I should Chris> still be able to handle up to 64MB, correct? 32MB per Chris> bank. My problem is anything over 32MB TOTAL gives the Chris> oops. Could it be related to the fact that the branch instruction is a 24 bit signed offset giving a range of +/- 32MB? If you have code living outside this range and a direct jump is made, this could cause problems. The Sa1110 can have four banks of 128MB for 1/2 GB total. There is a hard limit set by the physical addresses of the banks. fwiw, Bill -- I couldn't care less about your whale. You pathetic working quiche-eater! From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 17 19:59:29 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA20586; Wed, 17 May 2000 19:59:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24193 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 19:59:26 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA22143; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32725; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:55:14 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA31420; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA29838; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24386; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:53:21 -0700 Received: from blazieresearch.com ([216.85.232.66]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA22544 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by blazieresearch.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA05157; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:28:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 13:28:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Blazie To: Bill Pringlemeir Cc: Chris Blazie , Nicolas Pitre , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk Subject: Re: sa1100 memory limit? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > Could it be related to the fact that the branch instruction is a > 24 bit signed offset giving a range of +/- 32MB? If you have code > living outside this range and a direct jump is made, this could > cause problems. True, but there are various Netwinders with >32MB and the SA110 is very, very similar to a StrongARM. Chris From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu May 18 08:58:29 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id IAA23471; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:58:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14437 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:58:27 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id XAA03423; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11236; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:53:48 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA14423; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA11027; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20475; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:51:00 -0700 Received: from thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (thorgal.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.40.91]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id XAA02367 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.161.115.44] (jdbakker.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.115.44]) by thorgal.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA23393; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:50:43 +0200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 00:02:07 +0200 To: Nicolas Pitre From: "J.D. Bakker" Subject: Re: sa1100 memory limit? Cc: Chris Blazie , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk At 00:15 +0200 18-05-2000, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >On Wed, 17 May 2000, Chris Blazie wrote: >> According to the SA1100 and SA1110 reference (memory map), each >> dynamic memory bank is 128MB max. So bank 0 is C0000000 to C7FFFFFF, bank >> 1 at C8000000 and so on. > >This is the physical address space reserved for each bank. However I >doubt you can actually put 128 MB of RAM on a single bank. Can you? You can, using four byte-wide 256Mb devices on SA-1110. JDB [who has 64MB single bank expansion cards for LART] -- LART. 250 MIPS under one Watt. Free hardware design files. http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 17 23:58:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA21577; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:58:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03051 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:58:32 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA06932; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AB25629; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:54:25 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA01724; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA26612; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03910; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:52:22 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA04166 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29197; Wed, 17 May 2000 18:15:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 18:15:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Chris Blazie Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk Subject: Re: sa1100 memory limit? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 May 2000, Chris Blazie wrote: > > > > looking, but appreciate any pointers while I try to run this down. I also > > > noticed in include/asm/arch/mmzone.h: > > > > > > /* > > > * 32MB max in each bank, must fit with __virt_to_phys() & > > > __phys_to_virt() > > > */ > > > #define NODE_MAX_MEM_SHIFT 25 > > > #define NODE_MAX_MEM_SIZE (1< > > > > > Is this an absolute limit on bank size to 32MB? > > > > Don't look any further!! You found it. > > > > What's the actual maximum memory bank size on the SA1110? It's 32 MB on > > the SA1100 I think. That's why that limit was 32 MB. > > According to the SA1100 and SA1110 reference (memory map), each > dynamic memory bank is 128MB max. So bank 0 is C0000000 to C7FFFFFF, bank > 1 at C8000000 and so on. This is the physical address space reserved for each bank. However I doubt you can actually put 128 MB of RAM on a single bank. Can you? > Also...if the problem were a bank size limit, I should still be > able to handle up to 64MB, correct? 32MB per bank. My problem is > anything over 32MB TOTAL gives the oops. That's strange... Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu May 18 05:31:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA22598; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:31:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10336 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:31:02 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA26898; Wed, 17 May 2000 20:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24892; Wed, 17 May 2000 20:27:00 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA12283; Wed, 17 May 2000 20:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA13459; Wed, 17 May 2000 20:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16199; Wed, 17 May 2000 20:24:42 -0700 Received: from notes.lhsl.co.kr ([211.54.38.3]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA17979 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 20:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by notes.lhsl.co.kr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id C92568E3.00128972 ; Thu, 18 May 2000 13:22:28 +1000 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LHS From: "Erik Bunce" To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: Chris Blazie , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:07:37 -0400 Subject: Re: sa1100 memory limit? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk nico@cam.org wrote: > > This is the physical address space reserved for each bank. However I > doubt you can actually put 128 MB of RAM on a single bank. Can you? It is actually be relatively simple to get 128MB into a single bank using 256Mbit SDRAM in 32Meg x 8 configuration using 4 chips, or for the masochistic among us using 128MBit SDRAM in 64Meg x 4 configuration using 8 chips. In fact if you look at Table 10-6 on page 10-30 of the "SA1110 Microprocessor Developers Manual" it lists these and other possibilities for putting greater than 32MB in each bank. In fact all four banks could be filled up this way at 128 MB each for a total physical memory size of 512MB. Enjoy, Erik From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu May 18 04:36:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA22431; Thu, 18 May 2000 04:36:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA09345 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 04:36:14 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA17452; Wed, 17 May 2000 19:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06836; Wed, 17 May 2000 19:31:59 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA04099; Wed, 17 May 2000 19:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA08905; Wed, 17 May 2000 19:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12704; Wed, 17 May 2000 19:27:57 -0700 Received: from blazieresearch.com ([216.85.232.66]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id TAA22912 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 19:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cpq800.blazieresearch.com (cpq800 [216.85.232.67]) by blazieresearch.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA12179; Wed, 17 May 2000 22:27:55 -0400 Received: by CPQ800 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 22:28:13 -0400 Message-Id: <412E1CF8088BD211AD5100805FAD9A800CD23E@CPQ800> From: Jim Kasper To: Jim Kasper Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com '" , "'linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk '" Subject: RE: sa1100 memory limit? Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:28:06 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Nicolas Pitre To: Chris Blazie Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk Sent: 05/17/00 18:15 Subject: Re: sa1100 memory limit? On Wed, 17 May 2000, Chris Blazie wrote: > > > > looking, but appreciate any pointers while I try to run this down. I also > > > noticed in include/asm/arch/mmzone.h: > > > > > > /* > > > * 32MB max in each bank, must fit with __virt_to_phys() & > > > __phys_to_virt() > > > */ > > > #define NODE_MAX_MEM_SHIFT 25 > > > #define NODE_MAX_MEM_SIZE (1< > > > > > Is this an absolute limit on bank size to 32MB? > > > > Don't look any further!! You found it. > > > > What's the actual maximum memory bank size on the SA1110? It's 32 MB on > > the SA1100 I think. That's why that limit was 32 MB. > > According to the SA1100 and SA1110 reference (memory map), each > dynamic memory bank is 128MB max. So bank 0 is C0000000 to C7FFFFFF, bank > 1 at C8000000 and so on. This is the physical address space reserved for each bank. However I doubt you can actually put 128 MB of RAM on a single bank. Can you? Actually yes, we currently have 64 Meg per bank and it works fine from boot loader. > Also...if the problem were a bank size limit, I should still be > able to handle up to 64MB, correct? 32MB per bank. My problem is > anything over 32MB TOTAL gives the oops. That's strange... Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu May 18 06:12:44 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA22742; Thu, 18 May 2000 06:12:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11012 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 06:12:42 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id VAA26149; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13227; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:08:38 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA12940; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA14558; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16548; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:06:29 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id VAA28569 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA31594; Thu, 18 May 2000 00:29:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 00:29:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Erik Bunce Cc: Chris Blazie , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk Subject: Re: sa1100 memory limit? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 May 2000, Erik Bunce wrote: > > > nico@cam.org wrote: > > > > This is the physical address space reserved for each bank. However I > > doubt you can actually put 128 MB of RAM on a single bank. Can you? > > It is actually be relatively simple to get 128MB into a single bank using > 256Mbit SDRAM in 32Meg x 8 configuration using 4 chips, or for the masochistic > among us using 128MBit SDRAM in 64Meg x 4 configuration using 8 chips. In fact > if you look at Table 10-6 on page 10-30 of the "SA1110 Microprocessor Developers > Manual" it lists these and other possibilities for putting greater than 32MB in > each bank. In fact all four banks could be filled up this way at 128 MB each > for a total physical memory size of 512MB. This is amazing! This is more than what my last PC could handle!! Well... Gonna have to re-think the whole mapping to accomodate that possibility... and Chris' as well. Chris -> Can you survive with only 32 MB for a couple of days? Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu May 18 14:38:26 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id OAA26143; Thu, 18 May 2000 14:38:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01299 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 14:38:22 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id FAA24865; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17045; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:33:23 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA02992; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id FAA17807; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27691; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:30:46 -0700 Received: from blazieresearch.com ([216.85.232.66]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id FAA21241 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by blazieresearch.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA19345; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:29:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:29:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Blazie To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: Erik Bunce , Chris Blazie , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk Subject: Re: sa1100 memory limit? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > Well... Gonna have to re-think the whole mapping to accomodate that > possibility... and Chris' as well. > > Chris -> Can you survive with only 32 MB for a couple of days? Absolutely; actually it won't be an issue for quite a long time. Thanks, Chris From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu May 18 17:50:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA27644; Thu, 18 May 2000 17:50:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11982 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 17:50:24 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA31683; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30529; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:46:11 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA15473; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA31491; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22077; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:43:38 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com (generic199.197.205.205.in-addr.arpa [205.205.197.199] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA02461 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:41:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np3 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk ... is available from the following locations: ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/people/nico/ This contains: - Big PCMCIA support integration plus documentation updates; - Fix to previous patch which prevented to compile for something else than Assabet; - More UDA1341 work, essentially the framework for audio input support. Pending: - Support for more than 32MB of ram per bank on the SA1110. Note that ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/people/nico/ is now a mirror of ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ and should be synchronized automatically within an hour. Enjoy! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 19 21:29:24 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA05604; Fri, 19 May 2000 21:29:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09943 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 21:29:21 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA11598; Fri, 19 May 2000 12:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21187; Fri, 19 May 2000 12:24:56 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA31157; Fri, 19 May 2000 12:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA16947; Fri, 19 May 2000 12:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18782; Fri, 19 May 2000 12:19:00 -0700 Received: from ice.ar51.net (ice.fiftyone.com [208.225.80.11]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA27860 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 12:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server01.asi (akron-80-177.ar51.net [208.225.80.177]) by ice.ar51.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA10765; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:18:31 -0400 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:19:02 -0400 Message-Id: From: Jeff Sutherland To: "John G. Dorsey (E-mail)" , "SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)" Subject: Ethernet working on Assabet (mostly...) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 15:18:54 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Just want to report that a compact flash Ethernet card WORKS on 2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np3 on the Assabet. One small issue: about every 8 seconds "eth0: interrupt(s) dropped!" appears on the console, yet ifconfig shows no errors at all for the eth0 interface. What did I mess up? In fact, I've noticed no real operational issues, telneting all over the place, even ftp'd something from Nico's site on Netwinder.org directly to the Assabet. Cool! Also I'm tweaking the startup scripts a little- I boned something so currently I have to load the modules by hand. John's card utilities work fine, I'm in the process of adding NFS support to the kernel, then no more ramdisk space issues. Thanks, guys! //Jeff From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 19 22:12:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA05723; Fri, 19 May 2000 22:12:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA11219 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 22:12:49 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA08667; Fri, 19 May 2000 13:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32311; Fri, 19 May 2000 13:07:39 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA21274; Fri, 19 May 2000 13:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA25658; Fri, 19 May 2000 13:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28469; Fri, 19 May 2000 13:04:30 -0700 Received: from ice.ar51.net (ice.fiftyone.com [208.225.80.11]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA30408 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 13:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server01.asi (akron-80-177.ar51.net [208.225.80.177]) by ice.ar51.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA13653; Fri, 19 May 2000 16:04:28 -0400 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 19 May 2000 16:05:04 -0400 Message-Id: From: Jeff Sutherland To: "'nmistry@lhsl.com'" , "SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Ethernet working on Assabet (mostly...) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 16:04:55 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > Jeff, > > Can you send me some information about how you got the CF > Ethernet working? > does it work w/ just the 8-1-3, or have you created a set of > patches.. if it > is just 8-1-3, can yous end me your kernel config.. I am > currently working on > the touch screen, and x-windows for assabet, and having > network access would > definitely speed up things.. > > Thanks! > > -Nick Well, umm, I just kind of followed the directions in the kernel source once I applied the patches. Also went to John Dorsey's page and grabbed his ramdisk image to look at his startup scripts and got a pcmcia source tree so I could get the userland utilities for PCMCIA that don't come with the kernel. I had pretty much gone through the exercise of setting up networking by getting PPP working first a while back. Actually, setting up all the config files to make networking run is really the most work. I built all the PCMCIA drivers as modules, stripped 'em, and loaded them into my ramdisk. Once booted I still have some config problems to work through, so just loaded the modules by hand, stuck the card in, ran cardmgr which saw the card right away, then did 'ifup eth0' and bang! I was on the net. Easier than I ever dreamed possible. (All you network gurus stop laughing NOW, OK?) BTW the card is the compact flash Socket 10baseT device that comes with the Assabet dev. kit. Now it's on to booting diskless and NFS mounting the root filesystem somewhere (probably on my Netwinder since they're binary compatible :D ) //Jeff From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon May 22 19:12:18 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA17947; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:12:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10351 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:12:15 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA12879; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25342; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:09:10 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA01850; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA22744; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26365; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:04:53 -0700 Received: from smtp3.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP3.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.83]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA13184 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix10.andrew.cmu.edu (UNIX10.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.15.14]) by smtp3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA22070; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:01:27 -0400 (EDT) From: John G Dorsey To: Jeff Sutherland Cc: "SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Ethernet working on Assabet (mostly...) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 May 2000, Jeff Sutherland wrote: > Just want to report that a compact flash Ethernet card WORKS on > 2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np3 on the Assabet. One small issue: about every 8 seconds > "eth0: interrupt(s) dropped!" appears on the console, yet ifconfig shows no > errors at all for the eth0 interface. What did I mess up? Nothing that doesn't seem to be messed up for others who use that device. =) (Before the driver even started working properly, I was warned by Andrew Pfiffer at Intel that he had observed this card failing to reliably generate interrupts.) Since I don't have long-term needs for this device, and since it does appear to "work" apart from the occasional console error message, I'm inclined to leave it alone for now. Socket won't even send me documentation on the card, so if anyone else is feeling adventurous (or doesn't mind trying to explain to a tech support operator why there really _isn't_ a driver for me already on their web site...), feel free to tackle this. > Also I'm tweaking the startup scripts a little- I boned something so > currently I have to load the modules by hand. You're missing half the fun of Card Services! I've put up a new ramdisk on the web site, which has some extra utilities and some corrections to the Card Services scripts. Once you have a clean setup, hot insertions should work, which are good for hours of fun. =) > I'm in the process of adding NFS support to the kernel, then no more > ramdisk space issues. I hadn't thought to check this earlier, but it seems that Nicolas' latest patch omits one important CF-related tweak. Specifically, it's Erik Bunce's ide.h change, which lets you use ATA/IDE devices as well. (He developed on Kingston and SanDisk flash parts, but I've had no problems with a Microdrive.) The patch is 1KB, and is also on the web site. Also available is a config file, since I've received some reports of confusion over the correct options. I'm thinking about adding SA-1111 PCMCIA support next. Does anybody have Neponset patches I should know about? -jd From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon May 22 19:37:44 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA18149; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:37:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA11299 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:37:41 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA14677; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20171; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:35:24 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA05814; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA03308; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08025; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:33:32 -0700 Received: from ice.ar51.net (ice.fiftyone.com [208.225.80.11]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA06541 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server01.asi (akron-80-162.ar51.net [208.225.80.162]) by ice.ar51.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA03069; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:33:29 -0400 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:34:11 -0400 Message-Id: From: Jeff Sutherland To: "'John G Dorsey'" Cc: "'SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)'" Subject: RE: Ethernet working on Assabet (mostly...) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:34:09 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > > I'm in the process of adding NFS support to the kernel, then no more > > ramdisk space issues. > > I hadn't thought to check this earlier, but it seems that > Nicolas' latest > patch omits one important CF-related tweak. Specifically, it's Erik > Bunce's ide.h change, which lets you use ATA/IDE devices as well. (He > developed on Kingston and SanDisk flash parts, but I've had > no problems > with a Microdrive.) The patch is 1KB, and is also on the web > site. Also > available is a config file, since I've received some reports > of confusion > over the correct options. I'll check that out. In the meantime I'm going back to turn on the debug code in the pcmcia modules. After I recompiled my kernel I can't get this thing working any more! The modules apparently load OK, the card power seems to be coming on (10baseT light on the hub comes on) but no pcmcia device shows up in /proc/devices, hence cardmgr and cardctl won't work. Triple checked kernel config, rebuilt everything a couple of times, now I have to go figure it out... Ahh, hacking... Gotta love it. > I'm thinking about adding SA-1111 PCMCIA support next. Does > anybody have > Neponset patches I should know about? > > -jd Is the Nep even working yet? One issue the CE guys found out the hard way: If using the PCMCIA sockets on the Nep, do NOT put anything in the compact flash socket on the Assabet! They roasted a compact flash card this way. I need to go look at the schemos again for the exact reason... Also due to buffering the SDRAM on the Nep can only run at 51MHz max (half the speed of the Assabet SDRAM). Then there's that problematic SA1111 chip to deal with... //Jeff From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon May 22 20:41:23 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA18577; Mon, 22 May 2000 20:41:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13327 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 20:41:19 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA11872; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21105; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:39:03 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA29194; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA04483; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:35:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30647; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:35:22 -0700 Received: from lhs.com (lnsmtpbos00.lhs.com [208.162.98.43]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA07806 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lhs.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id 852568E7.0066CE3A ; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:42:54 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LHS To: Jeff Sutherland Cc: "'John G Dorsey'" , "'SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)'" Message-Id: <852568E7.0066CC17.00@lhs.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:32:21 -0400 Subject: RE: Ethernet working on Assabet (mostly...) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk jsutherland@accelent.com writes: > I'll check that out. In the meantime I'm going back to turn on the debug > code in the pcmcia modules. After I recompiled my kernel I can't get this > thing working any more! The modules apparently load OK, the card power > seems to be coming on (10baseT light on the hub comes on) but no pcmcia > device shows up in /proc/devices, hence cardmgr and cardctl won't work. > Triple checked kernel config, rebuilt everything a couple of times, now I've submitted a patch to John Dorsey and Nicolas Pitre that should fix that problem. If a card was inserted when cardmanager was started, then it would just work. However if a card wasn't inserted at startup it wouldn't. It turns out there was a bug in cs.c included in the patches that it didn't call set_socket to initialize the state of the SA1100 driver, which includes the mask setting for DETECT. Since DETECT isn't in the mask of the sa1100's copy of the CardServices state, it doesn't pass on the event when it receives the card detect interrupt. Unfortunately I don't have a place to put my patch up at the moment, but if you wan't I can send it to you seperately. Erik From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 23 05:05:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA21499; Tue, 23 May 2000 05:05:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27134 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 05:05:04 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA11323; Mon, 22 May 2000 20:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06777; Mon, 22 May 2000 20:02:21 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA26930; Mon, 22 May 2000 20:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA15598; Mon, 22 May 2000 20:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18718; Mon, 22 May 2000 20:00:10 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id UAA03648 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 20:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24948 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 23:23:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 23:23:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Subject: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np4 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Is available at the usual places... This contains: - UDA1341 recording support - Some minor changes to allow PCMCIA modules to be compiled in the kernel The major improvement is the UDA1341 recording support. I've been working on that the whole day and most of the weekend so didn't have time to merge all the latest PCMCIA patches. So if you don't care about UDA1341 recording support then just wait for the next patch. If you want to test it quickly, just try: dd if=/dev/dsp of=/dev/dsp bs=16384 and listen to the result with headphones. If the above command is run in the background, then you can use the 'mix' program available on my ramdisk_img_splay.gz image. 'mix' is a minimal text mode mixer which lets you change the volume, treble, recording level, recording source, etc. (well, you all have played with a mixer program already, right?). Note that output as well as input are fixed to 44100Hz stereo, 16 bits/sample. I'll get on PCMCIA stuff hopefully tomorow. Enjoy! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 24 05:58:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA29944; Wed, 24 May 2000 05:58:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21199 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 05:58:24 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA29545; Tue, 23 May 2000 20:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10756; Tue, 23 May 2000 20:56:11 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA05088; Tue, 23 May 2000 20:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA27930; Tue, 23 May 2000 20:50:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20651; Tue, 23 May 2000 20:50:26 -0700 Received: from lhs.com (lnsmtpbos00.lhs.com [208.162.98.43]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA18458 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 20:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lhs.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id 852568E9.0015CC15 ; Tue, 23 May 2000 23:58:05 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LHS To: Sun-Gi Hong Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-Id: <852568E9.0015CA7F.00@lhs.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:34:47 -0400 Subject: Re: LCD backlight on Assabet BD problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk After speaking with an engineer @ ergpower I have the part needed to power the frontlight on the Sharp LQ039Q2DS54 Display. The part # is 8m122375 its an 8m Class DC to AC inverter The cost per unit is $29 each, for a qty of less than 10.. there is a minimum order amount of $100. And a lead time of 4 weeks.. -Nick nmistry@lhsl.com on 05/23/2000 04:04:47 PM To: Sun-Gi Hong cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu (bcc: Nicholas Mistry/USER/US/LHS) Subject: Re: LCD backlight on Assabet BD problem Unless you obtain an AC inverter for the frontlight on the Assabet, enabling the frontlight in software will do nothing. After doing a bit of research (and calling intel) i was able to find a vendor for the inverter.. Endicott Research (www.ergpower.com) 2601 Wayne Street Endicott, New York 13760 607-754-9187 fax 607-754-9255 I was able to find out that they do have an inverter that supports the Sharp LQ039Q2DS54, but every time i try to contact the engineer, he is not at his desk!?!? I will try again today, and see if i can get more info.. pricing.. etc.. -Nick Sun-Gi Hong on 05/23/2000 03:50:19 AM To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu cc: (bcc: Nicholas Mistry/USER/US/LHS) Subject: LCD backlight on Assabet BD problem Greetings, Now I am trying to turn on the LCD backlight on Assabet board, however, I don't know how to achieve this. In /video/sa1100fb.c, there is a function of sa1100fb_enable_lcd_controller (), and it contains the following routines. if (machine_is_assabet()) { #ifdef CONFIG_SA1100_ASSABET BCR_set(BCR_LCD_ON); #endif } else if (machine_is_penny()) { #ifdef CONFIG_SA1100_PENNY FpgaLcdCS1 = 0x0FF; /* LCD Backlight to 100% */ FpgaPortI |= LCD_ON; /* Turn on LCD Backlight */ #endif } else if (machine_is_tifon()) { GPCR = GPIO_GPIO(24); /* cycle on/off-switch */ udelay(150); GPSR = GPIO_GPIO(24); /* turn on display */ As you can see, LCD backlight seems to work in the case of PENNY, but Assabet does not. (Am I right?) What can I do for turning on LCD backlight? Any ideas? unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu ++ Please use linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk for ++ ++ kernel-related discussions. ++ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu ++ Please use linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk for ++ ++ kernel-related discussions. ++ From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 24 19:15:53 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA04611; Wed, 24 May 2000 19:15:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25664 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 19:15:51 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA12692; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11948; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:13:20 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA10733; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA22200; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04140; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:10:39 -0700 Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (mail-blue.research.att.com [135.207.30.102]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA32463 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.research.att.com (hermes.research.att.com [135.207.16.38]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068B64CE16 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 13:09:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from research.att.com (tcc@dhcp-new133.research.att.com [135.207.19.133]) by hermes.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA20625 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 13:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <392C0CCE.FC2A06E0@research.att.com> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 13:09:34 -0400 From: "Jack T. Chang" Organization: AT&T Labs-Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: Please add me to the mailing list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------2BE9ACFAED2A2F7203ABE908" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk --------------2BE9ACFAED2A2F7203ABE908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks -- Jack T. Chang --------------2BE9ACFAED2A2F7203ABE908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks 
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  --------------2BE9ACFAED2A2F7203ABE908-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 26 05:07:30 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA14433; Fri, 26 May 2000 05:07:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA04697 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 05:07:28 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA14005; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31698; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:05:18 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA31188; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA31186; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04488; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:02:31 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id UAA04483 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA31394 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 23:01:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 23:01:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Subject: diff-2.3.99-pre8-rmk1-np5 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk ... is available from the usual places. This contains: - CPU speed scaling from the LART team, plus SA1110 additions from Erik Bunce - some fixes to the PCMCIA support (generic IDE configuration for non-PCMCIA systems has to be fixed though) There are still many things to clean up, but it'll come with time... ;) Enjoy! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri May 26 18:11:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA18246; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:11:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02737 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:11:25 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA14256; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03433; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:09:28 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA16114; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA17182; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13629; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:07:42 -0700 Received: from thalia.fm.intel.com (thalia.fm.intel.com [132.233.247.11]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id JAA12755 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SMTP (fmsmsxvs05-1.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.205]) by thalia.fm.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.28 2000/05/06 00:07:11 dmccart Exp $) with SMTP id QAA11010 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:08:18 GMT Received: from fmsmsx28.FM.INTEL.COM ([132.233.48.28]) by 132.233.48.205 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:07:27 0000 (GMT) Received: by fmsmsx28.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:07:26 -0700 Message-Id: <4D1999F67A93D211AC4C00A0C945BCFA056ACD10@apsmsxhk90.ihk.intel.com> From: "Yu, Sherman" To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Linux porting on Assabet(/Niponset) board Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:07:20 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Dear Sir: I am supporting StrongARM in APac. A lot of customers had interest in the Linux porting on Assabet. Please put me in your distribution list. We can share the information. With Best Regards... Sherman Yu From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 30 17:25:59 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA07480; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:25:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05501 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:25:57 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA19135; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24410; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:23:29 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA06873; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA06887; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29289; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:19:38 -0700 Received: from zinc.singnet.com.sg (smtp3.singnet.com.sg [165.21.7.83]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA13328 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wks1 (ad202.166.107.152.magix.com.sg [202.166.107.152]) by zinc.singnet.com.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA00538 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 23:18:30 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <002201bfca4b$1da9f9e0$0864a8c0@wks1> From: "Toong See Wan" To: Subject: How to download kernel to SA1110 Assabalt? Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 23:24:08 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFCA8E.27A429A0" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFCA8E.27A429A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there any documenation to byulid toolchain and download to Strongarm = eval board Assabalt SA1110 ? All info I find is for SA1100. When i tried = the step shown I ran into alot of problems. So I would appreciate if = anybody can tell me a resource for SA1110 eval=20 Thanks Seewan ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFCA8E.27A429A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there any documenation to byulid = toolchain and=20 download to Strongarm eval board Assabalt SA1110 ? All info I find is = for=20 SA1100. When i tried the step shown I ran into alot of problems. So I = would=20 appreciate if anybody can tell me a resource for SA1110 eval =
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------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFCA8E.27A429A0-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 30 17:39:33 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA07536; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:39:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06033 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:39:27 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA18737; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17384; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:38:08 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA08129; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA08162; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16156; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:37:56 -0700 Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (mail-blue.research.att.com [135.207.30.102]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA27878 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.research.att.com (hermes.research.att.com [135.207.16.38]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4C94CE04; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:37:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from research.att.com (gliss [135.207.17.204]) by hermes.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA02647; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3933E07F.DC9EEDA2@research.att.com> Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:38:40 -0400 From: "Jack T.C. Chang" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; IRIX 6.3 IP32) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Toong See Wan Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: How to download kernel to SA1110 Assabalt? References: <002201bfca4b$1da9f9e0$0864a8c0@wks1> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------A0421A2B220D9FFD97893D11" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk --------------A0421A2B220D9FFD97893D11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You may find useful info from http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~wearable/software/assabet.html Toong See Wan wrote: > Is there any documenation to byulid toolchain and download to > Strongarm eval board Assabalt SA1110 ? All info I find is for SA1100. > When i tried the step shown I ran into alot of problems. So I would > appreciate if anybody can tell me a resource for SA1110 evalThanks > Seewan -- ====== Jack T. Chang AT&T Laboratories - Research URL:http://www.research.att.com/info/tcc --------------A0421A2B220D9FFD97893D11 Content-Type: text/html; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You may find useful info from
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Toong See Wan wrote:

Is there any documenation to byulid toolchain and download to Strongarm eval board Assabalt SA1110 ? All info I find is for SA1100. When i tried the step shown I ran into alot of problems. So I would appreciate if anybody can tell me a resource for SA1110 evalThanks Seewan
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X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sa1100-linux Subject: Unresolved symbols in flash_mem Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------EDEA57EF995712CE03D1B4BB" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EDEA57EF995712CE03D1B4BB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm trying to compile the flash block driver that ships with 2.3.99-rmk1-np4 as a module and am getting the following errors on insmod: flash_mem.o: unresolved symbol sa1100_node_data flash_mem.o: unresolved symbol alloc_pages As far as nm can tell me, both symbols are defined in the kernel. I'm guessing that the problematic functions are __get_free_pages() and free_pages(); I've always been a little uncertain about the difference between these functions, vmalloc(), and kmalloc(). Anyway, any pointers would be helpful; I'll try statically linking the driver code into a new kernel in the meantime. Thanks, --Mark -- Mark Huang Systems Development Manager LiveToy Networks, Inc. --------------EDEA57EF995712CE03D1B4BB Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="mhuang.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Mark Huang Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mhuang.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin:vcard n:Huang;Mark tel;cell:617-359-7898 tel;fax:617-354-5930 tel;work:617-354-0699 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:LiveToy Networks, Inc. adr:;;840 Memorial Dr;Cambridge;MA;02139;USA version:2.1 email;internet:mhuang@livetoy.com title:Systems Development Manager x-mozilla-cpt:;6592 fn:Mark Huang end:vcard --------------EDEA57EF995712CE03D1B4BB-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 30 17:48:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA07592; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:48:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06619 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:48:50 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA19812; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06455; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:47:30 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA08438; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA08470; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21157; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:47:19 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com ([205.250.170.220]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA20385 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:43:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Toong See Wan Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: How to download kernel to SA1110 Assabalt? In-Reply-To: <002201bfca4b$1da9f9e0$0864a8c0@wks1> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 May 2000, Toong See Wan wrote: > Is there any documenation to byulid toolchain and download to Strongarm eval board Assabalt SA1110 ? All info I find is for SA1100. When i tried the step shown I ran into alot of problems. So I would appreciate if anybody can tell me a resource for SA1110 eval > Thanks See linux/Documentation/arm/SA1100/Assabet after you patched your Linux source tree. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue May 30 17:53:41 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA07617; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:53:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06784 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:53:38 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA17519; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30088; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:52:18 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA08599; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA08608; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05046; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:52:06 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com ([205.250.170.220]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA29474 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:48:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Mark Huang Cc: sa1100-linux Subject: Re: Unresolved symbols in flash_mem In-Reply-To: <3933E0C3.A97680D7@livetoy.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY=------------EDEA57EF995712CE03D1B4BB Content-Id: Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --------------EDEA57EF995712CE03D1B4BB Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: On Tue, 30 May 2000, Mark Huang wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to compile the flash block driver that ships with > 2.3.99-rmk1-np4 as a module and am getting the following errors on > insmod: > > flash_mem.o: unresolved symbol sa1100_node_data > flash_mem.o: unresolved symbol alloc_pages Hmmm... For instance, try adding EXPORT_SYMBOL(x); Just after those symbols are defined in the source tree. Substitute x with the symbol name. Of course, linking the driver in the kernel will work. Nicolas --------------EDEA57EF995712CE03D1B4BB Content-Type: TEXT/X-VCARD; CHARSET=us-ascii; NAME="mhuang.vcf" Content-ID: Content-Description: Card for Mark Huang Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="mhuang.vcf" begin:vcard n:Huang;Mark tel;cell:617-359-7898 tel;fax:617-354-5930 tel;work:617-354-0699 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:LiveToy Networks, Inc. adr:;;840 Memorial Dr;Cambridge;MA;02139;USA version:2.1 email;internet:mhuang@livetoy.com title:Systems Development Manager x-mozilla-cpt:;6592 fn:Mark Huang end:vcard --------------EDEA57EF995712CE03D1B4BB-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 31 00:49:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA08970; Wed, 31 May 2000 00:49:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20213 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 00:49:53 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA12238; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25552; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:48:04 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA26696; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA27845; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29504; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:47:16 -0700 Received: from ns1.neogenesis.com (ns1.neogenesis.com [209.21.255.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA14504 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.3.8] by ns1.neogenesis.com via smtpd (for mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) with SMTP; 30 May 2000 22:52:17 UT Received: from livetoy.com (IDENT:mhuang@hotrod.livetoy.com [192.168.3.15]) by smtp.livetoy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25561; Tue, 30 May 2000 18:52:23 -0400 Message-Id: <393444FC.225A6A1B@livetoy.com> Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 18:47:24 -0400 From: Mark Huang Organization: LiveToy Networks, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Nicolas Pitre , sa1100-linux Subject: Re: Unresolved symbols in flash_mem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Nicolas Pitre wrote: > For instance, try adding > > EXPORT_SYMBOL(x); > > Just after those symbols are defined in the source tree. Substitute x > with the symbol name. > > Of course, linking the driver in the kernel will work. > In flash_mem.c, I changed the calls to __get_free_pages() and free_pages() to vmalloc() and vfree(); I couldn't see any reason that the flash cache would need contiguous physical regions. It seems to work, and doesn't complain during compilation, so I went with it. I made a few other changes to make it easier to replace the erase_sector() and write_sector() functions for different kinds of flash and can submit those in a patch if you like. One other question I have is what happened to the sync() interface for custom block drivers? The only way I can flush the cache manually is to umount the device. sync() and update() don't seem to do anything, there doesn't seem to be an fsync() block_device_operation, and the BLKFLSBUF ioctl() doesn't flush the flash cache (bug?). For now, I threw a call to write_cached_data() in BLKFLSBUF and wrote my own sync program to call it, but I'm not sure this is entirely kosher. Thanks! --Mark -- Mark Huang Systems Development Manager LiveToy Networks, Inc. From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed May 31 16:25:20 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA13524; Wed, 31 May 2000 16:25:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22439 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 16:25:17 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA09500; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30265; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:23:29 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA21503; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA21441; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28953; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:21:52 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com ([205.250.170.220]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA06868 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:17:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Mark Huang Cc: sa1100-linux Subject: Re: Unresolved symbols in flash_mem In-Reply-To: <393444FC.225A6A1B@livetoy.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 May 2000, Mark Huang wrote: > I made a few other changes to make it easier to replace the > erase_sector() and write_sector() functions for different kinds of flash > and can submit those in a patch if you like. Any patch you may come with will be greatly appreciated. > One other question I have is what happened to the sync() interface for > custom block drivers? The only way I can flush the cache manually is to > umount the device. I probably got lost during the port to 2.3.x... Some improvements are still needed there indeed. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jun 1 07:12:05 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id HAA16218; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 07:12:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15523 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 07:12:03 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id WAA30453; Wed, 31 May 2000 22:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26819; Wed, 31 May 2000 22:10:20 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA23257; Wed, 31 May 2000 22:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA13683; Wed, 31 May 2000 22:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10688; Wed, 31 May 2000 22:07:42 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id WAA32432 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 22:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA24623 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 01:06:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 01:06:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Subject: diff-2.4.0-test1-ac6-rmk1-np1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk ... is available at usual places This contains: - Initial Neponset support John G Dorsey - PCMCIA updates John G Dorsey - Fixes to the framebuffer driver for Assabet Chan Tak Shing Tho (if it doesn't work, try replacing the BCR_set by BCR_set in line 1177 of drivers/video/sa1100fb.c. Please tell me what works for you) - UDA1341 is now using the sound registration interface and configurable in the "sound" section. Some parts look hackish to me ATM... It should get fixed in a near future. Note the patch order is actually the following: linux-2.4.0-test1.tar.gz patch-2.4.0test1-ac6.gz patch-2.4.0-test1-ac6-rmk1.gz diff-2.4.0-test1-ac6-rmk1-np1.gz Enjoy! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jun 2 09:19:35 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id JAA20415; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:19:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19121 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:19:29 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id AAA13552; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 00:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18026; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 00:17:30 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA05791; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 00:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA05693; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 00:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07697; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 00:10:57 -0700 Received: from iron.singnet.com.sg (smtp1.singnet.com.sg [165.21.7.81]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id AAA06987 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 00:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wks1 (ad202.166.105.161.magix.com.sg [202.166.105.161]) by iron.singnet.com.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA18642; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:09:51 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <001c01bfcc62$5e38b820$0864a8c0@wks1> From: "Toong See Wan" To: "linux-arm mailing List" , Subject: How to flash the zImage (kernel) to the Assabet flash and have angel boot from it? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:15:44 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01BFCCA5.6C18D4A0" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BFCCA5.6C18D4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have successfully compiled the kernel download the kernel to Assabet. = However the utility provide by Nicolas downloaded the image to the = SDRAM . How can I load it to the StrataFlash and have angel boot from = there? seewan ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BFCCA5.6C18D4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I have successfully compiled the kernel = download=20 the kernel to Assabet. However the utility provide by Nicolas  = downloaded=20 the image to the SDRAM . How can I load it to the StrataFlash and have = angel=20 boot from there?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BFCCA5.6C18D4A0-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jun 2 15:57:46 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA21797; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:57:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01317 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:57:43 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA30193; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 06:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12122; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 06:56:04 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA14131; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 06:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA14108; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 06:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16388; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 06:54:40 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vipswitch.com ([205.250.170.220]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA00386 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 06:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:50:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Toong See Wan Cc: linux-arm mailing List , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: How to flash the zImage (kernel) to the Assabet flash and have angel boot from it? In-Reply-To: <001c01bfcc62$5e38b820$0864a8c0@wks1> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Toong See Wan wrote: > Hi, > > I have successfully compiled the kernel download the kernel to Assabet. However the utility provide by Nicolas downloaded the image to the SDRAM . How can I load it to the StrataFlash and have angel boot from there? IMHO the best thing to do would be porting BLOB to Assabet. Any volunteer? Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jun 2 16:54:21 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA21948; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:54:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03293 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:54:04 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA05114; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 07:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15328; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 07:52:45 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA16078; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 07:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA16074; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 07:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27876; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 07:51:11 -0700 Received: from ice.ar51.net (ice.fiftyone.com [208.225.80.11]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA04039 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 07:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server01.asi (akron-80-150.ar51.net [208.225.80.150]) by ice.ar51.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA24314; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:50:22 -0400 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:51:05 -0400 Message-Id: From: Jeff Sutherland To: "'Nicolas Pitre'" , "'Toong See Wan'" Cc: "'linux-arm mailing List'" , "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Subject: RE: How to flash the zImage (kernel) to the Assabet flash and hav eangel boot from it? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:50:49 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Toong See Wan wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have successfully compiled the kernel download the kernel > to Assabet. However the utility provide by Nicolas > downloaded the image to the SDRAM . How can I load it to the > StrataFlash and have angel boot from there? > > IMHO the best thing to do would be porting BLOB to Assabet. > Any volunteer? > > > Nicolas Well, it's halfway there :) At least the SDRAM setup was reported to work in an early version. I've made changes to bring the CPU speed up to 221MHz, but presently it only supports the SDRAM on the Assabet board, not the Neponset add-on. Plus, I never fooled around with the flash downloading part. If anyone wants to hack away at the flashing part let me know and I'll send you the archive. //Jeff mailto:jsutherland@accelent.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Jun 4 05:40:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA27311; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 05:40:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA07281 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 05:40:05 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA06859; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20369; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:37:32 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA08557; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA08585; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10077; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:33:53 -0700 Received: from smtp4.singnet.com.sg (smtp4.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.224]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id UAA02588 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wks1 (ad202.166.105.168.magix.com.sg [202.166.105.168]) by smtp4.singnet.com.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA06282; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 11:32:39 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from seewan@surreal.com.sg) Message-Id: <001201bfcdd6$636c4a80$0864a8c0@wks1> From: "Toong See Wan" To: "Nicolas Pitre" Cc: "linux-arm mailing List" , References: Subject: Re: How to flash the zImage (kernel) to the Assabet flash and haveangel boot from it? Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 11:38:45 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk I will volunteer to write a bootloader for the Assabet that boot from flash. But I will need alot of help as I am new to this. See Wan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolas Pitre" To: "Toong See Wan" Cc: "linux-arm mailing List" ; Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 9:50 PM Subject: Re: How to flash the zImage (kernel) to the Assabet flash and haveangel boot from it? > > > On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Toong See Wan wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have successfully compiled the kernel download the kernel to Assabet. However the utility provide by Nicolas downloaded the image to the SDRAM . How can I load it to the StrataFlash and have angel boot from there? > > IMHO the best thing to do would be porting BLOB to Assabet. > Any volunteer? > > > Nicolas > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Jun 4 09:04:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id JAA27721; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:04:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09006 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:04:51 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id AAA13842; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 00:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16716; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 00:02:29 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA12740; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 00:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA11734; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 00:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30907; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 00:00:14 -0700 Received: from www.ntust.edu.tw ([140.118.31.56]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id XAA14483 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 23:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ntust.edu.tw (mail.ntust.edu.tw [140.118.31.60]) by www.ntust.edu.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15174; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 14:55:51 +0800 (CST) Received: from mail.ntust.edu.tw (mail.ntust.edu.tw [140.118.31.60]) by mail.ntust.edu.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA09614; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 14:55:47 +0800 (CST) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 14:55:47 +0800 (CST) From: Chester To: Jeff Sutherland Cc: "'Nicolas Pitre'" , "'Toong See Wan'" , "'linux-arm mailing List'" , "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Subject: RE: How to flash the zImage (kernel) to the Assabet flash and hav eangel boot from it? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > > IMHO the best thing to do would be porting BLOB to Assabet. > > Any volunteer? > > > > > > Nicolas > Well, I just send a blob-1.0.7b patch that modified by me and Jeff to Erik ,it should works fine with Assabet and other SA-1100 board,hope it will be released on next version of blob. Best regards, Chester From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jun 5 05:47:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA00944; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 05:47:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28841 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 05:47:56 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA08959; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 20:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05128; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 20:46:07 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA09404; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 20:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA08918; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 20:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19164; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 20:42:11 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id UAA09206 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 20:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16132 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 23:41:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 23:41:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Subject: diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk ... is available at the usual sites. This contains: - GPIO and SA1111 IRQ handling cleanup (probably not complete for the extra IRQs on the Neponset) - PCMCIA reorganization (since it is now part of the kernel proper... It looks much cleaner in /driver/pcmcia with a separate file for each implementation.) - TouchScreen driver, contributed by (not fully integrated yet, but might inspire others...) This is actually the first incarnation of a large cleanup. Hopefully there isn't too much breakages. Now *before* registering an IRQ which is a GPIO line, you must call set_GPIO_IRQ_edge() to determine on which edge transition on the line an IRQ must be triggered. The drivers/pcmcia/sa1100_assabet.c should give a good usage example. If you have any comments please don't hesitate to send them to me. Note the patch order is actually the following: linux-2.4.0-test1.tar.gz: ftp.*.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/ patch-2.4.0test1-ac7.gz: ftp.*.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/2.4.0test/ patch-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1.gz: ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/source/kernel-patches/v2.4/ diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np1.gz: ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ or ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/people/nico/ Enjoy! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jun 5 21:17:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA06684; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 21:17:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA04615 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 21:17:05 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA12098; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 12:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09114; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 12:15:24 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA02975; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 12:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA02823; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 12:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19225; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 12:14:01 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA00094 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 12:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA06661; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 21:12:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from erik@localhost) by kalman.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) id VAA31839; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 21:12:22 +0200 Message-Id: <200006051912.VAA31839@kalman.et.tudelft.nl> Subject: Re: How to flash the zImage (kernel) to the Assabet flash and hav eangel boot from it? In-Reply-To: from Chester at "Jun 4, 0 02:55:47 pm" To: B8502004@ntust.edu.tw (Chester) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 21:12:22 +0200 (CEST) Cc: jsutherland@accelent.com, nico@CAM.ORG, seewan@surreal.com.sg, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com From: J.A.K.Mouw@ITS.TUDelft.NL (Erik Mouw) Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Chester wrote: > > > Well, I just send a blob-1.0.7b patch that modified by me and Jeff to Erik > ,it should works fine with Assabet and other SA-1100 board,hope it will be Yep, I received the patch, I suppose this is supersedes Jeff' patch he send me earlier? Anyway, I'll try to integrate it into blob and call the complete stuff blob-1.0.8. Note that I am officially on holidays, so it might take some time before I am online again. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2783635 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email: J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jun 6 10:18:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA10316; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:18:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24363 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:18:31 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA22968; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 01:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13396; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 01:16:20 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA28683; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 01:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA28694; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 01:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16988; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 01:12:55 -0700 Received: from lakdiva.slt.lk ([204.143.96.17]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id BAA14993 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 01:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obelix.atpos.lk ([203.115.31.220]) by lakdiva.slt.lk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA26026; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:07:45 -0600 (GMT) Received: from U2 ([192.1.1.25]) by obelix.atpos.lk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id ML5XN5S0; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:59:59 +0600 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:55:27 +0600 (LKT) From: Nandana Kuruwitage X-Sender: root@u2 Reply-To: Harsha Sanjeewa To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: SA-1100/Linux Subject: Re: diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np1 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hi, I tried to copile the new kernel with both diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np1 and diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np2. But they gave the following errors. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ arm-linux-ld -p -X -T arch/arm/vmlinux.lds arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.o arch/arm/kernel/init_task.o init/main.o init/version.o \ --start-group \ arch/arm/kernel/kernel.o arch/arm/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o mm/mm.o fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o \ drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.o drivers/misc/misc.o drivers/net/net.o drivers/parport/parport.a drivers/video/video.o arch/arm/special/special.a \ net/network.a \ arch/arm/nwfpe/math-emu.o arch/arm/lib/lib.o arch/arm/lib/lib.a /opt/ARM/build/linux/lib/lib.a /usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/2.95.2/soft-float/libgcc.a \ --end-group \ -o vmlinux arch/arm/special/special.a(mcp_common.o): In function `sa1100_mcp_common_init': /opt/ARM/build/linux/arch/arm/special/mcp_common.c(.text.init+0x1c): undefined reference to `proc_register' /opt/ARM/build/linux/arch/arm/special/mcp_common.c(.text.init+0x1c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 proc_register arch/arm/special/special.a(audio-sa1100-mcp.o): In function `lg': /opt/ARM/build/linux/arch/arm/special/audio-sa1100-mcp.c:394: undefined reference to `proc_register' /opt/ARM/build/linux/arch/arm/special/audio-sa1100-mcp.c:394: relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 proc_register make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Any Idea Regards, Harsha From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jun 6 18:18:44 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA14470; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 18:18:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JQAJ18PO0G8ZDVCI@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 18:19:19 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-33 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FVQ00E2UQGWRD@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Tue, 06 Jun 2000 18:14:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA28235; Tue, 06 Jun 2000 09:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11961; Tue, 06 Jun 2000 09:09:34 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA06599; Tue, 06 Jun 2000 09:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA06799; Tue, 06 Jun 2000 09:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15348; Tue, 06 Jun 2000 09:08:26 -0700 Received: from thalia.fm.intel.com (thalia.fm.intel.com [132.233.247.11]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id JAA29195 for ; Tue, 06 Jun 2000 09:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SMTP (fmsmsxvs05-1.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.205]) by thalia.fm.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.29 2000/05/27 05:56:37 nzand Exp $) with SMTP id QAA19910; Tue, 06 Jun 2000 16:08:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fmsmsx28.FM.INTEL.COM ([132.233.48.28]) by 132.233.48.205 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Tue, 06 Jun 2000 16:07:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fmsmsx28.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 06 Jun 2000 09:07:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 09:07:24 -0700 From: "Meng, David" Subject: Start up code Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com To: "'George France'" Cc: linux-arm mailing List , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Message-id: <4EE51D128990D211AC4100A0C96B1E440314448C@fmsmsx74.fm.intel.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk Hi George: How are you doing today? I get a question about the start up code for strong ARM platform. How should I modify the start.S (also init.c, abi-note.S) in glibc so I can build a crt1.o ( also include crti.o crtbegin.o crtend.o and crtn.o)file to build an application. My toolcahin can build linux kernel. I know I should modify the start up code to make the application. Please let me know how did you build all these start up files in order to build an application. Thanks a lot. David Meng From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jun 7 04:22:31 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA16602; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 04:22:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA22833 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 04:22:28 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA00364; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01239; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:20:22 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA03867; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA03919; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:18:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32070; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:18:35 -0700 Received: from linux.org.tw (tlug.sinica.edu.tw [140.109.13.42]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id TAA00206 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (chester@localhost) by linux.org.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10256; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:20:50 +0800 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:20:49 +0800 (CST) To: nico@CAM.ORG Cc: chester@linux.org.tw, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np1 (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > patch-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1.gz: > ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/source/kernel-patches/v2.4/ > diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np1.gz: > ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ or > ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/people/nico/ > > Enjoy! > > > Nicolas > Hi, i have found that this patch already include neponset support,but when i combined assabet and neponset together,nothing happen on minicom screen(kernel didn't boot at all).Also i have change neponset jumper to fit this. Myabe i should try np2 patch ..! Chester From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jun 7 04:23:36 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA16615; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 04:23:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA22859 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 04:23:33 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA01582; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26451; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:22:05 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA03713; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA02339; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05037; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:21:58 -0700 Received: from pikachu.idthk.com (pc125.idthk.com [210.184.5.125]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id TAA29358 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (thomas@localhost) by pikachu.idthk.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA29603; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:23:24 +0800 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:23:24 +0800 (CST) From: Tak-Shing Chan To: Harsha Sanjeewa Cc: SA-1100/Linux Subject: Re: diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np1 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Harsha, mcp_common.c relies on the proc_register() function when CONFIG_PROC_FS is defined. Unfortunately, proc_register() is no longer a public-callable function in linux-2.4.0-test1-ac7 on all platforms. A quick and dirty fix is to delete the ``static'' keyword at line 346 of linux/fs/proc/generic.c. If you don't want to mess with Linus' code, you can #undef CONFIG_PROC_FS at the beginning of linux/arch/arm/special/mcp_common.c, but you will lose the /proc stuffs. Of course the best way is to rewrite the proc stuffs in mcp_common.c. I believe Nicolas is already fixing it. Tak-Shing Chan On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Nandana Kuruwitage wrote: > Hi, > I tried to copile the new kernel with both > diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np1 and > diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np2. > But they gave the following errors. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > arm-linux-ld -p -X -T arch/arm/vmlinux.lds arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.o > arch/arm/kernel/init_task.o init/main.o init/version.o \ > --start-group \ > arch/arm/kernel/kernel.o arch/arm/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o mm/mm.o > fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o \ > drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.o drivers/misc/misc.o > drivers/net/net.o drivers/parport/parport.a drivers/video/video.o > arch/arm/special/special.a \ > net/network.a \ > arch/arm/nwfpe/math-emu.o arch/arm/lib/lib.o arch/arm/lib/lib.a > /opt/ARM/build/linux/lib/lib.a > /usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/2.95.2/soft-float/libgcc.a \ > --end-group \ > -o vmlinux > arch/arm/special/special.a(mcp_common.o): In function > `sa1100_mcp_common_init': > /opt/ARM/build/linux/arch/arm/special/mcp_common.c(.text.init+0x1c): undefined > reference to `proc_register' > /opt/ARM/build/linux/arch/arm/special/mcp_common.c(.text.init+0x1c): relocation > truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 proc_register > arch/arm/special/special.a(audio-sa1100-mcp.o): In function `lg': > /opt/ARM/build/linux/arch/arm/special/audio-sa1100-mcp.c:394: undefined > reference to `proc_register' > /opt/ARM/build/linux/arch/arm/special/audio-sa1100-mcp.c:394: relocation > truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 proc_register > make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Any Idea > > Regards, > Harsha > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jun 8 11:45:41 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA21821; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:03:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00241 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:03:53 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA22626; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08060; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:02:12 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA23903; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA30023; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:00:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02951; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:00:24 -0700 Received: from cmdexsvr.cmd.com (lnxfirefox.cmd.com [192.122.179.28]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA24586 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by cmdexsvr.cmd.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:03:23 -0700 Message-Id: To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Problems writing back dirty data from the SA-110 data cache Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:03:20 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk We are trying to port linux/drivers/scsi/advansys.c to a StrongArm platform running Linux 2.2.13. We are experiencing cache coherency problems between the SA-110 and a PCI master (AdvanSys SCSI chip). We have attempted to implement the cache write back and invalidate functions in linux/arch/arm/mm/proc-sa110.s to achieve cache coherency, but every attempt has resulted in memory corruption and memory violations. To help diagnose the problem, we simplified our strategy to rely primarily on the "_sa110_flush_cache_all" function which does a 16K read from the Footbridge SA-110 Cache Flush area followed by an SA-110 Coprocessor "Drain Write Buffer" instruction. Attaching an analyzer to the processor bus and the PCI bus we can see the following sequence for a particular command the driver queues to the SCSI chip. (Note: the command structures are cache line aligned and are exactly three cache lines in length.) 1. The driver calls "_sa110_flush_cache_all" to write back and invalidate the command structure from the cache. During the 16K read loop, two of the three cache lines belonging to the command structure are successfully written to the processor bus. The third cache line is not written even though it was modified by the processor. 2. The driver updates command queue linkage and calls "_sa110_cache_wback_area" to write back the modified linkage. This function also includes an SA-110 Coprocessor "Drain Write Buffer" instruction. 3. The processor performs an unbuffered write to the SCSI chip to inform the chip of the new command. 4. The SCSI chip reads the command structure from processor memory. 5. The third cache line is finally written to the processor bus (75 us after step 3, 14 us after step 4) the next time "_sa110_flush_cache_all" is called (apparently by the kernel). 6. The SCSI chip returns the corrupted command structure to the driver. From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jun 8 11:43:22 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA23690; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 06:10:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17475 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 06:10:26 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id VAA30866; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 21:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22506; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 21:08:46 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA12469; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 21:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA16441; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 21:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10777; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 21:06:42 -0700 Received: from pikachu.idthk.com (pc125.idthk.com [210.184.5.125]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id VAA06404 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 21:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (thomas@localhost) by pikachu.idthk.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA11334; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:07:48 +0800 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:07:48 +0800 (CST) From: Tak-Shing Chan To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: Harsha Sanjeewa , SA-1100/Linux Subject: Re: diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np1 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Tak-Shing Chan wrote: > Hi Nicolas and Harsha, > > Here's the proc_register() <-> create_proc_info_entry() > patch for diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np[1-3]. > > Tak-Shing Chan I forgot that proc_unregister() is also outdated. Here's the final patch against diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np[1-3]: --- linux/arch/arm/special/audio-sa1100-mcp.c.orig Wed Jun 7 17:19:13 2000 +++ linux/arch/arm/special/audio-sa1100-mcp.c Thu Jun 8 11:51:56 2000 @@ -352,20 +352,6 @@ #ifdef CONFIG_PROC_FS static int audio_get_info(char *, char **, off_t, int); - -static struct proc_dir_entry audio_proc_entry = { - 0, /* low ino: the Inode is dynamic */ - 9, "audio_mcp", /* the lenght and name */ - S_IFREG | S_IRUGO, /* the file mode */ - 1, 0, 0, /* nr. links, owner, group */ - 0, /* size; unused */ - NULL, /* inode operations */ - NULL, /* read data */ - audio_get_info, /* get info */ - NULL, /* fill inode */ - NULL, /* next */ - NULL, NULL, /* parent, subdir */ -}; #endif /* CONFIG_PROC_FS */ /* @@ -4040,7 +4026,7 @@ #ifdef CONFIG_PROC_FS /* register procfs device */ - proc_register(&proc_root, &audio_proc_entry); + create_proc_info_entry("audio_mcp", 0, NULL, audio_get_info); #endif /* CONFIG_PROC_FS */ /* log device registration */ @@ -4077,12 +4063,7 @@ #ifdef CONFIG_PROC_FS /* unregister procfs entry */ - if ((err = proc_unregister(&proc_root, audio_proc_entry.low_ino)) != 0) - { -#ifdef AUDIO_DEBUG - printk(AUDIO_NAME ": cleanup_module: proc_unregister(audio) %d\n", err); -#endif - } + remove_proc_entry("audio_mcp", NULL); #endif /* CONFIG_PROC_FS */ /* unregister driver */ --- linux/arch/arm/special/mcp_common.c.orig Wed Jun 7 17:20:39 2000 +++ linux/arch/arm/special/mcp_common.c Thu Jun 8 11:53:42 2000 @@ -126,20 +126,6 @@ #ifdef CONFIG_PROC_FS static int mcp_get_info(char *, char **, off_t, int); - -static struct proc_dir_entry mcp_proc_entry = { - 0, /* low ino: the Inode is dynamic */ - 3, "mcp", /* the length and name */ - S_IFREG | S_IRUGO, /* the file mode */ - 1, 0, 0, /* nr. links, owner, group */ - 0, /* size; unused */ - NULL, /* inode operations */ - NULL, /* read data */ - mcp_get_info, /* get info */ - NULL, /* fill inode */ - NULL, /* next */ - NULL, NULL, /* parent, subdir */ -}; #endif /* CONFIG_PROC_FS */ /* @@ -515,7 +501,7 @@ #ifdef CONFIG_PROC_FS /* register procfs devices */ - proc_register(&proc_root, &mcp_proc_entry); + create_proc_info_entry("mcp", 0, NULL, mcp_get_info); #endif /* CONFIG_PROC_FS */ #ifdef CONFIG_POWERMGR @@ -562,12 +548,7 @@ #ifdef CONFIG_PROC_FS /* unregister procfs entries */ - if ((err = proc_unregister(&proc_root, mcp_proc_entry.low_ino)) != 0) - { -#ifdef MCP_DEBUG - printk(MCP_MODULE_NAME ": cleanup_module: proc_unregister %d\n", err); -#endif - } + remove_proc_entry("mcp", NULL); #endif /* CONFIG_PROC_FS */ #ifdef CONFIG_POWERMGR From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jun 8 11:43:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id HAA23884; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 07:26:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18696 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 07:26:03 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id WAA02483; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30396; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:24:36 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA20496; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA20500; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20746; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:23:43 -0700 Received: from lakdiva.slt.lk (lakdiva.slt.lk [204.143.96.17]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id WAA08582 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obelix.atpos.lk ([203.115.31.220]) by lakdiva.slt.lk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07279; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:18:46 -0600 (GMT) Received: from U2 ([192.1.1.25]) by obelix.atpos.lk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id MMG6V7MP; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:12:18 +0600 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:06:25 +0600 (LKT) From: Harsha Sanjeewa X-Sender: root@u2 Reply-To: Harsha Sanjeewa To: Tak-Shing Chan Cc: Nicolas Pitre , SA-1100/Linux Subject: Re: diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np1 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hi Chan, Your patch worked.Thanks a lot. I complied the kernel and downloaded it to SA1100 Brutus board. Once downloaded it takes long time to reach the login prompt. Then the CPU hangs and LCD goes blank. It cant allocate the keyboard IRQ either. Any Help ? Regards, Harsha From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jun 8 11:43:03 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id IAA24018; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:06:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19557 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:06:37 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id XAA14934; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05785; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:05:13 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA21277; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA12312; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12233; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:04:51 -0700 Received: from pikachu.idthk.com (pc125.idthk.com [210.184.5.125]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id XAA15301 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (thomas@localhost) by pikachu.idthk.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA14385; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:06:19 +0800 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:06:19 +0800 (CST) From: Tak-Shing Chan To: Harsha Sanjeewa Cc: SA-1100/Linux Subject: Re: diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np1 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hi, I don't have a Brutus board here... Anyone else? Tak-Shing Chan On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Harsha Sanjeewa wrote: > Hi Chan, > Your patch worked.Thanks a lot. > I complied the kernel and > downloaded it to SA1100 Brutus board. Once > downloaded it takes long time to reach > the login prompt. Then the CPU hangs and > LCD goes blank. It cant allocate the > keyboard IRQ either. Any Help ? > > Regards, > Harsha > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jun 8 23:17:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA06021; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 23:17:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29679 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 23:17:13 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA13594; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00493; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:15:26 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA15214; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA15353; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06021; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:12:29 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vip.ca ([205.250.170.220]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA29923 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 17:08:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Dan Malek Cc: john+@cs.cmu.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: Assabet In-Reply-To: <393FEAFE.33B90CC5@embeddededge.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Dan Malek wrote: > > > Hi guys. > > I just wanted to let you know that I am spending time working on > the Assabet. I am new to the StrongARM development, but I continue > to do lots of the embedded PowerPC development. > > I have three projects in the fire. One is USB (host and function), and > IP over USB. Another is the MediaQ graphics board. Last is the Ethernet. > Not in any particular order (i.e. all high priority :-). Ethernet is pretty much taken care of now. USB (slave only for Assabet but master for Neponset) is currently an unexplored project. Idem for the graphic board which I never seen any sign of existence yet. > I would like to know what mailing lists would be good so I don't miss > information, and where I can send patches for updates. I make my patch announcements on sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com. Relevant mailing lists also include those mentionned on www.arm.linux.org.uk. You can send any patch you make to me or share them on the sa1100 mailing list. > Oh yeah, I work for MontaVista software. We have a group in Sunnyvale > that has built cross development tools, libraries and file systems. They > are attempting to build a in-line floating point version of the libraries > and applications like we did for the embedded PowerPC processors. I > was intending to use 2.4.0-test1-ac7 as the baseline for our development > for a while. All of this is (or soon will be) on the ftp server. > > Thanks for your help. > > > > -- Dan > From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jun 9 04:14:49 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA07600; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 04:14:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA06534 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 04:14:47 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA24374; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00928; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:12:57 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA27054; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA27096; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00536; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:12:13 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id TAA07616 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18254 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 22:11:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 22:11:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Subject: diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np5.gz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk ... is now available. This contains: - last bit (hopefully) for Neponset interrupt support - various fixes to make Brutus, Thinclient and Graphicsclient compile again. - other things that I surely forget ATM. Enjoy! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jun 9 16:25:00 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA01095; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:25:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01971 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:24:58 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA19517; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 07:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09486; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 07:22:59 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA10513; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 07:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA10452; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 07:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20905; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 07:18:52 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA13130 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 07:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22002; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:17:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:17:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: dai Cc: SA-1100/Linux Subject: Re: diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np5.gz In-Reply-To: <3940AA3D.C7187C32@hw.ia.ac.cn> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, dai wrote: > nico, > i tried the patch,touch screen still refuse to response. > I wonder if GPIO_11_2_27 IRQs are corrected handled? They are, as PCMCIA support on Assabet is concerned. Notice that the irq number for GPIOs from 10 and above is not the same as the GPIO number. Also before a GPIO is registered for IRQ, the set_GPIO_IRQ_edge() function must be called for the IRQ to be effective. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jun 9 21:10:18 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA02355; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 21:10:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11761 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 21:10:15 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA06595; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26965; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:08:35 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA20835; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA22497; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10172; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:07:30 -0700 Received: from mail.trakonic.com (seascape-216.129.1.18.seascape.ns.ca [216.129.1.18] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA01169 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Moe (moe [192.168.10.43]) by mail.trakonic.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA00902 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:09:51 -0300 Message-Id: <005f01bfd245$edf07b40$2b0aa8c0@trakonic.com> From: "J.R. MacArthur" To: Subject: Compact Flash + SA1110 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:07:16 -0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk We are looking into developing Compact flash support for the SA1110 using the PCMCIA port of the SA1110. Has anyone out there worked on this already? I haven't been able to find much about this on any sites. ================================================= J.R. MacArthur Electrical Technologist Trakonic (www.trakonic.com) From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jun 9 21:20:22 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA02392; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 21:20:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11982 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 21:20:20 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA26426; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08022; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:19:00 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA23711; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA02640; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28547; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:18:48 -0700 Received: from smtp1.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP1.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.81]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA06422 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix10.andrew.cmu.edu (UNIX10.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.15.14]) by smtp1.andrew.cmu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA01514; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 15:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 15:15:07 -0400 (EDT) From: John G Dorsey To: "J.R. MacArthur" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: Compact Flash + SA1110 In-Reply-To: <005f01bfd245$edf07b40$2b0aa8c0@trakonic.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, J.R. MacArthur wrote: > We are looking into developing Compact flash support for the SA1110 using > the PCMCIA port of the SA1110. Has anyone out there worked on this already? > I haven't been able to find much about this on any sites. http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~wearable/software/pcmcia-arm.html It's a wee bit stale at the moment, because of the volume of patches which were released in the last week involving PCMCIA. Nicolas' most recent release (2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np5) looks pretty close to being right, modulo a slight change in interrupt configuration for Neponset. -jd From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Jun 11 10:06:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA07103; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:06:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19196 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:06:31 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA15888; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 01:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01086; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 01:04:33 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA12475; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 00:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA12933; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 00:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07075; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 00:59:42 -0700 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (p52-cordelia-gui.tch.enablis.net [212.250.233.52]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id AAA05094 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 00:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flint.arm.linux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15674; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 08:59:19 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01727; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 08:55:23 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Message-Id: <200006110755.IAA01727@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Subject: Re: Problems writing back dirty data from the SA-110 data cache To: Ezell@cmdexsvr.cmd.com Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 08:55:22 +0100 (BST) Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com In-Reply-To: from "Ezell@cmdexsvr.cmd.com" at Jun 07, 2000 11:03:20 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Ezell@cmdexsvr.cmd.com writes: > We are trying to port linux/drivers/scsi/advansys.c to a StrongArm platform > running Linux 2.2.13. Well, first thing here is that things have moved on a lot since 2.2.13. We now have a better generic PCI cache coherent API for non-coherent architectures in the 2.3 development trees and 2.4.0test1 kernels. > We have attempted to implement the cache write back and invalidate > functions in linux/arch/arm/mm/proc-sa110.s to achieve cache coherency, These are already implemented as dma_cache_{inv,wback,wback_inv} functions. However, there is a fundamental problem with these if you have data in the same half of a cacheline which can be modified by both from the CPU and the PCI bus. In this circumstance, the data which actually ends up in the RAM can be indeterminant. > 1. The driver calls "_sa110_flush_cache_all" to write back and > invalidate the command structure from the cache. During the > 16K read loop, two of the three cache lines belonging to the > command structure are successfully written to the processor > bus. The third cache line is not written even though it was > modified by the processor. I hope this is not called from an interrupt. _sa110_flush_cache_all is not interrupt-safe when called from interrupts (which is another reason why not to use the old interface). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Jun 11 23:05:09 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA08549; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:05:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29848 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:05:06 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA16880; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 14:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30521; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 14:02:59 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA28717; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA27417; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:58:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26435; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:58:36 -0700 Received: from www.darktech.org ([209.10.219.126]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA24422; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:58:36 -0700 (PDT) To: @pa.net@pa.dec.com Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 16:45:15 -0500 Subject: Mortgage Loans "WE Do All The Work" Message-Id: <6056qloqws4.2gfb6tj4ekka@y78e6qbo.sv012.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk
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From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jun 12 05:05:52 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA09409; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 05:05:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA05231 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 05:05:50 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA08546; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04396; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:03:46 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA04160; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA03035; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18700; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:01:39 -0700 Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (smtp.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id UAA14836 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zskiraly (mhl-ca16-61.ix.netcom.com [206.216.66.61]) by smtp.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA13373; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 19:57:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Zsolt Kiraly" To: "Nicolas Pitre" Cc: Subject: question on cache issues on sa-1100 Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 19:56:42 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hi Nicolas, If I remember correctly there were some cache problems with linux and sa-1100 cpu. Unfortunately I don't remember the resolution. Could you point me to some resource about this issue, or maybe provide a brief explanation yourself (although I know you are busy) ? I am particularly interested to know if the cache is actually used on the sa-1100 by linux. I would appreciate input on this issue from anyone else as well. Thanks, Zsolt zskiraly@stanford.edu From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jun 12 20:05:00 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA11772; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:04:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22896 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:04:53 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA14371; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22348; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:14:57 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA18878; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA02804; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21245; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:39:46 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vip.ca ([205.250.170.220]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA23506 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:35:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Zsolt Kiraly Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: question on cache issues on sa-1100 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Zsolt Kiraly wrote: > Hi Nicolas, Hi! It has been a long time... > If I remember correctly there were some cache problems with linux and > sa-1100 cpu. Unfortunately I don't remember the resolution. Could you point > me to some resource about this issue, or maybe provide a brief explanation > yourself (although I know you are busy) ? I am particularly interested to > know if the cache is actually used on the sa-1100 by linux. Yes it is. If you refer to the problem we had one and a half year ago, it has been nuked quickly. ;-) Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jun 12 20:05:03 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA11776; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:05:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22905 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:05:01 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA14519; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22604; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:27:48 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA19584; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA25028; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04974; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:59:44 -0700 Received: from ims.crl.dec.com (ims.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.11]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id LAA13757; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:59:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ims.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:04:28 -0400 Message-Id: From: George France To: "'Zsolt Kiraly'" , Nicolas Pitre Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: RE: question on cache issues on sa-1100 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:59:22 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk the solution is pci_alloc_consistent. The docs are in the linux/docs/DMA-mappings.txt files. -George George France, france@crl.dec.com Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation One Cambridgecenter MS: CRL Cambridge, MA 02142 USA -----Original Message----- From: Zsolt Kiraly [mailto:zskiraly@leland.Stanford.EDU] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:57 PM To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: question on cache issues on sa-1100 Hi Nicolas, If I remember correctly there were some cache problems with linux and sa-1100 cpu. Unfortunately I don't remember the resolution. Could you point me to some resource about this issue, or maybe provide a brief explanation yourself (although I know you are busy) ? I am particularly interested to know if the cache is actually used on the sa-1100 by linux. I would appreciate input on this issue from anyone else as well. Thanks, Zsolt zskiraly@stanford.edu From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jun 13 06:09:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA13607; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:09:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA08076 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:09:54 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id VAA04946; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01827; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:07:46 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA12139; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA06225; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08106; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:05:55 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id VAA22681 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA05569 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:05:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:05:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Subject: diff-2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np6.gz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk ... is now available. This contains: - more IRQ work for multiplexed GPIOs - external IRQ handler for Thinclient / GraphicsClient - more Neponset PCMCIA hacks John G Dorsey [ this is becoming really ugly... :-( What a mess Intel did with that board... ] - read buffer support + LART stuff Erik Mouw - fix for Thinclient on-board ethernet Mark Lehrer / Greg Haerr [ it finally works ! ] Enjoy! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jun 14 07:54:33 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id HAA24339; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:54:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29744 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:54:31 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id WAA17079; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26527; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:51:30 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA23512; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA21410; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:47:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24961; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:47:13 -0700 Received: from linux.org.tw (tlug.sinica.edu.tw [140.109.13.42]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id WAA23335 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (chester@localhost) by linux.org.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02124; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:49:40 +0800 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:49:40 +0800 (CST) To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Cc: lart@lart.tudelft.nl Subject: blob for assabet Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hi..! I have receive a lot of mail about blob on assabet,and i think it's ready for use. This is work is only for Assabet,not for other sa1100 eval board,if you using Toshiba SDRM on Intel board.Just try it. PS,the offical release of blob on assabet will as soon as possible,i think! (Erik ???) go ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/c/chester/blob-sa1110-assabet.tgz Good luck. Chester From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jun 14 21:48:26 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA29824; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:48:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06416 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:48:23 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA01493; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18926; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:42:38 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA11002; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA14568; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18825; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:41:06 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA30401 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalman.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA29771; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:39:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from erik@localhost) by kalman.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) id VAA26516; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:39:47 +0200 Message-Id: <200006141939.VAA26516@kalman.et.tudelft.nl> Subject: Re: blob for assabet In-Reply-To: from "chester@linux.org.tw" at "Jun 14, 0 01:49:40 pm" To: chester@linux.org.tw Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:39:47 +0200 (CEST) Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, lart@lart.tudelft.nl From: J.A.K.Mouw@ITS.TUDelft.NL (Erik Mouw) Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Chester wrote: > I have receive a lot of mail about blob on assabet,and i think it's > ready for use. > This is work is only for Assabet,not for other sa1100 eval board,if you > using Toshiba SDRM on Intel board.Just try it. > PS,the offical release of blob on assabet will as soon as possible,i > think! (Erik ???) I'm working on blob-1.0.8, which will have support for Assabet, Brutus, LART, and PLEB. I'm currently at 80%: the C parts have been done, and I am working on the assembly merge. As I am officialy on vacations, I can only check if the stuff compiles correctly, not if it actually runs. I'll contact you as soon as I am back and give you my preliminary patch to test it. > go > > ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/c/chester/blob-sa1110-assabet.tgz I have currently no way of downloading that onto my own laptop, so I hope that the differences with your patch against blob-1.0.7b aren't too big. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2783635 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email: J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jun 15 09:54:26 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id JAA02625; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:54:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24556 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:54:23 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id AAA09037; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17878; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:48:11 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA05455; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA02599; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:43:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17480; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:43:08 -0700 Received: from linux.org.tw (tlug.sinica.edu.tw [140.109.13.42]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id AAA07155 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (chester@localhost) by linux.org.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA30804; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:45:22 +0800 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:45:22 +0800 (CST) To: Erik Mouw Cc: chester@linux.org.tw, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, lart@lart.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: blob for assabet In-Reply-To: <200006141939.VAA26516@kalman.et.tudelft.nl> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > > ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/c/chester/blob-sa1110-assabet.tgz > > I have currently no way of downloading that onto my own laptop, so > I hope that the differences with your patch against blob-1.0.7b aren't > too big. > > > Erik This version is based on 1.0.5,start.s and serial.c have been modified for assabet board.(I think :p) Chester From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jun 16 00:15:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA07233; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 00:15:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02728 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 00:15:50 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA18132; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21576; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:10:04 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA32583; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA32618; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21684; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:07:22 -0700 Received: from handhelds.org (h0.handhelds.org [204.123.13.90]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA19573 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from handhelds.org (IDENT:jg@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by handhelds.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24457 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:06:09 -0700 Message-Id: <200006152206.PAA24457@handhelds.org> To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Establishment of handhelds.org Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:06:09 -0700 From: Jim Gettys Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk The open source and research communities have expressed great interest in the Itsy pocket computer research project of Compaq's corporate research labs. With the recent appearance on the market of products with most of the attributes that made the Itsy pocket computer so exciting, both from Compaq (the iPAQ H3600) and other companies, we believe that the time is ripe for more serious work in the general open source software community. handhelds.org ------------- Compaq's research groups have established the handhelds.org web site to help provide a focus and aid development of open source software on handheld and wearable computers in the open source software community. The intent of this web site is to act as a repository and development aid for open source software for all platforms, including Compaq's H3600. We are providing FTP and CVS repositories for open source software for handheld and wearable computers. These services are provided from Palo Alto, California, on a high speed network. Please send us mail if you have a project that would be helped by hosting of your project. Handhelds.org services include: o A mirror of Russell King's ARM Linux site o Nicolas Pitre's SA11XX Arm Linux patches o ARM V4L GNU compiler cross development tool chain for Linux and BSD o Carlton University's ARM V4L RPM files o Linux on the Philips Nino o Anonymous read access CVS repositories - of our bootloader/monitor for embedded devices, which runs out of Flash and is relocatable to any part of RAM - of the Linux kernel containing the latest changes to support the iPAQ H3600 and Itsy - of the X Window System for the iPAQ H3600 and Itsy - of open source software we have written or changed for Itsy, as we port it to the iPAQ H3600 and make it available o FTP archives of tarballs of releases of this software (when available) o The usual links page Patches of changes for the iPAQ H3600 are already being submitted for inclusion in the standard distributions of the base software: these CVS pools are being made available to enable more rapid development. We will have succeeded when these independent duplicate source pools of base open source components become unneeded! Mailing Lists ------------- Please join the mailing list handhelds@handhelds.org to discuss open source software for handhelds and wearable computers. We have also established the "linux@handhelds.org" and "netbsd@handhelds.org" mailing lists to provide forums to discuss specifically Linux and NetBSD kernel issues on handheld computers. To subscribe to any of these mailing lists, visit: http://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/handhelds http://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/linux http://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/netbsd or send mail to: handhelds-request@handhelds.org linux-request@handhelds.org netbsd-request@handhelds.org Further information ------------------- Mailing lists: handhelds@handhelds.org linux@handhelds.org netbsd@handhelds.org The Handhelds.org web site: http://handhelds.org Information about the Itsy hand held computer can be found at: http://www.research.compaq.com/wrl/itsy Information about the iPAQ H3600 Pocket PC product can be found at: http://www.compaq.com/products/handhelds/pocketpc/ For more information, please join one of the mailing lists mentioned above. Press inquiries should contact Eileen Quinn, eileen.quinn@compaq.com, at 408-285-9272. Credits ------- The Itsy Team: Compaq Western Research Lab: Joel Bartlett, Lawrence Brakmo, Keith Farkas, William Hamburgen, Marc Viredaz, Deborah Wallach Compaq Systems Research Center: Timothy Mann, Carl Waldspurger (now at VMWare) The Open Handheld Team: Compaq Cambridge Research Lab: George France, Jamey Hicks, Frank Bomba, Edwin Foo Compaq PAAD: Ed Gould, Tom Lawler, Dave Redell Compaq SEA: Blair Fidler, Charlie Flynn, Dirk van Hennekeler, Greg McCane Compaq CPCG: Jim Mann, Ken Nicholas Compaq Research: Jim Gettys, Dick Greeley, Ken Salsman Others: Self: Keith Packard, Nicolas Pitre, Steve Hill, Stan Thomas Our thanks to Kelly Martin who has been kind enough to make the domain handhelds.org name available. From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jun 16 00:15:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA07234; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 00:15:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02729 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 00:15:50 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA16569; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21663; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:10:08 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA32587; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA25819; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21716; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:08:23 -0700 Received: from handhelds.org (h0.handhelds.org [204.123.13.90]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA18236 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from handhelds.org (IDENT:jg@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by handhelds.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24470 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:07:10 -0700 Message-Id: <200006152207.PAA24470@handhelds.org> To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Open Source software running on iPAQ H3600 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:07:10 -0700 From: Jim Gettys Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On April 19, Compaq announced the iPAQ H3600. Many people have recognized the interesting capabilities of this device, and Compaq Research has been receiving inquiries from the research and open sourcen communities about it. These same communities have expressed great interest over the last several years in the Itsy pocket computer, a research prototype device with many hardware similarities to the iPAQ H3600, but running open source software. To satisfy these inquiries, we are happy to make the following announcement: Compaq's open handheld program ------------------------------ We have three primary goals: o Promote development and discussion of open source software for pocket and wearable computers in general, o Ensure that the results of our research in pocket computing (e.g. power management) are available to the community, o Ensure that current open source software runs on our new hand held computer. Open handhelds website ---------------------- Towards these goals, we have established the http://www.handhelds.org web site to act as a resource for open source software on handheld and wearable computers in general, not limited to Compaq's hardware. We hope that you will join us in making open source software work well on handheld and wearable computers in general, and you will join us in making open source software run well on our platforms. Linux for the iPAQ H3600 ------------------------ Compaq's Corporate Research group is porting current versions of the Linux kernel and XFree86 X server to the H3600, and updating to this software base the software developed specifically with the Itsy handheld computer. Most of the Itsy software, based on Linux 2.0.30, was made available to the open source development community in February. For the last several months we have been submitting patches to support the iPAQ H3600 back into the Linux and XFree86 development streams. The hardware design specification of the iPAQ H3600 is available and the mechanical specifications for the expansion packs will be available on Compaq's web site soon. While our kernel efforts are currently primarily focussed on Linux, a project has recently started to port NetBSD, and we will be happy to answer questions from people interested in porting other operating systems to the iPAQ H3600 PocketPC, which will become available for purchase in June. While we have been making great progress with Linux on the iPAQ H3600, the system is still in development. Linux 2.3.99pre1 was booted recently (since updated to Linux 2.4.0-test1-ac7) at Compaq's Cambridge Research Laboratory, and we are working on device drivers for the hardware and on integrating features developed in the Itsy software into current versions of open source software. XFree86 4.0 is also running on the iPAQ H3600. Mailing Lists ------------- Please join the mailing list handhelds@handhelds.org to discuss open source software for handhelds and wearable computers. We have also established the "linux@handhelds.org" and "netbsd@handhelds.org" mailing lists to provide forums to discuss specifically Linux and NetBSD kernel issues on handheld computers. To subscribe to either of these mailing lists, visit: http://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/handhelds http://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/linux http://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/netbsd or send mail to: handhelds-request@handhelds.org linux-request@handhelds.org netbsd-request@handhelds.org Further information about Compaq's handhelds research and products ------------------------------------------------------------------ Information about the iPAQ H3600 product can be found at: http://www.compaq.com/products/handhelds/pocketpc/ Information about the Itsy handheld computer can be found at: http://www.research.compaq.com/wrl/itsy The hardware specification for the iPAQ H3600 can be found at: http://www.handhelds.org/specs/Compaq/iPAQH3600/ http://www.handhelds.org/specs/Compaq/iPAQH3600/iPAQ_H3600.html Information about Compaq's corporate research labs can be found at: http://www.research.compaq.com/ For more information, please join one of the mailing lists mentioned above. Press inquiries should contact Eileen Quinn, eileen.quinn@compaq.com, at 408-285-9272. Credits ------- The Itsy Team: Compaq Western Research Lab: Joel Bartlett, Lawrence Brakmo, Keith Farkas,A William Hamburgen, Marc Viredaz, Deborah Wallach Compaq Systems Research Center: Timothy Mann, Carl Waldspurger (now at VMWare) The Open Handheld Team: Compaq Cambridge Research Lab: George France, Jamey Hicks, Frank Bomba, Edwin Foo Compaq PAAD: Ed Gould, Tom Lawler, Dave Redell Compaq SEA: Blair Fidler, Charlie Flynn, Dirk van Hennekeler, Greg McCane Compaq CPCG: Jim Mann, Ken Nicholas Compaq Research: Jim Gettys, Dick Greeley, Ken Salsman Others: Self: Keith Packard, Nicolas Pitre, Stan Thomas Our thanks to Kelly Martin who has been kind enough to make the domain handhelds.org name available. From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jun 16 16:28:19 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA11585; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:28:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05606 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:28:16 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA22045; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22710; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:26:30 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA26277; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA26385; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22830; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:23:27 -0700 Received: from xanadu.vip.ca ([205.250.170.220]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA27525 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:17:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Rick Schneeman Cc: LART List , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: Flash Driver and BLOB In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Rick Schneeman wrote: > Has anyone been able to use the Linux flash driver for the sa-1110 based > ASSABET? I am trying to use BLOB to boot the ramdisk/kernel pair in > standalone mode from the flash. I am trying to write the two images to the > flash device using the driver but have not been successful. Has anyone tried > this? I need to know if the partition information for the various defines in > the flash.h driver requires specific values or is it user defined. Also, > does anyone have any secrets for sucessfully making the flash filesystem and > writing the images to it? Finally, is there any special magic needed for > BLOB to understand that the two images are located in the flash area located > just after the BLOB. Erik seems to think there is none but he cannot > empirically test this out at the moment. Any help would be appreciated.... The "partition" concept is only a simple offset into the flash. Thus you should reserve a partition where BLOB and the kernel actually reside, and define some other partitions for the real filesystems. Next you might put any filesystem in the flash. JFFS would be the best choice but it is not ready yet. In the mean time ext2 might do it as well. You create a filesystem the same way you would for a ramdisk image. Then you only need to write that filesystem image file at the right offset in flash and tell the kernel to use the right device for its root filesystem. Eventually the flash driver would benifit from being merged with the MTD patches, but that's another matter. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jun 16 16:39:22 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA11645; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:39:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06290 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:39:19 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA26985; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21196; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:37:56 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA26413; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA21321; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23316; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:37:43 -0700 Received: from crlwebmail.crl.dec.com (crlwebmail.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.2]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id KAA06185; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:30:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crlwebmail.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:34:44 -0400 Message-Id: From: Jamey Hicks To: "'Nicolas Pitre'" , Rick Schneeman Cc: LART List , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: RE: Flash Driver and BLOB Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:29:56 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > Eventually the flash driver would benifit from being merged > with the MTD patches, but that's another matter. I agree that we should merge the flash driver with MTD. It's on my list of things to do, but I won't mind if someone else gets to it first. It should be very straightforward to make an MTD module from the flash driver. -Jamey From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jun 19 04:01:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA20003; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 04:01:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA07129 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 04:01:32 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id SAA09559; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07295; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:59:25 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA13628; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA14345; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31564; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:54:52 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id SAA07524 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14760 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:54:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:54:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Subject: diff-2.4.0-test1-ac19-rmk1-np1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk ... is available at ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/people/nico/ This contains: - mostly resynching with latest RMK patch - some initial work for a generic API for SA1100 DMA - SA1111 IRQ handling fixes Note that ftp.netwinder.org is unreachable for me ATM so the patch might not appear there for a while. Use the above mentionned site instead. Enjoy! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jun 19 15:16:37 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA22621; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:16:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28976 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:16:34 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA32633; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32724; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:14:35 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA03760; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA25179; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00002; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:13:22 -0700 Received: from eising.k-net.dk (eising.k-net.dtu.dk [130.225.71.227]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA25034 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:13:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obelix.vkr.k-net.dk (obelix.vkr.k-net.dk [192.38.209.3]) by eising.k-net.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0CEC1AA for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:13:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by OBELIX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:13:09 +0200 Message-Id: From: Anders Frederiksen To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Subject: SA1110 schematics symbol Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:13:06 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Has anyone drawn a SA1110 symbol for Orcad that they would kindly share? I'd prefer not to dabble the 256 pins in... Thanx in advance, Anders Frederiksen Anyway: If not I could share the resulting lib when finished if others are interested. From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jun 19 15:47:49 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA22762; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:47:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00521 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:47:47 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA31113; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30269; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:46:26 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA30171; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA30306; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00971; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:46:11 -0700 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA02481 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:44:21 +1000 From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" To: Anders Frederiksen Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:44:19 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Subject: Re: SA1110 schematics symbol In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Anders Frederiksen wrote: > Has anyone drawn a SA1110 symbol for Orcad that they would kindly share? I'd > prefer not to dabble the 256 pins in... Yes, I'll ask regarding it tommorow and try to forward it to you. Its only just been done so its not 'verified' yet... Its also pretty big. Cheers Adam > > Thanx in advance, > > Anders Frederiksen > > > Anyway: If not I could share the resulting lib when finished if others are > interested. > From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jun 20 08:10:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id IAA25314; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:10:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12957 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:10:03 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id XAA09286; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07464; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:05:38 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA02156; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id XAA02434; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11067; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:00:33 -0700 Received: from hpackers.com ([211.42.233.30]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id XAA03907 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vsausage ([211.42.233.14]) by hpackers.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA01090 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:59:50 +0900 From: "Lee, Yunseung" To: Subject: porting USB in Assabet(SA1110+SA1111)... 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Malek Organization: Embedded Edge, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.15-2.9.d ppc) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Lee, Yunseung" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: porting USB in Assabet(SA1110+SA1111)... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Yes, someone working for me is is currently doing this....... -- Dan From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jun 21 07:49:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id HAA00374; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 07:49:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02838 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 07:49:31 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id WAA25572; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07390; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:47:44 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA16430; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA09672; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02437; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:45:58 -0700 Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (ns0.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id WAA04125 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apache.utdallas.edu (apache.utdallas.edu [129.110.16.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DC61A019F; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:40:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (vasantr@localhost) by apache.utdallas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA03536; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:41:31 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: apache.utdallas.edu: vasantr owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:41:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Vasant Ramasubramanian To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: SDRAM Testing code for 1110 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Does anyone out there have code to bring SDRAMs out of hardware reset / code to test DRAMs/SDRAMs? I'm working with an SA-1110 that has basically one bank of SDRAM and I need to test it/board as this is new hardware. Thanks and sorry for the cross-post. Vasant. From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Jun 25 01:37:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id BAA21631; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:37:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12318 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:37:56 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id QAA11213; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06935; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:30:50 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA06197; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA07998; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09272; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:24:19 -0700 Received: from crlwebmail.crl.dec.com (crlwebmail.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.2]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id TAA28322; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 19:24:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crlwebmail.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 19:28:57 -0400 Message-Id: From: George France To: "'Vasant Ramasubramanian'" , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: RE: SDRAM Testing code for 1110 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 19:24:14 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hello Vasant; If you go to http://handhelds.org, then you will find instructions for anonymous cvs access. Checkout the 'bootldr' program from the cvs repository. In the 'boot.s' file searh for the label 'memTest:' you will find what you are looking for. I hope this helps. --George George France, france@crl.dec.com Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation One Cambridgecenter MS: CRL Cambridge, MA 02142 USA -----Original Message----- From: Vasant Ramasubramanian [mailto:vasantr@utdallas.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 1:42 AM To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: SDRAM Testing code for 1110 Does anyone out there have code to bring SDRAMs out of hardware reset / code to test DRAMs/SDRAMs? I'm working with an SA-1110 that has basically one bank of SDRAM and I need to test it/board as this is new hardware. Thanks and sorry for the cross-post. Vasant. From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jun 26 00:09:06 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA25312; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:09:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02876 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:09:03 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA30740; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25748; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:00:45 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA03348; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA02389; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17036; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:55:19 -0700 Received: from adsl-63-193-117-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-63-193-117-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.117.152]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA27313 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iridescent.org by adsl-63-193-117-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 6135u via TCP with SMTP; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:55:23 -0700 Received: from [192.168.0.2] by iridescent.org (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 6135 via TCP with SMTP; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:53:18 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leb@mail.iridescent.org Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:53:04 -0700 To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com From: "Lawrence E. Bakst" Subject: Time frame for saving WinCE flash images Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Could someone (George France ) comment on the time frame for the release of the bootldr feature that will allowing saving of the WinCE OS image? Best, leb -- Lawrence E. Bakst leb@iridescent.org From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jun 26 00:33:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA25378; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:33:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03373 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:33:31 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA02935; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19453; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:24:52 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA00483; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA03202; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22251; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:21:48 -0700 Received: from crl.dec.com (crl.dec.com [192.58.206.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA04207 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ims.crl.dec.com (ims.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.11]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id SAA12697; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ims.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:20:54 -0400 Message-Id: From: George France To: "'Lawrence E. Bakst'" , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Cc: "'handhelds@handhelds.org'" Subject: RE: Time frame for saving WinCE flash images Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:15:56 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hello; I am in Lab, working on it right now. The program should be ready for testing by Tuesday morning. I will have to find someone with the WinCE OS still on their unit. It seems that all the units in the Lab have been converted to Linux. :-) Best Regards, --George George France, france@crl.dec.com Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation One Cambridgecenter MS: CRL Cambridge, MA 02142 USA -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence E. Bakst [mailto:leb@iridescent.org] Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 5:53 PM To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Time frame for saving WinCE flash images Could someone (George France ) comment on the time frame for the release of the bootldr feature that will allowing saving of the WinCE OS image? Best, leb -- Lawrence E. Bakst leb@iridescent.org From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jun 27 05:28:18 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id FAA02755; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 05:28:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27953 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 05:28:16 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id UAA12203; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08785; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:21:13 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA21516; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id UAA23342; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05158; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:16:32 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id UAA29690 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03835 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:15:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:15:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Subject: diff-2.4.0-test2-ac1-rmk2-np1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk ... is now available from many places: ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/ ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/people/nico/ ftp.handhelds.org/pub/linux/arm/sa-1100-patches/ This contains: - updated to the latest kernel - partial merge of the Compaq iPaq support - DMA fix for the UDA1341 audio driver - SA1100 framebuffer small fixes - probably other forgotten things NOTE: this patch is somewhat broken due to all pieces that changed since the last one. It is known to compile for Assabet but I guess it might not compile for other SA1100 targets. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jun 28 23:45:35 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA04200; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:45:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA26357 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:45:32 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA01557; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01660; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:43:49 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA13664; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA14809; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19734; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:40:13 -0700 Received: from ns.centurysoftware.com (ns.censoft.com [208.219.23.2]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA27324 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from censoft.com (IDENT:markl@penguin.CenSoft.COM [208.219.23.17]) by ns.centurysoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23436 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:07:28 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <395A708E.4E770F1F@censoft.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:39:26 -0600 From: Mark Lehrer Reply-To: markl@censoft.com Organization: Century Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: arm, ucb1200, mpg123 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hello. I'm doing some fun work with an ADS Graphics Client (SA-1110, UCB1200 sound). I understand that there is a pre-compiled version of arm mpg123 available; could someone please point me to a URL? I checked the Carleton site but it doesn't appear to be there. I tried compiling my own but it isn't quite acting right. I suspect the kernel or driver and a known-good version of mpg123 would help me to prove it. Thanks! Mark Lehrer From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jun 29 00:03:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id AAA04259; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:03:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA27044 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:03:10 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA04042; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17025; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:01:51 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA13364; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA15843; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03989; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:01:35 -0700 Received: from crlwebmail.crl.dec.com (crlwebmail.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.2]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id SAA20871; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crlwebmail.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:06:18 -0400 Message-Id: From: George France To: "'markl@censoft.com'" , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: RE: arm, ucb1200, mpg123 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:01:35 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hello Mark; At ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/apps/sound is have placed an integerized ARM mpg123 player. In the next few days it the file will be moved to the ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/apps/arm directory. Enjoy, --George George France, france@crl.dec.com Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation One Cambridgecenter MS: CRL Cambridge, MA 02142 USA -----Original Message----- From: Mark Lehrer [mailto:markl@censoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 5:39 PM To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: arm, ucb1200, mpg123 Hello. I'm doing some fun work with an ADS Graphics Client (SA-1110, UCB1200 sound). I understand that there is a pre-compiled version of arm mpg123 available; could someone please point me to a URL? I checked the Carleton site but it doesn't appear to be there. I tried compiling my own but it isn't quite acting right. I suspect the kernel or driver and a known-good version of mpg123 would help me to prove it. Thanks! Mark Lehrer From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jun 29 01:20:09 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id BAA04453; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:20:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29182 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:20:07 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id QAA01088; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15075; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:17:55 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA15777; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA17421; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19510; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:16:31 -0700 Received: from ns.centurysoftware.com (ns.censoft.com [208.219.23.2]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id QAA12044 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from censoft.com (IDENT:markl@penguin.CenSoft.COM [208.219.23.17]) by ns.centurysoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24541; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:43:30 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <395A8711.CA6A2ADD@censoft.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:15:29 -0600 From: Mark Lehrer Reply-To: markl@censoft.com Organization: Century Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: George France Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: arm, ucb1200, mpg123 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk George France wrote: > At ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/apps/sound is have placed an integerized ARM > mpg123 player. In the next few days it the file will be moved to the > ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/apps/arm directory. A-ha. This makes sense; the software floating point is what made my version unusable. Thanks! Now, the next question is, of course, how well it works. I have no trouble with 32bps mp3's, but 64bps is a bit choppy. Is this typical, or particular to my system? It only has about 10 megabytes left to the kernel, bash, etc, so it certainly can't buffer up a lot of sound data; perhaps that is the real problem. Thanks, Mark From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jun 29 10:17:46 2000 Return-Path: Received: from tudedr.et.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA00515; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:17:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns2.tudelft.nl by ITS.TUDelft.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #21918) with ESMTP id <01JR66WXXX088WWCH0@ITS.TUDelft.NL> for erik@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:17:40 +0200 Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhost1.tudelft.nl (PMDF V5.2-33 #42432) with ESMTP id <0FWW00AM9PJ2UV@mailhost1.tudelft.nl> for J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:13:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA11175; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29303; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:08:11 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA03371; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA04474; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21793; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:06:45 -0700 Received: from salisbury.labs.futuretv.com (salisbury.futuretv.com [194.216.164.17]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id BAA27421 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zebra.labs.futuretv.com ([192.168.32.2] ident=mail) by salisbury.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 137arS-0004CS-00 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:43:54 +0000 Received: from [192.168.33.3] (helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=mail) by zebra.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 137ZLC-0000JU-00; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:06:30 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fountain.labs.futuretv.com ident=pb) by fountain.labs.futuretv.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 137ZLB-0001bx-00; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:06:29 +0100 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:06:29 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Subject: Re: arm, ucb1200, mpg123 In-reply-to: Message from Rob Leslie "of Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:18:24 EDT." <200006290018.UAA18551@deimos.mars.org> Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com To: Rob Leslie Cc: George France , "'markl@censoft.com'" , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, "'linux@handhelds.org'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-2021294200P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk References: <200006290018.UAA18551@deimos.mars.org> --==_Exmh_-2021294200P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message <200006290018.UAA18551@deimos.mars.org>, Rob Leslie writes: >I was going to mention some other fixed-point alternatives, but Nicolas beat >me to splay. :-) The only other decoder I'm well aware of is Xaudio. Of course there's the ARM decoder. p. --==_Exmh_-2021294200P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) owE1kL9LQlEUx1NpefUIydY4i0igz6dglpUl0iD0A8QiaLq+d3zeeO9eefea2tLS IEQSbUUQtbQ2BW0tTdUfELQ0trXV0NBV8gznLN/vh/P9nuqhQDDcfX87Lu7FTwLP j2dywjQ84Riz2XTawLZXn98NHRU5k8hkotJpYA4ktmWy4RLKFsCqE1+gXGqKBBEW pbqmayUGHgpBHITFtKlmNj1vmqk5Y6tQSM1lMqkVG6nHheEpr8F9Jx+HMq/CGgqX IrR8KlHkdC1fghYR4HDKHJBcQZmknIHgHgKXdfShRttoJxpKIYG4En1GJN1HEYdq U8IGtbirCFUkUuGUS1GE+rxjQC4xA1CpKxBzO/80Gy1uq1uKedBC1wXSIr5S1IAK 2CFNm3KjH3CzBhZvqtzQt2FM9C8UyutDwkDVGGxd6y6HRgP9Foc1h4NP9yOX41/X v6+l1c9p7fsn8nB+0+uNTY1cHSanMrXoS2r7Nhi9OIhU7j6yk38= =tFUp -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --==_Exmh_-2021294200P-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jun 29 15:42:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA02257; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:42:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24024 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:42:01 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA07158; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA23029; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:39:48 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA11519; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA10855; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06803; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:38:27 -0700 Received: from ns.centurysoftware.com (ns.censoft.com [208.219.23.2]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA07491 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from censoft.com (IDENT:markl@penguin.CenSoft.COM [208.219.23.17]) by ns.centurysoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29258; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:05:41 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <395B5122.1AE33968@censoft.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:37:38 -0600 From: Mark Lehrer Reply-To: markl@censoft.com Organization: Century Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: George France , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: arm, ucb1200, mpg123 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Mark Lehrer wrote: > > > Now, the next question is, of course, how well it works. I have no trouble > > with 32bps mp3's, but 64bps is a bit choppy. Is this typical, or particular > > to my system? It only has about 10 megabytes left to the kernel, bash, etc, > > so it certainly can't buffer up a lot of sound data; perhaps that is the real > > problem. > > Absolutely not. 10MB is quite enough. Audio buffering is usually less > than 1MB of memory. > > Typically, I can play 128kbps MPEG Layer-3 files using splay in real-time. > CPU usage is about 17% on my Assabet and memory usage is also quite low. OK, that is good to know... I'll look into the alternative mp3 players. Mark From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jun 30 20:36:48 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA09331; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:36:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22054 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:36:46 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA25571; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16580; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:34:31 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA07103; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA06325; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20682; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:29:56 -0700 Received: from eising.k-net.dk (eising.k-net.dtu.dk [130.225.71.227]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA02642 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obelix.vkr.k-net.dk (obelix.vkr.k-net.dk [192.38.209.3]) by eising.k-net.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D87C54D for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:29:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: by OBELIX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:29:49 +0200 Message-Id: From: Anders Frederiksen To: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Subject: Brutus / kernel versions Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:29:46 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk What kernel/patch versions will you recommend for the Brutus platform? Stability preffered over features ;-) Regards, Anders Frederiksen From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Jul 1 01:00:38 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id BAA10049; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 01:00:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29458 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 01:00:36 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id PAA01292; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26825; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:59:00 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA16743; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id PAA16626; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32282; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:57:40 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id PAA20413 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15684 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:56:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:56:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Subject: diff-2.4.0-test2-ac1-rmk2-np2.gz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk ... is available from ftp.netwinder.org and all mirrors. This contains: - cleaned up compressed/head-sa1100 code - fixed SA1100 serial console support (I finally came to it... one year later. Now all boot messages are correctly displayed without garbage. Also the kernel commandline parameter for the serial console settings is supported) - moved Neponset probing code to a better logical location - sa1100 touchscreen driver fixes Tak-Shing Chan The iPaq specific initialization bits in the audio driver are still half merged. Enjoy! Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Jul 1 23:13:18 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA12760; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:13:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20483 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:13:16 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA30905; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26059; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:11:29 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA17723; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA17622; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02397; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:06:19 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA28155 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20286; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:05:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:05:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Anders Frederiksen Cc: "'sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com'" Subject: Re: Brutus / kernel versions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Anders Frederiksen wrote: > What kernel/patch versions will you recommend for the Brutus platform? > Stability preffered over features ;-) Maybe the last 2.2.x kernel version for which there is a patch on ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico. However you should know that 2.2.x kernels for SA1100 are no longer maintained and going for 2.4.x with the latest patch from the same site is probably a better idea too. The 2.2.x kernels might be stable i.e. the code won't change. However that doesn't mean it is better than the latest one. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Jul 2 06:31:17 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA13625; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 06:31:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26026 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 06:31:14 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id VAA05980; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07969; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:29:17 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA30808; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA28782; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18107; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:28:07 -0700 Received: from ricl.konkuk.ac.kr ([203.252.137.80]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id VAA30469 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newage (s210-181-100-80.thrunet.ne.kr [210.181.100.80]) by ricl.konkuk.ac.kr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01106 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:55:55 +0900 Message-Id: <000501bfe3d5$6f682a60$5064b5d2@wseoul.thrunet.com> Reply-To: "=?ks_c_5601-1987?B?seizsrHUXChyaWNsXCk=?=" From: "=?ks_c_5601-1987?B?seizsrHUXChyaWNsXCk=?=" To: Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 13:27:20 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk c3Vic2NyaWJlIG5ra2ltQHJpY2wua29ua3VrLmFjLmtyDQo= From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jul 3 01:12:00 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id BAA15731; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 01:11:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12906 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 01:11:57 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id QAA28689; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25389; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:10:09 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA20605; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA20426; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA31819; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:05:31 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id QAA11766 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24965 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 19:04:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 19:04:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: SA-1100/Linux Subject: diff-2.4.0-test2-ac1-rmk2-np3.gz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk ... is available from the usual sites This doesn't contain much than np2 except for some bits that were missing into the UDA1341 driver for Bitsy. I also realized that I broke the serial driver somehow from np1 to np2 when I fixed the console support and cleaned it up. Apparently it can't receive more than 2 character in a row, which doesn't happen when you type normal characters. Escape sequences, like arrow keys, or uploads doesn't get through ATM. If you require it, stick with np1 for now. I'll be out of town for few days, so if anybody feel like fixing it, please do it and post any patch to the list. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jul 5 11:54:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id LAA29842; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:54:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18406 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:54:55 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id CAA17395; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 02:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15040; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 02:53:04 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA01091; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 02:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id CAA18219; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 02:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26871; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 02:47:32 -0700 Received: from hw.ia.ac.cn ([159.226.21.134]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id CAA25252 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 02:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hw.ia.ac.cn ([159.226.21.171]) by hw.ia.ac.cn (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA15887; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:33:57 -0800 Message-Id: <396303C3.B97F77C4@hw.ia.ac.cn> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:45:39 +0800 From: dai X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [zh_CN] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: zh-CN, en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: nico@CAM.ORG, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: power management for Assabet? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk nico, we seems to have fix UDA1341 driver.now itcan play 44.1k to 8k sound without noise,if you didnt fix it yet,i will mail it to you. is there anybody working on power management for Assabet?if not, could you give me some advice how to implement one? regards /dai From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jul 5 15:17:15 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA01409; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:17:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26925 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:17:11 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA19093; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA04035; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:15:29 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA23968; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA21290; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA13992; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:14:40 -0700 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (p16-robin-gui.tch.enablis.net [194.168.180.76]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA18996 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flint.arm.linux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03145; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:51:56 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02524; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:49:08 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Message-Id: <200007051149.MAA02524@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Subject: Re: power management for Assabet? To: dai@hw.ia.ac.cn (dai) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:49:08 +0100 (BST) Cc: nico@CAM.ORG, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <396303C3.B97F77C4@hw.ia.ac.cn> from "dai" at Jul 05, 2000 05:45:39 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk dai writes: > is there anybody working on power management for Assabet? if not, > could you give me some advice how to implement one? Don't know if we've got proper power management yet, but I've added the "bare essentials" to the latest 2.4.0 ARM kernel. I have noticed that there may be a power management scheme in existance (to do with the mcp stuff?) already which does not use the 2.4.0 power management stuff. This appears to be incomplete in Nicos kernel. I'd like to persuade people to use the existing powermanagement APIs in the kernel, rather than re-inventing the square wheel. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jul 5 15:43:39 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA01581; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:43:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27930 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:43:36 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA20207; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29735; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:42:16 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA22013; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA23731; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25120; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:41:57 -0700 Received: from compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (h0000c06cf87e.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.212.45]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id GAA07910 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p2.parker.boston.ma.us (p2 [192.245.5.16]) by compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26235; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:27:00 -0400 Received: from p2.parker.boston.ma.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p2.parker.boston.ma.us (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA36192; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:39:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brad@p2.parker.boston.ma.us) Message-Id: <200007051339.JAA36192@p2.parker.boston.ma.us> To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Assabet dma & SA-1111.h GPIO defs Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 09:39:27 -0400 From: Brad Parker Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hi, I've added basic dma support for the SA-1100, mostly to support the internal USB function controller. Does anyone want this? Is there a BK tree somewhere to add things to? Also, are the GPIO defines in arch-sa1000/SA-1111.h correct? They look wrong to me. Specifically, shouldn't #define _PA_DDR _SA1111( 0x1000 ) ... be #define _PA_DDR _SA1111( 0x0e00 ) ... ? All the other defines match up with my docs correct, but the GPIO one maps to A12:9=8 and my docs say it should A12:9=7 (or 0x0e00). -brad From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jul 5 16:07:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA01721; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:07:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29017 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:07:01 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA10672; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14473; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:05:35 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA09030; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA24724; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA09377; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:05:15 -0700 Received: from smtp1.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP1.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.81]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA10385 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix10.andrew.cmu.edu (UNIX10.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.15.14]) by smtp1.andrew.cmu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA09213; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:01:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:01:46 -0400 (EDT) From: John G Dorsey To: Brad Parker Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Assabet dma & SA-1111.h GPIO defs In-Reply-To: <200007051339.JAA36192@p2.parker.boston.ma.us> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Brad Parker wrote: > #define _PA_DDR _SA1111( 0x1000 ) ... > > ? All the other defines match up with my docs correct, but the GPIO > one maps to A12:9=8 and my docs say it should A12:9=7 (or 0x0e00). These came from section 10.3.6 ("Memory Map") of the SA-1111 developer's manual; this section doesn't seem to have been modified in the manual update. Since the block A GPIO drives the MAX1600 on Neponset, and that actually appears to work with the current definitions, I've felt comfortable believing that these macros were correct (at least in the patch I submitted to Nicolas; I haven't looked at the last few -np releases). Which part of the documentation seems in conflict? -jd From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jul 5 19:48:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id TAA03137; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:48:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07097 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:48:25 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id KAA00426; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32754; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:46:37 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA32013; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id KAA00093; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00165; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:45:51 -0700 Received: from compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (h0000c06cf87e.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.212.45]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id KAA30229 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p2.parker.boston.ma.us (p2 [192.245.5.16]) by compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26662; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:30:54 -0400 Received: from p2.parker.boston.ma.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p2.parker.boston.ma.us (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA36934; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:46:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brad@p2.parker.boston.ma.us) Message-Id: <200007051746.NAA36934@p2.parker.boston.ma.us> To: John G Dorsey Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Assabet dma & SA-1111.h GPIO defs In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:01:46 EDT." Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 13:46:21 -0400 From: Brad Parker Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk John G Dorsey wrote: >On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Brad Parker wrote: >> #define _PA_DDR _SA1111( 0x1000 ) >... >> >> ? All the other defines match up with my docs correct, but the GPIO >> one maps to A12:9=8 and my docs say it should A12:9=7 (or 0x0e00). > >These came from section 10.3.6 ("Memory Map") of the SA-1111 developer's >manual; this section doesn't seem to have been modified in the manual >update. Since the block A GPIO drives the MAX1600 on Neponset, and that >actually appears to work with the current definitions, I've felt >comfortable believing that these macros were correct (at least in the >patch I submitted to Nicolas; I haven't looked at the last few -np >releases). > >Which part of the documentation seems in conflict? Well, looking back at the docs now I'm totally confused. Yes, you are correct, 10.3.6 does say it should be at 0x1000. However, The SA-1111 developer's manual, pg 3-4 shows the GPIO at 0x1000-0x11ff (it also shows the OHCI controller at 0x400, which is what I really wanted) Page 4-2, however ("RAB Target Blocks/Address Assignment") shows a table where "Address A<12:9>" is 2 for the USB (this makes 0x400, which seems right) and 7 for the GPIO (which makes 0x0e00, *not* 0x1000). Further, it shows 8 (which makes 0x1000) as "reserved". In the "Specification Update October 1999", page 21, Figure 4-1 is updated and matches the "RAB Target Blocks/Address Assignment" table... I'll go with 10.3.6 :-) -brad From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 6 17:52:24 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA09718; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:52:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19419 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:52:20 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA27025; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15923; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:50:37 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA18923; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA19463; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00684; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:44:33 -0700 Received: from ice.ar51.net (ice.fiftyone.com [208.225.80.11]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id IAA30838 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server01.asi (akron-80-181.ar51.net [208.225.80.181]) by ice.ar51.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA19673; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:44:13 -0400 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3GR16V2L>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:45:57 -0400 Message-Id: From: Jeff Sutherland To: "Linux ARM kernel mailing list (E-mail)" , "SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)" Subject: NFS root mounting of Assabet's filesystem Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:45:51 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk After a long struggle I'm happy to report that Nicolas Pitre's latest patch has fixed the problem with serial_sa1100.c that was preventing me from NFS mounting my Assabet's root filesystem. (This is in 2.4.0-test2-ac1-rmk2-np3). I have a slightly off-topic configuration question however: When the NFS root filesystem is first mounted (at the end of do_basic_setup() in init/main.c) it is mounted as read only. Where in the subsequent init process is it supposed to get remounted in read/write mode? I'm getting a lot of complaints from programs launched by the rc3.d startup scripts about not being able to write to /var/log/..., /tmp, and so forth, as you can imagine. All the other issues I'm currently facing are just the usual configuration problems, the kernel and the pcmcia networking appear to be working quite well at this point. Regards, //Jeff From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 6 18:41:18 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA09919; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:41:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21183 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:41:15 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA27454; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25051; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:39:20 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA15222; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA14723; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA16717; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:38:35 -0700 Received: from mail.netx4.com (216-064-003-018.inaddr.vitts.com [216.64.3.18]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id JAA08508 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from embeddededge.com (purp.netx4.com [192.168.253.32]) by mail.netx4.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15149; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:12:41 -0400 Message-Id: <3964B5D1.BB3A01A9@embeddededge.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 12:37:37 -0400 From: Dan Malek Organization: Embedded Edge, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.15-2.9.d ppc) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Sutherland Cc: "Linux ARM kernel mailing list (E-mail)" , "SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)" Subject: Re: NFS root mounting of Assabet's filesystem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Jeff Sutherland wrote: > .... I have a slightly off-topic configuration > question however: When the NFS root filesystem is first mounted (at the end > of do_basic_setup() in init/main.c) it is mounted as read only. Use the command line "root=/dev/nfs rw" to the kernel. -- Dan From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 6 20:06:29 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA10255; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:06:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23881 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:06:24 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA00352; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29664; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:04:55 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA16852; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA12433; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20195; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:04:45 -0700 Received: from ADSServer.flatpanels.com (flatpanels.com [207.196.69.66] (may be forged)) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA10031 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by flatpanels.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <3MSHLR9A>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:56:11 -0400 Message-Id: <91B07CA588CED3118CFE00105AC97594026F94@flatpanels.com> From: "Huh, Woojung" To: "Sa1100-Linux (E-mail)" Cc: "Nicolas Pitre (E-mail)" Subject: FW: Question about 2.4.0-test2-ac1-rmk2-np3 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:56:10 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk All; I upgraded to 2.4.0-test2-ac1-rmk2-np3 from 2.3.35. I had some problems. Some are fixed but some are not. I use ADS graphics client. 1. after booting, I execute "df" command. It displays Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on none 5947 4886 754 87% / pipe:: No such file or directory none 5947 4886 754 87% / none 5947 4886 754 87% / /dev/root 5947 4886 754 87% / 2. I can not use flash file system. Errors are follows EXT2-fs error (device flash(60,2)): ext2_new_block: Allocating block in system zone - block = 8384 Flash driver: programming voltage error! end_request: I/O error, dev 3c:02 (flash), sector 2 3. Ethernet seems not to work. It displays wrong MAC address. Thanks in advance. Woojung Huh From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 6 20:06:29 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA10254; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:06:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23883 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:06:24 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA08535; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00369; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:04:47 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA18290; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA17776; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11809; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:03:42 -0700 Received: from ice.ar51.net (ice.fiftyone.com [208.225.80.11]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA12757 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server01.asi (akron-80-181.ar51.net [208.225.80.181]) by ice.ar51.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA29439; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:03:36 -0400 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3GR16V2N>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:05:21 -0400 Message-Id: From: Jeff Sutherland To: "'SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)'" , "'Linux ARM kernel mailing list (E-mail)'" Subject: RE: NFS root mounting of Assabet's filesystem Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:05:17 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > .... I have a slightly off-topic configuration > question however: When the NFS root filesystem is first mounted (at the end > of do_basic_setup() in init/main.c) it is mounted as read only. Use the command line "root=/dev/nfs rw" to the kernel. -- Dan Thanks, Dan, that did it! Mark suggested: mount -o remount,rw which 'appeared' to work (telinit 1 first, note), yet had no effect. Unmounting, then re-mounting also did not fix it. I am working on a HOWTO for NFS root mounting SA1100-based devices. For draft copies, comments, flames, etc., please email me privately off-list. Thanks! //Jeff mailto:jSutherland@accelent.com From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 6 20:30:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA10372; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:30:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24725 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:30:10 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA15563; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29404; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:51 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA09452; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA19308; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25893; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:44 -0700 Received: from mail.netx4.com (216-064-003-018.inaddr.vitts.com [216.64.3.18]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA04812 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from embeddededge.com (purp.netx4.com [192.168.253.32]) by mail.netx4.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15345; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:03:01 -0400 Message-Id: <3964CFAA.6ADA3289@embeddededge.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:27:54 -0400 From: Dan Malek Organization: Embedded Edge, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.15-2.9.d ppc) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Sutherland Cc: "'SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)'" , "'Linux ARM kernel mailing list (E-mail)'" Subject: Re: NFS root mounting of Assabet's filesystem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Jeff Sutherland wrote: > Mark suggested: > > mount -o remount,rw Hmmm....If is '/', that should have worked as well. > I am working on a HOWTO for NFS root mounting SA1100-based devices. A little off topic, but I needed to say this anyway. I have been requested to create a bootable image for SA like I did for the embedded PowerPC port. This is a compressed image that has the initrd attached, and can be flashed into rom. You just jump to the first instruction of the image, it relocates, uncompresses, starts the kernel and mounts the ram disk. If there are some comments about this, please let me know. -- Dan From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 6 20:29:43 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA10364; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:29:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24696 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:29:38 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA15494; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29591; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:19 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA11600; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA19776; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29964; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:02 -0700 Received: from duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (duteinh.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.42.1]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA03483 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lumiere by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA10348; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:26:27 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200007061826.UAA10348@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl> From: Erik Mouw To: linux@arm.linux.org.uk Cc: dai@hw.ia.ac.cn, nico@CAM.ORG, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: power management for Assabet? In-Reply-To: <200007051149.MAA02524@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Organization: Eric conspiracy secret labs Date: Thu 06 Jul 2000 20:26:26 +0100 (MDT) X-Face: "!Z|1XjFg!3Iw)BwM^M\k)J5KHiPddz}#/Zw%?$&Q!xqob"OA|})3_@&BTTiQERo?/^g[Z<9P4R8:5C:aqq.cw!hotLc=+u-"+1rq@9$V^8PbOUlodyi_sejt+D`iqkLpx$>.aXl%vnfPIt"LK|/%>94_Zrm8jy?`_[RKt'TuoxUxfk(gMhY(n|DBBl~c$dhO>G%6}R4+DGX3|idBm4oU&UM/XUP4I9aoN{]`ax%B?rgD(I3OJ<62Y6L X-Mailer: XCmail 1.2devel - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (IRIX64) X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy! X-Loop: erik@it.et.tudelft.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:49:08 +0100 (BST), Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > dai writes: >> is there anybody working on power management for Assabet? if not, >> could you give me some advice how to implement one? > > Don't know if we've got proper power management yet, but I've added the > "bare essentials" to the latest 2.4.0 ARM kernel. Yup, I noticed, thanks. > I have noticed that there may be a power management scheme in existance > (to do with the mcp stuff?) already which does not use the 2.4.0 power > management stuff. This appears to be incomplete in Nicos kernel. The power management in the MCP audio is still from the old Itsy driver. I just ported the driver to linux-2.3.xx but didn't remove the cruft. > I'd like to persuade people to use the existing powermanagement APIs in > the kernel, rather than re-inventing the square wheel. That's actually my plan, too. Being compatible with the standard tools is a nice thing. Erik -- J.A.K. (Erik) Mouw, Information and Communication Theory Group, Department of Electrical Engineering, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems, Delft University of Technology, PO BOX 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands Phone: +31-15-2783635 Fax: +31-15-2781843 Email: J.A.K.Mouw@its.tudelft.nl WWW: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 6 21:59:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA10647; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:59:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA27898 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:59:52 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA09355; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22824; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:58:19 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA22313; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA20440; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06091; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:57:09 -0700 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (p16-robin-gui.tch.enablis.net [194.168.180.76]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA17813 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flint.arm.linux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10133; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:56:29 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA12525; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:53:38 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Message-Id: <200007061953.UAA12525@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Subject: Re: NFS root mounting of Assabet's filesystem To: dan@netx4.com (Dan Malek) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:53:38 +0100 (BST) Cc: jsutherland@accelent.com (Jeff Sutherland), SA1100-linux@pa.dec.com ("'SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)'"), linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk ("'Linux ARM kernel mailing list (E-mail)'") In-Reply-To: <3964CFAA.6ADA3289@embeddededge.com> from "Dan Malek" at Jul 06, 2000 02:27:54 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Dan Malek writes: > I have been requested to create a bootable image for SA like I did > for the embedded PowerPC port. This is a compressed image that has > the initrd attached, and can be flashed into rom. You just jump to > the first instruction of the image, it relocates, uncompresses, starts > the kernel and mounts the ram disk. If there are some comments about > this, please let me know. Hmm, its very very complicated, especially since there is no "standard" memory map that you can rely on. Really, you can not relocate the kernel from the point where the boot loader loaded it without running into many problems. Also, the size of the kernel + size of initrd is likely to overflow the amount of memory available in the first bank of RAM on banked RAM machines. About the only thing that can be considered is to relocate the initrd to some other address, and hope it exists... _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 6 22:33:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA10770; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:33:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29082 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:33:24 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA14993; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24998; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:31:56 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA26220; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA25601; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02287; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:31:29 -0700 Received: from ice.ar51.net (ice.fiftyone.com [208.225.80.11]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA11340 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server01.asi (akron-80-173.ar51.net [208.225.80.173]) by ice.ar51.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA07077; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:31:16 -0400 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3GR16V2Q>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:33:00 -0400 Message-Id: From: Jeff Sutherland To: "'Russell King - ARM Linux Admin'" , "'Dan Malek'" Cc: "'\"'SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)'\"'" , "'\"'Linux ARM kernel mailing list (E-mail)'\"'" Subject: RE: NFS root mounting of Assabet's filesystem Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:32:47 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Dan Malek writes: > I have been requested to create a bootable image for SA like I did > for the embedded PowerPC port. This is a compressed image that has > the initrd attached, and can be flashed into rom. You just jump to > the first instruction of the image, it relocates, uncompresses, starts > the kernel and mounts the ram disk. If there are some comments about > this, please let me know. Hmm, its very very complicated, especially since there is no "standard" memory map that you can rely on. Really, you can not relocate the kernel from the point where the boot loader loaded it without running into many problems. Also, the size of the kernel + size of initrd is likely to overflow the amount of memory available in the first bank of RAM on banked RAM machines. About the only thing that can be considered is to relocate the initrd to some other address, and hope it exists... _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | Well, yes it is complicated, and is much more of a bootloading issue than a kernel or initrd issue. Our bootloader is able to 'dissect' the image in ROM and place the various parts (however many there may be) into the appropriate places in memory (specified in the ROM image), then jump to a specified starting address (obtained from the ROM image, of course) at the conclusion of the bootloader's activities. The kernel image and initrd are "wrapped" by the download utility that creates the single binary image and flashes it into memory, either via a serial port, PCMCIA socket, and (just this week) by an Ethernet connection. //Jeff From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 6 22:50:48 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA10839; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:50:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29623 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:50:45 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA12969; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02827; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:49:25 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA26642; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA26374; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25931; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:49:12 -0700 Received: from mail.netx4.com (216-064-003-018.inaddr.vitts.com [216.64.3.18]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id NAA12040 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from embeddededge.com (purp.netx4.com [192.168.253.32]) by mail.netx4.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15449; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:23:11 -0400 Message-Id: <3964F081.F59A1435@embeddededge.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 16:48:01 -0400 From: Dan Malek Organization: Embedded Edge, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.15-2.9.d ppc) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: Dan Malek , Jeff Sutherland , "'SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)'" , "'Linux ARM kernel mailing list (E-mail)'" Subject: Re: NFS root mounting of Assabet's filesystem References: <200007061953.UAA12525@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Hmm, its very very complicated, But....does this sound useful, or am I missing some other obvious way to do this? Should I have paid attention to the BLOB postings :-)? > ..... especially since there is no "standard" > memory map that you can rely on. Really, you can not relocate the > kernel from the point where the boot loader loaded it without running > into many problems. I don't relocate anything. I'll explain. Hit the big delete if you aren't interested (no, not you Russell :-). First, I don't understand why sometimes you load the image at a low address, uncompress into a high address, then copy back to the low address. Other times you load the image into the high address and uncompress into the low address. I would always do the latter. The uncompress code can either be written to run at any address, or it can relocate itself to a specific memory address. This is what I would reloate if necessary. For example. If the "head.S" and "misc.c" functions are linked to 0xc0200000, and are actually stored in flash, I would have a couple of lines of code that discovers this condition and copies the code to 0xc0200000 and executes from there. Then just pass the pointers into decompress_kernel and everything should uncompress properly. You can attach the compressed initrd to the same zImage, and have misc.c determine the location and size of this. It can pass this into the kernel. You get one image that can be loaded using your favorite method, and when you are happy with it, the exact same set of bits can be flashed. The Linux kernel requires the compressed ram disk is in ram because it deallocates the pages when finished. If necessary (and I don't yet understand this), misc.c can copy the image from the flash to another bank of ram. I guess some (or all) StrongARM memory isn't necessary contiguous? Compressed ram disks aren't usually that big (1.5 to 2 Mbytes or so). If the first ram bank is at least 4 Mbytes, this should work fine. You just need to add a few smarts to functions in misc.c. I also like the ability to get an interactive command prompt here so you can modify kernel command line paramters at this point. OK. I am ready to learn. Teach me what I need to know to either make this work or forget about it. Thanks. -- Dan From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 6 23:21:40 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA10966; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:21:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA00792 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:21:38 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA21074; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07504; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:20:13 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA27013; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA26932; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26777; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:19:37 -0700 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (p16-robin-gui.tch.enablis.net [194.168.180.76]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA21986 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flint.arm.linux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA10485; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:19:29 +0100 Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.arm.linux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12849; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:16:38 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Message-Id: <200007062116.WAA12849@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Subject: Re: NFS root mounting of Assabet's filesystem To: dan@netx4.com (Dan Malek) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:16:38 +0100 (BST) Cc: jsutherland@accelent.com (Jeff Sutherland), SA1100-linux@pa.dec.com ("'SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)'"), linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk ("'Linux ARM kernel mailing list (E-mail)'") In-Reply-To: <3964F081.F59A1435@embeddededge.com> from "Dan Malek" at Jul 06, 2000 04:48:01 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Dan Malek writes: > Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > > Hmm, its very very complicated, > > But....does this sound useful, or am I missing some other obvious > way to do this? Should I have paid attention to the BLOB postings :-)? Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that its bad. I'm just mentioning that its a little more complicated. The reason I haven't done it yet is that there are more important things I have to do, and its going to take a lot of thinking to get the right method that works. > First, I don't understand why sometimes you load the image at a low > address, uncompress into a high address, then copy back to the low > address. Other times you load the image into the high address and > uncompress into the low address. I'm not exactly sure what you mean here. There are many different ARM machines which have their RAM located at a variety of different places. For instance, RiscPCs have DRAM in the range 0x10000000 to 0x20000000, but in 4 banks, whereas EBSAs and other SA110-based machines have it located at 0x00000000 in a contiguous chunk. SA11x0-based machines can have the memory located around 0xc0000000 to 0xe0000000, or even in the SRAM space (sorry, don't have the physical addresses to hand). All this means that head.S ends up being compiled to run at many different places depending on the architecture. Oh, and the kernel is always decompressed to the RAM directly following the image, and then is copied back down to the "correct" RAM location for calling it. The reason we need this is where you have a 2MB bank 0 on a RiscPC or similar machine - there is not really enough memory to place the compressed kernel at the 1MB mark and hope that during decompression that it doesn't overwrite the code doing the decompression. (In fact, this probably means that in this situation, a combined initrd/kernel solution is not going to work. > I would always do the latter. The uncompress code can either be > written to run at any address, or it can relocate itself to a specific > memory address. Note that the head.S code is already written to be mostly relocatable. (it requires a little more work around the ldmia instruction to fix this). The misc.c code is a little more of a headache though - if you compile it up -fPIC, then you need to fix up the relocations at run time. This is not impossible, but the kernel has already been modified such that it doesn't write into any part of the image during decompression. This is required for the situation where the decompressor is run from flash directly - flash devices don't generally like having random writes directed at them. > I guess some (or all) StrongARM memory isn't necessary contiguous? Correct. It depends on the machine you're talking about. > You just need to add a few smarts to functions in misc.c. I also > like the ability to get an interactive command prompt here so you can > modify kernel command line paramters at this point. Really, the way this is done on other architectures (and I'm talking generally) is that the loader provides this functionality. On ARM, we do have a generic parameter block where things like parameter lines can be passed. Unfortunately, not all ARM architectures use this. ;( _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 6 23:37:13 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA11009; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:37:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01236 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:37:11 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA13844; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA24038; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:35:51 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA29047; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA29074; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AB15889; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:35:36 -0700 Received: from mail.netx4.com (216-064-003-018.inaddr.vitts.com [216.64.3.18]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA14010 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from embeddededge.com (purp.netx4.com [192.168.253.32]) by mail.netx4.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15525; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:09:54 -0400 Message-Id: <3964FB74.275161BE@embeddededge.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 17:34:44 -0400 From: Dan Malek Organization: Embedded Edge, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.15-2.9.d ppc) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: Dan Malek , Jeff Sutherland , "'SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)'" , "'Linux ARM kernel mailing list (E-mail)'" Subject: Re: NFS root mounting of Assabet's filesystem References: <200007062116.WAA12849@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that its bad. I know. I understand. You gave me lots to think about. > .... The reason I haven't done it yet > is that there are more important things I have to do, OK. I'll read the to-do list :-). I will experiment with the couple of boards I have (Assabet and BrightStar Engineering) and at least try to provide something on those systems (since they asked for this). I'll park it on a server someplace and you canpick and choose from it when you wish. Thanks for the help and information. -- Dan From kramer@pa.dec.com Fri Jul 7 21:27:34 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id VAA17539; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:27:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08246 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:27:32 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id MAA16359; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA15035; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:25:49 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA04045; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id MAA18096; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA17761; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:16:28 -0700 Received: from compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (h0000c06cf87e.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.212.45]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA19384 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p2.parker.boston.ma.us (p2 [192.245.5.16]) by compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03102; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:16:22 -0400 Received: from p2.parker.boston.ma.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p2.parker.boston.ma.us (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04679; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:16:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brad@p2.parker.boston.ma.us) Message-Id: <200007071916.PAA04679@p2.parker.boston.ma.us> To: "'SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)'" , "'Linux ARM kernel mailing list (E-mail)'" Subject: interrupts from sa-1111 dev module? Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 15:16:22 -0400 From: Brad Parker Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to get the ohci usb controller on the intel sa-1111 development module to work. I can talk to the controller but I can't get interrupts to work. I've verified that the SA-1111's interupt enable bits are being set correctly by the inline routines in asm/arch-sa1100/irq.h.. I tried hitting the SA-1111's interrupt test registers with no luck. I'm running kernel "int2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np5" any ideas? I can't find any other kernel code which uses the sa-1111 dev modules interrupts. -brad From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Jul 8 04:12:29 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA18464; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 04:12:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA17457 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 04:12:27 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA16888; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29664; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:10:27 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA22106; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA02110; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18604; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:06:56 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id TAA00687 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28016; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:06:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:06:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Brad Parker Cc: "'SA1100 Linux mailing list (E-mail)'" , "'Linux ARM kernel mailing list (E-mail)'" Subject: Re: interrupts from sa-1111 dev module? In-Reply-To: <200007071916.PAA04679@p2.parker.boston.ma.us> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Brad Parker wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to get the ohci usb controller on the intel sa-1111 development > module to work. I can talk to the controller but I can't get interrupts > to work. > > I've verified that the SA-1111's interupt enable bits are being set > correctly by the inline routines in asm/arch-sa1100/irq.h.. > > I tried hitting the SA-1111's interrupt test registers with no luck. > > I'm running kernel "int2.4.0-test1-ac7-rmk1-np5" Please pick a later patch. The SA1111 IRQ handling was broken until recently. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Jul 8 04:50:28 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA18520; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 04:50:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA17975 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 04:50:26 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA30768; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:49:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26868; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:49:05 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA22005; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA18699; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32331; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:46:12 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id TAA15415 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28044; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:44:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:44:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: "Huh, Woojung" Cc: "Sa1100-Linux (E-mail)" Subject: Re: FW: Question about 2.4.0-test2-ac1-rmk2-np3 In-Reply-To: <91B07CA588CED3118CFE00105AC97594026F94@flatpanels.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Huh, Woojung wrote: > All; > > I upgraded to 2.4.0-test2-ac1-rmk2-np3 from 2.3.35. > I had some problems. Some are fixed but some are not. > I use ADS graphics client. > > 1. after booting, I execute "df" command. It displays > Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > none 5947 4886 754 > 87% / > pipe:: No such file or directory > none 5947 4886 754 > 87% / > none 5947 4886 754 > 87% / > /dev/root 5947 4886 754 > 87% / Either your /etc/fstab is wrong, df is broken or /etc/mtab points/contains wrong data. If the same ramdisk worked well in the past, then it might be some kernel changes that broke df. > 2. I can not use flash file system. Errors are follows > EXT2-fs error (device flash(60,2)): ext2_new_block: > Allocating block in system zone - block = 8384 > Flash driver: programming voltage error! > end_request: I/O error, dev 3c:02 (flash), sector 2 Do you see "architecture: ADS GraphicsClient" in the kernel startup messages? If so, you might want to have a look at drivers/block/flash-mem.h to doublecheck that flash access for GraphicsClient is correctly defined. > 3. Ethernet seems not to work. It displays wrong MAC address. My board'S MAC address has not been configured, so I bolted a dummy MAC adress in the code... and forgot to remove it. It should work for you too anyway. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Jul 8 07:41:10 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id HAA18751; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:41:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20100 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:41:08 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id WAA19626; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00629; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:39:24 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA28395; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id WAA28063; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03974; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:36:06 -0700 Received: from mail2000.com.tw (mail2000.com.tw [139.175.250.58]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id WAA20887 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: By OpenMail Mailer;Sat, 08 Jul 2000 13:33:34 +0800 (CST) From: "Chien-Min Lee" Reply-To: cm_lee@mail2000.com.tw Subject: Re: NFS root mounting of Assabet's filesystem Message-Id: <963034414.36283.cm_lee@mail2000.com.tw> To: "jsutherland" Cc: "linux-arm-kernel" , "SA1100-linux" Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 13:33:34 +0800 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail1.digital.com id WAA20887 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hello: > After a long struggle I'm happy to report that Nicolas Pitre's latest p= atch > has fixed the problem with serial_sa1100.c that was preventing me from = NFS > mounting my Assabet's root filesystem. (This is in 2.4.0-test2-ac1-rmk= 2-np3). Would you please provide a how-to guide for making NFS root work throu= gh PCMCIA card service on Assabet?? If yes, it would be very great. Thanks kirk ----=3D=3D Mailed via Openfind =3D=3D----- http://mail2000.com.tw/ =B4=A3=A8=D1=A7K=B6O=AA=BA e-mail =ABH=BDc=AAA=B0= =C8 From kramer@pa.dec.com Sat Jul 8 17:45:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA19648; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:45:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28582 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:45:08 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA32369; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 08:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19001; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 08:43:14 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA05687; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 08:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id IAA07187; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 08:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11640; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 08:39:09 -0700 Received: from crlwebmail.crl.dec.com (crlwebmail.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.2]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id LAA24591; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 11:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crlwebmail.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 11:43:55 -0400 Message-Id: From: George France To: "'cm_lee@mail2000.com.tw'" Cc: linux-arm-kernel , SA1100-linux , jsutherland Subject: RE: NFS root mounting of Assabet's filesystem Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 11:39:01 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hello Kirk; This is an interesting problem. To get PCMCIA working you need the = files from the root file system. The simplest method, is to create a ramdisk = with all of the PCMCIA files that you need to activate your PCMCIA card, = then do the nfsroot mount. It is sort of the chicken or the egg problem. I have the same item on my todo list. It will just be a week or two = before I get to it. I hope this helps. --George George France, france@crl.dec.com Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation One Cambridgecenter MS: CRL Cambridge, MA 02142 USA -----Original Message----- From: Chien-Min Lee [mailto:cm_lee@mail2000.com.tw] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 1:34 AM To: jsutherland Cc: linux-arm-kernel; SA1100-linux Subject: Re: NFS root mounting of Assabet's filesystem Hello: > After a long struggle I'm happy to report that Nicolas Pitre's latest patch > has fixed the problem with serial_sa1100.c that was preventing me = from NFS > mounting my Assabet's root filesystem. (This is in 2.4.0-test2-ac1-rmk2-np3). Would you please provide a how-to guide for making NFS root work = through PCMCIA card service on Assabet?? If yes, it would be very great. Thanks kirk ----=3D=3D Mailed via Openfind =3D=3D----- http://mail2000.com.tw/ =B4=A3=A8=D1=A7K=B6O=AA=BA e-mail = =ABH=BDc=AAA=B0=C8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm-kernel' to majordomo@lists.arm.linux.org.uk From kramer@pa.dec.com Sun Jul 9 10:52:20 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id KAA21476; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:52:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13006 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:52:17 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id BAA21751; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 01:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01639; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 01:50:31 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA16496; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 01:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id BAA30296; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 01:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07121; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 01:44:20 -0700 Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (ns0.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.1]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id BAA06434 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 01:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apache.utdallas.edu (apache.utdallas.edu [129.110.16.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE09C1A0228; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 03:40:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (vasantr@localhost) by apache.utdallas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA00528; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 03:40:34 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: apache.utdallas.edu: vasantr owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 03:40:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Vasant Ramasubramanian To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Brutus/SA1100 Issues Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hello all; I am having difficulty getting my Brutus to work after it was sent in for repair and I'm not sure what the problem is yet... When I use Nico's brutustest kernel+ramdisk+angel on the debugging console I get some interesting startup messages. I get: ... Calibrating delay loop 194.15 BogoMIPS ... Starting kswapd 1.5 IRQ LOCK: IRQ 12 is locking the system, disabled Console: Switching to colour framebuffer device 40x30 and then it hangs. I notice that a few pixels on the Tux that appears on the LCD seem to be "blinking" after the hang. I poped open the CPU socket and apparently I have a "StrongARM SA-1100B" Anyone have any idea what speed grade this is? It wasn't listed in the SA1100 manual that I have. Any ideas? Thanks, Vasant. From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jul 10 04:19:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA23346; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 04:19:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA28927 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 04:19:06 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA13225; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 19:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29189; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 19:17:27 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA19531; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 19:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA21490; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 19:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27049; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 19:12:38 -0700 Received: from xanadu.gn.com (modemcable248.137-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.137.248]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id TAA31638 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 19:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by xanadu.gn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00421; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 22:11:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: xanadu.gn.com: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 22:11:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre X-Sender: nico@xanadu.gn.com To: Vasant Ramasubramanian Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Brutus/SA1100 Issues In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Vasant Ramasubramanian wrote: > Hello all; > > I am having difficulty getting my Brutus to work after it was sent in for > repair and I'm not sure what the problem is yet... > > When I use Nico's brutustest kernel+ramdisk+angel on the debugging console > I get some interesting startup messages. > > I get: > > ... > Calibrating delay loop 194.15 BogoMIPS > ... > Starting kswapd 1.5 > IRQ LOCK: IRQ 12 is locking the system, disabled > Console: Switching to colour framebuffer device 40x30 IRQ 12 is attached to the SA1100 integrated LCD controller. Either your CPU is damaged or something on the board is wrong. Try replacing your CPU on your Brutus board and ensure the socket is perfectly clean while you're at it. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jul 10 18:52:01 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id SAA27558; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:52:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24528 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:51:59 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id JAA01690; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA10453; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:50:16 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA29000; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id JAA13276; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zmamail02.nz-tay.cpqcorp.net by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21045; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:42:08 -0700 Received: by zmamail02.zma.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id DB44D8D3; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ADSServer.flatpanels.com (unknown [207.196.69.66]) by zmamail02.zma.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687C7A8E for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:42:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by flatpanels.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <3MSHLSVL>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:34:44 -0400 Message-Id: <91B07CA588CED3118CFE00105AC97594026FA1@flatpanels.com> From: "Huh, Woojung" To: "'Nicolas Pitre'" Cc: "Sa1100-Linux (E-mail)" Subject: RE: FW: Question about 2.4.0-test2-ac1-rmk2-np3 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:34:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Thanks, Nicolas. Number 2 (Flash problem) & 3 were solved. Flash problem was come from misconfiguration. And network is working fine. Woojung Huh -----Original Message----- From: Nicolas Pitre [SMTP:nico@CAM.ORG] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 10:44 PM To: Huh, Woojung Cc: Sa1100-Linux (E-mail) Subject: Re: FW: Question about 2.4.0-test2-ac1-rmk2-np3 On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Huh, Woojung wrote: > All; > > I upgraded to 2.4.0-test2-ac1-rmk2-np3 from 2.3.35. > I had some problems. Some are fixed but some are not. > I use ADS graphics client. > > 1. after booting, I execute "df" command. It displays > Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > none 5947 4886 754 > 87% / > pipe:: No such file or directory > none 5947 4886 754 > 87% / > none 5947 4886 754 > 87% / > /dev/root 5947 4886 754 > 87% / Either your /etc/fstab is wrong, df is broken or /etc/mtab points/contains wrong data. If the same ramdisk worked well in the past, then it might be some kernel changes that broke df. > 2. I can not use flash file system. Errors are follows > EXT2-fs error (device flash(60,2)): ext2_new_block: > Allocating block in system zone - block = 8384 > Flash driver: programming voltage error! > end_request: I/O error, dev 3c:02 (flash), sector 2 Do you see "architecture: ADS GraphicsClient" in the kernel startup messages? If so, you might want to have a look at drivers/block/flash-mem.h to doublecheck that flash access for GraphicsClient is correctly defined. > 3. Ethernet seems not to work. It displays wrong MAC address. My board'S MAC address has not been configured, so I bolted a dummy MAC adress in the code... and forgot to remove it. It should work for you too anyway. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jul 10 20:11:26 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA27852; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:11:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26868 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:11:24 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA12231; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19247; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:09:57 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA14922; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA17452; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ztxmail02.nz-cce.cpqcorp.net by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA25343; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:06:19 -0700 Received: by ztxmail02.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 4C7CD418E; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:06:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from xanadu.vip.ca (unknown [205.250.170.220]) by ztxmail02.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6394193; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:06:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:04:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Deborah Wallach Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, handhelds@handhelds.org Subject: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com mailing list In-Reply-To: <200007101730.AA23679@stowe.pa.dec.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Deborah Wallach wrote: > > sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > > StrongARM-1100 stuff ? > > I created this list for sa1100-specific linux issues (back when the sa1100 > port was less well-integrated with the general arm port). It's possible > that it's no longer needed. Does anyone on the sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com feel that this list is still required? I used it for my patch announcements and though it would be a good place for very SA11x0-specific Linux support discussions. Maybe this list can stay with its focus, maybe all the other lists can already do the job. Maybe concerned people can tell what they think? In all cases I would like to see someone to host an web archive of that list with as many old messages as we can gather. There were a lot of useful informations that went through. Nicolas From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jul 10 20:54:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA27990; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:54:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA28159 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:54:10 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA19253; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19767; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:52:50 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA19934; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA19646; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ztxmail01.nz-cce.cpqcorp.net by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA14123; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:49:45 -0700 Received: by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id D5BF01F12; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:49:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from web117.yahoomail.com (web117.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.91]) by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 347C41FC5 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:49:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 19498 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jul 2000 18:49:43 -0000 Message-Id: <20000710184943.19497.qmail@web117.yahoomail.com> Received: from [171.64.108.158] by web117.yahoomail.com; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:49:43 PDT Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:49:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Zsolt Kiraly Subject: Re: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com mailing list To: Nicolas Pitre , Deborah Wallach Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, handhelds@handhelds.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hi Nico, Debbi, I think this list is still very useful in separating the generic ARMlinux messages from the StrongArmLinux specific ones. If the list does not put unbearable strains on the pa.dec.com server, then by all means please continue the service. An archive would be nice though. In any case, I would like to thank Compaq (nee Digital) for hosting this list, and I hope they will continue hosting it in the future. Zsolt --- Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > > On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Deborah Wallach wrote: > > > > > sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > > > > StrongARM-1100 stuff ? > > > > I created this list for sa1100-specific linux > issues (back when the sa1100 > > port was less well-integrated with the general arm > port). It's possible > > that it's no longer needed. > > Does anyone on the sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com feel that > this list is still > required? I used it for my patch announcements and > though it would be a > good place for very SA11x0-specific Linux support > discussions. Maybe this > list can stay with its focus, maybe all the other > lists can already do the > job. > > Maybe concerned people can tell what they think? > > In all cases I would like to see someone to host an > web archive of that > list with > as many old messages as we can gather. There were a > lot of useful > informations that went through. > > > Nicolas > ===== Zsolt Kiraly zskiraly@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail  Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jul 10 23:09:56 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA28421; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 23:09:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02883 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 23:09:54 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA16434; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26639; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:07:50 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA23949; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA24746; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crl.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA21058; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:03:48 -0700 Received: from crlwebmail.crl.dec.com (crlwebmail.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.2]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with ESMTP id RAA02166; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crlwebmail.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:08:39 -0400 Message-Id: From: George France To: "'handhelds@handhelds.org'" , Deborah Wallach Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: RE: [Handhelds] sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com mailing list Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:03:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk I suspect that the sa1100-linux list will still be useful for the next two or three months, as there are still some drivers to be completed. At that time we should re-evaluate. --George George France, france@crl.dec.com Cambridge Research Laboratory, Compaq Computer Corporation One Cambridgecenter MS: CRL Cambridge, MA 02142 USA -----Original Message----- From: Nicolas Pitre [mailto:nico@cam.org] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 2:05 PM To: Deborah Wallach Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; handhelds@handhelds.org Subject: [Handhelds] sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com mailing list On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Deborah Wallach wrote: > > sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com > > StrongARM-1100 stuff ? > > I created this list for sa1100-specific linux issues (back when the sa1100 > port was less well-integrated with the general arm port). It's possible > that it's no longer needed. Does anyone on the sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com feel that this list is still required? I used it for my patch announcements and though it would be a good place for very SA11x0-specific Linux support discussions. Maybe this list can stay with its focus, maybe all the other lists can already do the job. Maybe concerned people can tell what they think? In all cases I would like to see someone to host an web archive of that list with as many old messages as we can gather. There were a lot of useful informations that went through. Nicolas _______________________________________________ Handhelds mailing list Handhelds@handhelds.org http://handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/handhelds From kramer@pa.dec.com Mon Jul 10 23:34:19 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id XAA28487; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 23:34:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03569 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 23:34:18 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id OAA23049; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA07534; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:32:58 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA23990; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id OAA21272; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA18601; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:29:59 -0700 Received: from tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com (mail.teklogix.com [207.219.2.10]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id OAA01115 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DeadDuck (BILL [10.128.5.25]) by tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id 3C08SLDL; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:29:08 -0400 To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: [Handhelds] sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com mailing list References: From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: noitazinagro X-Home-Page: http://www.wwonline.com/~bpringle/ Date: 10 Jul 2000 17:33:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: George France's message of "Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:03:44 -0400" Message-Id: Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Nicolas> Does anyone on the sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com feel that this Nicolas> list is still required? I used it for my patch Nicolas> announcements and though it would be a good place for very Nicolas> SA11x0-specific Linux support discussions. Maybe this list Nicolas> can stay with its focus, maybe all the other lists can Nicolas> already do the job. Can someone enumerate subscription info for the other lists that might do this job? Opps, answered my own question... "http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/armlinux/mailinglists.shtml" "http://handhelds.org/email_lists.html" Bill -- Yow! Maybe I should have asked for my Neutron Bomb in PAISLEY-- From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jul 11 03:18:09 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id DAA29108; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 03:18:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08689 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 03:18:07 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id SAA23159; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20419; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:16:18 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA01137; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id SAA31047; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ztxmail02.nz-cce.cpqcorp.net by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30275; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:12:38 -0700 Received: by ztxmail02.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 28DEE4165; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:12:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from funai-tky.co.jp (ns.funai-tky.co.jp [210.154.37.2]) by ztxmail02.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863144133 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:12:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id KAA11280 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:12:31 +0900 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:12:31 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii To: sa1100 mailng list Subject: Re: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com mailing list In-Reply-To: <20000710184943.19497.qmail@web117.yahoomail.com> References: <20000710184943.19497.qmail@web117.yahoomail.com> Message-Id: <396A747F276.C4D7HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.26.03 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Zsolt Kiraly wrote: > Hi Nico, Debbi, > > I think this list is still very useful in separating > the generic ARMlinux messages from the StrongArmLinux Me too. ---- Funai Electric R & D System Software Engineer Hiroshi Ishii From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jul 11 06:57:57 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id GAA29599; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 06:57:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA12078 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 06:57:54 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id VAA31201; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32722; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:56:27 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA27587; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA06996; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA11800; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:53:02 -0700 Received: from valrhona.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id VAA02773; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from valrhona.pa.dec.com by valrhona.pa.dec.com (8.9.1/emg20000612) with ESMTP, id VAA29171; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007110453.VAA29171@valrhona.pa.dec.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: List Archives X-Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation, Palo Alto Advanced Development X-Phone: +1.415.853.2108 X-Face: "LX60V1[A=EN[jjZKY=&,"HB8ahM8?VoL;=Y8oj4%JV\F"4sfgV*;8GgAk!3]}5OmF$/Njv jvRHqNwtZa7yO^g]9+<)e)'EL0?oPqczWF/"+d:XldxB"aLI.D_\|^e4F Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk An archive or all the messages to this list is now available via the mailman server at handhelds.org. Over the next week or so, we will also migrate the list to that server, but for now, please continue to post as always, to sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com. To peruse the archive, see http://handhelds.org/pipermail/sa1100/ (Actually, there might be a few messages from this afternoon missing; if there are, we'll insert them soon.) --Ed From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jul 11 09:27:45 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id JAA00259; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:27:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15063 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:27:43 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id AAA26184; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02805; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:25:58 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA05389; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AAA08368; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zmamail01.nz-tay.cpqcorp.net by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05737; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:22:28 -0700 Received: by zmamail01.zma.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 5D3B03B6C; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 03:22:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (ns0.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.1]) by zmamail01.zma.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E893930 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 03:22:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apache.utdallas.edu (apache.utdallas.edu [129.110.16.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64511A00AD; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 02:22:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (vasantr@localhost) by apache.utdallas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA03075; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 02:22:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: apache.utdallas.edu: vasantr owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 02:22:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Vasant Ramasubramanian To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: SDRAM Start-up code Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk I've spent the last few days trying very hard to get the SDRAM working on a custom SA1110 based board but have failed thus far. Does anyone (besides blob & Compaq/bootldr) have simple assembly code to "wake-up" the SDRAMs(follow through the state machine listed in the 1110 manual) and configure & enable them? At this point I am unable to read/write to SDRAM after trying my code; I do all my initalization after RESET so the MMU is unconfigured and caches are turned off. The hardware *looks* OK but I'm not rulling it out yet. Anyone know of good data sheets/SDRAM briefs that might show in detail waveforms expected to see during configuration and non-burst read/writes? We're using Micron 64Mbit x 16 SDRAMs; I have data sheets from both and IBM and both do a very crappy job of explaining terms and procedures to non-long time users of DRAM/SDRAM I'm at my wits end over here... Thanks, Vasant. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jul 11 17:02:51 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id RAA03803; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:02:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01573 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:02:48 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id IAA07746; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 08:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32141; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 08:00:50 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA21721; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 07:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA18574; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 07:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA12709; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 07:56:58 -0700 Received: from tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com (mail.teklogix.com [207.219.2.10]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id HAA07154 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 07:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DeadDuck (BILL [10.128.5.25]) by tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id 3C08SN37; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:56:05 -0400 To: Vasant Ramasubramanian Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: SDRAM Start-up code References: From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: noitazinagro X-Home-Page: http://www.wwonline.com/~bpringle/ Date: 11 Jul 2000 11:00:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: Vasant Ramasubramanian's message of "Tue, 11 Jul 2000 02:22:27 -0500 (CDT)" Message-Id: Lines: 114 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk >>>>> "VR" == Vasant Ramasubramanian writes: VR> I've spent the last few days trying very hard to get the SDRAM VR> working on a custom SA1110 based board but have failed thus far. VR> Does anyone (besides blob & Compaq/bootldr) have simple assembly VR> code to "wake-up" the SDRAMs(follow through the state machine VR> listed in the 1110 manual) and configure & enable them? VR> At this point I am unable to read/write to SDRAM after trying my VR> code; I do all my initalization after RESET so the MMU is VR> unconfigured and caches are turned off. [snip] There are some problems with the SA1110 SDRAM controller. It only works at some speeds. I think that with a 1/4 speed bus, it will always work. However, using the 1/2 speed bus, it will work from 187-200Mhz and from 50-118Mhz depending on the CAS latency. I don't think this is mentioned in errata (or whatever they call it). Unfortunately, the SA1110 SDRAM controller doesn't give you control over the waveforms like say the UPM on an MPC860. This means that you have to work with the parameters that the SA1110 provides. Most SDRAM has the same state machine and commands. These are sent by three control lines (I forget which), so there are eight different commands (maybe more, one is an escape). Here are some 1/4 speed numbers. [start] ppcr_speed: .long 0x00000006 /* 147 Mhz */ mdcas00: .long 0xaaaaaa7f /* 1/4 speed */ mdrefr0: .long 0x00700321 /* 1/4 speed */ mdcas01: .long 0xaaaaaaaa mdcas02: .long 0xaaaaaaaa mdcnfg: .long 0x72547254 initSDRAM: ldr r0,memCfgAddr ldr r1,mdcas00 /* MDCAS00 value. */ str r1,[r0,#0x4] ldr r1,mdcas01 /* MDCAS01 value. */ str r1,[r0,#0x8] ldr r1,mdcas02 /* MDCAS02 value. */ str r1,[r0,#0xc] ldr r1,mdrefr0 /* MDREFR value. */ STR r1,[r0,#0x1c] ldr r1,mdcnfg /* turn on the DRAM */ STR r1,[r0] ldr r0,powCfgAddr mov r1,#0x08 /* clear the DRAM Hold bit */ STR r1,[r0,#0x4] /* Perform 8 reads from unenabled DRAM */ mov r1, #DRAM_PHYSICAL ldr r2, [r1] ldr r2, [r1] ldr r2, [r1] ldr r2, [r1] ldr r2, [r1] ldr r2, [r1] ldr r2, [r1] ldr r2, [r1] ldr r0,memCfgAddr ldr r1,mdcnfg /* enable the DRAM */ orr r1,r1,#1 STR r1,[r0] /* * Wait for DRAM to come up. */ MOV r1, #0x200 0: SUBS r1, r1, #1 BNE 0b mov pc,lr /* return to caller. */ [end] If 1/4 speed doesn't work, take a look at the hardware. If you are lucky enough to have the bus broken out, hook up a logic analyzer and take a look. Intel suggested added line traces/delay elements to get things working at 1/2 speed. If you have a large trace, then things might not work exactly like the Assabet, etc boards. This sucks and is frustrating to debug... hth, Bill -- CLICKED BY FIVE DESTROYERS. SINKING. U-829. From kramer@pa.dec.com Tue Jul 11 22:10:22 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id WAA05298; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:10:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12529 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:10:20 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id NAA13431; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA03428; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:08:37 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA32621; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id NAA32514; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ztxmail01.nz-cce.cpqcorp.net by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA00789; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:01:29 -0700 Received: by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 7548A4251; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:01:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.uni-greifswald.de (mail.uni-greifswald.de [141.53.8.33]) by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3990424A for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:01:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sh990154@localhost) by mail.uni-greifswald.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id WAA02650; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:01:15 +0200 (METDST) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:01:14 +0200 (METDST) From: "Hanske;Stefan" To: Vasant Ramasubramanian Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: SDRAM Start-up code In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Vasant Ramasubramanian wrote: > Anyone know of good data sheets/SDRAM briefs that might show in detail > waveforms expected to see during configuration and non-burst > read/writes? The processor manual should contain the pin descriptions and the hardware protokol (when which line is going high or low). At least it does in the <= ARM710 manual from ARM. From kramer@pa.dec.com Wed Jul 12 04:26:35 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id EAA06425; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:26:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21891 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:26:33 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id TAA19443; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27365; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:24:51 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA04130; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id TAA09067; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ztxmail01.nz-cce.cpqcorp.net by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20753; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:21:05 -0700 Received: by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 2DC621F1A; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 21:21:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail2000.com.tw (mail2000.com.tw [139.175.250.58]) by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1256D1F01 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 21:21:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: By OpenMail Mailer;Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:20:26 +0800 (CST) From: "Chien-Min Lee" Reply-To: cm_lee@mail2000.com.tw Subject: Problem about NFS Root Message-Id: <963368424.13883.cm_lee@mail2000.com.tw> To: "linux-arm-kernel" , "SA1100-linux" Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:20:24 +0800 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Dear All: I am trying NFSRoot of 2.4.0-test2-ac1-rmk2-np3 on my Asabet. NFS server is executed on a PC running RedHat6.2. However I only get the following error message: eth0: NE2000 found using IRQ 42 Looking up port of RPC 100003/2 on 210.68.44.71 Looking up port of RPC 100005/2 on 210.68.44.71 VFS: Mounted root (nfs filesystem). Freeing unused kernel memory: 68k init nfs: server 210.68.44.71 not responding, still trying nfs: server 210.68.44.71 not responding, still trying Device lo is down. Device lo is down. Device lo is down. Device lo is down. nfs: task 60 can't get a request slot nfs: task 61 can't get a request slot nfs: task 62 can't get a request slot nfs: task 63 can't get a request slot Could anyone tell me what's going wrong?? Thanks kirk ----== Mailed via Openfind ==----- http://mail2000.com.tw/ 4#(Q'K6O*: e-mail +H=c*A0H From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 13 01:46:31 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id BAA12388; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 01:46:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29601 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 01:46:28 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id QAA17988; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA20979; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:44:48 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA05012; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA26595; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ztxmail01.nz-cce.cpqcorp.net by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06508; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:38:29 -0700 Received: by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 1B416160D; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:38:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from duke.electric.net (duke.electric.net [216.18.11.193]) by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 853811600 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:38:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 25774 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2000 23:38:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO relay.electric.net) (@127.0.0.1) by duke.electric.net with SMTP; 12 Jul 2000 23:38:24 -0000 Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by relay.electric.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id QAA25769 for sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cobra.intrinsyc.com(64.16.10.158), claiming to be "dp.intrinsyc.com" via SMTP by relay.electric.net, id smtpdI25722; Wed Jul 12 16:38:23 2000 Received: from ileong (helo=localhost) by dp.intrinsyc.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1 (Debian)) id 13CW57-0000ID-00 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:38:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:38:21 -0700 (PDT) From: I-Gene Leong To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: 1100/1110 USB? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk After (foolishly) expending 4 weeks of effort hacking my own driver, I have to ask... besides the Itsy one, are there any other drivers for the USB DC on the 11x0? (Mine just tries to make the USB port into a high-speed serial link... it uses the generic serial driver on the host side. Yes, the host runs Linux as well.) -- I-Gene Leong ileong@intrinsyc.com / 604-646-6962 "We see Linux as being much of a fad as the Internet was in 1995." - Irving Wladawsky-Berger, IBM VP of technology and strategy From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 13 02:02:20 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA12428; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 02:02:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29877 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 02:02:17 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA13412; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA32611; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:00:41 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA27604; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id QAA29495; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ztxmail01.nz-cce.cpqcorp.net by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA30412; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:58:02 -0700 Received: by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 69CEF2DB3; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:58:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from empeg.com (morrison.empeg.co.uk [193.119.19.130]) by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28FF2D70 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:57:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from morcheeba (morcheeba.internal.empeg.com [10.1.1.34]) by empeg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA12667; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 01:05:05 +0100 Message-Id: <003901bfec5c$ec4f2760$2201010a@internal.empeg.com> From: "Hugo Fiennes" To: "I-Gene Leong" Cc: References: Subject: Re: 1100/1110 USB? Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 00:57:23 +0100 Organization: empeg ltd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > After (foolishly) expending 4 weeks of effort hacking my own driver, I > have to ask... besides the Itsy one, are there any other drivers for the > USB DC on the 11x0? > > (Mine just tries to make the USB port into a high-speed serial link... it > uses the generic serial driver on the host side. Yes, the host runs Linux > as well.) I've not tried the internal driver, but have you considered starting with my USB slave driver (in the empeg SA1100 port - see www.empeg.com to find sources) and then hacking this about to work with the SA11x0 onboard USB controller? In the latest source there are two variants, one for each USB controller we used in each production model empeg. In the next month or so I may well be attempting to do this task myself, so if you're not in a hurry... the drivers do all the EP0 enumeration stuff and then set up a pair of bulk endpoints (in & out). There's a companion linux driver for 2.2 backported/2.3/2.4 x86 linux which talks to the empeg over USB too. Hugo empeg From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 13 02:04:02 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id CAA12438; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 02:04:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29939 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 02:04:00 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id RAA19342; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05796; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:02:41 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA28242; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id RAA03586; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zmamail01.nz-tay.cpqcorp.net by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA02085; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:00:17 -0700 Received: by zmamail01.zma.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id C0F6C267F; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from duke.electric.net (duke.electric.net [216.18.11.193]) by zmamail01.zma.compaq.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BA0544A0 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45114 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2000 00:00:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO relay.electric.net) (@127.0.0.1) by duke.electric.net with SMTP; 13 Jul 2000 00:00:12 -0000 Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by relay.electric.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id RAA45109; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cobra.intrinsyc.com(64.16.10.158), claiming to be "dp.intrinsyc.com" via SMTP by relay.electric.net, id smtpdG45092; Wed Jul 12 17:00:10 2000 Received: from ileong (helo=localhost) by dp.intrinsyc.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1 (Debian)) id 13CWQE-0000Lp-00; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:00:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:00:10 -0700 (PDT) From: I-Gene Leong To: Hugo Fiennes Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: Re: 1100/1110 USB? In-Reply-To: <003901bfec5c$ec4f2760$2201010a@internal.empeg.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Hugo Fiennes wrote: > I've not tried the internal driver, but have you considered starting with my > USB slave driver (in the empeg SA1100 port - see www.empeg.com to find > sources) and then hacking this about to work with the SA11x0 onboard USB > controller? In the latest source there are two variants, one for each USB > controller we used in each production model empeg. I remember checking the empeg stuff awhile ago, but it was for some NCR USB chip... didn't think I could use it. Well, may as well check again, since it couldn't hurt... :) -- I-Gene Leong ileong@intrinsyc.com / 604-646-6962 "We see Linux as being much of a fad as the Internet was in 1995." - Irving Wladawsky-Berger, IBM VP of technology and strategy From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 13 15:47:57 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id PAA16088; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:47:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21473 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:47:54 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id GAA29855; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 06:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA28696; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 06:44:07 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA15882; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 06:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id GAA29288; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 06:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ztxmail01.nz-cce.cpqcorp.net by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA19991; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 06:41:04 -0700 Received: by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 73022176C; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 08:41:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 233A7175C for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 08:41:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:39:55 +1000 From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, lart@lart.tudelft.edu.nl, "utility account for group.pleb " Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:39:54 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU Subject: Interfacing an ADC Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hi all, I've got a project where we need to interface a 500Khz ADC to the SA1100. I've got two questions one related to the hardware design and one to linux. It seems the best way to interface it is to connect the device in parallel using one of the SRAM banks. With a 500Khz sampling rate we have 1000 cycles (with a 200Mhz part) between each sample to process it. The quesition is how much of that time (no of cycles) will be required to trap the interrupt and read the 12bit sample into a memory location and would it be better/possible to map the interrupt to the FIQ line? The hardware question is can anyone suggest an alternate ADC, the requirements are 500KHz sampling with 8 channels multiplexed. Substitutions like 250KHz with 4 channels multiplexed are also suitable. It would be preferable to get something using one of the SA-1100's high speed serial ports to make use of a DMA channel. The project is for sampling frog and possibly bird calls in the wild, I beleive about 40HKz or more is needed per channel. Any other comments/suggestions welcome :) Once sampled the signal if filtered and then put through a machine learning system to identify the species of the animal. Cheers Adam From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 13 16:14:29 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA16278; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:14:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22582 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:14:25 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA11801; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA27133; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:10:24 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA14477; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA16728; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ztxmail01.nz-cce.cpqcorp.net by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA29363; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:09:00 -0700 Received: by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 028B91DCF; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:08:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from empeg.com (morrison.empeg.co.uk [193.119.19.130]) by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7149117BB for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:08:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from morcheeba (morcheeba.internal.empeg.com [10.1.1.34]) by empeg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA00305; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:02:07 +0100 Message-Id: <008401bfecd2$deaf2210$2201010a@internal.empeg.com> From: "Hugo Fiennes" To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" , , , "utility account for group.pleb " References: Subject: Re: Interfacing an ADC Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:01:41 +0100 Organization: empeg ltd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk > Hi all, I've got a project where we need to interface a 500Khz ADC > to the SA1100. I've got two questions one related to the hardware design > and one to linux. It seems the best way to interface it is to connect the > device in parallel using one of the SRAM banks. With a 500Khz sampling > rate we have 1000 cycles (with a 200Mhz part) between each sample to > process it. The quesition is how much of that time (no of cycles) will be > required to trap the interrupt and read the 12bit sample into a memory > location and would it be better/possible to map the interrupt to the FIQ > line? Any GPIO line on the SA can generate a FIQ. To read the sample & store should be able to be done by simply using the banked FIQ registers - ie, no loads & stores. FIQs are *very* efficient - we use them to read audio out of the soundblaster-type chip for audio input on the empeg mk2, with one fiq reading 2-4 bytes about 20,000 times a sec. Can't really tell it's even happening... If you want any example code, try looking at either the acorn floppy fiq drivers or maybe the empeg_cs4231fiq.S/.c code in the empeg kernel source. Hugo From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 13 16:45:45 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id QAA16451; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:45:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23870 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:45:42 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id HAA32393; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01857; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:44:19 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA18428; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id HAA17763; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ztxmail01.nz-cce.cpqcorp.net by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA01911; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:42:36 -0700 Received: by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id C136A14CB; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:42:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from xanadu.vip.ca (unknown [205.250.170.220]) by ztxmail01.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023291676 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:42:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:40:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, lart@lart.tudelft.edu.nl, "utility account for group.pleb " Subject: Re: Interfacing an ADC In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hmmm... You really need to use one of the serial port with DMA. Most of those ports are able to take an external clock... but yet you need to check if they can scale up to 500 kHx * 16 bits i.e. 4 MHz which shouldn't be a problem. This, coupled with a shift register if your ADC is parallel, is probably the most reliable solution. Triggering an interrupt for each sample at that speed is simply not going to work IMHO... unless you actually poll the ADC. On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > Hi all, I've got a project where we need to interface a 500Khz ADC > to the SA1100. I've got two questions one related to the hardware design > and one to linux. It seems the best way to interface it is to connect the > device in parallel using one of the SRAM banks. With a 500Khz sampling > rate we have 1000 cycles (with a 200Mhz part) between each sample to > process it. The quesition is how much of that time (no of cycles) will be > required to trap the interrupt and read the 12bit sample into a memory > location and would it be better/possible to map the interrupt to the FIQ > line? > The hardware question is can anyone suggest an alternate ADC, the > requirements are 500KHz sampling with 8 channels multiplexed. > Substitutions like 250KHz with 4 channels multiplexed are also suitable. > It would be preferable to get something using one of the SA-1100's high > speed serial ports to make use of a DMA channel. > The project is for sampling frog and possibly bird calls in the > wild, I beleive about 40HKz or more is needed per channel. Any other > comments/suggestions welcome :) Once sampled the signal if filtered and > then put through a machine learning system to identify the species of the > animal. > > Cheers Adam > > From kramer@pa.dec.com Thu Jul 13 20:38:54 2000 Return-Path: Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl by duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/BB-2.0) id UAA17615; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 20:38:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01587 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 20:38:49 +0200 (METDST) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with SMTP id LAA03238; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wera.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA05747; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:36:52 -0700 Received: by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA28264; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by wera.pa.dec.com; (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id LAA17215; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.digital.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA06705; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:34:44 -0700 Received: from compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (h0000c06cf87e.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.212.45]) by mail2.digital.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id LAA23605 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p2.parker.boston.ma.us (p2 [192.245.5.16]) by compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15430; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:34:38 -0400 Received: from p2.parker.boston.ma.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p2.parker.boston.ma.us (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24238; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:34:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brad@p2.parker.boston.ma.us) Message-Id: <200007131834.OAA24238@p2.parker.boston.ma.us> To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk, linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com Subject: port of ARM SA-1100 itsy usb function driver to 2.4.0-test2 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:34:38 -0400 From: Brad Parker Sender: owner-sa1100-linux@wrl-mail.pa.dec.com Precedence: bulk Hi, A few people asked about this, so I thought I'd put it up for ftp. I did an basic port of the Itsy usb function driver for the ARM SA-1100 to 2.4.0-test-blah. It's working now on a slightly out of